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FeralShadow NME1	Posted - 2011.07.02 19:59:00 - [1] Edited by: FeralShadow on 02/07/2011 20:00:50 Edited by: FeralShadow on 02/07/2011 20:00:22 Linkage New bill in congress that prevents showing copywrited material on the internet. It's meant to prevent people from uploading movies/tv shows/free music on the internet. The way it's worded will outlaw uploading videos of Internet Games (Eve Online possibly, though they're in Iceland so I'm not sure) as well, and will make it a FELONY to upload videos of the games! Preventing videos of video games of being posted on the internet will hurt the gaming industry as a whole. The bill needs to be reworded. This bill is in the very earliest stages of becoming law, but our opinions need to be heard. Oops sorry I think this is in the wrong forum section ;) _______________________________________________ "If you want to taste the ground, feel free to attack." - Kenshin Himura
Zakarazor Amarr Inadeptus Mechanicus	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:00:00 - [2] Originally by: FeralShadow Linkage New bill in congress that prevents showing copywrited material on the internet. It's meant to prevent people from uploading movies/tv shows/free music on the internet. The way it's worded will outlaw uploading videos of Internet Games (Eve Online possibly, though they're in Iceland so I'm not sure) as well, and will make it a FELONY to upload videos of the games! Preventing videos of video games of being posted on the internet will hurt the gaming industry as a whole. The bill needs to be reworded. This bill is in the very earliest stages of becoming law, but our opinions need to be heard. To late, i have already made a post about this in OOG. http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1544524
Adunh Slavy Ammatar Trade Syndicate	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:00:00 - [3] Sadly we can not konga line congress My faith in CCP will return SoonÖ We'll watch what you do not what you say.
Troy LS	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:03:00 - [4] I don't think they'd take too kindly to a few dozen battleships dancing around the capitol building.
Fix Lag	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:03:00 - [5] Which monument are we all going to fire at this time? Fix Lag!
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:05:00 - [6] oh look a law that wont be enforced. i highly doubt any person will follow it, at most it gives websites like youtube and facebook the authority to close accounts and remove videos and stuff at any time they want. however if i upload a video of my awesome suicide gank, i doubt it will go away
Rebbecca Black	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:09:00 - [7] Another US law written by corporations and mouthpieced by politicians.. Nothing to see here, move along.
Tzarkan Tzeench	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:12:00 - [8] Originally by: Herping yourDerp oh look a law that wont be enforced. i highly doubt any person will follow it, at most it gives websites like youtube and facebook the authority to close accounts and remove videos and stuff at any time they want. however if i upload a video of my awesome suicide gank, i doubt it will go away except it would make uploading an EVE Online video a felony in the US unless you have express permission to do so from CCP, would you want to risk uploading a video without that permission if a 5 year jail sentence hangs over your head if they decide they, or someone in the justice department doesn't like you?
Reicine Ceer Rodents of Unusual Size	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:21:00 - [9] Disgusted. I think we can all see where this is heading. -- You're a stark example of just what is wrong with the youth of today. I wish your parents had the presence of mind to have you recycled into a nutrient soup with which to feed the elderly.
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:29:00 - [10] Originally by: Tzarkan Tzeench Originally by: Herping yourDerp oh look a law that wont be enforced. i highly doubt any person will follow it, at most it gives websites like youtube and facebook the authority to close accounts and remove videos and stuff at any time they want. however if i upload a video of my awesome suicide gank, i doubt it will go away except it would make uploading an EVE Online video a felony in the US unless you have express permission to do so from CCP, would you want to risk uploading a video without that permission if a 5 year jail sentence hangs over your head if they decide they, or someone in the justice department doesn't like you? i downloaded starcraft 1 and 2, homeworld 1 and 2, 100 gigs of music 10 new movies and used to download all my xbox 360 games..... yes i'l risk it, because its ******ed and is considered an annouance crime and they will only do anything if you try to profit yourself or your a moron and download 500GB of new movies and music in a day. believe it or not the law is pretty nice on internet crime, as long as children are safe and people arnt losing much. also, it hasnt be passed yet has it? laws in the US take time to even get considered, osamabama might also veto it.

fgft Athonille	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:35:00 - [11] people who pirate copyrighted material should have a flagpole shoved up their a nus, they should be made infertile to stop the stupid from spreading and fined of all their worldly possessions that is all Originally by: Skippermonkey keep trying and you can be an hero just like fgft Athonille Originally by: Singeaboot Raj Tbh i am beginning to see the win - it's the haircut, makes people take notice.
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:42:00 - [12] Originally by: fgft Athonille people who pirate copyrighted material should have a flagpole shoved up their a nus, they should be made infertile to stop the stupid from spreading and fined of all their worldly possessions that is all really cause you cant rent, or try out PC games unless there is a demo or trial, at the time the only way to get a demo/trial was to buy the game. starcraft 1 is hard to find in stores, pirate it play single player delete starcraft 2 was impossible to get when i got it... played single player, delete homeworld 1 nad 2 are pretty much impossible to get , pirate it play me vs AI delete, well i had homeworld 2 at one time, so its not really pirating it... xbox games i did were all garbage games that didnt deserve to be released in the first place, basically i just midigated block buster or gamefly MS banned my console as i expected but you know, i expected it, and it was worth it. the "piracy/hacker" community in the end usually helps out developers, do u have any idea how many of my friends got batman arkam asylum after i pirated it? i told them it was THE BEST batman game ever, so my free copy gave them 5 more sales + 2 rentals from gamefly.. i liked starcraft 2 singleplayer, when my friends got the real game i decided i'd join them for multiplayer, so in the end i bought that too, piracy is a good thing when it isn't rampant
crymyname	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:42:00 - [13] LOL you guys lost your rights a few yrs ago ..as soon as you let lobbying /buying of your politicians.. then you had bush crash a few planes and you gave the rest away .... lol
fgft Athonille	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:44:00 - [14] Originally by: Herping yourDerp Originally by: fgft Athonille people who pirate copyrighted material should have a flagpole shoved up their a nus, they should be made infertile to stop the stupid from spreading and fined of all their worldly possessions that is all really cause you cant rent, or try out PC games unless there is a demo or trial, at the time the only way to get a demo/trial was to buy the game. starcraft 1 is hard to find in stores, pirate it play single player delete starcraft 2 was impossible to get when i got it... played single player, delete homeworld 1 nad 2 are pretty much impossible to get , pirate it play me vs AI delete, well i had homeworld 2 at one time, so its not really pirating it... xbox games i did were all garbage games that didnt deserve to be released in the first place, basically i just midigated block buster or gamefly MS banned my console as i expected but you know, i expected it, and it was worth it. the "piracy/hacker" community in the end usually helps out developers, do u have any idea how many of my friends got batman arkam asylum after i pirated it? i told them it was THE BEST batman game ever, so my free copy gave them 5 more sales + 2 rentals from gamefly.. i liked starcraft 2 singleplayer, when my friends got the real game i decided i'd join them for multiplayer, so in the end i bought that too, piracy is a good thing when it isn't rampant its never good. people feed their families and raise their children with that income and they need it they are creative and they are making the world a better place for entertainment. buy it and support their work or fvck yourself. nobody pirates something for a free demo and later buys it. thats just bull they say to rationalize theft to themselves Originally by: Skippermonkey keep trying and you can be an hero just like fgft Athonille Originally by: Singeaboot Raj Tbh i am beginning to see the win - it's the haircut, makes people take notice.
Van Muchbetterer Minmatar EVE University	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:46:00 - [15] Edited by: Van Muchbetterer on 02/07/2011 20:46:13 I'm amused that nobody had posted this vidoe yet: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZLsJyfN0ICU
Arita Shion	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:48:00 - [16] Edited by: Arita Shion on 02/07/2011 20:48:26 Originally by: fgft Athonille its never good. people feed their families and raise their children with that income and they need it they are creative and they are making the world a better place for entertainment. buy it and support their work or fvck yourself. nobody pirates something for a free demo and later buys it. thats just bull they say to rationalize theft to themselves Shows how much you know. I've bought music and videos that I have previously pirated, provided it's worth the money. So your point is moot.
Jade Imp Caldari M. Corp -Mostly Harmless-	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:49:00 - [17] Edited by: Jade Imp on 02/07/2011 20:50:06 The second time i pirated anything video game related was the Frozen Throne. I got a letter 2 weeks later from Comcast and from Blizzard. Blizzard's said stop basicly. Comcast's said "do it again and we cut your account off." needless to say i havent uh, torrented a game since. Edit: I have also pirated games and later bought them when i found how good they were. _______________________________________________ I'd have something witty here but my wits have left me for my alt.
fgft Athonille	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:51:00 - [18] Originally by: Arita Shion Edited by: Arita Shion on 02/07/2011 20:48:26 Originally by: fgft Athonille its never good. people feed their families and raise their children with that income and they need it they are creative and they are making the world a better place for entertainment. buy it and support their work or fvck yourself. nobody pirates something for a free demo and later buys it. thats just bull they say to rationalize theft to themselves Shows how much you know. I've bought music and videos that I have previously pirated, provided it's worth the money. So your point is moot. some of them maybe, not all of them jack a ss its like saying its okay i shoplifted booze because i buy every fourth bottle i stole. Originally by: Skippermonkey keep trying and you can be an hero just like fgft Athonille Originally by: Singeaboot Raj Tbh i am beginning to see the win - it's the haircut, makes people take notice.
Herping yourDerp	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:53:00 - [19] piracy is more like a rental for games. and in fact its a pain to pirate anything at least IMO, ( then again all pc games are pain in the asses to play in general) but music? "i like this song guys its new from so and so, listen to it" im sure some buy it on itunes or something movies? "wow this movie is awsome its called such and such," i'm sure someone will at least netflix it, if not buy or rent... movies are normally something to avoid buying anyways games? well 90% of pirated games don't work online, so its the SP expierience usually for a game designed for epic multiplayer, like starcraft, good single player, but mp is what people want... tried it, liked it, bought it later. IN FACT, when u torrent a 360 game and look at the .info, it usually says "if you like the game, support the developer and buy it new" did that for Forza 3, Dragon age origins, but halo ODST sucked, didnt buy that one..
Patient 2428190 DEGRREE'Fo'FREE Internet Business School	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:55:00 - [20] Originally by: fgft Athonille its like saying its okay i shoplifted booze because i buy every fourth bottle i stole. This is the smartest thing you'll ever say to be honest ...Then when you stopped to think about it. All you really said was Lalala.

Tsukimaru Amarr 104th Ranger Mobile Combat Regiment Fatal Ascension	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:55:00 - [21] Edited by: Tsukimaru on 02/07/2011 20:55:32 Originally by: fgft Athonille Originally by: Arita Shion Edited by: Arita Shion on 02/07/2011 20:48:26 Originally by: fgft Athonille its never good. people feed their families and raise their children with that income and they need it they are creative and they are making the world a better place for entertainment. buy it and support their work or fvck yourself. nobody pirates something for a free demo and later buys it. thats just bull they say to rationalize theft to themselves Shows how much you know. I've bought music and videos that I have previously pirated, provided it's worth the money. So your point is moot. some of them maybe, not all of them jack a ss its like saying its okay i shoplifted booze because i buy every fourth bottle i stole. By all means, buy every piece of garbage that gets released and pay the premium.
Dren Nas Caldari	Posted - 2011.07.02 20:59:00 - [22] Edited by: Dren Nas on 02/07/2011 21:01:06 Edited by: Dren Nas on 02/07/2011 20:59:55 Originally by: fgft Athonille its never good. people feed their families and raise their children with that income and they need it they are creative and they are making the world a better place for entertainment. buy it and support their work or fvck yourself. nobody pirates something for a free demo and later buys it. thats just bull they say to rationalize theft to themselves You are wrong. I've pirated things as a trial to see whether or not it's worth buying. Music, movies, and games fall under this list. If the game is bad, I delete it. If it's good, I buy it, so I can keep up with dlc and the like. The way I see it, this is a counter to the mass production of terribly short and poorly made games that we do see a good bit now days. Don't forget that you never own the game, and the company can revoke your "right" to use their game at any point they feel like. I believe that video game companies are already too powerful in this respect. We need to either own games we as consumers purchase with the right to transfer the game to others, or companies need to do a better job of making people understand that only the company owns the game. Consider this, companies are mass producing "DLC" that they could easy implement in the game in order to make a few more bucks off people. EA has said thet they plan to charge people $10 USD if they buy their madden games used in order to play online. EDIT fixed a typo.
Arita Shion	Posted - 2011.07.02 21:02:00 - [23] Originally by: fgft Athonille Originally by: Arita Shion Edited by: Arita Shion on 02/07/2011 20:48:26 Originally by: fgft Athonille its never good. people feed their families and raise their children with that income and they need it they are creative and they are making the world a better place for entertainment. buy it and support their work or fvck yourself. nobody pirates something for a free demo and later buys it. thats just bull they say to rationalize theft to themselves Shows how much you know. I've bought music and videos that I have previously pirated, provided it's worth the money. So your point is moot. some of them maybe, not all of them jack a ss its like saying its okay i shoplifted booze because i buy every fourth bottle i stole. It's more like stealing all the pee beer like Budweiser, and only buying the good stuff like Guinness.
Ianus Caldari Geminus Gateway	Posted - 2011.07.02 21:08:00 - [24] I want 90's America back.
Dren Nas Caldari	Posted - 2011.07.02 21:45:00 - [25] well, I emailed my senators. Maybe they'll look into it.
Anna Maziarczyk	Posted - 2011.07.02 22:11:00 - [26] Edited by: Anna Maziarczyk on 02/07/2011 22:15:47 Originally by: fgft Athonille people who pirate copyrighted material should have a flagpole shoved up their a nus, they should be made infertile to stop the stupid from spreading and fined of all their worldly possessions that is all And buried right next to everyone involved in "NO REFUND on Software, Movies, Music" policies. Zero love lost.
cuoredipietra famedoro	Posted - 2011.07.02 22:22:00 - [27] Good July 4th to all Americans. The only place in the world where living a normal life likely lands you in jail or gets you sued. We'll spam youtube with copyrighted materials on your behalf. Saludos from Europe
Toawa EVE Mercantile Exchange Virtue of Selfishness	Posted - 2011.07.02 22:28:00 - [28] This is not the first time they've tried to pass a bill like this, and it won't be the last. I doubt it'll get past this Congress, though there's always the next one. But I think that this Congress, like the last one, will see what this bill really is (the big content companies trying to unload the cost of their legal departments onto the DOJ) and said big content companies have not (yet) bought enough Senators and Representatives to actually get this bill through...
Sarmatiko	Posted - 2011.07.02 22:39:00 - [29] Edited by: Sarmatiko on 02/07/2011 22:40:03 Originally by: cuoredipietra famedoro Good July 4th to all Americans. The only place in the world where living a normal life likely lands you in jail or gets you sued. We'll spam youtube with copyrighted materials on your behalf. Saludos from Europe this^ US = Caldari state. I wonder why Texas Republic accepted annexation proposal from that pesky states, we would have much more fun nowadays with "European Union-like" America. also ibtl
Paladia Haberdash	Posted - 2011.07.02 22:41:00 - [30] Is it just me or is the US getting closer and closer to being like North Korea and there whole internet sensor-ship, among other things.



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