I have read the isk guide the otherday, but for some reason i realised it just produces basic items rather than needed resources. Is it even profitable?!!!!!!

People largely abandoned the whole PI thing. It just didn't take.

Sure is! As long as you're doing it in lowsec or 0.0

I have read the isk guide the otherday, but for some reason i realised it just produces basic items rather than needed resources. Is it even profitable?!!!!!!

I can't decide what's more boring: PI or Mass Effect 2/3 planet scanning.

Did a little digging and it seems what killed highsec planetary interaction (PI) profitbility was increased tax rates. That's a shame, highsec PI would make a nice passive isk generator for new players, Jove knows older players have more than enough isk faucets to draw from.

Because high sec players need more passive isk generators?

Nope.

no risk no reward

Yes that mantra is all well and good for established players who can afford to take risks but for the new player one false move can completely wipe us out.

and?

And perhaps you're too old to remember what it was like starting out, or you were like the members of some of these large nullsec alliances and had a safety net in place before you even started. Point is this can be a very tough game for the average new player to get into and we need all the help we can get, especially as people like you lobby for ever harsher nerfs to our part of the sandbox.

When I was a newbie I stuffed every bit of isk I owned in the form of zydrine into a tormentor and made round trips dozens of jumps into NRDS Providence so I could fill the high end min buy orders in their manufacturing space (before grav sites, lots of 0.0 regions had to buy high ends). No safety net, no anything.

After listening to fellow newbies in FNA chat, )]

Because high sec players need more passive isk generators?

When I was a newbie I stuffed every bit of isk I owned in the form of zydrine into a tormentor and made round trips dozens of jumps into NRDS Providence so I could fill the high end min buy orders in their manufacturing space (before grav sites, lots of 0.0 regions had to buy high ends). No safety net, no anything.

It never has been so easy for beginners to earn ISK.
Sure, if you expect to pay your account by PLEX, thats not so easy, but possible, if you'r smart and spend enough time in game.
Noobs dont need that much ISK, the real expensive stuff - they cant use it anyway.

Therefore a semi-passive income of say 5-10mil a day is a large chunk of the ISK needed - for a beginner, while it is only pocket
charge for a vet.

I think that about hits the nail on the head. Is PI profitable in high sec? Yes, it can be, even for young pilots. It's a lot easier to just jump straight into lvl 1 missions or mining in a frig/dessie/huller though because the tutorials set you up and train you to do just that. If you want to get into PI though, take some time to make a list of what you can make with your PI skills, and then go to the nearest market hub look up those items in the market, and figure out which ones are will be most profitable.

As Sola said, you won't make a lot but it is a significant amount for a new player. Even still you should really just look at PI as a way to supplement your mission/mining income. I know this game has a steep learning curve and has never been particularly noob friendly, but there are a lot of people who provide great resources to help you if you know where to look. Eve university has a bunch of info on PI on their wiki that helped me a lot. You can find it here

Just as an example though, with 5 high sec planets on one character, I pull about 40 to 50 million net profit every 3 days for about 1 to 1.5 hours of work. It would be a lot higher if it weren't for the import/export taxes, but point is, you can still make a decent amount even in high sec. On the other hand, if I spent that 1.5 hours running lvl 4's, I'd probably make as much or more. The reason I still do PI is because most of my time spent on on it is running stuff from my planets to trade hubs and I can combine that with other trading activity I do so I kill 2 birds with one stone.

After listening to fellow newbies in FNA chat, I find it hard to believe you didn't have any assistance if you knew to do what you did. With that said I'm gonna drop this because obviously we come from two very different ways of thinking and I doubt any kind of consensus can be reached. You can call me a coward all you want, but in doing so it seems like you're making assumptions about what I have and haven't done in this game so far, and from what I gather that can be a very dangerous thing to do in this community.

I think 2 was worse