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serrie
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Posted - 2011.06.30 08:16:00 -
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I woud like to propose to CCP that the twelveteen million or so dead/dormant trial accounts that have never been activated since trial end from the last 7 years be deleted and the names contained therin released for new players/characters.
CCP can simply send an email giving them notice (like the emails we all get inviting us back after 6 months of not playing) and then terminating the accounts after the given time. My proposal is for dormant TRIAL accounts only. If a player has activated then in all fairness they should be able to keep name and character for any future use.
Thoughts?
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Laechyd Eldgorn
Hikivirta
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.06.30 09:51:00 -
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trial accounts only, why not
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Krxon Blade
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Posted - 2011.06.30 10:13:00 -
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Yes, but for trial accounts only.
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Alpine 69
Rubbish Superheroes
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Posted - 2011.06.30 11:24:00 -
[4]
I totally agree with this if it regards trial accounts only and a 30 day notification is sent beforehand.
/signed.
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2011.06.30 12:22:00 -
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Yes for cleaning up the character namespace. It even makes the DB guys happy.
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Bunyip
Center for Advanced Studies
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Posted - 2011.06.30 13:05:00 -
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I kinda agree with this one. IMHO, it should be accounts that are more than six months expired and with two million or less skill points. That will clean up a lot of the namespace, and clean up the servers as well.
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De'Veldrin
Norse'Storm Battle Group
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.06.30 13:12:00 -
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For non-activated trial accounts, absolutely.
--Vel
 Originally by: Blacksquirrel
This is EVE. PVE can happen anywhere at anytime. Be prepared.
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Mardock Daye
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Posted - 2011.06.30 13:22:00 -
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+1
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Orb Vex
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Posted - 2011.06.30 14:56:00 -
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Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
Word of Chaos Undivided
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Posted - 2011.06.30 15:07:00 -
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I support this in principle, but it is probably going to be more trouble to implement than it is worth.
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Coruso Malefactor
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Posted - 2011.06.30 15:09:00 -
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More name options and cleans up the DB.
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Mattio11
Quantum Cats Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.06.30 15:17:00 -
[12]
makes sense
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Bagehi
Association of Commonwealth Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:01:00 -
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If it was only a trial and never activated after a year, it makes sense to toss them in the meat grinder.
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W3370Pi4
Lamb Federation Navy
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:16:00 -
[14]
i support this
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Sakura Ren Fenikkusu
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:32:00 -
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/signed
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Alejan Gerakh
Clan Hyena
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:35:00 -
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Edited by: Alejan Gerakh on 30/06/2011 16:37:11
I will agree this, only applied to trial accounts as already suggested, is probably a good idea, even though this character was one that laid dormant as an unactivated Trial for a year or two before friends dragged me in full-speed.
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CORPSE FEMALE
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:52:00 -
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Agreed.
However, any char that has ever been made non-trial should be left untouched.
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Sur Smacs
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Posted - 2011.06.30 16:55:00 -
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Ya, any trial account over 6 months old should be given notice and then removed.
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DeftCrow Redriver
Best Path Inc.
Cascade Imminent
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Posted - 2011.06.30 20:16:00 -
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Supported.
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Assassin126
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Posted - 2011.06.30 20:24:00 -
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Edited by: Assassin126 on 30/06/2011 20:24:20
sounds good, expired trials only of course, after several months
I have just updated my torpedoes with a new windows operating system guidance system, prepare to feel my wrath!! oh... my torpedoes are coming back towards me |
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Jasdemi
Interstellar Whine Brewery
Monocle Overlords
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Posted - 2011.06.30 20:26:00 -
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Edited by: Jasdemi on 30/06/2011 20:26:23
My monocle says I must approve this wonderful idea.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.06.30 21:06:00 -
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Originally by: Krxon Blade
Yes, but for trial accounts only.
Sensible idea, +1
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Mourn
asde solutions
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Posted - 2011.07.01 01:12:00 -
[23]
+1
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Venorati
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Posted - 2011.07.01 01:58:00 -
[24]
Originally by: Bagehi
If it was only a trial and never activated after a year, it makes sense to toss them in the meat grinder.
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zus
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Posted - 2011.07.01 02:34:00 -
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yes A+++
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Toovhon
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Posted - 2011.07.01 02:38:00 -
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For non-activated accounts over a year old - sure.
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Aineko Macx
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Posted - 2011.07.01 05:49:00 -
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Originally by: Val'Dore
I support this in principle, but it is probably going to be more trouble to implement than it is worth.
Implement? That's a couple of SQL queries to purge the accounts and to clean up the associated data afterwards.
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Adunh Slavy
Ammatar Trade Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.07.01 08:55:00 -
[28]
My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ
We'll watch what you do not what you say.
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Dav Varan
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Posted - 2011.07.01 13:10:00 -
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If those players have interacted with others ( contracts / Kill mails ) there will be broken links in the database.
e.g. You killed a trial account player and got a kill mail to him/her.
ccp deletes the players record.
You kill mail is now broken because it point to a victim who no longer exists.
I support renaming them to [Caldari|Amarr|Minmatar|Gaylentte] Citizen ####### though
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Mila Hetei
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Posted - 2011.07.01 16:31:00 -
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Sounds good.
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Linoa Hiroshi
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Posted - 2011.07.01 17:17:00 -
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+1 for trial account only, older that six month.
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Khamelean
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Posted - 2011.07.01 17:29:00 -
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Originally by: Dav Varan
If those players have interacted with others ( contracts / Kill mails ) there will be broken links in the database.
e.g. You killed a trial account player and got a kill mail to him/her.
ccp deletes the players record.
You kill mail is now broken because it point to a victim who no longer exists.
I support renaming them to [Caldari|Amarr|Minmatar|Gaylentte] Citizen ####### though
Should be no more difficult that if the character was biomass'd.
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Uronksur Suth
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Posted - 2011.07.01 17:30:00 -
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Trial accounts only, yes. But perhaps a time frame longer than six months.
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Praetor Novak
Macabre Votum
Morsus Mihi
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Posted - 2011.07.01 18:15:00 -
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Yes, trials only.
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Hwan Kerr
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Posted - 2011.07.02 20:10:00 -
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+1 Definately. Finding names not already taken is hard enough, make it easier. Remove the dead accounts :)
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Raid'En
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Posted - 2011.07.02 21:29:00 -
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Originally by: Krxon Blade
Yes, but for trial accounts only.
just logged on the profile page of an old mmo i played and my char was still alive after 6 years...
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Lykouleon
Wildly Inappropriate
Wildly Inappropriate.
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Posted - 2011.07.02 22:35:00 -
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Yes, trials only.
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vikari
Serenity Engineering and Transport Company
Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2011.07.02 22:44:00 -
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Actually seems like a win/win situation. Freed up resources for CCP (small as it may be) and increased immersion of the player base into Eve.
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Lord Fuxaton
Minmatar
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2011.07.03 01:55:00 -
[39]
also sex
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killmc
Navajo commandos
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Posted - 2011.07.03 20:23:00 -
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trial accounts only |
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Egilmonsc
Massively Mob
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Posted - 2011.07.04 01:00:00 -
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Supported~
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serrie
Stellar Lancers
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Posted - 2011.07.08 07:57:00 -
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I wonder if these small posts even get a consideration by CSM and CCP |
Elrianmk2
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Posted - 2011.07.08 10:08:00 -
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Was about to rage about this idea when i noticed it was for Trial accounts, maybe amend the header? Providing as has been stated previously "As soon as a Trial account goes active even for a month that account cannot get binned" . I should think that the flag check for Trial is inherently inbuilt into eve and a clean up could be done on an expansion by expansion basis. As i suspect this would be a significant DB hit to do unless it was built into the auto clean up script for items in space. Only drawback with that is it calls a different table and flag, and has no method of calling if the account has been contacted prior to purging with a delay count in order to action the request.
Not a trivial request and potentialy a very high risk proposal but worth doing in the long term given the number of trial accounts that must have existed since Eve started. |
Jykela
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Posted - 2011.07.08 11:12:00 -
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I support the cleaning out of old trial accounts. |
Di Mulle
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Posted - 2011.07.08 19:37:00 -
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Cendric De'Credsiu
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Posted - 2011.07.08 21:05:00 -
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Aye for trial accounts I would say 8 to 10 months old |
Alekseyev Karrde
Noir.
Noir. Mercenary Group
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Posted - 2011.07.09 03:06:00 -
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yup |
Val'Dore
Word Bearers of Chaos
Word of Chaos Undivided
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Posted - 2011.07.09 05:06:00 -
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Originally by: Aineko Macx
Originally by: Val'Dore
I support this in principle, but it is probably going to be more trouble to implement than it is worth.
Implement? That's a couple of SQL queries to purge the accounts and to clean up the associated data afterwards.
Two things:
One, it isn't that simple to erase someone from history in EVE. Even deleted characters are still kept in the database to keep it accurate. Sure a weeker trial who might have only played a day wont really be missed, but is the gain truly worth tampering with the database?
Second, CCP has to make absolutely sure the autowipers don't delete something else. Frankly, it isn't even worth the risk to delete the expired trial accounts. |
Omara Otawan
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Posted - 2011.07.09 05:10:00 -
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Originally by: Val'Dore
Two things:
One, it isn't that simple to erase someone from history in EVE. Even deleted characters are still kept in the database to keep it accurate. Sure a weeker trial who might have only played a day wont really be missed, but is the gain truly worth tampering with the database?
Second, CCP has to make absolutely sure the autowipers don't delete something else. Frankly, it isn't even worth the risk to delete the expired trial accounts.
Pretty much this, as much as it annoys me that a lot of the really funny troll names are already taken and most of them never activated probably... |
Naomi Knight
Amarr
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Posted - 2011.07.09 07:27:00 -
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also remove goons + low sec -10 "pirate" wannabes
oh and huge alliance leaders, alliances should be much more fragmented |
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Dani Leone
How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb
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Posted - 2011.07.09 11:46:00 -
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Lets do this |
Abdiel Kavash
Paladin Order
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.07.09 13:48:00 -
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Also supporting removal of trial accounts which never got activated, 3-6 months after their trial period ends. A trial should be used to try out the game, if you don't like it you shouldn't have the privilege of keeping your name for all of eternity.
However this change must be clearly announced in advance so that people who actually have trial alts holding their names can activate them. Not just "oh hi, we accidentaly all your trial alts". |
Ranka Mei
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Posted - 2011.07.09 14:32:00 -
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/signed... provided it's indeed trial accounts only. |
Minnie miss
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Posted - 2011.07.19 17:45:00 -
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If trial accounts only, yes.
And even then only if member of a NPC corp at the current time.
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Ahaz Darkfall
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Posted - 2011.07.19 19:27:00 -
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where is the button for two thumbs up??
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raker
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Posted - 2011.07.19 20:38:00 -
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If its only unactivated trail accounts, then yes its a good idea
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Voddick
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Posted - 2011.07.23 21:47:00 -
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This is a great idea....a 4 year old never-subbed account has no value to the user that created it OR to CCp. Let active users take those names and Corps.
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Lyrrashae
Crushed Ambitions
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Posted - 2011.07.24 04:20:00 -
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This makes perfect sense, and should be implemented exactly as the OP states.
/Supported.
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Shadow Lord77
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Posted - 2011.07.24 17:38:00 -
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Supported!
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Lakuma
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Posted - 2011.07.24 20:18:00 -
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Trial Accounts should only remain open for 6 months, if even that. They are only trials and thus were free. CCP has always reserved the right to remove ANY accounts that are inactive (though has never done this).
+1 for Trial Accounts Only
Paid accounts should NEVER be deleted except in the case of a banned account. If an account is permanently banned, it should be deleted and wiped as it is only taking up space (and names!) as well as potentially causing harm to the game - such as holding shares in a corporation (now useless).
Free up names and free up space...sounds good to me.
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maya ibuki2
Sick Tight
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.07.24 20:37:00 -
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supportin' dis, because i had a trial 7 years ago that i forgot the username to, and so had to use my char name with "2" at the end like some useless mouth breathing ***got.
itd be even greater if i was somehow allowed to delete the 2 of my character name afterwards.
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Kaelie Onren
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Posted - 2011.07.25 10:34:00 -
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Your problem seems more suited to Features and Requests forum no?
On the other hand, it is ill conceived and not thought out. Your premise is based solely on the 1 case where someone (yourself) forgot a previous account name. You obviously didn't consider anything else besides your inconvenience, such as all the legitimate reasons why keeping dormant accounts around may actually be a benefit.
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foxnod
Brotherhood of the Coast
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Posted - 2011.07.25 14:51:00 -
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+1 for nonactivated trial accounts |
Diesel47
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Posted - 2011.07.25 15:46:00 -
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Trial account only.
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Tore Smith
Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.26 09:38:00 -
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supported! |
Miss Phine
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Posted - 2011.07.26 10:13:00 -
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supporting this |
Inevitability
Red Dawn Mercenaries
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Posted - 2011.07.26 18:01:00 -
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Supporting this! Please get rid of all the OLD INACTIVE and have been inactive for years accounts. Give us the ability to use those old corp tickers again as well.
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Flynn Fetladral
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Posted - 2011.07.26 20:20:00 -
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Burn them alllllll!!!!!!!111! 
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maya ibuki2
Sick Tight
BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.07.27 14:22:00 -
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Originally by: Kaelie Onren
Your problem seems more suited to Features and Requests forum no?
On the other hand, it is ill conceived and not thought out. Your premise is based solely on the 1 case where someone (yourself) forgot a previous account name. You obviously didn't consider anything else besides your inconvenience, such as all the legitimate reasons why keeping dormant accounts around may actually be a benefit.
i dont think you get the bit where the OP is proposing deleting old and unactivated trial accounts. i support this generally, and support it additionally because of my own situation. i dont consider deleting trial accounts that are unused and have been unused for 5 years or more to even possibly inconvenience the modern playerbase.
now ofcourse you are going to explain to me how exactly having several thousand unused trial accounts from ~2006 on database provides any positive's to ccp (except for that sole one where they boast about how many accounts they have) or the playerbase. ofcourse, if you decide not to explain this, kindly gtfo
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David Fightmaster
The Black Legionnares
Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.07.27 15:44:00 -
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I support this proposal. Especially on Trial Accounts. For people that haven't been on awhile and were not trial accounts, maybe a different proposal. I suggest those have their names stripped away from their characters and not deleted. If they decide to come back, they would have to make a new name but not lose assets or skill points. I know a lot of people that just want to take breaks from eve. Just a suggestion on that matter. Trial accounts though, Delete them all.
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Fayetal
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Posted - 2011.08.01 08:22:00 -
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Supported.
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Toovhon
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Posted - 2011.08.01 17:27:00 -
[72]
+1 trial accounts only.
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Niyrah
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Posted - 2011.08.01 17:53:00 -
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With DUST 514 sharing the same namespace this needs to be done sooner rather than later.
+1
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Spartis Reave
Gallente
Applied Creations
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Posted - 2011.08.02 23:23:00 -
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For dormant trials only, with a notification after a suitable time period I agree.
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Ineka
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Posted - 2011.08.03 11:20:00 -
[75]
+1
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Pyth2
Tower of Ravens
The Laughing Men
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Posted - 2011.08.03 17:53:00 -
[76]
Support
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MNagy
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Posted - 2011.08.03 18:13:00 -
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It should happen to all acounts.
If you are dormant for like 2+ years - they should snag the account and if you come back you get a new name or something.
Go buy a car lease and dont pay for it - see what happens.
Someone else will own it in the end, this is no different.
+1 to support your idea - but it should be everyones.
You can always get your stuff back - but just cause you paid 15 bux for 1 month doesnt mean you have rights to something for life.
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Thomas Turnpoint
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Posted - 2011.08.03 18:58:00 -
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Supported for trial accounts.
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Neyuki
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Posted - 2011.08.04 23:16:00 -
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+1 to trial account deletion
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Spy 21
Caldari
Lonetrek Exploration and Salvage
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Posted - 2011.08.05 03:03:00 -
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Edited by: Spy 21 on 05/08/2011 03:03:27
Agree on deleting trials from the database... but does that mean your kill/loss history would contain entries like "victim: Unknown"
On a related topic, would also like to see a message sent to corp CEO anytime a member lets their account go inactive.
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serrie
Stellar Lancers
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Posted - 2011.08.10 13:29:00 -
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bump to revive this post.
CCP, for the love of money...for Greed being good....release the names held up in these dead accounts...the sales forum alone is screaming for DECENT NAMES!!
Think of all that extra revenue if you charged $10 for a name change!
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Aramis Rosicrux
Ordo Rosa Crux Templaris
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Posted - 2011.08.10 21:25:00 -
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Support for trial accounts only and a 30 day notification sent to last known email addy.
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Krakaan Byzantia
Bolt Action Drive by
The Imperial Senate
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Posted - 2011.08.12 18:57:00 -
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Actually, a cleansing fire of trial accounts... not a bad idea.
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Ressiv
Massive PVPness
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Posted - 2011.08.29 16:42:00 -
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Edited by: Ressiv on 29/08/2011 16:43:18
+1 for trial accounts only, including 30-day email warning to registered email address.
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Ab'Synth
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Posted - 2011.08.31 15:58:00 -
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supported |
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