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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Super-Best-Friends
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Posted - 2011.06.30 21:23:00 -
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... how would one go about finding targets (pvp ofc) that don't end up blobbing you with 20+ people. I sometimes enjoy getting wtfowned but if it's a semi-balanced fight; 2v1 or 3v1. Uncloaking and getting alphad by 20 canes is just no fun.
So I'm wondering. I'm the type of person that did it the proper way too. I used to have an alt with cov ops that scouted ahead. I used to ask around for intel.
But now i got a job and life. Yeah it sucks but when i come home all i want to do is roam for 2-3 hours, alone or with 1-2 friends, but mostly alone, and get some fights. I don't mind losing but i wanna lose in more than 10 seconds.
So any ideeas? Where should i go, what should i do where i am most likely to run into few people and not a 30 man -10.0 blob chasing you cuz they got no kills in the past 5 hrs. I know its not a 100 percent shot and i might get blobbed anywhere but i want the least possible path.
Thank you for any ideeas you might give me.
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Michelson Morley
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Posted - 2011.06.30 23:20:00 -
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I'm hardly a PvP expert, but I think the keys are local, local and local. If you're in a lowsec system with 20 people in it... beware. Check their info and see if they're in the same corp. If you see 3+ of a corp in the same system, then they are probably working together so you might want to try another area. The majority of lowsec places I've encountered generally don't have a ton of people in them. You probably want to avoid FW hotspots, because a lot of traffic goes through there, most somewhat organized.
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Roosterton
Internet SpaceCraft Raiding Fleet
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Posted - 2011.06.30 23:36:00 -
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Edited by: Roosterton on 30/06/2011 23:37:00 Building on what the first guy said, the three keys are:
Local: Before engaging someone, tag them with "bad standings" so that you can see who else is in their corp/alliance based on if they have an orange tag next to their name. If they have 20 corpies in local, you'll not want to attack. If local spikes (gets drastically bigger) just after you engage, you know it's a trap and will want to try and pull back if you don't think you can win.
Directional Scanner: ALWAYS have this open and spam it while PVPing, at a 360 degree angle and max range. If the makeup of d-scan changes while you are fighting, expect it to be because those ships are warping to you to kill you. If you think you can handle those ships, go ahead and keep on fighting, but if you can't, pull out as best as you can.
Experience: Quite simply knowing what's what. Maller solo ratting in lowsec? He's tanked to 70k ehp and baiting for you. Frigate scrambling you at a belt? He's tackling for a larger fleet. 2003 player flying an Arazu? He'll pop a cyno and bring in carriers on your head. Of course, it varies depending on the circumstance, and you'll learn most of this just through trial and error. -------- Enemy corps raided into disbandment: Three.
Originally by: Tarminic
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King Rothgar
Path of the Fallen
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Posted - 2011.07.01 00:25:00 -
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I mostly stick to solo pvp these days and I do pretty well with it. Information is the key. Know the area, know the locals, know what's in the systems around you and of course know the capabilities of what you're wanting to attack. With experience, baits will become pretty obvious. It's not something I can really explain, it's more instinctive but it's a learned instinct. You'll just know a bait when you see it eventually. You shouldn't ever run into a gate camp with a scout alt, so it sounds like you've got that covered.
Of course, the best method to avoiding blobs is to just not draw the attention of the blobs and make yourself virtually unblobbable in the first place. How you do that is you stick to fast ranged hulls. Keep your distance so they can't get a hard tackle on you. Without that hard tackle, even if they keep a long point you could be 50-100km away from the starting point by the time all their buddies land on grid. That will typically put them far outside of range but too close to mini-warp over. This effectively keeps it a 1v1 even if they have 10 more friends on grid.
Even better is using something with absolute range dictation so you can withdraw at will. Recons are a prime example of this. In a 1v1, very few ships can keep a curse pinned down. So even if it is a bait, you'll escape before his buddies land if you watch for the local spike. The tackle recons are even better about this, the arazu/rapier really have no reason to come within 24km of a target and should be able to simply kite away at will.
Non-recon options include the vagabond/cynabal and nano-cane. These ships are fast enough so that they can typically retreat but pack a bit more dps than the recons. But the recons are safer. Another option is just to run with cheap hulls that no one is going to bother trying to blob. An MSB jaguar can solo basically anything short of a drake or active tanked myrmidon, 20x BC's with logi aren't going to waste their time trying to catch one of those. It's also easier to get willing opponents who aren't going to blob you in smaller ships. So the jag has a big advantage there as being only a lowly AF. The same can be done with t1 cruisers like the ruppy and shiny new maller hull. They are more vulnerable to baits than the kiting stuff but from a cost effective standpoint, it's a good option.
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Miss Rabblt
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Posted - 2011.07.01 12:56:00 -
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load SiSi client and call someone to fight. You will not need to roam.
I would enjoy some pvp fun on SiSi.
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Typecast
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Posted - 2011.07.01 14:28:00 -
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I never understood why none of the stations you can dock in have any windows.
What should you do if you undock into a blob? hit CTRL-Space to stop (do not mouse click to stop - they'll be able to target you then) so that you don't fly past the docking point. Wait for session change timer to expire (the circle thing swirling at top left of screen) and then mash your dock button. They shouldn't be able to lock you until session change timer ends, so you should be fine.
I'd try it with a buddy though, just to see how it works.
For other kinds of blobs - good luck!
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.07.01 15:50:00 -
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Fight your alts?
Its all about location. Find an area where the people who live there don't have to travel in 20 man gangs. You'll never remove the risk of that happening, but picking a decent area to PvP in will help with the blobbing issue.
FW areas that aren't Tama, Auga, Amamake, Old Man Star tend to have decent activity
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Drykor
Minmatar Aperture Harmonics K162
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Posted - 2011.07.01 16:17:00 -
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Wormhole space is relatively unpopulated and doesn't tend to have huge gangs. I'd try my luck there. --- Drykor - AHARM |
jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.07.01 18:14:00 -
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Best way I found outside of arranged fights was this:
Join FW and go in a fw plex. Move away from the rats and the warp in to the plex. Do this in a busy system or one with allot of wts. Hopefully someon will come in. They will not be able to warp on top of you if you move away from the warp in so you will have time to kill or get away from whatever you are fighting.
But that said you are looking at about 1 decent fight per 2 hours of waiting/warping around.
IMO Eve just doesn't offer enough action for the amount of time you have to spend playing it.
Wormholes are a bad place to go solo for pvp. No local means you will get blobbed over and over. Plus there is very very little pvp there.
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Jude Lloyd
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Posted - 2011.07.01 19:30:00 -
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http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1541045&page=1
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Shane Roderick
Gallente Hard Rock Mining Co. The Jagged Alliance
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Posted - 2011.07.02 00:14:00 -
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Edited by: Shane Roderick on 02/07/2011 00:15:05 Am i the only one who doesn't have trouble finding 2v2 or 5v5 or 10v10 battles?
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Qulticaret Pic
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Posted - 2011.07.02 06:26:00 -
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You could also try joining red versus blue.
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2ippy
Amarr Nova Ardour
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Posted - 2011.07.02 10:00:00 -
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Originally by: Qulticaret Pic You could also try joining red versus blue.
It's really starting to annoy me, having to read this in every single thread. Do you realise the major difference between RvB ***s and lowsec/0.0 soloroams?
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Bogdan Prie
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Posted - 2011.07.02 12:44:00 -
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WTF is RVB and can you make them miserable in any way? lol
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I likegirls
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.03 00:36:00 -
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I go out with alts and try to 1v1. I just light a cyno and bridge in a 50 man fleet when they blob me
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Ira Astrum
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Posted - 2011.07.03 03:00:00 -
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My way of dealing with the possibility of getting blobbed is to fly a fast and nimble ship. You can engage pretty much whatever you want and disengage when 'le blob' arrives.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Super-Best-Friends
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Posted - 2011.07.03 15:56:00 -
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I used to fly fast ships but i let them go because they feel "gimped". If you nano up a cruiser for example... what's there left if you find a lone ferox for example.
I would engage a BC in a cruiser if i were sure it was alone and had the cruiser properly PVP fitted. I have the feeling that with nano set ups you can't even break most tanks.
Am I wrong tho?
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vorneus
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Posted - 2011.07.03 16:19:00 -
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Originally by: Coffe's Babe I used to fly fast ships but i let them go because they feel "gimped". If you nano up a cruiser for example... what's there left if you find a lone ferox for example.
I would engage a BC in a cruiser if i were sure it was alone and had the cruiser properly PVP fitted. I have the feeling that with nano set ups you can't even break most tanks.
Am I wrong tho?
You are indeed wrong. Some ships work much better being shield/nano fit, and it affords them (usually) extra DPS by using lows for tracking enhancers and damage mods.
I killed a HAM drake on Sisi in a nano shield rupture once. That was perhaps an extreme example, but it's still possible to do, you just have to choose your fights carefully and get the hell out if things go wrong.
-Ed
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Super-Best-Friends
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Posted - 2011.07.03 16:51:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 03/07/2011 16:51:41 I only fly Caldari at the moment. I got 70m specialized in that. Just started training Minmatar, gonna be properly skilled in 3-4 months. Till then what do i do only with Caldari?
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Angus's Babe
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Posted - 2011.07.03 18:40:00 -
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ello coffe
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Nak hak
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Posted - 2011.07.03 23:31:00 -
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Red Vs Blue (RvB) for PvP fun!
In EVE Online, there's are 2 types of players. PvP'ers(Wolfs) & PvE'ers(Pork Chops). Probe them out and kill them.
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Patient 2428190
DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School
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Posted - 2011.07.04 03:40:00 -
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Originally by: Bogdan Prie WTF is RVB and can you make them miserable in any way? lol
A bunch of people in T1 frigates and cruisers shooting their wardec'd buddies. Its probably the easiest group in EVE to get crying their eyes out about something.
Ways to get them crying: Show up in a Destoyer in a frigate fight, bring an extra guy than your enemy, use logistics, shoot the stupid people who haul during the war, have HG slaves, use T2 mods, have more skillpoints than your enemy, don't accept convos from the other side's FC
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King Rothgar
Path of the Fallen
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Posted - 2011.07.04 04:46:00 -
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Originally by: Coffe's Babe Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 03/07/2011 16:51:41 I only fly Caldari at the moment. I got 70m specialized in that. Just started training Minmatar, gonna be properly skilled in 3-4 months. Till then what do i do only with Caldari?
The cerb is pretty decent for solo, just keep your distance. It works best with a faction point and skirmish links so you can take full advantage of those 40km + HAM's. A completely ordinary caracal isn't half bad either. Throw AML's on there and you shouldn't have too much trouble killing idiots with frigates or doing kiting nastiness with other shorter ranged cruiser/BC hulls. The rook is a decent enough solo boat too. Not as good as a curse at it but workable still.
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NoLimit Soldier
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Posted - 2011.07.06 20:49:00 -
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Originally by: Patient 2428190
Originally by: Bogdan Prie WTF is RVB and can you make them miserable in any way? lol
A bunch of people in T1 frigates and cruisers shooting their wardec'd buddies. Its probably the easiest group in EVE to get crying their eyes out about something.
Ways to get them crying: Show up in a Destoyer in a frigate fight, bring an extra guy than your enemy, use logistics, shoot the stupid people who haul during the war, have HG slaves, use T2 mods, have more skillpoints than your enemy, don't accept convos from the other side's FC
Also you can call the "girl" in RvB an E-tranny, that got me banned lol :)
They really do cry and whine about EVERYTHING.
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Meditril
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Posted - 2011.07.07 16:42:00 -
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Faction Warefare is definately a place you can find some small scale engagement. Plexes or missions are a perfect location for this because they hinder the blob to warp to his friends which have baited you.
Unfortunatelly the only way to avoid the blob is going cloaky or going nano if you want to roam around. However, in populated faction warefare systems you can naturally also decide to be "stadionary" which widens your opportunities.
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jackaloped
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Posted - 2011.07.08 19:12:00 -
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RvB is your best chance of getting more than one good fight per 2 hours of waiting. But most of these fights will be arranged fights.
FW is then your best bet and if you do what I describe you should average about 1 good fight every 2 hours.
Good luck. This is the reason I am unsubbing until they fix fw. As it exists now Eve is a very slow game for people with allot of time on their hands. Someday ccp will figure out people want more action and less waiting around looking at the door. |
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