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Commander Tigre Minmatar Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:22:00 - [1] AHHHHHHH CAPSLOCK ENGAGE!!!!!!!!!! Seriously though, how about you stop worrying about the broken BS with CQ and fix other more pertinent issues... like fixing the bug where a ship will not stop under any circumstances outside of relogging? Or how about the hictor bubbles IN JITA! Jesus you break more of the game with every patch than you actually manage to fix.
Chuey Zero	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:25:00 - [2] Originally by: Commander Tigre you break more of the game with every patch than you actually manage to fix. this
Viking Sven	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:30:00 - [3] As they said at fanfest... 50% bug squashing, 50% expansion. Only problem is with every expansion we get 100% more bugs...
Ethan Blacknova Gallente Perkele Mining Corporation	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:30:00 - [4] Just now; 16:29:06 Info: Dear players, the servers will be closing immediately for an emergency reboot at GMT 16:45. If at all possible, please make sure your characters are out of harms way.-The EVE Online Team
Xixa Nova	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:35:00 - [5] Edited by: Xixa Nova on 28/06/2011 16:36:01 They are fixing the issues, as I type this in fact. More issues will be fixed as they are uncovered and/or a solution is found, as always. Everyone wants the issues fixed, and then when they get fixed everyone cries and complains about having to download the patch that fixes them. I guess I just don't understand the problem? Edit: fixed grammar.
Viking Sven	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:38:00 - [6] Originally by: Xixa Nova Edited by: Xixa Nova on 28/06/2011 16:36:01 They are fixing the issues, as I type this in fact. More issues will be fixed as they are uncovered and/or a solution is found, as always. Everyone wants the issues fixed, and then when they get fixed everyone cries and complains about having to download the patch that fixes them. I guess I just don't understand the problem? Edit: fixed grammar. I'll make it real ****ing simple. CCP break game. Players mad. Players want game fixed.
Commander Tigre Minmatar Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:39:00 - [7] The issue is, these were never issues BEFORE. This means they employed people to touch the code who didn't know wtf they were doing. Not to mention these bugs are bugs fundamental to the game play. Such as being able to stop your ship, or maybe I don't know, not being able to cyno your titan into high sec.
Xixa Nova	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:41:00 - [8] Edited by: Xixa Nova on 28/06/2011 16:46:13 Edited by: Xixa Nova on 28/06/2011 16:45:03 Originally by: Viking Sven I'll make it real **ing simple. CCP break game. Players mad. Players want game fixed. Not too smart, are you. Allow me to fix your errors: "I'll make it real *ing simple. CCP updates* game. Players mad. Players want game fixed. CCP fixes bugs that show up. Players mad. Players mad." Dumb. Originally by: Commander Tigre The issue is, these were never issues BEFORE. This means they employed people to touch the code who didn't know wtf they were doing. Not to mention these bugs are bugs fundamental to the game play. Such as being able to stop your ship, or maybe I don't know, not being able to cyno your titan into high sec. No, they weren't issues before. A programmer must change code to update the game (obvious of course). When code is changed, unintended things can and almost always do happen (again, obvious). In a game like Eve, there is only so much play testing that can be done because the only way to fully test it is to put it on the live server with all the players, and at that point it is, of course, live (still obvious). I still don't understand the problem. This will all be worked out. Relax a little. .
Ispai Ponue Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:44:00 - [9] Originally by: Chuey Zero Originally by: Commander Tigre you break more of the game with every patch than you actually manage to fix. this The use of Python allows them to more quickly and thoroughly test changes before passing them on to you, the player. You must be mistaken.
Commander Tigre Minmatar Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:44:00 - [10] Originally by: Xixa Nova Originally by: Viking Sven Originally by: Xixa Nova Edited by: Xixa Nova on 28/06/2011 16:36:01 They are fixing the issues, as I type this in fact. More issues will be fixed as they are uncovered and/or a solution is found, as always. Everyone wants the issues fixed, and then when they get fixed everyone cries and complains about having to download the patch that fixes them. I guess I just don't understand the problem? Edit: fixed grammar. I'll make it real **ing simple. CCP break game. Players mad. Players want game fixed. Not too smart, are you. Allow me to fix your errors: "I'll make it real *ing simple. CCP updates* game. Players mad. Players want game fixed. CCP fixes bugs that show up. Players mad. Players mad." Dumb. CCP employee spotted trying to save face for their sinking ship of a company.
Spurty Caldari V0LTA VOLTA Corp	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:44:00 - [11] Originally by: Viking Sven I'll make it real ****ing simple. CCP break game. Players mad. Players want game fixed. This is the average reaction -- MT? Character Bazaar right?
Slave PH4350	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:45:00 - [12] Originally by: Xixa NovaI'll make it real **ing simple. Not too smart, are you. Allow me to fix your errors: "I'll make it real *ing simple. CCP updates* game. Players mad. Players want game fixed. CCP fixes bugs that show up. Players mad. Players mad." Dumb.[/quote Sorry but this is so short sighted. players=customers and they are not mad. They have valid complaints and it would be best to address them as such Issue of today kinda shows, seems so basic to me: Following the release of Incarna 1.0.1 we have discovered an issue with the markets not loading correctly in some regions. We have a fix in place for this issue which will require a short downtime on Tranquility. The servers will go offline at 16:40 UTC and we expect to be online again at 17:00 UTC.
Valei Khurelem	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:46:00 - [13] rofl yeah, that gorrilla getting attacked is so CCP :P
Xixa Nova	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:50:00 - [14] Originally by: Commander Tigre CCP employee spotted trying to save face for their sinking ship of a company. You are SO clever! What an inventive way to discredit someone who has a differing viewpoint! You must be an American Republican, or an employee of Fox news. Originally by: Slave PH4350 Sorry but this is so short sighted. players=customers and they are not mad. They have valid complaints and it would be best to address them as such Issue of today kinda shows, seems so basic to me: Following the release of Incarna 1.0.1 we have discovered an issue with the markets not loading correctly in some regions. We have a fix in place for this issue which will require a short downtime on Tranquility. The servers will go offline at 16:40 UTC and we expect to be online again at 17:00 UTC. Yea, so what? There are problems with the game. The bugs will get fixed, and the "features" that people don't like will either make them leave or they won't. I still don't see the problem, but then again Eve is just a game to me and I don't really have any emotional investment in it. I will play until I don't want to, and then I will not play. The end. .
Misanth RABBLE RABBLE RABBLE	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:52:00 - [15] Originally by: Xixa Nova Originally by: Commander Tigre CCP employee spotted trying to save face for their sinking ship of a company. You are SO clever! What an inventive way to discredit someone who has a differing viewpoint! You must be an American Republican, or an employee of Fox news. No matter what you are, you made me lol, so you must be in the entertainment business. -
Sellendis Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:55:00 - [16] What i dont get, is how they manage to screw up one thing, when they do any fixes about it. Like drones not getting skill bonuses, or salvagers getting tractor bonuses. Free Helicity Boson
Commander Tigre Minmatar Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.28 16:58:00 - [17] The fact that you have not addressed the original comments about basic bugs which only became a problem with incarna says that you are not interested in actually getting them fixed. Furthermore, you are only interested in feeding off the bull*hit ccp feeds you. Congrats, you have become a mindless cow. Go you.
Xixa Nova	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:00:00 - [18] Edited by: Xixa Nova on 28/06/2011 17:02:56 Originally by: Misanth Originally by: Xixa Nova Originally by: Commander Tigre CCP employee spotted trying to save face for their sinking ship of a company. You are SO clever! What an inventive way to discredit someone who has a differing viewpoint! You must be an American Republican, or an employee of Fox news. No matter what you are, you made me lol, so you must be in the entertainment business. I'm glad I could brighten someone's day. I am not in the entertainment business, and in fact generally only seek to entertain myself. I am actually a yikes! Engineer. Originally by: Sellendis What i dont get, is how they manage to screw up one thing, when they do any fixes about it. Like drones not getting skill bonuses, or salvagers getting tractor bonuses. I don't really get it either (not a programmer), but the way I understand it is that in addition to the "features" added in Incarna, there was a massive overhaul of the basic architecture of the code. CCP is making Python do things that it was never imagined that Python could do (or at least that's how I read the devblogs technical mumbo jumbo). Originally by: Commander Tigre The fact that you have not addressed the original comments about basic bugs which only became a problem with incarna says that you are not interested in actually getting them fixed. Furthermore, you are only interested in feeding off the bullhit ccp feeds you. Congrats, you have become a mindless cow. Go you. I DID* address the original comments, when I said that the bugs ARE being fixed. And they are, as evidenced by the two client updates prior to today, and then one bigger update during downtime today, and now probably another client hotfix after this unscheduled downtime. And I'm sure that even more bugs will be fixed as soon as possible, so I still don't see your problem. Maybe your problems are all in your head?... . .
Commander Tigre Minmatar Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:02:00 - [19] Originally by: Xixa Nova No, they weren't issues before. A programmer must change code to update the game (obvious of course). When code is changed, unintended things can and almost always do happen (again, obvious). In a game like Eve, there is only so much play testing that can be done because the only way to fully test it is to put it on the live server with all the players, and at that point it is, of course, live (still obvious). I still don't understand the problem. This will all be worked out. Relax a little. . You are obviously not a programmer and never have been so please do not talk about what you do not have any clue about.
Xercodo Amarr Daj'Juntar	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:04:00 - [20] Edited by: Xercodo on 28/06/2011 17:04:59 Originally by: Slave PH4350 Originally by: Xixa NovaI'll make it real **ing simple. Not too smart, are you. Allow me to fix your errors: "I'll make it real *ing simple. CCP updates* game. Players mad. Players want game fixed. CCP fixes bugs that show up. Players mad. Players mad." Dumb.[/quote Sorry but this is so short sighted. players=customers and they are not mad. They have valid complaints and it would be best to address them as such Issue of today kinda shows, seems so basic to me: Following the release of Incarna 1.0.1 we have discovered an issue with the markets not loading correctly in some regions. We have a fix in place for this issue which will require a short downtime on Tranquility. The servers will go offline at 16:40 UTC and we expect to be online again at 17:00 UTC. 1) ya it is pretty true...see how they fixed stuff today with 1.0.1? and what is this thread about again?... 2) @ OP they did fix the hictor bubble in jita it was a graphic effect: While using a Focused Warp Disruption script in a Warp Disruption Field Generator I a bubble-effect was sometimes shown for other pilots. This is no longer occurs. 3) Based on the link that has been going around about the employee reviews on CCP, the programmers don't know what they're doing not because they are incompetent but because the code lacks serious documentation. Management has been telling them to skip swaying it is "a waste of time" but then ended up wasting more time trying to teach the new guys stuff from scratch. -------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie
Viking Sven	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:05:00 - [21] Originally by: Sellendis What i dont get, is how they manage to screw up one thing, when they do any fixes about it. Like drones not getting skill bonuses, or salvagers getting tractor bonuses. They have a fix. Just relog every time you change ships. And wait 30 seconds for the timer. And 30 more seconds for the timer of the timer timer. Timer. A year from now you might actually get to shoot something. As for Xixa, you're either an epic troll or just wicked ignorant. Whenever they update the game they break it. That's what this thread is about. And FYI they have a way to mass test their server; it's called Sisi, and they often implement bugs that are reported on Sisi anyways (backwards T3s, anyone?). They introduce bugs that have nothing to do with the new content. Why the **** would hics suddenly be able to toss up bubbles in high sec? That has NOTHING to do with anything added in Incarna. Got an answer for that, Xixa?
Xixa Nova	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:06:00 - [22] Originally by: Commander Tigre Originally by: Xixa Nova No, they weren't issues before. A programmer must change code to update the game (obvious of course). When code is changed, unintended things can and almost always do happen (again, obvious). In a game like Eve, there is only so much play testing that can be done because the only way to fully test it is to put it on the live server with all the players, and at that point it is, of course, live (still obvious). I still don't understand the problem. This will all be worked out. Relax a little. . You are obviously not a programmer and never have been so please do not talk about what you do not have any clue about. No, make me **** for brains. To change code, you must change code. Anyone knows that, not just programmers. When you make changes, things change. Everyone knows that also. On top of that, the devblog had in-depth technical speak about GIGANTIC changes. Again, the word GIGANTIC is not just for programmers. I am sorry that YOU don't understand, but it doesn't mean that nobody understands. .
Alice Katsuko Terra Incognita Intrepid Crossing	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:06:00 - [23] It happens. They're already fixing it. Relax and take a break.
Xercodo Amarr Daj'Juntar	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:08:00 - [24] Originally by: Xixa Nova Originally by: Commander Tigre Originally by: Xixa Nova No, they weren't issues before. A programmer must change code to update the game (obvious of course). When code is changed, unintended things can and almost always do happen (again, obvious). In a game like Eve, there is only so much play testing that can be done because the only way to fully test it is to put it on the live server with all the players, and at that point it is, of course, live (still obvious). I still don't understand the problem. This will all be worked out. Relax a little. . You are obviously not a programmer and never have been so please do not talk about what you do not have any clue about. No, make me ** for brains. To change code, you must change code. Anyone knows that, not just programmers. When you make changes, things change. Everyone knows that also. On top of that, the devblog had in-depth technical speak about GIGANTIC changes. Again, the word GIGANTIC is not just for programmers. I am sorry that YOU don't understand, but it doesn't mean that nobody understands. . as an actually programmer I can confirm, ** happens... -------------------------------------------------- The drake is a lie
Mr Epeen It's All About Me	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:13:00 - [25] Originally by: Commander Tigre CCP employee spotted trying to save face for their sinking ship of a company. CCP customer spotted still playing a game they apparently despise. In related news: CCP laughing all the way to the bank. Mr Epeen
Sellendis Caldari	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:14:00 - [26] Edited by: Sellendis on 28/06/2011 17:14:58 Originally by: Xixa Nova No, make me ** for brains. To change code, you must change code. Anyone knows that, not just programmers. When you make changes, things change. Everyone knows that also. On top of that, the devblog had in-depth technical speak about GIGANTIC changes. Again, the word GIGANTIC is not just for programmers. I am sorry that YOU don't understand, but it doesn't mean that nobody understands. . You are trolling or acting like a complete idiot. In what world does changing a "few" lines of code for 1 thing, breaks something completely on opposite side? If they were reworking drones and somehow managed to disable skill bonuses, i would say ok, crap happens. But replacing turret icons visual appearance does not mean they change the stats for turrets. Or somehow in Noctis prefs they enable tractor range bonuses for salvagers? I would really like to see how a "few" lines of code write themselves by error. Free Helicity Boson**
Xixa Nova	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:14:00 - [27] Originally by: Xercodo as an actually programmer I can confirm, ** happens... Woohoo!!! Though I am not a programmer, I did program some basic stuff in college in both Assembly and C++. Even in tiny little practice programs like the ones I did, wacky insane ** happens.
Commander Tigre Minmatar Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:16:00 - [28] Originally by: Xixa Nova blah blah blah, troll troll troll... (engineer thinking he is so clever)... troll troll troll blah blah blah Keep on trolling. Also engineers are some of the dumbest people I know. Not because they are not intelligent, but because they are just smart enough to think they are brilliant.
Commander Tigre Minmatar Merch Industrial Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:18:00 - [29] Originally by: Xixa Nova blah blah blah, troll troll troll... (engineer thinking he is so clever)... troll troll troll blah blah blah Keep on trolling. Also engineers are some of the dumbest people I know. Not because they are not intelligent, but because they are just smart enough to think they are brilliant.
Xixa Nova	Posted - 2011.06.28 17:22:00 - [30] Originally by: Commander Tigre Originally by: Xixa Nova blah blah blah, troll troll troll... (engineer thinking he is so clever)... troll troll troll blah blah blah Keep on trolling. Also engineers are some of the dumbest people I know. Not because they are not intelligent, but because they are just smart enough to think they are brilliant. (Based on your "thoughts" in this thread) Coming from you I am perfectly okay with that opinion of yours. .

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