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pohkfririce
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Posted - 2011.06.26 23:46:00 -
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I am a pretty new player, with about 11m SP, and I'm starting to work my way into level 4 missions but I need advice on ship usage.
From what I've heard the Caldari line is basically supreme in mission running, but I have very few missile skills and really have no desire to fly a raven or tengu, let alone spending the time to upgrade to a golem or CNR. I fly minnie and ammar ships, and I'm currently using an armor tanked cane to run level 3 missions which are a breeze, and even a few of the easier L4s, although they take a lot of time and it's really not very efficient.
Right now my cane is fitted in all t2, with t2 guns, and I'm currently training up shield skills as I've seen a lot of minmatar fits on battleclinic using shield tanks. My main questions are as follows: Which are the prime minmatar ships I should be flying in L4s? I've seen mostly maelstrom fits (also is shield tank the way to go here?), so should I not try and use a tempest or typhoon for missions? Also, should I continue running L3s quickly in my cane while I train tier2 large projectiles? Or could I fit named T1 arti guns on a maelstrom/tempest while training for T2 and still run L4s somewhat effectively? Also any feedback on specific fits / skill training reccomendations would be appreciated! Thanks for reading
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Alara IonStorm
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Posted - 2011.06.27 00:03:00 -
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Mealstrom is a good choice. Large Alpha means using Faction Ammo is cheaper as well.
[Maelstrom, New Setup 1]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
X-Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Photon Scattering Field II
Heat Dissipation Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Heavy Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I, Cap Booster 800
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP L
1400mm 'Scout' Artillery I, Republic Fleet EMP L
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
Hammerhead II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
Hobgoblin II x5
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pohkfririce
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Posted - 2011.06.27 00:15:00 -
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Thanks, that looks like a great setup while I train for T2 large guns. So I'm guessing using named T1 would still let me run the missions with relative speed / ease? Also a maelstrom really my only option? Should I not worry bother with a tempest or typhoon?
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2011.06.27 00:29:00 -
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 Originally by: pohkfririce
Thanks, that looks like a great setup while I train for T2 large guns. So I'm guessing using named T1 would still let me run the missions with relative speed / ease?
Meta 4 is pretty much the way to go on an arti fit as T2 is a ***** to fit. T2 opens up the autocannon option with Barrage though so it's still well worth training.
Originally by: pohkfririce
Also a maelstrom really my only option? Should I not worry bother with a tempest or typhoon?
Forget the Typhoon outright. There are hack cruise/arti/sentry fits out there but not only is the training time ludicrous when trying to get in L4s, the efficiency is also meh.
They Tempest is sort of an option if you have no shield skills. But the Maelstrom is definitely the go-to Minmatar mission ship.
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pohkfririce
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Posted - 2011.06.27 04:56:00 -
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Thanks, I didn't realize T2 arty is not really used. My shield skills are meh right now, but it's only about a week or so to get them up to par for a decent t2 shield tank, so I'll just hold off for a bit and keep flying the Cane while I get matar BS IV and large turret skills as well as my shield tank.
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Headerman
Minmatar
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.06.27 06:19:00 -
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^^^ T2 Artillery IS used, the Large arty spec skill to 4 adds an extra 8% damage to each shot, so it does add up.
Also, T2 arty is usually cheaper (not always though).
Lastly, only equip T2 1400's when you have AWU to 4, you won't need as many PG modules by then (but will still need some)
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Shynaski
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Posted - 2011.06.27 14:17:00 -
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I am pretty new myself (16m SP) and was quiet disapointed by the Mael in lvl 4s. While the tank is a beast with average shield skills, the damage applies very slow, and it's a bit boring waiting between 2 volleys (even if the sound makes up for it)
Looking around I beleive a Mael shines with T2 large AC, and I'll be training for that.
In the same time I spent a week cross training for a dominix - only at BS3 and sentry 3 - and it performs better overall (also it doesn allow you to spend your time on something else). Once i get those 2 skills at lvl 4 I will start going for T2 large AC and sit again in my Mael
as for the typhoon, I couldn't get enough dps from it, and the tempest enough tank
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Tiger Prince
Minmatar
Democracy of Klingon Brothers
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Posted - 2011.06.27 14:54:00 -
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If you can fly the Domi and the Mael, the next logical step is the Machariel. Not only is it one of the best mission boats, it chews through l4s
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Labceh
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Posted - 2011.06.27 15:10:00 -
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Originally by: Shynaski
I am pretty new myself (16m SP) and was quiet disapointed by the Mael in lvl 4s. While the tank is a beast with average shield skills, the damage applies very slow, and it's a bit boring waiting between 2 volleys (even if the sound makes up for it)
Looking around I beleive a Mael shines with T2 large AC, and I'll be training for that.
In the same time I spent a week cross training for a dominix - only at BS3 and sentry 3 - and it performs better overall (also it doesn allow you to spend your time on something else). Once i get those 2 skills at lvl 4 I will start going for T2 large AC and sit again in my Mael
as for the typhoon, I couldn't get enough dps from it, and the tempest enough tank
The maelstrom is beastly with T2 auto-cannons. I once tried the artillery version and I must say it is horrible compared to the AC version. When you get enough isk, buy yourself a Machariel to run missions; you'll be laughing by then.
Here's THE best fit you could have for level 4 missions once you get T2 AC. Note that travelling from one gate to an other takes ages.
[Maelstrom, AC Maelstrom: L4 Baby Varg: Dominion Ready.]
Tracking Enhancer II
Tracking Enhancer II
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Tracking Computer II
Invulnerability Field II
Invulnerability Field II
Explosion Dampening Field II
Heavy Capacitor Booster II
X-Large Shield Booster II
800mm Repeating Artillery II
800mm Repeating Artillery II
800mm Repeating Artillery II
800mm Repeating Artillery II
800mm Repeating Artillery II
800mm Repeating Artillery II
800mm Repeating Artillery II
800mm Repeating Artillery II
Large Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I
Large Core Defence Capacitor safeguard I
Large Projectile Burst Aerator II (You can switch this to an ambit)
Valkyrie II x5
Warrior II x5
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Julien Brellier
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Posted - 2011.06.27 19:14:00 -
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Maelstrom ftw.
Use 800mm for missions where the rats get close, and use 1400mm for sniping on missions where you can dictate range.
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2011.06.27 20:22:00 -
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Originally by: Headerman
^^^ T2 Artillery IS used, the Large arty spec skill to 4 adds an extra 8% damage to each shot, so it does add up.
Also, T2 arty is usually cheaper (not always though).
Lastly, only equip T2 1400's when you have AWU to 4, you won't need as many PG modules by then (but will still need some)
Yeah, I didn't mean to imply T2 1400s were never used. But if you have to drop a gyro to fit them then scouts can push out more damage.
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