| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| Author |
Thread Statistics | Show CCP posts - 0 post(s) |

Vadane Deninard
Deninard Industries
1
|
Posted - 2012.09.14 09:49:00 -
[1] - Quote
Greetings MD Community
welcome to the DENIN Public Booth. No, this thread is not (yet) about an IPO nor am I asking for any kind of money. The purpose is purely on giving some information about our corporation to the public. I will talk about my intentions for this in a personal note within this topic - having that said, the intent is also to find possible business partners and providing additional (background) info should we ever decide to go through an IPO. Thanks for your attention and have a good read.
---
Deninard Industries [DENIN]
.1 Deninard Industries - The Business Idea
Deninard Industries is a yound start-up enterprise, dedicated to the production of top-tier ships, modules and commodities. The idea is to establish a business that is able to provide several trade hubs of New Eden with ships and equipment to take root in EVE's economy. And we will do so in a professional manner.
The key aspects of the DENIN philosophy are: * We see our corporation as a professional service and we act like that. This incorporates a mature behaviour by our members, but also influences the way we do business: in an honest, authentic and trustworthy way. * Everyone shall profit from the firm's success. We are probably asking a bit more from our members in terms of contribution - but we also provide more. The major aspect here is a monthly payment of dividends according to the corporation's overall profit. This can be understood as a provision-based salary for each member. A report will be sent to each member and shareholder once in a month, at the first weekend after the 15th of each month. * Establish a network of corporations contributing to each other's success as business partners.
.2 Business Units
.a DENIN Industry Our primary business unit is the industrial division. The focus is on production and, as a requirement, mining operations. Currently, we are able to produce Harbringer and Prophecy ship hulls and we are looking to expand our production portfolio to higher tier items as well and to obtain several BPOs to use them for research and copying.
Furthermore, we are planning to establish a network of PI production sites. The goal is to have PI producers working together to produce more higher-tier commodities and to sell them on the market together.
.b DENIN Finance This is a secondary business unit supporting our primary division by working with the capital provided by DENIN Industry. Activities in DENIN Finance are creating an additional interest of the money that was obtained by selling our products. Financial operations include station trading (short-term), market investments (mid-term) and meta-game investments (long-term). In fact, DENIN Finance was the origin of Deninard Industries and was just recently replaced by the industrial branch as the primary business unit.
.c DENIN Services As a professional business partner, we are also looking to get into the consultation business in EVE. This will become more important and profitable once we have achieved our initial goals and have established ourselves. The strategy is to provide certain services (e.g. Orca Support, Investment strategies) to other corporations or alliances and not only to ourselves. For that matter, DENIN Services will operate as a seperate business unit and will connect to both DENIN Industry and DENIN Finance when necessary.
.3 DENIN Operations Our operations currently include: * Mining Operations - Corp: Joint mining operations in order to stockpile minerals necessary for corp production. Ore belong to the corp. Members will profit from this in the long run, too. * Mining Operations - Individual: Joint mining operations with Orca support. Each participant may keep his ore for himself. * Mission Running: We also run missions together to provide some ISK input in our wallets and to enjoy the result of doing our work and business.
Soon, our operations portfolio will be extended by: * Lowsec Mining Operations: Move to lowsec systems to get more valuable ore. We will start this by using T1 barges and other "expendable" ships to keep losses at a minimum. And there will be losses. We will benefit from these losses however by obtaining valuable experiences in these situations. * Wormhole Exploration: Either mining operations in Wormholes or bounty hunting.
.4 Facts and Charts Last estimation of the corporation's value was performed on August 15th. The value was determined to be 2.7 Billion ISK with a corresponding share value of 2.7 Million ISK. Please note that at that time, DENIN was a one-man enterprise and focused on the newly started trading business only. The next determination of the firm's value will be performed shortly, in fact tomorrow, Sept 15th. A significant increase is expected.
We currently have about 15 people in our corp, totalling a number of 22 characters. Board of Directors: Vadane Deninard, Kaylesta
Shareholders: Vadane Deninard - 879 shares Kaylesta - 100 shares *private invstor* - 21 shares
---
If you have any further questions, dont hesitate to ask and feel free to message me in-game. As I said above, we are always welcoming business relationships to other corporations for either joint operations or deals (regarding ship production, trading etc.).
Very bests,
VD |

Vadane Deninard
Deninard Industries
1
|
Posted - 2012.09.14 09:50:00 -
[2] - Quote
Personal note regarding the post above Personally, the aspect in EvE that fascinates me the most is the metagame. Apart from some other (in-game) features and EvE's economy (which is often enough a part of the metagame), the metagame is really what separates EvE from many other MMO's that I never found worth enough to even look into.
What I would love to see is that this metagame aspect of EvE is further developed by the community. More IPOs. More collaborations. More business deals. I always wondered why people prefer to buy ships on the market and be subject to market speculations instead of approaching industrial corps and make a deal with them. A number of # ships for a fixed price to be delivered at a specific time. Beneficial for both (considering the deal to be fair). I'm currently on a business trip, visiting a conference. I was wondering why there are none such events in EvE, where someone organizes an event to gather knowledge/info or to organize a market place on its own - and other people paying a registration fee for that. I would like to see more possibilities to earn ISK's from such activities (like consulting) instead of everyone only focusing on in-game mechanics.
My personal goal is to concentrate more and more on these aspects and to completely have an EvE experience that is based on metagame activities. I know this takes trust and its very dfficult to do in such an "outlaw space" as in EvE. But its a goal to strife for, right?
I always tell my corp mates: EvE is a game - and the intent is to enjoy the game. This does not mean however, that you are not dealing with real people here. Treat this like the sports team you are participating in. |

JohnathanGalt
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
14
|
Posted - 2012.09.14 13:31:00 -
[3] - Quote
Are you accepting applications to join your corp for characters, or are you strictly looking for business partners in corps? I am potentially interested in both. |

Chiyeung Bonaparte
Wild and Free Narcotics
14
|
Posted - 2012.09.14 14:32:00 -
[4] - Quote
If you can provide more information of your goals, Vanguard Investments would be interested as well. |

Vadane Deninard
Deninard Industries
3
|
Posted - 2012.09.14 15:03:00 -
[5] - Quote
Of course we are always interested in new people willing to join our corporation - especially experienced players. So in case you, JonathanGalt, or someone else is interested in joining up, we should proceed with a private convo in-game or via eve mail.
Regarding our goals, I decided to just copy the following passage from our internal strategy white paper:
Quote: .4 Milestones and Gates The following milestone and gate structure is a general sketch is not subject to detailled time schedules. It is however, a good orientation of how we will proceed in the future. Milestones are important steps and goals within the regarded time horizon. Gates indicate boundaries between time periods.
.4.1 Short-Term Milestones * Establish regular corp mining operations in High-Sec * Establish a production chain for the production of Harbringers * Recruit more industrial pilots to build a baseline from which we can proceed. * Start researching BPOs via POS access with a friendly corp.
Gates * Reach a roster size of about 40-50 pilots. * Enough members are able to fly exhumers and/or T2 combat ships for protection. * First experience with mining ops in dangerous terretory is obtained.
.4.2 Mid-Term Milestones * Obtain more BPOs and expand production portfolio. * Establish regular lowsec and/or WH mining expeditions. * Expand to the size of a "Megacorp" (50+ members)
Gates * Corporation bankroll is able to support a POS and is able to compensate for a (potential) loss of it. * Outline of a precise plan for the establishment of a POS in either high sec or nullsec and either by ourselves or within an alliance.
.4.3 Long-Term Milestones * Make full use of our access to a POS via production and research. * Full launch of DENIN Services in order to expand our business to consultation. * Outline a concept for future steps (for example, settlement in nullsec, expansion in high sec etc)
This should provide a rough sketch of our future plans. Note that this milestone structure is mostly about the activities within our industrial unit. At this, we are currently negotiating a possible deal that will help us to obtain a set of valuable BPOs. The first task will be to do R&D with these BPOs and proceed with production later on. |

Privateer NoBody
New Eden Ship Yards Back To Earth
5
|
Posted - 2012.09.14 15:53:00 -
[6] - Quote
I have some POS structures that I could fit some labs too if you are interested.
I also have a crap load of BC and BS BPOS locked down if you would be interested in production rights to them or selling large volumes of minerals to me.
I have done all of you objectives getting upto 150+ members though the alliance, if you want anything let me know. |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
348
|
Posted - 2012.09.14 17:01:00 -
[7] - Quote
"low-sec mining" :3
(nice document, you will realize the error of your ways soon enough ) I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |

Caelis Boirelle
Aurora Investments
27
|
Posted - 2012.09.14 20:01:00 -
[8] - Quote
Interesting ideas.
Very, very ambitious goals for where you are now, but interesting.
I look forward to doing business with you one day! Aurora Investments is looking for an alliance to call home |

Barakach
R-ISK Shadow Operations.
77
|
Posted - 2012.09.14 20:24:00 -
[9] - Quote
JohnathanGalt wrote:Are you accepting applications to join your corp for characters, or are you strictly looking for business partners in corps? I am potentially interested in both.
You literally look like a shady person  |

Vadane Deninard
Deninard Industries
4
|
Posted - 2012.09.14 20:28:00 -
[10] - Quote
Barakach wrote:JohnathanGalt wrote:Are you accepting applications to join your corp for characters, or are you strictly looking for business partners in corps? I am potentially interested in both. You literally look like a shady person 
Well, I always wanted to do business with a Sith Lord. ;)
To all the others: Thanks for both the encouragement and the scepticism. I just had a good conversation with our COO and I'm confident that we have outlined a production scheme that will take us to a next step. |

Vadane Deninard
Deninard Industries
6
|
Posted - 2012.09.19 05:56:00 -
[11] - Quote
Greetings to all,
I would like to quickly share last months report about our activities:
Wallets Master 187.0 M Trading (A) 420.0 M Trading (B) 128.9 M R&D 1.0 M Exploration 1.0 M Industry 387.1 M
Market/Finance Escrow 740.0 M Sell Orders 322.0 M Investments 750.0 M
Assets - A Modules 46.0 M Ressources 22.3 M Weapons 28.2 M Ships 914.0 M Long-term investments 199.0 M
Assets - B Modules 29.0 M Unprocessed Ore 126.8 M Ships 336.0 M Minerals 593.0 M
Total corp value: 5.2313 Billion
Salary .1 Payed by dividends to all members 3% of corp value: 156.9 M
Remaining capital: 5.0744 Billion
.2 Fixed salaries None
Dividends to Shareholders 3% of remining capital: 152.2 M
Besides, there are some other news to announce:
* Last months industrial throughput did not live up to my expectations. This is due to the fact that a) our in-house mining ops are not sufficiant to fuel our production at a scale we'd like it to, and b) that me and the COO did not have the time to look deeply look into production opportunities that provide an adequate profit, even when minerals are obtained on the market. So now we have established a Sales Team that is taking care of identifying manufacturing schemes and managing buy/sell orders regarding our industrial in- and output.
* We have started to build a good relationship to our investors and the people we invest in ourselves. Investments will be used to obtain BPOs for researching (as outlined above). At this, our investors have sponsored an audit to be performed by VV.
* Since we have quite a number of newer players, we are now running an Advanced Training Program for skill book funding. As a minor note, almost all of our "younger" members are now able to fly barges - which is certainly quite a boost for our own mining ops.
Very bests,
VD |

Vera Algaert
Republic University Minmatar Republic
354
|
Posted - 2012.09.19 09:17:00 -
[12] - Quote
Vadane Deninard wrote:* Last months industrial throughput did not live up to my expectations. This is due to the fact that a) our in-house mining ops are not sufficiant to fuel our production at a scale we'd like it to, and b) that me and the COO did not have the time to look deeply look into production opportunities that provide an adequate profit, even when minerals are obtained on the market. now think what you just wrote there. I'm a NPC corp alt, any argument I make is invalid. |

Vadane Deninard
Deninard Industries
6
|
Posted - 2012.09.19 17:05:00 -
[13] - Quote
Vera Algaert wrote:Vadane Deninard wrote: [...] even when minerals are obtained on the market. now think what you just wrote there.
You are right, thanks - it looks silly.
What we did last month, was to build ships that would sell for a price slightly higher than the raw mineral price and at this, we used the minerals obtained through corp mining ops. I always try to keep opportunity costs in mind and I was quite unhappy with our scheme. When manufactured goods cannot be sold for a significant profit when compared to raw mineral prices, why even bother with production.
Thats why we are working on our schemes and are about to fix this.
Please note that we did not produce for a loss (selling goods lower than the raw price of our mined minerals). We also did not, however, have a production scheme that would make it profitable for us to actually buy minerals on the market and use that for production.
Thanks again for the remark, Vera.
Very bests,
VD
|

Barakach
R-ISK Shadow Operations.
81
|
Posted - 2012.09.19 17:10:00 -
[14] - Quote
"a production scheme that would make it profitable for us to actually buy minerals on the market and use that for production"
If it's not brokers fees, it's high sell prices. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1908
|
Posted - 2012.09.20 05:57:00 -
[15] - Quote
I have been contacted by some potential Investors and asked an audit for a possible IPO by Vadane.
This has been refreshing, finally an investment where it's Investors who act like in RL and don't place the audit "burden" on the Investee shoulders!
I am still at the (API part) beginning of the research, so far he looks like he can do what he says. The operation is small though, it'd be mostly a "startup" more than a many digits, blasoned IPO. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Chiyeung Bonaparte
Vanguard Investments.
17
|
Posted - 2012.09.20 16:15:00 -
[16] - Quote
Vaerah Vahrokha wrote:I have been contacted by some potential Investors and asked an audit for a possible IPO by Vadane.
This has been refreshing, finally an investment where it's Investors who act like in RL and don't place the audit "burden" on the Investee shoulders!
I am still at the (API part) beginning of the research, so far he looks like he can do what he says. The operation is small though, it'd be mostly a "startup" more than a many digits, blasoned IPO.
:D glad to help, always better when more people are proactive.
Looking forward to your audit and working with Denin soon. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1916
|
Posted - 2012.10.01 09:04:00 -
[17] - Quote
A full audit about Vadane Deninard's corporation and characters has been published on the Public Records Archive (P.A.R.)
A MD forum compliant version will be posted later today. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1917
|
Posted - 2012.10.01 16:35:00 -
[18] - Quote
Audit report for Vadane Deninard business proposal
This is Vaerah VahrokhaGÇÖs analysis as of 2012-09-27 08:30 EvE Time. NEISIN code: GFDENINIP011. Official discussion: link to investment prospectus. Public Audits Record (PAR) for this investment: backlink.
Tools used
jEveAssets EvE Income Analyzer Crucible Edition EvE Mentat Microsoft-« ExcelGäó Blender 3D => LuxRender Paint.NET => Bolt Bait Pack, DPY Plugins, MadJik Pack, Vandermotten Effects
Forewords about the Audit
Vadane Deninard is an industry corporation CEO and high sec trader. He wishes to make his corporation known to the Market Discussion community and eventually find investors in his business. This audit is about checking Vadane DeninardGÇÖs skills and trading performance.
Generalities
Main character for this proposal is Vadane Deninard, an high sec mining, mining fleet boosting and trader character. Vadane DeninardGÇÖs owner, also plays an additional small trading alt and a beginner PvP alt. He trained several level IV and V skills for trading, contracting, hauling with industrials and mining fleet boosting (his assets include an Orca). He may also organize level 4 mission runs. Vadane Deninard is an October 2011 character with 14.8M SP.
All of Vadane DeninardGÇÖs characters have very short posting histories. They donGÇÖt show evident ill-behaviors. Killboard records are minimal, only pertinent kill mail relevant to his business, shows an early days loss of an untanked mining barge to an high sec suicide gank.
Statement of ability to deliver: Vadane Deninard has got the required character skills both to trade, to mine and to boost mining fleets (his assets include Orca and exhumers). API records show regular past and present market orders running. Statement of past activity: the journal API records report a regular trading activity as far as the API allows to check for.
Involvement in other business
As of September 27, Vadane Deninard has about 774.591.304 invested (public investment in Barakach).
Business Plan Analysis
Vadane Deninard disclosed his business strategy both to the Auditor and to the public. It involves both on organizing mining fleets and trading.
Vadane DeninardGÇÖs plan is to find Investors and to raise funds to be able and expand the current operation. In fact, as of now, the whole operation is more of a start up than a fully established business. Vadane Deninard is already in the proposed market niche and industry, he does not need logistics.
Feasibility statement: the mining and mining operation boosting skills are here, the business plan looks viable, look at the market performance analysis for further details. As stated above and as admitted by Vadane Deninard himself, his operation is still in a start up phase, therefore GÇ£the numbersGÇ¥ are not huge.
Collateral and exit strategy
Vadane Deninard has not talked about staring an investment (IPO) yet, so these details are not known.
Net Asset Value and other balance considerations
The estimated net worth of all liabilities, solid & liquid assets is about 7.446B ISK. Market transactions are mostly made by the Vadane Deninard. Assets across all of the characters and corporations are estimated to be worth 3.182B.
Important notice: the reported values may be lower than the real amounts, because certain assets in certain conditions are not reported by the API. The listing includes both Vadane DeninardGÇÖs corporationGÇÖs assets and his characters assets. In fact he told the Auditor heGÇÖd eventually use those personal assets to compensate the Investors for any losses.
Assets and balance
Balance
Wallet balance: 1.725B Market sell-orders: 1.116B Market escrow: 0.648B Contracts: 0.000B Investments / receivable: 0.775B Liabilities / payable: (0) B Total: 4.264B
Assets POS: 0.000B Fleet / ships (unfitted): 2.139B Modules: 0.287B Misc. solid assets; minerals, salvage, ice and trade goods etc.: 0.406B Blueprint copies and originals: 0.030B
Other
Accessories (includes PLEXes): 0.000B Charges: 0.045B Commodities: 0.032B Drones: 0.056B Ordered assets under construction: 0.000B Planetary items or resources: 0.017B Ship components: 0.000B General or classified items: 0.170B Total: 3.182B
Estimated grand total: 7.446 Billion ISK
The above evaluations were made by using The Forge prices as reference.
Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1917
|
Posted - 2012.10.01 16:35:00 -
[19] - Quote
Markets performance analysis
Due to the changes in the EvE-« API, none of the analysis softwares used in the past seem to work any longer. In order to improve this audit's presentation, the Auditor ported and bug fixed one of them to the new standard. Thus EvE Income Analyzer Crucible Edition has born.
Statistics
Vadane Deninard has traded 44 different groups of items in the period covered by the EvE API (from July 27, 2012).
His turnover has been of 9.03B. His average profit has been of 33.51% per trade. His top 5 most profitable items had a profit from 114% up to 1157%. No item in the top 20 earned less than 1.67% profit.
Wallet transactions
The following sheets show some of the top and last transaction amounts, including the totals. As mentioned above the items have been grouped so each of the rows is a category of items. The item names have been hidden for privacy
Top transactions.
Bottom compounded transactions and totals.
Best selling items
This graph shows which items were the best selling for the full API covered period. The item names have been blanked for privacy.
Trading efficiency
This graph shows how much margin the Investee made by selling his stock. The GÇ£EfficiencyGÇ¥ column shows the margin. In example, 1.58 means a 158% margin was achieved. The item names have been blanked for privacy.
The best item sales netted 1282% profit (fees not included, 1157% if included). The average sales netted a 33.51% profit.
Selling speed
This graph shows how quickly the stock moved. The item names have been blanked for privacy.
Items and markets
This graph shows which markets had the highest turnover for which item. The item names have been blanked for privacy.
Time distribution
This graph shows the time distribution (per hour and per day) of the sales.
Positives
Vadane Deninard has the character skills and the assets to confirm his claims. Vadane Deninard discussed about some possible actions to take in case of wardec. Vadane Deninard accepted an audit and replied to questions. Vadane Deninard announced heGÇÖd eventually make his alts assets available for Investors reimbursement in case of issues with the business he proposes.
Negatives
No exit strategy has been discussed. Little posting history makes it hard to understand the personality of Vadane Deninard. The Gǣpublic boothGǥ thread could be seen as a quite well presented attempt to Gǣrep grindGǥ. Vadane Deninard is a relatively new player some of his statements (low sec miningGǪ) show that. Some Investors might be less comfortable investing in someone who could make mistakes.
Conclusions
Due to the risks bound with the trading profession, and due to the considerations listed in the GÇ£negativesGÇ¥ section, the Auditor classifies this investment as very high risk.
Please notice how GÇ£very high riskGÇ¥ does not mean GÇ£unsafeGÇ¥. ItGÇÖs two different concepts. Talking about high risk of bad performance, risk of real life complications etc. is one thing, the ever present chance of scam is another. The latter cannot be prevented by an audit, which only acts as first line deterrent.
The Investee seems competent (skills wise and player wise) enough to deliver on his statements and has past positive records. His business is in a growth phase, his API records show he may operated as he stated.
Basically, the Investee looks like having the ability to successfully honor an IPO. Notice how an audit may only evaluate the ability or potential of an Investee to succesfully honor a bond / IPO. The Auditor suggests perspective Investors NOT to invest their full capital on this venture but to offer what they could eventually afford to lose.
Disclaimers
Due to stringent EvE API limitations, although the information provided to you on this document is obtained or compiled from sources believed to be reliable, Vahrokh Consulting cannot and does not guarantee the accuracy, validity, timeliness, or completeness of any information or data made available to you for any particular purpose. This Auditor is Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Vadane Deninard
Deninard Industries
6
|
Posted - 2012.10.01 18:50:00 -
[20] - Quote
Thank you VV for your work regarding this audit. I'd also like to thank the supporters of this audit and my investors who helped to realize this. I'm looking forward to any questions - in the meantime, everything progresses as planned. We have started our cap ship production scheme and we are proceeding successfully.
I'll make sure to provide some additional info in the next monthly report. Regarding an IPO we still dont have any real plans for this but may move in that direction at a later stage.
Thanks and very bests,
VD |

I Was There
Nigerian Drug Manufactory co.
26
|
Posted - 2012.10.09 20:08:00 -
[21] - Quote
This looks very interesting...
-IwasThere CEO of the Nigerian Drug Manufactory co. |

Vadane Deninard
Deninard Industries
9
|
Posted - 2012.10.28 16:17:00 -
[22] - Quote
Greetings o/
It took me a while to prepare this walk-of-shame-posting but I wanted to arrange things first prior to making a public announcement. To make a long story short: we got griefed by one of our directors. He did a pretty good job in this coup and I can't really blame him and I take full responsibility for this unfortunate event.
Note that no investor was hurt by this as we immediately closed all accounts and payed back all investments using private assets and savings. All investors still got their interests payed out.
The only investment that was not immediately payed back is the one by Ji Sama (speaking for 3M Unlimited alliance). He was so kind to even put interest payments and the full bond on hold. I'd like to thank Ji Sama again for his support and understanding! Fortunately, we were able to recover from this event much faster than I expected so that the bond with 3M Unlimited will just go on as initially planned. I have "transfered" the bond from DENIN to myself personally, and things will move along unchanged.
DENIN however will be shut down after this event. The griefer was fortunate enough to also transfer a small number of shares to his character such that the whole concept of DENIN has become infeasible (paying out dividends to shareholders etc.).
Corp members will move along in seperate ways and each member of the board has different plans for the future. Personally, I will start a new corporation but will focus on different things this time. There are no plans for accepting investors or something like that.
The channel #DENIN Public will remain active for its former members and friends to meet.
Note that there has been a background check on the griefer (performed by VV) and it may be possible that he was quite a professional in this "profession". From all that can be concluded however, he is not a part of the "MD Community" (if there is such). He was initially recruited via in-game ad and doesnt seem related to any known people arround here.
Thanks again for all supporters and friends who made the last 3 months quite an exciting ride! It was a great experience and while the ending was more like crashed-and-burned, we all learned from that significantly and I'll keep this project in quite a good memory nevertheless.
Very bests,
VD |

Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
111
|
Posted - 2012.10.28 16:23:00 -
[23] - Quote
So who was it? Does VV have a list of alts? It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways: He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1944
|
Posted - 2012.10.28 16:52:00 -
[24] - Quote
Nanatoa wrote:So who was it? Does VV have a list of alts?
Those who requested the data mining got a list with what was possible to find out. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Vadane Deninard
Deninard Industries
9
|
Posted - 2012.10.28 16:55:00 -
[25] - Quote
We have a list of alts and I'll keep monitoring them. I have already warned the CEO of a new corp the griefer was joining in. Fun fact: He tried to get into higher ranks with a similar strategy (providing extensive market research and knowledge). The griefer once told me his father was a Wall Street banker so he'd know stuff. ;) Turns out the corp is now closed anyway...
I'd rather not give out any alts because a) There is no guarantee that the background check provides real alts and I'd like to keep away from ill-founded public humiliation. b) In case the alts are true, I'd rather have the griefer not knowing how much we know about him.
I think VV will agree with this. |

Vaerah Vahrokha
Vahrokh Consulting
1944
|
Posted - 2012.10.28 17:24:00 -
[26] - Quote
Vadane Deninard wrote:We have a list of alts and I'll keep monitoring them. I have already warned the CEO of a new corp the griefer was joining in. Fun fact: He tried to get into higher ranks with a similar strategy (providing extensive market research and knowledge). The griefer once told me his father was a Wall Street banker so he'd know stuff. ;) Turns out the corp is now closed anyway...
I'd rather not give out any alts because a) There is no guarantee that the background check provides real alts and I'd like to keep away from ill-founded public humiliation. b) In case the alts are true, I'd rather have the griefer not knowing how much we know about him.
I think VV will agree with this.
Of course, that's why I did not mention about giving out lists. As you might know, in the past I have paid quite hard my preference of absolute respect for my Customers' privacy. Auditing | Collateral holding and insurance | Consulting | PLEX for Good Charity
Twitter channel |

Ji Sama
Metropolis Mining and Manufacturing Company 3M Unlimited
20
|
Posted - 2012.11.06 09:26:00 -
[27] - Quote
Confirming receipt of interest. Thank you. |
| |
|
| Pages: [1] :: one page |
| First page | Previous page | Next page | Last page |