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Scorpii Zenith Minmatar Ancient Heat	Posted - 2011.06.25 06:08:00 - [1] Edited by: Scorpii Zenith on 25/06/2011 06:08:55 Nothing has changed, or will change. Already you have RL CASH -> GTC -> PLEX -> EVERYTHING THERE IS IN GAME INCLUDING AUR ITEMS. Also ISK -> EVERYTHING IN GAME INCLUDING AUR ITEMS. You have been able to buy SP with RL cash for over seven years, in character bazaar. RL CASH -> GTC -> ISK -> SP. EVERYTHING IN THIS GAME CAN BE PURCHASED WITH REAL LIFE CASH. When you dock up you can use fitting screen button at left bar in your GUI and item/ship hangar at right side. You do not have to move inside your CQ in order to move stuff from your ship or to your ship. Only thing has changed, is that crappy PC's can't handle it. Just like they couldn't handle TRINITY four years ago.
Onyx Blackman	Posted - 2011.06.25 06:10:00 - [2] Buying ISK utilizing PLEX does not undermine player production.
George Wilkes Hill	Posted - 2011.06.25 06:11:00 - [3] Originally by: Scorpii Zenith Edited by: Scorpii Zenith on 25/06/2011 06:08:55 Nothing has changed, or will change. Already you have RL CASH -> GTC -> PLEX -> EVERYTHING THERE IS IN GAME INCLUDING AUR ITEMS. Also ISK -> EVERYTHING IN GAME INCLUDING AUR ITEMS. You have been able to buy SP with RL cash for over seven years, in character bazaar. RL CASH -> GTC -> ISK -> SP. EVERYTHING IN THIS GAME CAN BE PURCHASED WITH REAL LIFE CASH. When you dock up you can use fitting screen button at left bar in your GUI and item/ship hangar at right side. You do not have to move inside your CQ in order to move stuff from your ship or to your ship. Only thing has changed, is that crappy PC's can't handle it. Just like they couldn't handle TRINITY four years ago. Hey guy, way to ignore what people are actually raging about. Congratulations on making a complete ass of yourself. This thread has been seen at least 40 times today. Every time we say the same thing you got it wrong. We get what you're saying now it's time to understand what we're saying no one is really raging about anything you just posted. Good day sir.
Allyria Kylari	Posted - 2011.06.25 06:12:00 - [4] Oh shut up, troll. You know nothing about demand stimulation or moving purchasing power.
WhiskeyGirl	Posted - 2011.06.25 06:12:00 - [5] are you CCP? no.
Alley Specter	Posted - 2011.06.25 06:13:00 - [6] Date: Thu, 23 Jun 2011 18:16:54 -0400 To: [email protected] Subject: ccp ceo global msg sent today From: [email protected] Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=öUTF-8″ Message-Id: <[email protected]> sent by hilmar to ccp global list- (strt) We live in interesting times; in fact CCP is the kind of company that if things get repetitive we instinctively crank it up a notch. That, we certainly have done this week. First of we have Incarna, an amazing technological and artistic achievement. A vision from years ago realized to a point that no one could have imaged but a few months ago. It rolls out without a hitch, is in some cases faster than what we had before, this is the pinnacle of professional achievement. For all the noise in the channel we should all stand proud, years from now this is what people will remember. But we have done more, not only have we redefined the production quality one can apply to virtual worlds with the beautiful Incarna but we have also defined what it really means to make virtual reality more meaningful than real life when it comes to launching our new virtual goods currency, Aurum. Naturally, we have caught the attention of the world. Only a few weeks ago we revealed more information about DUST 514 and now we have done it again by committing to our core purpose as a company by redefining assumptions. After 40 hours we have already sold 52 monocles, generating more revenue than any of the other items in the store. This we have done after months of research by a group of highly competent professionals, soliciting input and perspective from thought leaders and experts in and around our industry. We have communicated our intention here internally in very wide circles through the Virtual Economy Summit presentation at the GSM, our Fearless newsletter, sprint reviews, email lists and multiple other channels. This should not come as a surprise to anyone. Currently we are seeing _very predictable feedback_ on what we are doing. Having the perspective of having done this for a decade, I can tell you that this is one of the moments where we look at what our players do and less of what they say. Innovation takes time to set in and the predictable reaction is always to resist change. We went out with a decisive strategy on pricing and we will stay the course and not flip flop around or knee jerk react to the predictable. That is not saying nothing will change, on the contrary, in fact we know that success in this space is through learning and adapting to _what is actually happening_ and new knowledge gained in addition to what we knew before and expected. All that said, I couldnGÇÖt be prouder of what we have accomplished as a company, changing the world is hard and we are doing it as so many times before! Stay the course, we have done this many times before. (end)
Umega Solis Mensa	Posted - 2011.06.25 06:19:00 - [7] Originally by: Onyx Blackman Buying ISK utilizing PLEX does not undermine player production. Are faction/officer mods made by players? Can they be bought with isk abtained by selling a PLEX aquired with rl cash? Do you believe RMT/botting rings undermine player production? Did you know that increased PLEX value puts a serious hurt on RMT/botting circles? Did you know that nullsec is a desolate wasteland of RMT production n politics? Did you know that wh space is an increasing revune and hiding spot for RMT activity? Did you know that RMT mission bots put a serious hurt on LP value for legit players? The more you know.. ya know? ---------------------------------------- Treat the EVE markets like you are its Pimp.. it is your 'willing' employee to fondle n use n abuse as you please.
Onyx Blackman	Posted - 2011.06.25 06:47:00 - [8] Originally by: Umega Originally by: Onyx Blackman Buying ISK utilizing PLEX does not undermine player production. Are faction/officer mods made by players? Can they be bought with isk abtained by selling a PLEX aquired with rl cash? Do you believe RMT/botting rings undermine player production? Did you know that increased PLEX value puts a serious hurt on RMT/botting circles? Did you know that nullsec is a desolate wasteland of RMT production n politics? Did you know that wh space is an increasing revune and hiding spot for RMT activity? Did you know that RMT mission bots put a serious hurt on LP value for legit players? The more you know.. ya know? What part of any of these scenarios involves effortless ISK and mineral injection into the market?
Florestan Bronstein draketrain	Posted - 2011.06.25 06:56:00 - [9] Edited by: Florestan Bronstein on 25/06/2011 06:56:19 Originally by: Umega Originally by: Onyx Blackman Buying ISK utilizing PLEX does not undermine player production. Are faction/officer mods made by players? Can they be bought with isk abtained by selling a PLEX aquired with rl cash? yes, they are as much made by players as the veldspar mined from a roid Do you believe RMT/botting rings undermine player production? no, because these are players in my mind Did you know that increased PLEX value puts a serious hurt on RMT/botting circles? "serious" hurt is an overstatement but high PLEX prices aren't bad... Did you know that nullsec is a desolate wasteland of RMT production n politics? have been living in different areas of null-sec for about a year and that's news to me; everytime I log in I see 50-100 people in local and these are certainly no bots Did you know that wh space is an increasing revune and hiding spot for RMT activity? logistics.... Did you know that RMT mission bots put a serious hurt on LP value for legit players? so do other players... up to CCP to balance payouts The more you know.. ya know?
Scorpii Zenith Minmatar Ancient Heat	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:09:00 - [10] LOL@bitter nerds in this thread. Prove me wrong, everything in this game can already be purchased with using real life cash. Even state raven, if seller wants to sell. You can create character, get some GTC, sell them for ISK, buy character for character bazaar, sell some more GTC to get faction fitted sologankmobile, and BAM! You are pwning in pvp right at your very first day in EVE. Why aren't you whining about PLEX? It gives the same POWER with REAL LIFE CASH. MOney is power. You can buy 1000 PLEX and cash them out and start an empire.
VinLieger Caldari Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:12:00 - [11] Originally by: Scorpii Zenith LOL@bitter nerds in this thread. Prove me wrong, everything in this game can already be purchased with using real life cash. Even state raven, if seller wants to sell. You can create character, get some GTC, sell them for ISK, buy character for character bazaar, sell some more GTC to get faction fitted sologankmobile, and BAM! You are pwning in pvp right at your very first day in EVE. Why aren't you whining about PLEX? It gives the same POWER with REAL LIFE CASH. MOney is power. You can buy 1000 PLEX and cash them out and start an empire. Yes but it has already been "created" by other players, this new idea is basically magicing ships into the game and completely avoiding the market altogether -----------------------
JitaPriceChecker2	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:13:00 - [12] Posting in another "i still dont get the difference between PLEX trades and printing stuff out of thin air" thread.
Discrodia Gallente Symbiosis International Moose Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:15:00 - [13] Originally by: Scorpii Zenith LOL@bitter nerds in this thread. Prove me wrong, everything in this game can already be purchased with using real life cash. Even state raven, if seller wants to sell. You can create character, get some GTC, sell them for ISK, buy character for character bazaar, sell some more GTC to get faction fitted sologankmobile, and BAM! You are pwning in pvp right at your very first day in EVE. Why aren't you whining about PLEX? It gives the same POWER with REAL LIFE CASH. MOney is power. You can buy 1000 PLEX and cash them out and start an empire. Okay, let me explain it to you simply: When you buy and sell a plex, you are empowering someone else with the ability to play for a month while recieving ISK in return. This ISK can then be used to buy stuff, which is also made by other players. You are helping other people, in addition to CCP. Now, if you just use the plex to make ships magically appear, you are only helping yourself and CCP, bypassing the market which is one of this games key features. Originally by: anonymous WE JUST DID SCIENCE!
Scorpii Zenith Minmatar Ancient Heat	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:22:00 - [14] ....... it doesn't change the fact that someone gets power with real money.............................................
K Raz Danish Trade and Mining Inc. Frontier Trading and Co Alliance	Posted - 2011.06.25 17:35:00 - [15] Originally by: Scorpii Zenith LOL@bitter nerds in this thread. Prove me wrong, everything in this game can already be purchased with using real life cash. Even state raven, if seller wants to sell. You can create character, get some GTC, sell them for ISK, buy character for character bazaar, sell some more GTC to get faction fitted sologankmobile, and BAM! You are pwning in pvp right at your very first day in EVE. Why aren't you whining about PLEX? It gives the same POWER with REAL LIFE CASH. MOney is power. You can buy 1000 PLEX and cash them out and start an empire. You haven't played very long have you? If i bought skills and a pwnmobile with RL cash, I'd be really ****ed when i lost it to the first gatecamp due to my own stupidity. I'd love popping that ship with a few mates, and then enjoy the tears and smack afterwards, while scooping my t1 drones in my tempest my alt mined the tritanium for. Adapt, overcome. Have fun while doing it

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