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Takashi Halamoto
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.28 17:59:00 -
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 Originally by: Robert Mason
Originally by: Takashi Halamoto
simple i want to buy a Rattlesnake with full Deadspace (pith, gist, domi, etc) fit with t2 rigs
id love to come across that rattler.....
in which case ill appologise in advance for 1, not flying a rattlesnake at all, 2, using an alt in an npc corp missioning for isk
though on the whole - GTC converting is kinda cheating well thats a whole other argument, for instance am i cheating or such because i dont pay sub, i buy plex after ratting,missioning whatever, in real terms eve has had none of my $$ in over a year, though im helping someone else's eve experience getting them money for no work and i get game time for a little work
Me? im just sitting here,
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F1F2F3
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Posted - 2011.06.28 18:01:00 -
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Edited by: F1F2F3 on 28/06/2011 18:01:06
tl;dr
Don't speak english. F1,f2,f3... |
Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.28 18:05:00 -
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Pay for anything but vanity items is for dumb ****s who cant succeed via skill. Embrace that.
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Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Kill Rockstar
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Posted - 2011.06.28 18:07:00 -
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You don't even get it do you..... dum de dum dum dum dumb!
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Leeroy McJenkins
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.28 18:12:00 -
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Its nice to see people taking Incarna as an opportunity to troll the **** out of everyone else. 
Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins
There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
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Takashi Halamoto
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.28 18:13:00 -
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cant let our dear goon friends have all the fun all the time can we,,,,,
Me? im just sitting here,
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FantomChaser
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Posted - 2011.06.28 18:17:00 -
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KAAL REDRUM...
just to give you a hint of these lines
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Cynical me says, when someone kills a 350M Dram in a 20M ship, its because he tactically outmanouvered the dram pilot. The dram pilot had enough ISK to not be bothered by a 350M loss (relatively speaking):
Does it matter? Now he will be able to officer/faction fit his dram using $->Aurum. How is that different from what he does now? It frankly doesnt affect my gameplay. Im sure it affects others - adapt, perish or leave is the CCP call - tough, but what you gonna do?
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what will ultimately change the stuff that he dont feel he lost any thing because he have 20bill isk and he only lost like 500m isk... well by suddenly using Aurum to fit his new ship... those isk he haves will stop moving around and considering he bougt the modules + the ship from aurum where this is about we dont want ships spawned out of thin air... then it will hurt the guys like me a miner.. because if ships starting to be sold less and less from eve marked then the mineral marked will overflood even more than it is all rdy.. so my ships become worth less and less and in the end we cannot keep up with the AURUM trade wich in the end will kill a part of the gameplay the industrial part.. then theres no reason for me to play.. i enjoy some pvp and missions now and then but for me Production is just IT where the other 2 part is a bonus
thats some of the problem... well i dont have time to try explain it in a better way and sorry for the miss spellings
/fc
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Swynet
State War Academy
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Posted - 2011.06.28 18:18:00 -
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Originally by: Takashi Halamoto
cant let our dear goon friends have all the fun all the time can we,,,,,
You're missing fuel to gtfo?
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Taius Pax
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Posted - 2011.06.28 18:18:00 -
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**** the change. Fight the future.
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Takashi Halamoto
Mercurialis Inc.
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2011.06.28 18:21:00 -
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nah had plenty, thanks,
though this COO interview oh god its like CCP want the negative press to keep spinning
Me? im just sitting here,
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Tali Ambraelle
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Posted - 2011.06.28 18:40:00 -
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Originally by: Kaal Redrum
Edited by: Kaal Redrum on 28/06/2011 06:02:07
Edit: I want to make sure 'Re-tards' isnt edited out.
Ya god forbid i have something to say that is contrarian and not in 100% alignment to the rabble-rabble of the mob .. oh noes.
Fail. My fault for posting where R-etards rule. Ill stick to private forums, thank you sir for showing me the light.
lol
Reported for evading censor :)
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Ezra Vouland
Lords 0f Justice
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.06.28 18:42:00 -
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Lol lok at allt he fools just saying "You dont get it" or it will "break the sand box." Money on they barely participate in the game and any change would minimally effect them.
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Narisa Bithon
Caldari
The Motley Crew Reborn
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Posted - 2011.06.28 18:44:00 -
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Originally by: ScreenWipe
Edited by: ScreenWipe on 28/06/2011 05:37:52
Most of the un subs are botter accounts, since they no longer have space i.e. NC aligned.
not stricly true there are many many more drf bots too... with performance now being an issue said bot operators need new pc equipment to continue running all those bots from the same number of pcs.
there is probably quite a fair amount of annoyed bot operators in the dronelands
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equincu ocha
The Tuskers
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Posted - 2011.06.28 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Takashi Halamoto
so less of the sheep attitude and lets see some more goats refusing to blindly accept that which is wrong
I'll agree with that statement
The sheep are all quitting right now because of a false belief that CCP is going to turn aurum into pay-to-win.
Until anyone can link something a member of CCP has said to the public that says otherwise it's all just wild conjecture. |
Ariel Nova
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Posted - 2011.06.28 20:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kaal Redrum
It will effect different people, in different ways. Personally, while id never pay $70 for a monocole, but id certainly see the value in paying real $'s for Skillpoints - why should i lose fights to players whose only edge seems to be that they started playing EVE earlier - if MT allows me to purchase HAC-5 overnight, im paying.
You, my friend, are lazy. You also have no idea how Eve works, because having HAC-5 may not help you win. Additionally, being 6yrs old does not mean I'll win either.
Originally by: Kaal Redrum
- is he in the goo biz with an alt?
- is he part of a null alliance with vast resources?
- is he a BOT using miner?
- does he buy PLEX with real$ and sell to the market for ISK, then uses that ISK to faction/officer fit his dram?
the difference, for the 100th time, is trade. plex was game time only, trading it for isk to buy a ship or pos is fine because the other player is out isk but has game time. Dumping plex into the NeX store is essentially saying, "I do not want game time, I want virtual clothes and/or advantages."
The game time is not collected and it works the same as if a player hauling plex were to get killed. this is CCP's way of turning the player into dev dollars. (CCP could have accomplished the same thing buy jetting all the plex in eve into space and having Concord blow it up, though this way players think they actually get something in return)
Originally by: Kaal Redrum
Buying SPs, for instance, in fact would be a good change - it gives 'noobs' a chance - no longer rofl killing the 0.1% sub-6 month newbs who do manage to come into low-sec/null-sec. Let more noobs spend real $s, get good skills and fight on a reasonable playing field - win for all:
- CCP makes $s,
- noobs get to see more game content,
- low-sec/null-sec pilots will get more fights, what the problem?
Whats with this incredible obsession of bowing to the 2004 playerbase. Ya, youve been here long, great, you already have billions in ISK as an advantage, does your 'EVE age' give you a right to rule EVE - nullsec or lowsec or marketplace? Because currently you do.
you, and people that think like you will ruin every MMO you ever join.
Of-course being here since 2004 gives us the right to rule Eve. To be clear, not everyone that was here that long "rules Eve". A lot of newer players have, through hard work, made their way to the top of Eve as well.
quit being lazy and looking for CCP to provide you with a quick, effortless, win.
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Inspiration
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Posted - 2011.06.28 20:57:00 -
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Originally by: Ariel Nova
you, and people that think like you will ruin every MMO you ever join.
Of-course being here since 2004 gives us the right to rule Eve. To be clear, not everyone that was here that long "rules Eve". A lot of newer players have, through hard work, made their way to the top of Eve as well.
quit being lazy and looking for CCP to provide you with a quick, effortless, win.
I concur, in EVE it is the travel you make towards your own set goals and all the obstacles you have to overcome that make it worth playing. This holds true at every level of character development as long as there are new things to set goals towards. I have very found memories of both environment and player interaction when I had barely a few hundred thousand skill points and no money at all. From the 2004 player perspective, current new subscribers are born as rich as 6 month olds back then. And within a few weeks, they reach the level most did not reach in a years time back in those days.
In other words, new player envy of older players accomplishments over the years as being unfair is a very misplaced concept...to say the least!
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Inspiration
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Posted - 2011.06.28 21:10:00 -
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Edited by: Inspiration on 28/06/2011 21:10:19
Originally by: equincu ocha
Originally by: Takashi Halamoto
so less of the sheep attitude and lets see some more goats refusing to blindly accept that which is wrong
I'll agree with that statement
The sheep are all quitting right now because of a false belief that CCP is going to turn aurum into pay-to-win.
Until anyone can link something a member of CCP has said to the public that says otherwise it's all just wild conjecture.
The way they implemented MT now, even just for vanity items, will destroy a part of the sandbox and lower the number of sustainable subscriptions. They have to come up with a better, cleaner way if they want to pursue it. And they need to make a clear statement that they are not and will not work on anything beyond vanity items! Really, how hard is that to say and be over with half the issues players have?
And finally:
Leave PLEX alone! It is game time manifested in a single purpose in-game item that can only be converted back to one out of game item...game time! So EVE players can trade game time using in-game controls....brilliant, do not introduce stuff that affect this!
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Javja
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Posted - 2011.06.28 22:00:00 -
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Originally by: Shiro Sudoku
Originally by: Javja
I like the bit about "Get on board of frak off." Pretty much sums up how I feel about it. Let the bittervets uninstall and go **** up a different game. They won't be missed. The vacuum they leave behind will be filled relatively quickly by people like me. As it should be.
If they're too weak to deal with change, then they're too weak to remain.
Sleazy rat pretty much sums up how I feel about people like you, you suck at EVE so you get all excited when the vets, people who have accomplished more
than you through their skill say there going to leave. Thats the only way pathetic little noobs like you will ever get anywhere in EVE.
Taking the **** we leave behind. It's funny how many noob are openly admitting there happy the vets are leave cause now they can go to 0.0 hahahaha good
luck that, your notin 0.0 now for a reason, you suck at EVE. If you cant do somthing on your own merit, how can you take pride in it?
Tears! Wonderful tears!! MOAR WHINING VETS!!! GTFO!
...and go **** up some other game you whiny little girl.
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Javja
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Posted - 2011.06.28 22:13:00 -
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Edited by: Javja on 28/06/2011 22:13:58
...and the vacuum I'm talking about isn't 0.0 space. The small vacuum that you whiners will have by leaving 0.0 will barely be noticed and quickly filled.
u mad that nobody will miss you when you're gone, bro?
u mad?
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San Severina
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.06.28 22:15:00 -
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tl;dr
but no, just no - going on title alone.
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Govinda Sertan
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Posted - 2011.06.28 22:49:00 -
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TL;DR :
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Tagarr Nolen
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Posted - 2011.06.28 22:56:00 -
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Originally by: Govinda Sertan
TL;DR :
Well, that pretty much err... sums it up.
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Duvida
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.06.28 23:22:00 -
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1. Embracing the change is difficult when Carbon makes the change searingly hot to display.
2. The "Pay more to win more" (We *already* pay, remember?) is a down spiral. There's a minimum number of subscribers needed to keep EVE viable, and frustrating players by requiring more and more cash from them *just to keep in the game* will not work. It isn't rational.
On a side note, pirates will have some nice kills *IF* the "Super Golden Megathron" drops anything unique. If not, the lol factor will be there, but that will be it.
This desperate changes seems driven by some bad decision making at CCP's higher echelons.
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