Originally by: Alpine 69

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Great idea! Looking forward to the finished site.

I'd change the typing error on the homepage in "coming" though, which you've written as "comming". Also, "thoose" is spelled "those".

Disclaimer: Not trying to be a know-it-all ****, just trying to help you out with your initiative.

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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar

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I would like to open the hunt for monocles and such, as replacement for hulkageddon as it has been banned with his organizer.

OFFICIALL MONOCLEGEDDON SITE UNDER CONSTRUCTION

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Originally by: Amberlamps

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You need to set up a database of known monocle wearers then...

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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar

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Edited by: Kristina Vanszar on 27/06/2011 13:49:57

Originally by: Amberlamps

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You need to set up a database of known monocle wearers then...

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Already in work mate ;-)

Things comming:
MONOCLE DATABSE (every monocle will have a bounty on it)
SHOUTBOX
KILLBOARD

for now :-)

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Originally by: El Puerco

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So my Hulk is safe now?

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Originally by: ELECTR0FREAK

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Irony is that even if CCP does choose to go with the vanity-only MT system, buying a monocle will effect gameplay... it'll make you an instant target.

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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar

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Need some winning price sponsors, who is interrested.

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Originally by: Marcus Vorenius

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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar

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Need some winning price sponsors, who is interrested.

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I was planning on donating the 10 BILLION price I'm getting from RAW23 to charity, but this is a great initiative so I'll donate 1 BILLION from the price monies (disclaimer: only if I win - if you win i'll donate 10 mill)

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Originally by: Takayo Namura

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This is stupid an inmature! And its harassment as well. Why punish people that want to afford something nice for their character. This is the worst form of grieving. I for one support the MT shop and hope they bring out other nice accessories for my characters. Anybody that apears on such a vile list should petition to CCP for player harassment.

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Originally by: Takayo Namura

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This is stupid an inmature! And its harassment as well. Why punish people that want to afford something nice for their character. This is the worst form of grieving. I for one support the MT shop and hope they bring out other nice accessories for my characters. Anybody that apears on such a vile list should petition to CCP for player harassment.

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Originally by: The BlackDog

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I'm buying a monocle and forming an exclusive monocle wearers only corp.

This thread is now about corp name suggestions please, thx.

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Originally by: Takayo Namura

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This is stupid an inmature! And its harassment as well. Why punish people that want to afford something nice for their character. This is the worst form of grieving. I for one support the MT shop and hope they bring out other nice accessories for my characters. Anybody that apears on such a vile list should petition to CCP for player harassment.

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Originally by: The BlackDog

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I'm buying a monocle and forming an exclusive monocle wearers only corp.

This thread is now about corp name suggestions please, thx.

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Originally by: The BlackDog

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I'm buying a monocle and forming an exclusive monocle wearers only corp.

This thread is now about corp name suggestions please, thx.

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Originally by: Rebel biscuit

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hahah

good site though

corps should add WMSI (Wearing Monocle Shoot It) to their terms of engagement

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Originally by: MarcusVorenius via TWITTER

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New #eveonline capsuleer initiative: 'MONOCLEGEDDON' http://bit.ly/iuCbqz | #tweetfleet #dust514 #wod

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Hands up anyone who thinks people actually paid $ for their monocle

This whole idea is idiotic because 99% of you fail to understand how the NeX store works.


All you're doing is making the people who paid 1.5bil ISK! (you know, fake internet moneys) laugh and enjoy the attention, its no wonder more are buying monocles

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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar

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Ladys and gentlemen,

the list of monocles start to fill: Monoclegeddon

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Originally by: Takayo Namura

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This is stupid an inmature! And its harassment as well. Why punish people that want to afford something nice for their character. This is the worst form of grieving. I for one support the MT shop and hope they bring out other nice accessories for my characters. Anybody that apears on such a vile list should petition to CCP for player harassment.

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Originally by: Bad Messenger

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Hands up anyone who thinks people actually paid $ for their monocle

This whole idea is idiotic because 99% of you fail to understand how the NeX store works.


All you're doing is making the people who paid 1.5bil ISK! (you know, fake internet moneys) laugh and enjoy the attention, its no wonder more are buying monocles

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I am sure you can tell us how NeX store works?

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Originally by: Bad Messenger

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Hands up anyone who thinks people actually paid $ for their monocle

This whole idea is idiotic because 99% of you fail to understand how the NeX store works.


All you're doing is making the people who paid 1.5bil ISK! (you know, fake internet moneys) laugh and enjoy the attention, its no wonder more are buying monocles

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I am sure you can tell us how NeX store works?

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Well some derpa derps fail to understand you turn PLEX into AUR, not $ into AUR, meaning $ or ISK can be turned into AUR and zero RL money spent.

So instead of giving everything in NeX store a $ value it can just as easily be given an ISK value.

But seriously explaining that to the emoragingnerds is impossibleh. Half are convinced everythings bought with $ and the other half are in game poor and really want a monocle

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Originally by: MarcusVorenius via TWITTER

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@Chribba Show Niko your ISK - New #eveonline capsuleer initiative: 'MONOCLEGEDDON' http://bit.ly/iuCbqz | #tweetfleet

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Originally by: Bad Messenger

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Originally by: Bad Messenger

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Hands up anyone who thinks people actually paid $ for their monocle

This whole idea is idiotic because 99% of you fail to understand how the NeX store works.


All you're doing is making the people who paid 1.5bil ISK! (you know, fake internet moneys) laugh and enjoy the attention, its no wonder more are buying monocles

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I am sure you can tell us how NeX store works?

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Well some derpa derps fail to understand you turn PLEX into AUR, not $ into AUR, meaning $ or ISK can be turned into AUR and zero RL money spent.

So instead of giving everything in NeX store a $ value it can just as easily be given an ISK value.

But seriously explaining that to the emoragingnerds is impossibleh. Half are convinced everythings bought with $ and the other half are in game poor and really want a monocle

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Do you know also why people are rioting?

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Originally by: Marcus Vorenius

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Originally by: MarcusVorenius via TWITTER

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@Chribba Show Niko your ISK - New #eveonline capsuleer initiative: 'MONOCLEGEDDON' http://bit.ly/iuCbqz | #tweetfleet

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Originally by: Bad Messenger

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Do you know also why people are rioting?

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They're idiots?

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Originally by: Bad Messenger

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Hands up anyone who thinks people actually paid $ for their monocle

This whole idea is idiotic because 99% of you fail to understand how the NeX store works.


All you're doing is making the people who paid 1.5bil ISK! (you know, fake internet moneys) laugh and enjoy the attention, its no wonder more are buying monocles

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I am sure you can tell us how NeX store works?

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Well some derpa derps fail to understand you turn PLEX into AUR, not $ into AUR, meaning $ or ISK can be turned into AUR and zero RL money spent.

So instead of giving everything in NeX store a $ value it can just as easily be given an ISK value.

But seriously explaining that to the emoragingnerds is impossibleh. Half are convinced everythings bought with $ and the other half are in game poor and really want a monocle

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Originally by: Bad Messenger

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Hands up anyone who thinks people actually paid $ for their monocle

This whole idea is idiotic because 99% of you fail to understand how the NeX store works.


All you're doing is making the people who paid 1.5bil ISK! (you know, fake internet moneys) laugh and enjoy the attention, its no wonder more are buying monocles

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I am sure you can tell us how NeX store works?

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Well some derpa derps fail to understand you turn PLEX into AUR, not $ into AUR, meaning $ or ISK can be turned into AUR and zero RL money spent.

So instead of giving everything in NeX store a $ value it can just as easily be given an ISK value.

But seriously explaining that to the emoragingnerds is impossibleh. Half are convinced everythings bought with $ and the other half are in game poor and really want a monocle

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How is Aurum created? By consuming a PLEX. How are PLEX created? By paying real-life money.

How are NeX items created? By consuming Aurum. Therefor: NeX items are always paid for with real money, it's just not always the person using it that pays for it. Kinda like a coffin, which is a fitting analogy for this thread.

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Originally by: Bad Messenger

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Originally by: Bad Messenger

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Do you know also why people are rioting?

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They're idiots?

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Sort of yes. But main reason is that they believe illegal RMT guys propaganda. Those guys want that NeX store will go away so PLEX price stays low, and they can make more $ by selling isk illegal ways.

All those leaks and false news are funded by illegal isk sellers.

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Originally by: Jax Mones

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Edited by: Jax Mones on 27/06/2011 16:54:41

nono, its because they assume that CCP is going to add ships with better stats

that can only be bought in NeX store

(Ishukone scorpion)
(without the consumtion of a regular scorpion)

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Edited by: Saint Lazarus on 27/06/2011 16:58:09

Originally by: Jax Mones

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Edited by: Jax Mones on 27/06/2011 16:54:41

nono, its because they assume that CCP is going to add ships with better stats

that can only be bought in NeX store

(Ishukone scorpion)
(without the consumtion of a regular scorpion)

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And you could still buy them with ISK, what makes them different than expensive faction ships?

Edit: Assuming they sell you the BPC and still requires you to build it like a faction ship

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Originally by: Jax Mones

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Edited by: Jax Mones on 27/06/2011 16:54:41

nono, its because they assume that CCP is going to add ships with better stats

that can only be bought in NeX store

(Ishukone scorpion)
(without the consumtion of a regular scorpion)

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Originally by: Marcus Vorenius

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Originally by: Bad Messenger

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Originally by: Bad Messenger

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Do you know also why people are rioting?

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They're idiots?

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Sort of yes. But main reason is that they believe illegal RMT guys propaganda. Those guys want that NeX store will go away so PLEX price stays low, and they can make more $ by selling isk illegal ways.

All those leaks and false news are funded by illegal isk sellers.

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and just when I thought I have heard it all from ex-protester fanbois, genuine fanbois and CCP Alts you post this drivel?

Open your eyes, read a few posts and articles and THEN we would very much like to hear your opinion ... as for now, just p!ss off

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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So let me get this straight, people are emoraging because you can now buy PLEX with ISK from someone who spent RL money to get yourself a monocle but DIDNT care that for the last few years you could sell PLEX for ISK and use it to buy yourself a pimp faction BS?

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Originally by: Reilly Duvolle

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Originally by: Jax Mones

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Edited by: Jax Mones on 27/06/2011 16:54:41

nono, its because they assume that CCP is going to add ships with better stats

that can only be bought in NeX store

(Ishukone scorpion)
(without the consumtion of a regular scorpion)

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I am sure to you it makes much more sense to loose 5000 accounts than to confirm the non-existence of such plans if there is indeed none.

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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How is Aurum created? By consuming a PLEX. How are PLEX created? By paying real-life money.

How are NeX items created? By consuming Aurum. Therefor: NeX items are always paid for with real money, it's just not always the person using it that pays for it. Kinda like a coffin, which is a fitting analogy for this thread.

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So let me get this straight, people are emoraging because you can now buy PLEX with ISK from someone who spent RL money to get yourself a monocle but DIDNT care that for the last few years you could sell PLEX for ISK and use it to buy yourself a pimp faction BS?

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Ze mind, it boggles.

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Originally by: Adunh Slavy

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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So let me get this straight, people are emoraging because you can now buy PLEX with ISK from someone who spent RL money to get yourself a monocle but DIDNT care that for the last few years you could sell PLEX for ISK and use it to buy yourself a pimp faction BS?

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No that is not the issue.

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Originally by: Frogzuk

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nice idea, does one lose the 60 quid pixels on podding ?

that would really sux would it not ...

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Blane, get angry instead of explaining yourself, it totally helps, give a clear reason why its a bad thing

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Originally by: Frogzuk

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nice idea, does one lose the 60 quid pixels on podding ?

that would really sux would it not ...

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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So what exactly is the issue?

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Originally by: Kapitan Kartoffelkopf

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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So what exactly is the issue?

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No one can show what the issue is, you have to see it for yourself.

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Originally by: Bad Messenger

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Why are you mad? Are you selling isk?

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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Edited by: Blane Xero on 27/06/2011 17:12:35

Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Blane, get angry instead of explaining yourself, it totally helps, give a clear reason why its a bad thing

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I explained myself and you failed to understand. It's not my problem if you're an idiot; and I'm certainly not going to hide that fact if you cannot understand something as simple as "If plex have to be consumed to bring an item into the game it cannot truly be bought with only ingame currency and thus is a microtransaction"

Comparing people selling PLEX for ISK pre incarna to people buying PLEX for isk and converting to Aurum post incarna is like comparing a rock to a tree.

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Originally by: Florence Valentine

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Here's an idea.

Anyone you see in the street wearing $1,000 Armani jeans, pour petrol on them and light a match, cus they have jeans that you can't afford.

Lets call it Armanigeddon (see what I did there).

tl;dr --> Monoclegeddon = stupid, spiteful and temporary (shortly the monocle will be replaced with more expensive items, ad infinitum)

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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And what is? In game advantage for $? oh wait anything in NeX store can be bought with $ or ISK.

So what exactly is the issue?

Monocles costing too much ISK? Rise in PLEX price? (which is offset by the high ISK price so demand didnt skyrocket) People being morons?

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Originally by: Adunh Slavy

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Micro-transaction items require virtually no input from the sandbox to create. For example, a ship magically created removes all the potential game play that the production of that ship would have required from the sandbox.

This removal of game play, of value, is taken from the noob miner to the 0.0 miner, to the can flipper to the hot dropper and his 23 SuperCap friends out on a Sunday afternoon drive. Each micro-transaction created item takes a tiny bit from everyone, as more and more MT items are created, those tiny bits add up until the sandbox has no meaning.

Purely cosmetic vanity items, although they could have an impact on certain aspects of the sandbox, they have a far less value at a mechanical level, and thus, have far less mechanical impact on the sandbox.

Although some argue PLEX is a micro-transaction, this is demonstrably false. The ISK for which that PLEX is sold, was collected by someone in the game doing whatever it is they do. Thy put forth an effort and got a reward of ISK. They then trade that ISK for a PLEX. The guy who sold the PLEX now has the ISK, and the other guy has the PLEX. Nothing was added or removed from the sandbox, except the need for one or both of them to break the EULA. CCP profits and the players profit from PLEX.

The only ones who profit from MTs are CCP, and they do so not only at the expense of the $Cash spender, but of everyone in the game that now no longer has the opportunity to participate in the creation of the MT created items.

MTs are theft.

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Originally by: Nikki Sanderson

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Originally by: Florence Valentine

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Here's an idea.

Anyone you see in the street wearing $1,000 Armani jeans, pour petrol on them and light a match, cus they have jeans that you can't afford.

Lets call it Armanigeddon (see what I did there).

tl;dr --> Monoclegeddon = stupid, spiteful and temporary (shortly the monocle will be replaced with more expensive items, ad infinitum)

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Confirming that eve = rl

Also confirming that using color tags makes you not look like an idiot

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Originally by: Haagren

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The idea of monoclegeddon is so awesome, please make it as popular as hulkageddon. But not only for 4 weeks, make it permanent.

But tbh I guess you will be banned, and players who will participate will get temp bans. CCP would never let you ruin their milk mashine.

Also in other games, it would be a gainst ToS, griefing.

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Originally by: Adunh Slavy

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Micro-transaction items require virtually no input from the sandbox to create. For example, a ship magically created removes all the potential game play that the production of that ship would have required from the sandbox.

This removal of game play, of value, is taken from the noob miner to the 0.0 miner, to the can flipper to the hot dropper and his 23 SuperCap friends out on a Sunday afternoon drive. Each micro-transaction created item takes a tiny bit from everyone, as more and more MT items are created, those tiny bits add up until the sandbox has no meaning.

Purely cosmetic vanity items, although they could have an impact on certain aspects of the sandbox, they have a far less value at a mechanical level, and thus, have far less mechanical impact on the sandbox.

Although some argue PLEX is a micro-transaction, this is demonstrably false. The ISK for which that PLEX is sold, was collected by someone in the game doing whatever it is they do. Thy put forth an effort and got a reward of ISK. They then trade that ISK for a PLEX. The guy who sold the PLEX now has the ISK, and the other guy has the PLEX. Nothing was added or removed from the sandbox, except the need for one or both of them to break the EULA. CCP profits and the players profit from PLEX.

The only ones who profit from MTs are CCP, and they do so not only at the expense of the $Cash spender, but of everyone in the game that now no longer has the opportunity to participate in the creation of the MT created items.

MTs are theft.

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Originally by: Marcus Vorenius

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Originally by: Bad Messenger

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Why are you mad? Are you selling isk?

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I'm mad because I don't like being lied to. No, i'm not selling ISK, i'm a 2yo toon who sucks at PVP but likes it too much - do you know how expensive that is?

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Originally by: Florence Valentine

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Originally by: Nikki Sanderson

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Originally by: Florence Valentine

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Here's an idea.

Anyone you see in the street wearing $1,000 Armani jeans, pour petrol on them and light a match, cus they have jeans that you can't afford.

Lets call it Armanigeddon (see what I did there).

tl;dr --> Monoclegeddon = stupid, spiteful and temporary (shortly the monocle will be replaced with more expensive items, ad infinitum)

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Confirming that eve = rl

Also confirming that using color tags makes you not look like an idiot

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It got your attention, and you replied, making my beautiful colours cover more of your screen.

Any yes rl = EVE, especially when spiteful people bring spitefulness to a computer game.

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Originally by: Lusitan Gamara

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And so begins the "Monocle Wars". This will become the stuff of legends!.

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Originally by: Raid'En

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Edited by: Raid''En on 27/06/2011 17:44:56

Originally by: Lusitan Gamara

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And so begins the "Monocle Wars". This will become the stuff of legends!.

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hum seems a bit to easy xD

last news : PL have been hired by the monocle lobby ; they will have be wearing monocles and defend their cause !

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Originally by: Shouldnt Ofdidthat

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I have been lurking the forums since I started playing about a year ago. This will be my only post. I have already decided that my 3 accounts will not be renewed in August. Until they expire I plan to liquidate and spend it all on suicide ganks in high sec. I will befriend new players (will be looking for first day players) and then pod them.

All my other plans seem futile with what has been started with the AUR rollout.

I am doing this because the introduction of new currency in the game will eventually be used to bypass the in-game mechanics and provide a cash leveling ability, thus destroying the concepts here that attracted me in the first place.

Thank you, live long, prosper

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Originally by: The BlackDog

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I'm buying a monocle and forming an exclusive monocle wearers only corp.

This thread is now about corp name suggestions please, thx.

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Originally by: Frogsinspace

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Originally by: Florence Valentine

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Originally by: Nikki Sanderson

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Originally by: Florence Valentine

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Here's an idea.

Anyone you see in the street wearing $1,000 Armani jeans, pour petrol on them and light a match, cus they have jeans that you can't afford.

Lets call it Armanigeddon (see what I did there).

tl;dr --> Monoclegeddon = stupid, spiteful and temporary (shortly the monocle will be replaced with more expensive items, ad infinitum)

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Confirming that eve = rl

Also confirming that using color tags makes you not look like an idiot

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It got your attention, and you replied, making my beautiful colours cover more of your screen.

Any yes rl = EVE, especially when spiteful people bring spitefulness to a computer game.

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You haven't been playing EVE long then have you?

Everyone who buys fancy stuff gets ganked.

I noticed you said EVE was real life, but then said it was a computer game, please enlighten me as to which it is before i got and jump on some turtles and rescue a princess from a gorilla.

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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You didnt explain anything you said

"This is bad"

Without ANY coherent reason why.

Wanna calm down long enough to explain why, otherwise yous just going to be ignored. I'd love to hear an explanation, otherwise you appear to just hate MT for no other reason than because its MT and RL money is consumed and look like another idiot emorager.

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Originally by: Blane Xero

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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You didnt explain anything you said

"This is bad"

Without ANY coherent reason why.

Wanna calm down long enough to explain why, otherwise yous just going to be ignored. I'd love to hear an explanation, otherwise you appear to just hate MT for no other reason than because its MT and RL money is consumed and look like another idiot emorager.

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If you need someone to sit you down, and explain point by point why Microtransactions are ****ing horrible, and are slowly killing off intelligent development then you're even more clueless than I originally gave you credit for.

Yes, I'm purely and entirely against microtransactions. Why? Because time spent developing anything you're charging more money for could be time spent developing content for the game you're already charging a subscription for. And don't give me the age-old "Developers of X don't do Y" because it does not apply to content vs content.

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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And if AUR items only buy you the BPC and has to be built just like a faction ship how does it make an AUR bought item differ from a faction one?

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Its a flawed argument, the ships would be so expensive they wouldnt impact the t1/t2 industry anymore than faction/officer mods affect it. If their price was on par with tournament prizes you'd almost never seen them.

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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Especially considering warfare in EvE is all about ISK efficiency, you lose one AUR bought ship in a fleet the t1 BS fleet you just fought wins.

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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And if AUR items only buy you the BPC and has to be built just like a faction ship how does it make an AUR bought item differ from a faction one?

Its a flawed argument, the ships would be so expensive they wouldnt impact the t1/t2 industry anymore than faction/officer mods affect it. If their price was on par with tournament prizes you'd almost never seen them.


Especially considering warfare in EvE is all about ISK efficiency, you lose one AUR bought ship in a fleet the t1 BS fleet you just fought wins.

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Quote:

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The more I know about humans, the more I love animals.

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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar

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Originally by: Raid'En

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Edited by: Raid''En on 27/06/2011 17:44:56

Originally by: Lusitan Gamara

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And so begins the "Monocle Wars". This will become the stuff of legends!.

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hum seems a bit to easy xD

last news : PL have been hired by the monocle lobby ; they will have be wearing monocles and defend their cause !

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looooool
can't wait to scam some of them
"i'll give you 500 mil if you remove me from the list"
"ok"
"i'm still on the list"
"i know"

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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel

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For those who missed it before, let's go back over this in better detail. The detail is interesting for many.

Team Stonehenge is making the store (Noble Exchange) and is making it in stages. It's fairly simple and straightforward at present but will be getting more sophisticated over time. Right now it can only sell one kind of thing at a time (no bundles) and can only accept one payment at a time (Aurum.)

It can't do trade-in's.
It can't do BPCs.
It can't sell anything that requires a user interface to use.
It can't highlight an item on sale (they will look like the non sale items.)
It can't sort/filter and only show you one kind of item.
But it will get better.

Other folks are making cool ship art. Other folks are making clothing, etc. One of the cool ships was the Ishukone Watch Scorpion battleship which we brought to the CSM. They got to see a little better view of it than just a screen shot posted in a video broadcast and they thought it looked pretty cool. One of them will likely chime in about it or you'll see it in their meeting minutes which I know they are working on.

So I presented our dilemma to them.
EVE players need to be in control of the EVE economy as much as possible. That's not just a marketing claim, that's what we really believe.

And if we sell a battleship in a store, that transgresses this important principle.

"Shall I hold this until the store properly supports BPCs or a Scorpion trade-in? Or shall I start selling it now for 3-4 months and then change how we sell it later?"

The CSM had one big question:
-Is there any difference between the Ishukone Watch Scorpions sold whole and the ones sold in trade in?
(The answer is no.)

They said yes, you want players in control. You want players buying Scorpions from industrialist players. Absolutely. But in this case this is not likely to hurt the EVE economy because initially people will only buy these ships as a collectible and for fun. This will not affect their purchase of Scorpions for actual fleet warfare. They will still buy as many Scorps - this would just be on extra out of their bling money.

So they recommended we go ahead and begin our learning curve and get the fun ship into circulation.

Now, behind the scenes, we will be monitoring to make sure that Scorpion sales don't crash and that the economy does not suffer. If it does, we can turn off the availability of the ship in minutes. We'll just point out that the Ishukone Watch only made a limited number of ships to sell to capsuleers and that supply has now run out.

If we need to go even slower, we can and will.

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Originally by: Unfamed II

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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar

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Originally by: Raid'En

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Edited by: Raid''En on 27/06/2011 17:44:56

Originally by: Lusitan Gamara

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And so begins the "Monocle Wars". This will become the stuff of legends!.

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hum seems a bit to easy xD

last news : PL have been hired by the monocle lobby ; they will have be wearing monocles and defend their cause !

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looooool
can't wait to scam some of them
"i'll give you 500 mil if you remove me from the list"
"ok"
"i'm still on the list"
"i know"

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This explains why I have a monocle and you don't. I am better than you.

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Originally by: ITTigerClawIK

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i look foward to this immensly, why was hulkageddon banned, CCP seemed behind it not to long ago?

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Originally by: Exotic Girl

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Edited by: Exotic Girl on 27/06/2011 18:55:02
Hello,


<-- Would like to point you to right direction...

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Originally by: Mobius Reynolds

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Edited by: Mobius Reynolds on 27/06/2011 18:36:03
Some people want to add vanity customizations to their characters. This has been proven time and time again in various other games...(most notably with hats...). The point of a sandbox game is to play the way you want to. Also...hope people have read this already:

Originally by: CCP Zinfandel

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For those who missed it before, let's go back over this in better detail. The detail is interesting for many.

Team Stonehenge is making the store (Noble Exchange) and is making it in stages. It's fairly simple and straightforward at present but will be getting more sophisticated over time. Right now it can only sell one kind of thing at a time (no bundles) and can only accept one payment at a time (Aurum.)

It can't do trade-in's.
It can't do BPCs.
It can't sell anything that requires a user interface to use.
It can't highlight an item on sale (they will look like the non sale items.)
It can't sort/filter and only show you one kind of item.
But it will get better.

Other folks are making cool ship art. Other folks are making clothing, etc. One of the cool ships was the Ishukone Watch Scorpion battleship which we brought to the CSM. They got to see a little better view of it than just a screen shot posted in a video broadcast and they thought it looked pretty cool. One of them will likely chime in about it or you'll see it in their meeting minutes which I know they are working on.

So I presented our dilemma to them.
EVE players need to be in control of the EVE economy as much as possible. That's not just a marketing claim, that's what we really believe.

And if we sell a battleship in a store, that transgresses this important principle.

"Shall I hold this until the store properly supports BPCs or a Scorpion trade-in? Or shall I start selling it now for 3-4 months and then change how we sell it later?"

The CSM had one big question:
-Is there any difference between the Ishukone Watch Scorpions sold whole and the ones sold in trade in?
(The answer is no.)

They said yes, you want players in control. You want players buying Scorpions from industrialist players. Absolutely. But in this case this is not likely to hurt the EVE economy because initially people will only buy these ships as a collectible and for fun. This will not affect their purchase of Scorpions for actual fleet warfare. They will still buy as many Scorps - this would just be on extra out of their bling money.

So they recommended we go ahead and begin our learning curve and get the fun ship into circulation.

Now, behind the scenes, we will be monitoring to make sure that Scorpion sales don't crash and that the economy does not suffer. If it does, we can turn off the availability of the ship in minutes. We'll just point out that the Ishukone Watch only made a limited number of ships to sell to capsuleers and that supply has now run out.

If we need to go even slower, we can and will.

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Link

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Originally by: Titus Phook

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They banned Helicity Boson (founder of hulkageddon)for telling a CCP dev that death by fire was too slow, after the dev in question said in an internal communication that they were not saying anything because the community would burn them at the stake.

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Originally by: Florence Valentine

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Originally by: Nikki Sanderson

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Originally by: Florence Valentine

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Here's an idea.

Anyone you see in the street wearing $1,000 Armani jeans, pour petrol on them and light a match, cus they have jeans that you can't afford.

Lets call it Armanigeddon (see what I did there).

tl;dr --> Monoclegeddon = stupid, spiteful and temporary (shortly the monocle will be replaced with more expensive items, ad infinitum)

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Confirming that eve = rl

Also confirming that using color tags makes you not look like an idiot

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It got your attention, and you replied, making my beautiful colours cover more of your screen.

Any yes rl = EVE, especially when spiteful people bring spitefulness to a computer game.

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Originally by: TenTon Tommie

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I'll commit to the following prizes:

100M isk
1 gisti b small shield booster
1 RF Firetail

If this gains momentum, I'll consider donating 1 Macherial and 1 Plex to boot.

TTT

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Originally by: Daelorn

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I'm down.

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Originally by: Florence Valentine

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Here's an idea.

Anyone you see in the street wearing $1,000 Armani jeans, pour petrol on them and light a match, cus they have jeans that you can't afford.

Lets call it Armanigeddon (see what I did there).

tl;dr --> Monoclegeddon = stupid, spiteful and temporary (shortly the monocle will be replaced with more expensive items, ad infinitum)

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Originally by: DurrHurrDurr

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Protip, if you get podded with the monocle on you get a new one when your medical clone is restored.

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Originally by: DurrHurrDurr

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Protip, if you get podded with the monocle on you get a new one when your medical clone is restored.

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Originally by: DurrHurrDurr

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Protip, if you get podded with the monocle on you get a new one when your medical clone is restored.

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Originally by: Kale Pershaw

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Originally by: DurrHurrDurr

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Protip, if you get podded with the monocle on you get a new one when your medical clone is restored.

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WOOT! Endless supply of targets!

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Quote:

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You misunderstand me.

If RL people bring their baggage from RL into the game, then that RL baggage exists in the game too.

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But of course the converse can be true. I wouldn't set fire to someone cus they are wearing clothees I cannot afford myself, but why do I feel that it is ok to do the same in a game. Oh but wait, "it's only a game" I hear you say - sure, but these arn't NPC your offending, they are real people. But it's ok because I can act like an idiot because the game gives me annoyminity.

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It is said that the things you say and do while under the influence of alcohol reveals your true beliefs. Well I would say the same of people who hide behind their avatars, and it's pretty ugly.

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Why the mini rant? Well I think that some of the angst and abuse hurled at CCP has been appalling, and the idea of monoclegeddon is just an expression of that bad feeling. And it is pretty obvious that if we weren't all hiding behind the anoyminity of an avatar, then we wouldn't be behaving like this. It is really two faced and cowardly.

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Originally by: EnderCapitalG

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I refuse to believe that you guys will leave highsec to try and kill most of us that have monocles.

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Originally by: Saint Lazarus

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You didnt explain anything you said

"This is bad"

Without ANY coherent reason why.

Wanna calm down long enough to explain why [blah blah]

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Originally by: The Illusive Man

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Sadly, this is exactly what CCP wants us to do...
You are now accepting this vanity stuff (and whatever comes next [p2w]),
as part of the game.
Sad.

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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar

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Ladys and gentlemen,

the list of monocles start to fill: Monoclegeddon

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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar

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Originally by: The Illusive Man

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Sadly, this is exactly what CCP wants us to do...
You are now accepting this vanity stuff (and whatever comes next [p2w]),
as part of the game.
Sad.

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Maybe, but they do not expect us to make the people who are buying that vanity bull**** getting the hardest time in eve imaginable.

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Originally by: Shouldnt Ofdidthat

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I have been lurking the forums since I started playing about a year ago. This will be my only post. I have already decided that my 3 accounts will not be renewed in August. Until they expire I plan to liquidate and spend it all on suicide ganks in high sec. I will befriend new players (will be looking for first day players) and then pod them.

All my other plans seem futile with what has been started with the AUR rollout.

I am doing this because the introduction of new currency in the game will eventually be used to bypass the in-game mechanics and provide a cash leveling ability, thus destroying the concepts here that attracted me in the first place.

Thank you, live long, prosper

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Originally by: Jasdemi

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Edited by: Jasdemi on 27/06/2011 22:06:13
Long live Monocle Overlords!

Poor players nowadays ...

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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar

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Originally by: The Illusive Man

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Sadly, this is exactly what CCP wants us to do...
You are now accepting this vanity stuff (and whatever comes next [p2w]),
as part of the game.
Sad.

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Maybe, but they do not expect us to make the people who are buying that vanity bull**** getting the hardest time in eve imaginable.

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Originally by: The Illusive Man

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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar

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Originally by: The Illusive Man

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Sadly, this is exactly what CCP wants us to do...
You are now accepting this vanity stuff (and whatever comes next [p2w]),
as part of the game.
Sad.

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Maybe, but they do not expect us to make the people who are buying that vanity bull**** getting the hardest time in eve imaginable.

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Maybe not yet, but if this idea succeeds, the day will come where only people searching for pvp will buy that monocle.
Thats not "making them get the hardest time in eve imaginable". Thats making them a favour
Anyway, good luck on your hunts

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Originally by: Haunting Widow

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I don't care about the monocles, but the first time I see a NEx bought ship or module.. You can bet it's worth I'll be hunting that ship down regardless of location.

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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar

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Originally by: Haunting Widow

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I don't care about the monocles, but the first time I see a NEx bought ship or module.. You can bet it's worth I'll be hunting that ship down regardless of location.

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do you want to marry me? xD

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Originally by: luZk

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People with monocles, we should form a council, and serve as advicers to the CSMs. Im sure fine gentelmen like ourselves can put alliances and politics behind us and serve a real purpose.

What do you think?

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Originally by: luZk

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People with monocles, we should form a council, and serve as advicers to the CSMs. Im sure fine gentelmen like ourselves can put alliances and politics behind us and serve a real purpose.

What do you think?

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Originally by: The Illusive Man

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Sadly, this is exactly what CCP wants us to do...
You are now accepting this vanity stuff (and whatever comes next [p2w]),
as part of the game.
Sad.

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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar

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i can see 50 man destroyer fleets

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Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen

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Originally by: luZk

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People with monocles, we should form a council, and serve as advicers to the CSMs. Im sure fine gentelmen like ourselves can put alliances and politics behind us and serve a real purpose.

What do you think?

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/emote puts on wizard hat

I think that you sir, along with your Long-limb-Roe-eating posh friends, are a traitor to the majority of citizens in New Eden! By supporting the "Noble" Exchange you are encouraging the capitalistic **** of everyday capsuleers who oppose Concord's newest marketplace.

I wholeheartedly support this initiative. Lets see these bastards hunted down in every corner of the galaxy, for the betterment of New Eden's future, which currently hangs in the balance between the will of the elected CSM, and the scumbags at Concord who simply want to get their filthy hands on our isk and AUR any shameless way they can!

I hope you fry in a cloning accident. We won't shed any tears.

/emote takes off wizard hat

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Originally by: Hans Jagerblitzen

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Originally by: luZk

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People with monocles, we should form a council, and serve as advicers to the CSMs. Im sure fine gentelmen like ourselves can put alliances and politics behind us and serve a real purpose.

What do you think?

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/emote puts on wizard hat

I think that you sir, along with your Long-limb-Roe-eating posh friends, are a traitor to the majority of citizens in New Eden! By supporting the "Noble" Exchange you are encouraging the capitalistic **** of everyday capsuleers who oppose Concord's newest marketplace.

I wholeheartedly support this initiative. Lets see these bastards hunted down in every corner of the galaxy, for the betterment of New Eden's future, which currently hangs in the balance between the will of the elected CSM, and the scumbags at Concord who simply want to get their filthy hands on our isk and AUR any shameless way they can!

I hope you fry in a cloning accident. We won't shed any tears.

/emote takes off wizard hat

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Originally by: Terminal Insanity

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Edited by: Terminal Insanity on 27/06/2011 22:41:10

Originally by: The Illusive Man

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Sadly, this is exactly what CCP wants us to do...
You are now accepting this vanity stuff (and whatever comes next [p2w]),
as part of the game.
Sad.

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explain what exactly is wrong with vanity items? It allows players to (pointlessly) enhance their characters, while providing CCP with money to continue developing this game we all play. If you dont want to take part in it, Dont click the NeX button and you'll never have to worry about monocles again.

You do realize you're basically complaining that the kid across the street has a cooler paintjob on his bike. Right?

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Originally by: Constantine Kusoni

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I must say, this is starting to seem real fun.. A classic "rich kids" vs "poor kids" fight.
If previously I was against MT at all, then now I think I am for MT (although ONLY with vanity items), even if I know that I will never ever buy anything for AUR. With PvP being such an important part of EVE, ganging up on people with monocles is not the stupidest thing over which to pod a pilot. :) Soon there will probably be people who will buy monocles just to get on the monoclegeddon list :) more hate against different people and more loyalty against similar people will definitely make for a more fun game, no matter what the differences between those groups would be.

P.S. one thing I haven't really understood - if you are wearing a monocle and get killed, do you drop the monocle as loot? Do you lose it? If not, that really sucks, because an item (unless it's free, like the standard clothes) should be an item, regardless whether bought with ISK, AUR or (while violating the EULA) real money trading. Death in EVE has always had quite severe punishments (loss of ship, items, implants, or SP if clone is not updated) and should be kept that way. As we know, PLEX, which is more or less a real money item, can be lost or scammed like any other item. Therefor it would make sense - if you don't want to risk your monocle, keep it in the safety of a station.

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Originally by: Constantine Kusoni

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I must say, this is starting to seem real fun.. A classic "rich kids" vs "poor kids" fight.
If previously I was against MT at all, then now I think I am for MT (although ONLY with vanity items), even if I know that I will never ever buy anything for AUR. With PvP being such an important part of EVE, ganging up on people with monocles is not the stupidest thing over which to pod a pilot. :) Soon there will probably be people who will buy monocles just to get on the monoclegeddon list :) more hate against different people and more loyalty against similar people will definitely make for a more fun game, no matter what the differences between those groups would be.

P.S. one thing I haven't really understood - if you are wearing a monocle and get killed, do you drop the monocle as loot? Do you lose it? If not, that really sucks, because an item (unless it's free, like the standard clothes) should be an item, regardless whether bought with ISK, AUR or (while violating the EULA) real money trading. Death in EVE has always had quite severe punishments (loss of ship, items, implants, or SP if clone is not updated) and should be kept that way. As we know, PLEX, which is more or less a real money item, can be lost or scammed like any other item. Therefor it would make sense - if you don't want to risk your monocle, keep it in the safety of a station.

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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar

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If they loose it, i'm going to suicide gank with a carrier!!! But i do not think so. :-(

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Originally by: Juno Valchelza

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I really don't get it.

You have one side claiming that they are upset because of these ridiculous prices for things from the NeX store (such as the monocles). CCP shouldn't be selling such silly things.

Yet you have another side screaming that it's NOT ABOUT THE MONOCLES! It's about the future use of the NeX store for Micro-transactions!

This protest is pretty sad...

Looking back. I was upset of the out come of the tourney as it made the CCP Eve Alliance Tournament a JOKE to anyone viewing it (especially for the first time).

Then we get this NeX/AUR/MT/monocle issue. This is just sad to see these posts.

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Originally by: Daelorn

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I'm down.

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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar

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I would like to open the hunt for monocles and such, as replacement for hulkageddon as it has been banned with his organizer.

OFFICIALL MONOCLEGEDDON SITE UNDER CONSTRUCTION

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Originally by: ButterNut

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Edited by: ButterNut on 28/06/2011 01:16:04
Edited by: ButterNut on 28/06/2011 01:15:14
Edited by: ButterNut on 28/06/2011 01:13:07


Hi from test alliance.

PS: this is a pic of OP pulled using our 1337 google skills.

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Originally by: ButterNut

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wait we can get banned for using google?

you had your name on the whois and we didn't think you would get trolled.

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Originally by: Kristina Vanszar

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Originally by: ButterNut

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wait we can get banned for using google?

you had your name on the whois and we didn't think you would get trolled.

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Dude, posting pictures of my employees here is a nogo, sorry.
But all jokes aside, i've reported that.

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Originally by: ButterNut

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edit: It sucks I can't report you for stupidity.

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Originally by: Rover Vitesse

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I would like you to add Kunniz from Finfleet to your list.

While you're at it you can put me on as well, I own three monocles.

We live in Tenal, so just come and visit us and feel free to pod us.

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Originally by: Terminal Insanity

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errr, hulkageddon was banned? o_O My google skills are not helping me on this one... is it true?

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Originally by: ITTigerClawIK

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i look foward to this immensly, why was hulkageddon banned, CCP seemed behind it not to long ago?

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