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Rodrom Caldera
Gallente
The Rosicrucian Order
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:09:00 -
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Edited by: Rodrom Caldera on 26/06/2011 19:18:06
Dear Coplayers
In this forum I want to Start collecting The Question that the CSM members wil take to CCP. We need to be as one unity to get this matter resolved. Below i accumilated allready a few of the Questions.
1) Bring Back The Spinning ship and give us the option to disembark. Thus reducing the lag/loading times of docking up into the station.
2) Is CCP planning to introduce Non-vanity Items. Items that wil enhance the game in any sort?
3) Communication. We want CCP to communicate in a better way. Good communication wil prevent a crysis like we seen in the past few days.
4) What was the reason CCP inplemented the MT system?
Please put your questions in this forum.
I will update the question list accordenly.
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Cave Lord
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:12:00 -
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Why are we suffering and taking the brunt of immersion-breaking/market-destroying real money trading because CCP chose to divert funds to 2 other game projects?
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Ydnari
Gallente
Estrale Frontiers
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: Ydnari on 26/06/2011 19:15:32
http://eve.beyondreality.se/NeXCQResponse.html
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AndreaMena
Minmatar
Tanuki Heavy Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:16:00 -
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 Originally by: Ydnari
Edited by: Ydnari on 26/06/2011 19:15:32
http://eve.beyondreality.se/NeXCQResponse.html
That
And please I hope CSM will keep us VERY updated this time round. . .
CCP this is actually your last chance. Are you aware of that? :(
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Lacrime DelSole
Light Speed Interactive
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:17:00 -
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We also have a survey regarding this, if any of you are willing to fill this out.
We ask very specific questions, we are not doing an open list for discussion.
Light Speed Interactive Questionnaire
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Representative,
Light Speed Interactive
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Swren1
Muppet Ninja's
Ninja Unicorns with Huge Horns
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:18:00 -
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Bring back the old station view!!!
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cytex malrone
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:26:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1538210
This sums up the issues quite well although i would push to get rid of the nex store altogether
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Highpriest Aden
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:36:00 -
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Fix the game. I dont give a flying turtle's rearend about walking around in stations.
We have bugs that is retartet old.
fix 0.0, fix ship ballance.
We dont need eyecandy, but we do need to have fun again playing the game.
The community needs to be respektet.
We pay for the game, you deliver the produkt we want, otherwise there will be -4 subs on my behalf.
I actuarly pay for 3 games, EVE, Dust and WOD, the stockholders/investors should pay for the development for a game, I dont like beeing a cashcow.
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Morae
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:36:00 -
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Can we throw a "Free our political prisoners" in there, by any chance?
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Laruen Pleides
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:43:00 -
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Originally by: Ydnari
Edited by: Ydnari on 26/06/2011 19:15:32
http://eve.beyondreality.se/NeXCQResponse.html
Definitely this.
It is thorough, non-aggressive, and very well thought out. It should be printed out and hand delivered to the top level management.
Unfortunatley, we can only hope they will read it.
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Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:43:00 -
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I don't have questions, I have demands.
1) Micro-Transactions
NO Micro-Transactions beyond purely cosmetic value. That means paint jobs, hats, pants, clothing, ship decals, etc. If it is not cosmetic, pure fluff vanity, it is an anathema to the sandbox!
If a player can sit in a chair, then players should make the chair! If CCP wants to charge for a paint job for the chair, then charge for nicer chairs that are functionally no different from player made chairs, and require a player made chair to even produce!
No RENTAL FEES on bars, store fronts, etc beyond ISK! No gambling for anything other than ISK!
No Faction standings, no rental fees for "more ship fittings", no security status fees/fixes/bribes/THEFT!
2) CQ
Make CQ optional by giving us the old hangar, and a button to get out of our pod and go into the CQ if we want to do that. I look forward to walking in stations. I do not look forward to walking in lag or being forced into a clothing store for $1000 pants!
FIX the damn thing - You are melting people's hardware! This horrific CPU and memory eating toy should not have made it out the door. It has leaks, I have watched them, it is not good. Fix it. Quality matters, beauty fades.
3) Communicate!
I find it amazing how out of touch you, CCP, have become with your customers. You thought we were mad about the cost of some silly cartoon pants? We made a fuss because it is such a joke, it just added fuel to growing skepticism.
You may have very well done irrevocable harm to the trust of your customers. Get back in touch with your roots. You are not Microsoft, You are not Sony, You are not Apple - You're a game company. We should not be seen as your customers, we should be seen as your friends. That is the power and value of an independent production house. If you can not grasp this, you are lost.
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ
We'll watch what you do not what you say.
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The Shylock
Amarr
FSG
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:46:00 -
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1 - Unban any accounts that were banned for linking to / disseminating the Fearless newsletter
2 - Get confirmation from CCP that only vanity items will be available for purchase with AUR.
3 - Get prices in the NeX store brought down to a realistic level.
4 - Establish a precedent for CCP to talk to both the CSM and the player-base before launching similar ventures, and explain their stance / direction in detail.
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Elayae
Gallente
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:49:00 -
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Please do not take away my fun. Read my concerns.
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1536065&page=326
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Xia Long
Two Brothers Mining Corp.
R.A.G.E
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:59:00 -
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Linking my thread aswell for completion
here
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Smiling Sally
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Posted - 2011.06.26 19:59:00 -
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Make CQ optional by giving us the old hangar, and a button to get out of our pod and go into the CQ if we want to do that......... Thats All ............ OH and stuff all Microtransaction's in the station reactors might have some use there.
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Elaine Eza
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:00:00 -
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As per popular vote:
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1395464
only 10% of the players (that took part in the vote) are in favour of cosmetic microtransactions. Will CCP acknowledge that therefore the removal of the Noble Exchange should be considered? If not considered: How much efforts (as in development time) is CCP going to put into the creation of theese items that only 10% of the players are interested in? |
Typecast
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:12:00 -
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Whatever the questions asked, can the CSM push CCP for definite answers?
I don't want to hear the words "may", "could" or "maybe" in CCP's responses. I want answers that are factual statements, not the kinds of answers we've received over the last week.
Do not accept vague answers.
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Slye Starbane
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:15:00 -
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I'm somewhat new (half a year), but love eve just the same as any. The only thing i would ask of CCP is that they devote more resources to improving the quality and stability of their product, before focusing on expanding and finding new ways to profit from it. I have tried very hard to bring other gamer friends of mine to eve, but have had no success due to what they all agree is an un-polished game. I have also never experienced as many glitches and crashes with any other online game, which really makes it a labor of love, patience, and irrational forgiveness to keep playing as much as i do.
With the recent expansion, and activation of the Noble Exchange store, it appears to me that quality is taking a back seat to pursuing revenue through the ability to buy virtual property the way so many other gaming companies are these days. Don't forget that the best way to increase and maintain revenue is by having a product that is good, and therefore attracts more customers.
I really hope this message reaches the ears of a company that cares. Your community obviously does. Thank you for any attention you give to my humble input.
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Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Ydnari
http://eve.beyondreality.se/NeXCQResponse.html
That.
Please make CQ optional, with a disembark from the ship hanger view.
Originally by: Allestin Villimar
Also, if your bookmarks are too far out, they can and will ban you for it.
Originally by: Torothanax
Low population in w systems makes afk cloaking unattractive.
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Dawne Xi
Minmatar
3D Salvage and Acquisitions
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Posted - 2011.06.26 20:42:00 -
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Originally by: Rodrom Caldera
1) Make the CQ optional and Bring Back the old hangerbay. make it so that we get the option to disembark. Thus reducing the lag/loading times of docking up into the station.
This also make players with older pcs able to play eve again.
In addition to making it optional, could we please make seperate graphics settings for in space and in stations? One setting doesn't appear to fit all.
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Gerth Dopple
Hole Spectors
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Posted - 2011.06.26 21:37:00 -
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Originally by: "random dude"
there can be only one!
Will we see MT for non-vanity items?
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Jenn Ji'e'toh
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Posted - 2011.06.26 21:49:00 -
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-Fix glitches that ocure, to me these are more impotent then vanity iteams
-have good customer support when i need it i need it
-concentrate on fixing then updating the game
-alow us to lower station walking graphics lower end computers like mine can't support it
-I know this ins't a big deal, but i would like the option of having the incursion hanger veiw i like to see my ship
-Lower the cost of vanity iteams i mean 1 plex is way ot much for any iteam and 1/3 of one should be the high end stuff (agian please concentarte on game play, and blance of ships first)
-Only vanity iteams in the au store anyting else alows people to get overpowerd
-let us get decent insurance on tech 2 ships i mean insurnce is i lost my ship ok so now i have to get a tad bit more and i can get a new ship. Point is treat tech 2 ships like capital ship insurance so not just base mineral, but also componts. I will not insure another tech 2 ship till then beacuse to me it's not worth my time to do it beacuse i view insurance as a 12 week emergancy fund if my ship gets destroyed.
I am sorry for any mispelling. I think this form was a great idea incourges people like me to speak thanks Rodrom
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Rodrom Caldera
Gallente
The Rosicrucian Order
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Posted - 2011.06.26 22:05:00 -
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Im trying to adress all question you guys present, but keep in mind that the Question need to be related to the incarna patch or MT.
Reason that T2 ships got a low insurrence is because insurrence covers the basic costs of the resources needed to build it. As resource are player driven prices are alot higher then basic cost.
CCP wil prolly never change the insurrance policy towards T2 ships/faction ships as it is ment to be a money sink.
Keep Putting your questions in!!! thanks guys for helping out
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J'Anik Cora
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Posted - 2011.06.26 22:24:00 -
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Originally by: Ydnari
Edited by: Ydnari on 26/06/2011 19:15:32
http://eve.beyondreality.se/NeXCQResponse.html
I agree wholeheartedly with both that link and the replies in this thread so far (up to post #21 as I write this).
The overall feeling I got from Incarna was that it was a rush job to meet release deadline. There is well established precedent for delaying a patch if it isn't quite ready yet, an option which I feel Incarna could have greatly benefited from (as evidenced by 3-4 hotfixes being released within hours/days of patch day) but which for whatever reasons was ignored. Why was Incarna not delayed?
The communication breakdown as pointed out before was also evident in the fact that it wasn't until patch day, I believe, that the patch notes were released. Again, there's precedent for releasing patch notes days or even weeks early and adjusting them as necessary when something doesn't make the patch or gets added at the last minute. Why was this not done?
As for the NeX, personally I don't care the vanity items currently on sale are ridiculously overpriced, I'll just never buy one. I do care however when even the idea of non-vanity items gets uttered. I already pay a subscription fee which in theory gives me equal access to everything any other subscriber has access to. I can live with the idea of losing a ship to a better PVPer, either through higher SP count, better fitting, better tactics, more friends... I cannot live with the idea of losing to someone with a bigger disposable income. I'd like to hear an unequivocal answer to the question "Will there ever be non-vanity items sold through the NeX".
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Mars Theran
Caldari
EVE Rogues
EVE Rogues Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.26 22:54:00 -
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First, this meeting between CCP and the CSM is specifically to address micro transactions, and second if there is time after that has been done, then maybe this is relevant. If they do have that time, and it's allowable, then I don't see why they shouldn't briefly discuss other issues.
1) Make the CQ optional and Bring Back the old hanger bay. make it so that we get the option to disembark. Thus reducing the lag/loading times of docking up into the station.
This also make players with older pcs able to play eve again.
Agreed, though I could see an alternative to the hangar bay being functional and acceptable. The point is not to break immersion, while giving pilots a less graphics intensive alternative that is fully functional. I like pod spinning personally, inside my capsule, in my ship.
2) Is CCP planning to introduce Non-vanity Items. Items that will enhance the game in any sort?
I think the answer has been given, if not completely. The ability to get a BPC, or customize a ship extends beyond simple vanity items in Incarna related features. That doesn't mean they will be introducing modules and items that haven't previously existed; and there is really no point in selling existing items through micro transactions.
3) Communication. We want CCP to communicate in a better way. Good communication will prevent a crisis like we seen in the past few days.
A very good way is to open up a monthly Question blog. In this Blog the most pressing question can be collected and answered.
Join Twitter and follow the various Dev's. They are relatively active there, and it's a far better means of communications than this is, based on recent history, and past experience. I feel that it would be good if CCP incorporated a Live Dev Chat into the new forums, moderated and available at specific times.
4) What was the reason CCP inplemented the MT system? And what are the alternative options for MT
From what I understand, CCP hired a new 3D artist to provide the player requested content, such as new ship textures, clothing, and the like), and Micro Transactions were brought into play as a means to help cover the additional development costs, while simultaneously providing an ISK sink for older wealthier players, and Corporation and Alliance leaders, and reducing the existing PLEX on the market to balance out subscriptions vs. income.
A large majority of the player base hoards huge amounts of PLEX, while a greater majority relies on them and others to provide those PLEX on the market for game time conversion. This means that yearly subscriptions and subscription income do not necessarily jive and balance out. Presumeably, these changes may be expected to balance this out.
5) There is many hatred thrown to each other. As a token of trust is it possible to pardon a few ppl. This to open up a bridge betwean playerbase and ccp.
No opinion, and it's not my place to give one.
6) If Micro-transaction is here to stay. is it possible to lower prices. This to make it more accessible for less fortunate players.
As I understand, the micro transaction system will eventually have available items at multiple price-points. You may not be able to get a monocle, but a new pair of shades?.. maybe. Essentially the design implies an evolving caste system, which differentiates the rich from the poor, in terms of ISK. PLEX and RL money need not enter into this equation, given they are purchaseable on the market, and the final use is up to the player.
Just my thoughts.
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Zeronic
Gallente
Zero Core Labs
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Posted - 2011.06.26 22:56:00 -
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Edited by: Zeronic on 26/06/2011 22:57:16
1: What about in addition to the check mark, there is a drop down for Station Enviorment, Pre Incarna and Post Incarna.
2: Clothes or shuttles aka "Gold Shuttles" would be fine I think. Also a side note on this one, the Char Creator seems to have less option then the old one. I hope they plan to add more "Free Clothes" as time goes on.
6: I think the prices should be lower across the board.
6:(7*) Yes a lot of other issues need to be address but before more Content is added. The slow deploy seems to work well with this game. Also being able to pre patch would be nice, code is slowly added just not "Turned On" as of yet.
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Tuggboat
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.26 22:59:00 -
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Originally by: Lacrime DelSole
We also have a survey regarding this, if any of you are willing to fill this out.
We ask very specific questions, we are not doing an open list for discussion.
Light Speed Interactive Questionnaire
wtf is we?
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Temulkar Blaine
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Posted - 2011.06.27 00:24:00 -
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For me this issue is about non vanity items, and the ridiculous cost in the vanity store.
They really need to clarify Vanity items as well, Are we going to see bars and shops that have been so loudly trumpeted by CCP being only available through AUR? will hiring a corp room reflect the price of hiring an office in a station.
Personally I have no problem with vanity items but anything that effects a players tactical or strategic play is a game breaker.
What has really concerned me is the PR disaster of the last four days!!!! This is the blame of the CEO, Hilmar's failure to address this situation personally to the player base is appalling leadership of an organisation. He needs to get a reality check from this.
His trip to Gateshead should be cancelled and he should publicly apologise to the player community for being so dismissive, scornfull and arrogant towards their feelings. The fact he has the arrogance to stand in front of a trade audience that have been laughing at him all weekend is stunning. He should be preparing for this meeting with the CSM and trying to save his company.
CCP is clearly in trouble with its clients, it clearly has internal problems and dissent. They have drifted from disaster to disaster recently and their delivery of content has been appalling.
Words mean nothing it is actions and visible actions by CCP that stop this becoming a bigger diaster than SWG.
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lech lizdian
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Posted - 2011.06.27 00:43:00 -
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Originally by: MeBiatch
Edited by: MeBiatch on 26/06/2011 23:55:24
make the storeBPC only!
This is how it should work.
I have a list of items in the store all of them are bpc's (each bpc has 5 runs on it)
lets say this time i pick monocole so i drop $60 bones and get the bpc...
i then have a list of ruff materials that i need to make the awesome monocles...
so i jump in my hauler go over the the planet and start making the base materials i need...
once i have the materials i then go back to the station and open industry and start a run cycle to construct the monocles...
I can then sell this item on contract or market or my store(when i get one) for ISK...
Do MT this way and i dont think people will have a problem with it...
make the arum store BPC only
Personally i would want my store to be a "west cost choppers" where i install awesome engine trails and paint jobs...
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Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.06.27 05:46:00 -
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The CSM must ask what happened to the old CCP.
What did the old CCP do? They listened to what the players wanted! Examples? The players banded together to form sort of alliances. What happened? CCP introduced Alliances into the game.
Or players lived out of industrials in deep space. What did CCP do? They introduced POS.
All of these gameplay elements were optional, no one was FORCED to participate.
What is CCP doing now?
They FORCE people to participate on their new content. Look at how they introduced the new forums, look at how they introduced CQ - only after massive technical problems for many players they made it optional to turn it off.
So my questions:
1) Why is CCP since a few development cycles now enforcing stuff on players that they don't want?
2) Will CQ stay optional?
3) Is CCP planing on giving us back the old hangar functionality? |
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