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slip66	Posted - 2005.02.23 05:52:00 - [61] Originally by: The Monk Edited by: The Monk on 21/02/2005 23:56:55 I think that Zel0ta clone, alt thing has lost the plot why doesnt he just end himself ffs.... Oh and on a side note guys the legendary monk is leaving eve.... maybe I will see some of you in the not so distant future pssst (WoW)... :( gl fun fighting with you dude
Charlena	Posted - 2005.02.23 11:11:00 - [62] Originally by: TIvian Edited by: TIvian on 23/02/2005 05:46:04 Originally by: Lallante Edited by: Lallante on 23/02/2005 00:27:15 Edit: removed I can't be bothered with this Tivian, the awesome force of your logic defeats me as usual... It's really not that hard to do! And, as always you refuse to see or just don't get the point. I never said I contributed more then you. Just that your complaints and non stop whining were conter-productive. And in the end I and others blame you for the contribution of the demise of CA.....Well your big mouth anyway. I though it was all Foyles fault? Well, actually Foyle was Xirts Jew.
TyPower	Posted - 2005.02.23 15:01:00 - [63] There's no need for bad blood here. The way I see it CA had the best Pvpers in the game and when we split we went our seperate ways. VOTF and crew went and destroyed NORAD and JQA and then got bored with no one to fight. Shinra went and helped bring FA to its knees and now has gotten bored with no one good to fight. So what to do? Only thing left is to fight each other. Its a game and if this is the only way we can find decent targets then so be it. It'll sure be a blast. Funny thing will be that as you listen to your respective fleet commanders, you'll know instinctively what the opposing commander is saying to his fleet since you've fought under both. Should be interesting. And battles will be tight. Can't wait for Friday night. And take it easy on the safespots guys
D'argo	Posted - 2005.02.23 16:43:00 - [64] Yes, it should be good fun. I've been bored of late and have resorted to npcing May the battles be many and filled with blood and gore
TIvian	Posted - 2005.02.23 21:09:00 - [65] Edited by: TIvian on 23/02/2005 21:09:07 Originally by: Charlena Originally by: TIvian Edited by: TIvian on 23/02/2005 05:46:04 Originally by: Lallante Edited by: Lallante on 23/02/2005 00:27:15 Edit: removed I can't be bothered with this Tivian, the awesome force of your logic defeats me as usual... It's really not that hard to do! And, as always you refuse to see or just don't get the point. I never said I contributed more then you. Just that your complaints and non stop whining were conter-productive. And in the end I and others blame you for the contribution of the demise of CA.....Well your big mouth anyway. I though it was all Foyles fault? Well, actually Foyle was Xirts Jew. Foyle was used. Lallante's big mouth started the crap almost from the start. 1. Lallante 2. Saladin 3. Lord Draco 4. Mistress D'Malice These are the people who whined and cryed when the game wasn't played their way. And when CA wasn't run the way they wanted it. If they had kept their mouths shut and moved on or left, CA would still be around. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!!
Chowdown	Posted - 2005.02.23 21:20:00 - [66] Edited by: Chowdown on 23/02/2005 21:25:48 EDIT: wrong thread: New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!!
Nebba Kenezzer	Posted - 2005.02.23 22:53:00 - [67] Originally by: TIvian Foyle was used. Lallante's big mouth started the crap almost from the start. 1. Lallante 2. Saladin 3. Lord Draco 4. Mistress D'Malice These are the people who whined and cryed when the game wasn't played their way. And when CA wasn't run the way they wanted it. If they had kept their mouths shut and moved on or left, CA would still be around. What you fail to realize is that the idiots of CA (VOTF, AOI) were vastly outnumbered by those who disagreed with them or didn't care. By the way, Tiv, who was it that left CA first and began the breakdown? Give me a break, dude. Anti-Semitism in the Arab Media
TIvian	Posted - 2005.02.24 00:31:00 - [68] Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Originally by: TIvian Foyle was used. Lallante's big mouth started the crap almost from the start. 1. Lallante 2. Saladin 3. Lord Draco 4. Mistress D'Malice These are the people who whined and cryed when the game wasn't played their way. And when CA wasn't run the way they wanted it. If they had kept their mouths shut and moved on or left, CA would still be around. What you fail to realize is that the idiots of CA (VOTF, AOI) were vastly outnumbered by those who disagreed with them or didn't care. By the way, Tiv, who was it that left CA first and began the breakdown? Give me a break, dude. !!!ROFLOL!!! OH NICE! So its my fault? FFS!!! how can one person bring the end of an alliance? Yeah I left. I saw the writing on the wall. I knew what was going to happen. So IF and thats a BIG IF I caused the break down then I owe everyone that was in CA an apology. I just couldn't take the break down of unity....the lack of trust. And all the internal strife. I could no longer defend the CA anymore when I felt that there was no alliance to defend. CA was an alliance in name only....none of the corporations acted like they wanted help each other anymore. So I am Sorry if its my fault. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!!
Nebba Kenezzer	Posted - 2005.02.24 00:34:00 - [69] Ha, what a coincidence. I was actually referring to VOTF, sorry I wasn't so blatant. I always thought BOS were great guys. Anti-Semitism in the Arab Media
Chowdown	Posted - 2005.02.24 00:46:00 - [70] Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Ha, what a coincidence. I was actually referring to VOTF, sorry I wasn't so blatant. I always thought BOS were great guys. Neb its crossed wires, what you are refering to are VOTF leaving first, what tiv thought you meant is the fact he left before that. In either case its a ******* boring topic. New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!!
Nebba Kenezzer	Posted - 2005.02.24 00:50:00 - [71] Originally by: Chowdown Originally by: Nebba Kenezzer Ha, what a coincidence. I was actually referring to VOTF, sorry I wasn't so blatant. I always thought BOS were great guys. Neb its crossed wires, what you are refering to are VOTF leaving first, what tiv thought you meant is the fact he left before that. In either case its a ******* boring topic. Who died and made you Einstein? Anti-Semitism in the Arab Media
Lallante	Posted - 2005.02.24 00:57:00 - [72] Edited by: Lallante on 24/02/2005 14:03:20 Quote: I just couldn't take the break down of unity....the lack of trust. Scapegoating caused the problem, compounded by undermining of council. Neither of those factors can be attributed to me, LD or any of the others you listed Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
Pa1nbringr	Posted - 2005.02.24 01:04:00 - [73] heh when xirt was the main man of ca it was alot better ---------------------- Fedaykin Naib > eh this is boring, think im going to go choke one out Pa1nbringr > sick Fedaykin Naib > lol
Chowdown	Posted - 2005.02.24 01:06:00 - [74] Yes he declared war on the entire of eve, NPCd and mined till they were one jump out of hlw, and when it got to hot, buggered off to WoW. New Shinra Kill system, please be patient were still ironing out the finer points!!
Lallante	Posted - 2005.02.24 01:08:00 - [75] No dude, CA rocked when Leyla called the shots, When Leyla and Sarkos quit it went downhill, with the advent of the new stronger council making it better again. It then went downhill as council was undermined. Lall - THE Vocal Minority - ShinRa
TIvian	Posted - 2005.02.24 01:33:00 - [76] Yep....Standard Shinra party line. I didn't always agree with Xirtam. Its just plain simple you guys didn't like him...never did. BUT none of you had the 8alls to do what Xirt did. Except shoot your mouths off and whine and complain. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!!
WildHope	Posted - 2005.02.24 02:06:00 - [77] Edited by: WildHope on 24/02/2005 02:08:24 Originally by: TIvian Yep....Standard Shinra party line. I didn't always agree with Xirtam. Its just plain simple you guys didn't like him...never did. BUT none of you had the 8alls to do what Xirt did. Except shoot your mouths off and whine and complain. You're obviously entitled to your point of view Tiv, though frankly it surprises me. You're correct in some respects, I and many intelligent members of my corp didn't like Xirtam's attitude. He assumed with the departure of Leyla and Sarkos that CA was HIS alliance. With all due respect, Xirt has many good qualities, but political leader is not one of them. Mistakes were made. I won't pretend to be impartial enough to apportion blame, though I obviously have personal opinions. I wonder what you consider Xirt to have done that took 8alls? BOS, Supremacy and REIGN are some of the best corps this game has seen. I don;t think you do your corpmates justice by getting embroiled in the over-boiled arguments between Shinra, and Vengance of the Overated Ego (and the members of his corp whom I genuinely respect). Wildhope ShinRa Curse Alliance (may it last 1000 generations)
Val Amon	Posted - 2005.02.24 02:14:00 - [78] Tivian lets start our own thread where we get mad at each other and stuff so we have something to do during work. 49 Hours for Sat. Mon. Tue. Wed. this week so far. Keep the long threads coming guys I run out of stuff to read sometime around noon usually. _ _ How many pilots does it take to wire a Flux Capacitor? 3, 1 to wire it and 2 to talk about how the old one was better.
FatBalls	Posted - 2005.02.24 03:43:00 - [79] This is complete crap. Quote: Was the breakdown in trust because: a) Every other CEO bar VOTF, AOI and about 4 others opposed dictatorial style leadership by someone who really has no clue. b) VOTF started unjustified rumours without any proof or even evidence whatsoever that Foyle was stealing from the alliance fund (because she opposed Xirtam) and then implicated Shinra and others again, simply because we disagreed. c) Because Xirtam had engineered wars with just about everyone using his "amazing intel", and then took his corp to another game leaving Shinra and Supremacy to pick up the pieces. d) Because VOTF used every opportunity it could to undermine councils decisions, ie the ROME affair, Aneu Affair etc etc etc. Or finally was it your option e) Because Lallante, Lord Draco, Saladin, Mistress de Malice, Chowdown, USS Omaha, Jaabaa, Drilla, and all the other CEOs were creating "discontent" by not agreeing with the Fark Lords every whim. Clearly You have your oppinion, but for us its clear CA was doomed the second it split into two camps: One that supported the Council and one that said the council was "******* stupid" (to quote a TS recording) Is what you are saying is true then why is Curse only 2 strong ? I left Curse VOTF left Curse so why are you all not runnin smoothly with your new perfect council ? It seems that on the side of Imperium we have the majority with us and it is you Lallante that runs with the enemies of the Curse of old... You trying to blame the breakup on xirtam is out of line and complete crap... As far as Foyle is concerned ffs man everyone in eve knows she is a pos thief and deserves no further mention in game or out.
Nebba Kenezzer	Posted - 2005.02.24 03:46:00 - [80] Originally by: FatBalls It seems that on the side of Imperium we have the majority with us and it is you Lallante that runs with the enemies of the Curse of old... You trying to blame the breakup on xirtam is out of line and complete crap... Careful what you say, PhatBalls. You may eat those words. Anti-Semitism in the Arab Media
Charlena	Posted - 2005.02.24 03:48:00 - [81] Originally by: FatBalls As far as Foyle is concerned ffs man everyone in eve knows she is a pos thief and deserves no further mention in game or out. The only one that believes this is those that drink the (self appointed) d0rk l0rd's kool aid. Why don't you ask those who are not in thein the votf or shinra camps if they think foyle stole stuff.
FatBalls	Posted - 2005.02.24 07:10:00 - [82] Foyle stole directly form me so I need not ask anyone as I know first hand. Quote: Careful what you say, PhatBalls. You may eat those words. Eat what words ? I made a statment that was factual nothing more nothing less. I think is is absurd to blame xirt for the breakup of Curse alliance.. It was a great alliance the first six months I was in it and then it started going down hill when people started self appointing and taking over things that they had no business taking over. I mean we had a curse fund that never once benefited half of the people who supplied it. We had people taking over certain area's that ran fine before they decided it needed to be fixed. We had corps working together without resentment then all the sudden no one wanted to speak to so and so... I am not putting blame on anyone in particular as the majority obviously voted for it all and that was the demise of Curse. If it is not broke dont fix it and lets face it Curse was not broken we wtf pwned back in the day of Alpha team and everyone actually selling things to our own members as oppsoed to all the greedy *****s who just had to have more...
TIvian	Posted - 2005.02.24 08:03:00 - [83] Edited by: TIvian on 24/02/2005 08:05:34 Originally by: WildHope Edited by: WildHope on 24/02/2005 02:08:24 Originally by: TIvian Yep....Standard Shinra party line. I didn't always agree with Xirtam. Its just plain simple you guys didn't like him...never did. BUT none of you had the 8alls to do what Xirt did. Except shoot your mouths off and whine and complain. You're obviously entitled to your point of view Tiv, though frankly it surprises me. You're correct in some respects, I and many intelligent members of my corp didn't like Xirtam's attitude. He assumed with the departure of Leyla and Sarkos that CA was HIS alliance. With all due respect, Xirt has many good qualities, but political leader is not one of them. Mistakes were made. I won't pretend to be impartial enough to apportion blame, though I obviously have personal opinions. I wonder what you consider Xirt to have done that took 8alls? BOS, Supremacy and REIGN are some of the best corps this game has seen. I don;t think you do your corpmates justice by getting embroiled in the over-boiled arguments between Shinra, and Vengance of the Overated Ego (and the members of his corp whom I genuinely respect). Good points Wild. And your right....again I let my temper get the best of me. I am tired of friends ending up on the other end of my guns. and really don't want to do this crap anymore. I was refering to the every day BS that comes with running the alliance. all the convo's all the logistics all the stuff that no one really wanted to do. all the policys an such. I am close to Xirt and yeah he has helped me through some RL issues so maybe I am one sided....but I like the way things where in Curse with him running the show....it was the most fun I have ever had playing a game. I also gave him intel on things that had previously happend...when some corps decided to turn against us.....My intel that I gave Xirt was right on the money....I saw things no one else did. SO I have allot of love and respect for all of shinra minus 1. and I have allot of love for VOTF for obivious reasons if you look at my employment history in game. And so you can see why it pains me the most. I have sat here with my eyes closed saying "this can't be happening" and it is. Not to mention the possibility of Shinra flying with Blakc Omega's most hated enemys. That puts us in a f**ked position if its true. (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!!
The Sin	Posted - 2005.02.24 13:51:00 - [84] Originally by: Rod Blaine Just shoot eachother, die, and get it over with. wise words ------------------------------------- [INSERT_WITTY_SIG_HERE]
Damo Pendragon	Posted - 2005.02.24 14:38:00 - [85] Originally by: TIvian Foyle was used. Lallante's big mouth started the crap almost from the start. 1. Lallante 2. Saladin 3. Lord Draco 4. Mistress D'Malice These are the people who whined and cryed when the game wasn't played their way. And when CA wasn't run the way they wanted it. If they had kept their mouths shut and moved on or left, CA would still be around. Hopefully most people who know me, know I try to post what I believe to be the truth but also in a non-biased non-inflammatory way. And if I dont, I dont mind having the errors of my ways pointed out. I have a personal dislike for the people above for one reason, during my time in CA and especially when myself and Kawasaki were trying to solve the Aneu situation (as it was known). The people above were always first to attack any sensible proposals put forward, I wont go into details, as really it is history. I too am biased, I like Xirt. He makes mistakes but we all do but he is funny and makes me laugh, and end of the day it is a game and about having fun. Only took the fall of CA and someoneÆs wise words to make me realise how much time you can waste trying to convince people to be reasonable when all they want is to have their way. And in the end they did, VOTF left. Now there may be post on this somewhere but if we (VOTF) were the reason CA fell? Why did it not go from strength to strength once we left?
Damo Pendragon	Posted - 2005.02.24 14:39:00 - [86] Oh and if people wonder why I post so much these days, Boredom in work is a horrible affliction on those with a brain!
Stained	Posted - 2005.02.24 20:35:00 - [87] Stop saying "alpha team". Every time I read it spit my drink out my nose. ___________________________________________________________________ Hair is Over-rated.
TIvian	Posted - 2005.02.24 20:59:00 - [88] Edited by: TIvian on 24/02/2005 20:59:38 Originally by: Stained Stop saying "alpha team". Every time I read it spit my drink out my nose. ALPHA TEAM ALPHA TEAM ALPHA TEAM ALPHA TEAM ALPHA TEAM ALPHA TEAM (\_/) (O.o) (> <) Teh Uber Asheron's Call Bunny Booty WTFPWNZ you!!
crice	Posted - 2005.02.24 23:43:00 - [89] Something new is always happening. JOY! I am not surprised VOTF and Shinra are fighting, not one bit..... Two of my favs fighting it out.
Emmerich Steiner	Posted - 2005.02.25 09:06:00 - [90] Originally by: Val Amon Tivian lets start our own thread where we get mad at each other and stuff so we have something to do during work. 49 Hours for Sat. Mon. Tue. Wed. this week so far. Keep the long threads coming guys I run out of stuff to read sometime around noon usually. hehe same here.. at least when they dont post I can get some work done instead of hiding from my boss reading the eve-o forum soap opera. "next time on all our eve.. who is chowdown's and xirtam's illegtimate asexual lovechild?" organ music Currently training: Original Sig / Rank 1 / SP: 198000 of 256000

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