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Mr Mickey
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Posted - 2011.06.27 14:12:00 -
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enough said
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Kristina Vanszar
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.06.27 14:13:00 -
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If not see my signature
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Mintoko
Gallente Taedium In Perpetuam
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Posted - 2011.06.27 14:19:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Mickey enough said
The AUR store is not the problem. What CCP might like to sell in the store IS the problem.
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Daelorn
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Posted - 2011.06.27 14:21:00 -
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Originally by: Mintoko
Originally by: Mr Mickey enough said
The AUR store is not the problem. What CCP might like to sell in the store IS the problem.
I still would rather have the whole store gone, but I don't see that happening.
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vasuul
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Posted - 2011.06.27 14:24:00 -
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+1 It has no business in this game you want to sell clothes or doodads put em on the market or in the lp store
ISK is our currency long live ISK
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Silas Cooper
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Posted - 2011.06.27 14:30:00 -
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The store is fine, the items in the store are fine (albeit the pricing suggests they take us for idiots with the 3600 aurum crap) it'll just take some time to get more stuff in. What IS isn't the problem. What CAN be is what worries us, especially as they've been using all kinds of evasion techniques to avoid an upfront answer.
For the people not up to speed (or too thick) they have NOT outright abolished pay2win items, and after several blogs of dancing around the subject that makes it more suspect.
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Jax Mones
Barr Heavy Industries STR8NGE BREW
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Posted - 2011.06.27 14:38:00 -
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there shall be no golden ammo, so just calm the **** down and eat some cookies.
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Ridickulo
Minmatar Tiger-Shrimp Sons of EvE Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.27 14:41:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Mickey enough said
Why? is it hurting you?
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Silas Cooper
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Posted - 2011.06.27 15:05:00 -
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Originally by: Jax Mones there shall be no golden ammo, so just calm the **** down and eat some cookies.
Attribute increasers, x aurum/month (they introduced those a while back for the boxed EVE, remember) boosters for aurum extra implants for aurum personal manufacturing/research slots for aurum/month increased cargoroom on any ship your char flies, x aurum/month increased probing strength, sensor strength, scan res on any ship your char flies, x aurum/month
Just a few I just came up with and none of these are "gold ammo", but they ARE non-vanity or "pay2win". And as you must expect CCP to select their wording carefully (3rd blog anyway) and they STILL don't state "no non-vanity in the MT" but rather use the "gold ammo" thing, that leaves it open to interpretation and gives them a back door would they want one.
You seem awfully trusting, perhaps I'm wrong but until proven otherwise (or given a clear answer) then yes I'll pick apart CCP's wording and expect the worst.
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Atsair Raholan
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Posted - 2011.06.27 15:08:00 -
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If it does turn out that the NEX is used entirely for vanity items (and I guess only the future will show whether or not that is the case), why exactly does it matter if it's in the game? People seem to act as though it's the worst thing in the world when a business seeks out new opportunities to generate revenue.
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Jax Mones
Barr Heavy Industries STR8NGE BREW
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Posted - 2011.06.27 15:12:00 -
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Originally by: Silas Cooper
Originally by: Jax Mones there shall be no golden ammo, so just calm the **** down and eat some cookies.
Attribute increasers, x aurum/month (they introduced those a while back for the boxed EVE, remember) boosters for aurum (Where did you read this) extra implants for aurum (Where did you read this) personal manufacturing/research slots for aurum/month (Where did you read this) increased cargoroom on any ship your char flies, x aurum/month (Where did you read this) increased probing strength, sensor strength, scan res on any ship your char flies, x aurum/month (Where did you read this)
Just a few I just came up with and none of these are "gold ammo", but they ARE non-vanity or "pay2win". And as you must expect CCP to select their wording carefully (3rd blog anyway) and they STILL don't state "no non-vanity in the MT" but rather use the "gold ammo" thing, that leaves it open to interpretation and gives them a back door would they want one.
You seem awfully trusting, perhaps I'm wrong but until proven otherwise (or given a clear answer) then yes I'll pick apart CCP's wording and expect the worst.
Honestly, you just assume ****. They'll add a Ishukone scorpion(and more later) that will CONSUME A REGULAR scorp dosent bypass the market one bit
There will be a proper response after the CSM meeting
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Tugrath Akers
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Posted - 2011.06.27 15:13:00 -
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I just plan on not opening the store in game.
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Silas Cooper
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Posted - 2011.06.27 15:16:00 -
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Which part of Quote: Just a few I just came up with and none of these are "gold ammo"
didn't you get?
Unless they give us a clear answer I must assume the answer they did give us is vague on purpose, because if you COULD give that clear answer it would have avoided the whole **** storm they've been in the last few days. So, logically, they have opted to NOT use that clear answer which, logically, means they would be lying if they did.
QED; they want non-vanity items in NEX, I realise that using logic can be difficult for some people.
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Alejan Gerakh
Minmatar Clan Hyena
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Posted - 2011.06.27 16:20:00 -
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Originally by: vasuul +1 It has no business in this game you want to sell clothes or doodads put em on the market or in the lp store
ISK is our currency long live ISK
He who controls the ISK controls the universe! ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me."
Chief Engineering Officer - got the tools to fix your problems.
The new Maelstrom: Say hello to my little Dread. |
Adunh Slavy
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Posted - 2011.06.27 16:22:00 -
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CCP has an great opportunity to do player created content in an innovative and also profitable way, and they ****ed it all straight to hell.
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ We'll watch what you do not what you say.
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Alejan Gerakh
Minmatar Clan Hyena
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Posted - 2011.06.27 16:30:00 -
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Originally by: Silas Cooper Which part of Quote: Just a few I just came up with and none of these are "gold ammo"
didn't you get?
Unless they give us a clear answer I must assume the answer they did give us is vague on purpose, because if you COULD give that clear answer it would have avoided the whole **** storm they've been in the last few days. So, logically, they have opted to NOT use that clear answer which, logically, means they would be lying if they did.
QED; they want non-vanity items in NEX, I realise that using logic can be difficult for some people.
In case you haven't been paying attention, "gold ammo" is the buzz-word that at least some parts of the CSM have been using, if not all of them. So Zulu was just using the term back at us, thinking we all knew what he meant. Yes, it sucked and wasn't to the point. Yes, it would be nice to get him to say it outright finally... but he also said they will refrain from further comments DUE TO THE VOLATILITY.
This is because the hard-line protesters are still putting out a scary 'rabid dog' vibe from the perspective of the devs. If you want to blame anyone for the lack of quick responses, it's your own raving selves.
Not to say you don't have valid fears- I, and many others who are trying to reason with you, actually share your fears about the NEX non-vanity issue. But biting people's heads off doesn't get you anywhere but alienation. ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me."
Chief Engineering Officer - got the tools to fix your problems.
The new Maelstrom: Say hello to my little Dread. |
Theocrates
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Posted - 2011.06.27 16:32:00 -
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I like the store, I like the idea of the store, I like hte fact that it makes you crazy even better.
***By coffee alone I set my mind in motion, by the beans of Java thoughts acquire speed, the hands acquire shaking, the shaking becomes a warning, by coffee alone I set my mind in motion.*** |
Silas Cooper
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Posted - 2011.06.27 16:42:00 -
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Originally by: Alejan Gerakh In case you haven't been paying attention, "gold ammo" is the buzz-word that at least some parts of the CSM have been using, if not all of them. So Zulu was just using the term back at us, thinking we all knew what he meant. Yes, it sucked and wasn't to the point. Yes, it would be nice to get him to say it outright finally... but he also said they will refrain from further comments DUE TO THE VOLATILITY.
This is because the hard-line protesters are still putting out a scary 'rabid dog' vibe from the perspective of the devs. If you want to blame anyone for the lack of quick responses, it's your own raving selves.
Not to say you don't have valid fears- I, and many others who are trying to reason with you, actually share your fears about the NEX non-vanity issue. But biting people's heads off doesn't get you anywhere but alienation.
That is one explanation, but until proven otherwise I'll expect them to do the evasion thing. And even if it turns out to be true then it's a good warning for CCP to really think twice if their ideas would "change" somewhere in the future. Till they had the CSM meeting and we've seen the reactions+minutes I'll agree to a cease fire.
Doesn't mean I won't react to the "nono all is fine, move along" stuff.
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RC Denton
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Posted - 2011.06.27 16:47:00 -
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Not going to happen because the AUR store is going to be store that the dusties use for their P2W stuff. I really doubt that any p2w stuff will show up on the internet spaceship side. But they've pretty much said they're implementing a p2w model for Dust.
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LuNaRiAn SeRpEnT
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Posted - 2011.06.27 16:50:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Mickey enough said
Enough said? You think that you can just bark out commands and people need to listen? You can't come up with one single example of how this has affected your ability to play the same game you have always played up until this point. You're just an idiot on a bandwagon ride full of other idiots.
You don't have the slightest idea what it even is that you are whining about.
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Keitoshi Yamada
Caldari Sephray Industries Serenitas Solutus
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Posted - 2011.06.27 16:59:00 -
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Umm...
They said strictly and specifically that AURUM is a "VAnity-Only" currency. Anyone who is thinking otherwise is a ****** and an imbecile.
A game as economically centric as EVE would never put game mechanics in a $$$ store, that's just stupid.
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Mintoko
Gallente Taedium In Perpetuam
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:54:00 -
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Originally by: Keitoshi Yamada Umm...
They said strictly and specifically that AURUM is a "VAnity-Only" currency. Anyone who is thinking otherwise is a ****** and an imbecile.
A game as economically centric as EVE would never put game mechanics in a $$$ store, that's just stupid.
Where did they say this? Produce the quote please.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2011.06.28 07:58:00 -
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Originally by: Mr Mickey enough said
Thread spamming to try and be one of the cool kids doesn't work.
You're still an idiot.
Mr Epeen
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Valei Khurelem
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Posted - 2011.06.28 08:13:00 -
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Originally by: Ri****ulo
Originally by: Mr Mickey enough said
Why? is it hurting you?
It touched me in a weird place!
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