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Zeratul Kerrigan
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Posted - 2011.06.28 16:01:00 -
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Hey, I'm pretty new to eve with only two months of playing. I've been here and there trying to figure out what I like and enjoy the most.
As for now, I got a Drake(Mission) and Retriever as often used ship and my Rifter wich I've been flying around in nullsec with. I haven't got any PvP experience at all, but nullsec seems really interesting as I like PvP.
I'm not far from being able to fly a Wolf or Jaguar but I've read they're not good for anything really. Then I came across people recommend Heavy Assault Cruiser/Ships for solo/small gang pvp.
What ship would you recommend me to get? I got no real speciallication when it comes to skills yet, but my mining and Missiles skills are the strongest right now I guess.
I don't know if you can see my skills but if you explain how to link them I can do that too. 
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Bow'en
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
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Posted - 2011.06.28 16:06:00 -
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It's hard to say without looking at your skill set and knowing more about what you want to do, but in general I would stay away from a HAC if you are only two months in. The cost of the ship compared to how quickly you will lose it will quickly make things difficult for you.
The Drake may be a good ship to focus on in the interim.
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Nak hak
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Posted - 2011.06.28 21:13:00 -
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My suggestion. Getting into PvP is allot like PvE. Start with a PvP fitted frigate. Move throw destroyer( Only Thrasher.), cruiser,.... etc. When you start out, you'll be blowing up allot. As you get more experience, you'll be blowing up less often.
Best Regards.
Nak hak, The Self-Righteous |
Llambda
Space Llama Industries
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Posted - 2011.06.28 23:51:00 -
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You're already flying around in the best T1 pvp frigate in the game - I would use that.
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Wool Lou
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Posted - 2011.06.28 23:54:00 -
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rifter can take you a long way
if you really want to pvp at any decent level youll have a lot of support skills to train
and your inevitable losses to gain experience might as well be cheap
drake could be fine too if you have a suitable gang
it really depends on what race you want to focus on
for minmatar: rifter thrasher rupture hurricane are all fine and relatively cheap
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Pharos Pharos
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Posted - 2011.06.29 00:31:00 -
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HM Drake is honestly one of the best solo pvp ships in the game at the moment, but start off in rifters until you no longer feel like you're making dumb mistakes every fight, then move up to a cruiser (stabber/caracal/arbitrator) and just practice your kiting in something bigger(don't expect to kill much, but it's a good way to learn) and then we're you're pretty decent at the basics get a Drake and you're good for awhile.
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Chiana Moro
Sons Of 0din
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.06.29 03:27:00 -
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I started in low sec in a humble Rifter. As people have said, it's the best T1 frig to start PvP'ing in. When you tire of dying in a frig, try the Rupture. Those were the basic two first ships I had.
Fast forward a lot of training ... and now I fly T2 cruisers. Prefer HACs, but they are not something I'd start flying "at your age" as when you lose them, you'd be pretty skint. 
And you will lose ships, you will die. A LOT - be prepared.
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Qalm Anity
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.06.29 08:07:00 -
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I'm about two months in myself, so *brofist*, and hopefully a reply that helps you on your way as well.
At two months, if you can fly a Drake, Retriever, a Rifter, and have points in both missile and gunnery skills, you're kind of spread all over the place and your basics are lacking. I believe one of the previous replies suggested hitting those, and I concur. The reason being that the lower your capacitor and HP related skills are, the easier you are to take down. You will have less capacitor, tank, dps, etc. than almost any equally shipped opponent.
That's one of the reasons people recommend flying frigates first. It takes fewer skill points to maximize a frigate. Frigates are fun, as well. They are also cheaper to lose, which you will until you gain more pilot skill.
All things being equal, player skill helps determine who will win an even match. Experience teaches how to fit a ship and, how to fly it with that fit, and how to react in a given circumstance.
There are several ways to get experience; all have advantages and disadvantages.
1) Agony Unleashed classes - A O.O corp occasionally offering pvp classes to the public.
2) Eve University - a player run institution teaching everything Eve: industry, mining, pvp, etc.
3) Bravely venture forth on your own
4) Join a newb friendly pvp corp
5) RvB - two corps perpetually wardecced against each other.
If you would like links to the above resources I can provide them upon request.
I myself have chosen to join RvB. I've had a great time learned a lot. When I want to try a new trick out, someone always obliges. When I have questions, I get answers, and pvp is never far away. To illustrate where experience makes a difference and flying frigates is a good idea early on, here's a quick story.
We were roaming through 0.0 and found a system with ratters. They docked up shortly after we arrived, and station games ensued. I tried bumping them out of the docking radius, a pilot related skill I'd just picked up on that roam. After a while, we decided to warp off and reassess. The fleet commander fleet warped us out. The only problem for me was the station itself. It had four prongs sticking out of the bottom. My ship kept trying to warp, but kept bouncing off the station instead. Shortly after I figured out what was happening, two enemy battleships pooped out. I tried docking. I tried double clicking in space to get around the freakin prongs. Apparently you can't do that while trying to warp. So, I just kept bouncing off that damn prong randomly hitting buttons in panicked frustration until the battleships eventually locked and quickly dispatched my frigate. Fortunately, I got my pod out. Naturally, while fleeing in my pod I realized by cancelling warp I could have stopped the ridiculous bouncing and either docked or steered around the prong. So, I lost a frigate due to inexperience.
The moral of the story is: when I start flying more expensive coffins, at least I won't explode to that mistake. I've learned many other things in my RvB stint, and still have much to learn. Hopefully you get some great experience as well whatever path you choose. But listen to those vets, because they do know what they're talking about, especially with respect to skilling the basic stuff and that pilot skill will help you succeed, so get out there and have some fun!
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Talia Yvormes
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Posted - 2011.06.29 09:16:00 -
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Early mistakes like one the mentioned above is a good reason as to why cheap T1 ships are prefered beginner ships.
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Pyatera
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Posted - 2011.06.29 14:13:00 -
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Don't ever forget Rule number 1 in Eve: Don't fly what you can't afford to replace.
I doubt that, after 2 months, you'll be in a position to replace a Drake very often but a cheap frigate is easy. Gain your experience and learn the tricks in a ship you can write off and laugh about it. You are not going to win many encounters at this early stage, I'd be surprised if you won any at all really, but the experience is always useful. Learn what mistakes you could avoid next time and, as your skills get better, your experience will add to them to make you a formidable opponent in the future.
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Zeratul Kerrigan
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Posted - 2011.06.29 16:05:00 -
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Thanks for all replies. No idea Heavy Assault Ship was so expensive, tought they was a little above Assault Ships..
I was out a little in low/null-sec yesterday with my Rifter, couldn't find anything worth attacking but I didn't die either :)
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Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov
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Posted - 2011.06.29 17:35:00 -
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Edited by: Rodion Romanovich Raskolnikov on 29/06/2011 17:35:31
http://www.factionalwarfare.info/1363/recommended-reading-solo-combat-roaming/
http://www.failheap-challenge.com/viewtopic.php?f=14&t=262
There's lots of good resources for the budding soloist, but you will have to look around to find them.
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