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Carai an'Caldazar
Amarr
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.07.08 14:34:00 -
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Edited by: Carai an''Caldazar on 08/07/2011 14:36:12
How is immersion into the EVE universe supposed to be kept when a single article of (dare I say common) clothing costs, for all intents and purposes, more than a Faction Battleship?
Completely ignoring the RL money issue here, and just focusing on the ISK aspect.
Seems somewhat silly in a virtual universe, to completely break immersion in this way.
Just my thoughts...  |
Ketaros Thunderclap
Warrioth Clan
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Posted - 2011.07.08 14:39:00 -
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Exacly Carai!
Thats why I said: if CCP wants money, stop RIGHT now with any connection between ISK and Real Money.
All other ideas mixing and messing with those two universes, real and Eden, will make things WORST.
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Sister Bliss
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.07.08 14:40:00 -
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Good to see you prioritising assigning resources to the things in eve that really matter! Well done CCP on continuing to ignore the playerbase and waste our subscription revenue! Your lead game designer needs to be sacked. |
Cailais
Amarr
Dawn of a new Empire
The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.07.08 14:41:00 -
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 Originally by: Carai an'Caldazar
Edited by: Carai an''Caldazar on 08/07/2011 14:36:12
How is immersion into the EVE universe supposed to be kept when a single article of (dare I say common) clothing costs, for all intents and purposes, more than a Faction Battleship?
Completely ignoring the RL money issue here, and just focusing on the ISK aspect.
Seems somewhat silly in a virtual universe, to completely break immersion in this way.
Just my thoughts...
You're quite right there Carai, it will break immersion but you're perhaps missing a fundamental point in this exercise from CCP in that its sole intention is to...
MAKE LOADSA MONEY!!!!!!
C. |
Auric Aurumfinger
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Posted - 2011.07.08 14:44:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Zinfandel
It takes a lot more work to be able to make a system where the players can make the goods. We will do it. We want that very much. But it's going to take time. All of these goods are going to be a lot more fun if they are being made by players.
Indeed. Instead of selling the clothes coming from CCP NPCs, would be awesome to buy "Designs" the clothing blueprints.
Players would then have to procure the materials to manufacture them with a supply chain that involves both space and planetary interaction.
This could evolve into integrating the Dust 514 economy with EVE's.
That would be the EVE way to do it. The whole gold store seems silly, like Maple Story. |
Auric Aurumfinger
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Posted - 2011.07.08 14:46:00 -
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Originally by: Carai an'Caldazar
Edited by: Carai an''Caldazar on 08/07/2011 14:36:12
How is immersion into the EVE universe supposed to be kept when a single article of (dare I say common) clothing costs, for all intents and purposes, more than a Faction Battleship?
Completely ignoring the RL money issue here, and just focusing on the ISK aspect.
Seems somewhat silly in a virtual universe, to completely break immersion in this way.
Just my thoughts...
Agree. Clothing will cost more than fully fitted faction BS with faction everything. |
Auric Aurumfinger
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Posted - 2011.07.08 14:49:00 -
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How about new ship designs? Don't you dare sell a Stabber in full golden glory. It will look like a flying dildo.
How about more spaceship science fiction and less space dolls? |
Jag'Deo
Gallente
Funky Chill Collective
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Posted - 2011.07.08 14:53:00 -
[218]
LOL CCP you are dumb |
Dierdra Vaal
Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2011.07.08 14:55:00 -
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Quote:
If you are currently wearing an outfit, it is effectively indestructible so put it on before you leave if you're making your purchase at a well-traveled market hub like Jita.
How does this work? EVE canon tells us we're naked in our pod. This is told in chronicles, eve novels and the trailer where a capsuleer leaves his pod.
So how do you justify/explain my clothes magically traveling with me - even after being podded (and losing normal implants but somehow magically not losing a monocle implant)? |
LC Sulla
Caldari
House Mekarae
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Posted - 2011.07.08 14:56:00 -
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I just can't get my head around why you (CCP) insist on calling these thing 'microtransactions'. You don't call a 1 month subscription a micro-transaction because it's a macro-transaction (15 Euro).
If the cheapest tier (admittedly a whole outfit) will be equivalent to a single PLEX then there is no micro about it. Why not throw out a ton of low tier vanity items for, say, a buck then more people might use it.
I personally think it's an odd business decision to start at the top (i.e. expensive) then be forced work your way down rather than start at the bottom with real MICRO-transactions then work your way up.
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Celeste Benal
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Posted - 2011.07.08 14:57:00 -
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Originally by: Aineko Macx
Your pricing is still off by two orders of magnitude.
Lower the prices substantially, and make the vanity items dropable & destroyable AND show on the kill mails. That would be 100% more eve-like.
^this. All of this. I was just thinking to myself that CCP could either increase the amount of Aur given per PLEX or drop some prices by 2-3x.
I actually like the look of some of the outfits in the NeX store. |
Ryas Nia
Minmatar
Veto.
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Posted - 2011.07.08 14:58:00 -
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your NEX items are breaking eve game play because they are not destructible, they need to be like implants and explode with your clone.
Teir 1 = $1-$2 an item
Teir 2 = $3-$4 an item
Teir 3 = $5+ an item
if they blow up then you will make far far more in the long haul as people will buy the same outfit more than once, at best your going to get $20 per 100 accounts (notice i did not say people) once a year with your current pricing and the fact that clothing does not explode.
Zinfandel, you should quit, you dont get Eve, or go work on WOD your pricing and fashion taste makes more sense there. Eve is hyper capitalism and there is no such thing as persistent objects (other than stations which needs to change too :P ) |
Smagd
Encina Technologies
Namtz' aar K'in
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Posted - 2011.07.08 14:59:00 -
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Lol.
Reading these Dev Blogs starts to amuse me in the same way old Godzilla movies amuse me. |
Juggalo Stazz
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:02:00 -
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I can give a crap about what goes into the Nex store. The only thing I never want to see is a splash screen or a site update saying "Down time has been extended do to issues with stocking items in the Nex store" or anything to that effect. |
Zarnak Wulf
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:06:00 -
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I'd prefer that CCP spends more of it's time balancing ships. Unless of course they make some Red Baron fighter goggles. I probably couldn't resist those... |
Celeste Benal
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:09:00 -
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Originally by: Zagdul
if they had released the lower tier first on the Incarna release, a metric fu%Kton of PLEX's would have been cashed in for AUR and the market would have literally crashed.
You don't understand markets at all. A sudden increase in demand (cashing in) of PLEX would have resulted in a drop in supply, thus increasing PLEX prices for isk. That is not a crash.
Personally, I was kind of hoping there would be a huge sudden bubble. I would have bought some PLEX and put them on the market. |
Gnulpie
Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:11:00 -
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Why does the preview of NeX' items takes insane long times to load? This is NO fun at all.
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SwissChris1
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:13:00 -
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Stop making clothes and continue making ship re-designs! Seriously, it's been over a year since the new Scorpion model was released...now we got the Maller...time to give people what they REALLY want! |
Palovana
Caldari
Inner Fire Inc.
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:18:00 -
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CBA to read through the whole thread, only read the devblog and blue posts.
The default clothes cover my naughty bits just fine.
What's next CCP? Removing the clock from the bottom of the screen and letting us buy virtual watches for Aurum?
I couldn't care less about buying any of this stuff.
Enough of this posterior-oriented haberdashery! Stop trying to milk me for more $, my nipples hurt! Grumpy old men don't give milk! |
Dodgy Past
Amarr
Digital Fury Corporation
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:24:00 -
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Edited by: Dodgy Past on 08/07/2011 15:26:24
Suddenly PLEX has gone from a necessary evil to combat RMT to CCP actively promoting it as their own 'official' form of RMT. ( Encouraging people to buy PLEX, convert to Aurum, buy stuff then put on the market )
Why would anyone want to go through the effort re-establish an emotional connection with this game.
That's even before the fact that non-vanity items are so obviously on the way since the only reason it would be difficult to classify them would be if you want an excuse to sell some non-vanity items and argue that they are for vanity.
Whta bemuses me is Eve is the 2nd most succesfful MMO to ever be produced, the original model has worked extremely well and the only thing holding it back is bitterness at neglected features preventing more people recommending the game to others.
So you'd think the obvious thing would to to fix the obvious thing would be to work on the obvious flaws, not introduce MT and through the baby out with the bathwater. |
Celgar Thurn
Minmatar
You Need It
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:24:00 -
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Most people will get miles more enjoyment from spending ú15 on a plex, selling it for ISK, and spending that on ships,bpc's,modules etc than on one 'affordable' uniform.
You have no idea on the pricing whatsoever. I would suggest one plex (ú15) would buy a complete uniform,or four separate pieces for those who wished to 'mix n match',of the highest quality/rarest designs of clothing.The affordable would probably be priced at quarter or third of one plex ( ú4 to ú5.) for a complete uniform or four separate pieces.
Better designs need to be made. Distinctive racial military uniforms for each four races need to be made. Other ranges of clothing coul be brought out such as industrial/mining clothing, 'business/trading' style designs, and mercenary/pirate influenced designs.
The basic principle of the Nex store and Aurum is sound but it has been very poorly implemented and I fear without drastic changes it will fail miserably and have a negative effect on the EVE universe. |
Asta Ddu
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:25:00 -
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What on earth are CCP thinking, cheap clothes costing more than a Battleship!!!
Get a grip on reality, stop adding stuff that doesnt affect the game and put people on to fixing bugs, some of which are as old as the game!
And get someone to explain to your shareholders that growth in income will come once the other projects you are working on are finished!
Concentrate on keeping your core customers not trying to alienate them! |
Mors Magne
Astral Adventure
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:31:00 -
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Most people whining on this thread are basically saying the same thing, "these clothes are irrelevant".
Well, at the moment they are irrelevant. This is why rooms for socialising (bars etc) should be made available as soon as possible.
I don't agree that "worn clothing should be treated like cargo when it comes to combat". This is because the clothes you wear form part of your personal identity - losing them may cause reduced emotional attachment to Eve Online. |
SwissChris1
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:41:00 -
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Edited by: SwissChris1 on 08/07/2011 15:41:25
Originally by: Mors Magne
Well, at the moment they are irrelevant. This is why rooms for socialising (bars etc) should be made available as soon as possible.
Yep this is where CCP failed big time...releasing the store before walking in stations...there would be marginally less whining imo |
Solosky
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:41:00 -
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So CCP is about to transfer social in-equality from real world into the game - so 95-99% of gamers could see and feel themselves as bitterly poor peasants?
I demand $500 monocle (which should look gorgeous btw - not like present dog's a**hole) to feel myself at the same level of superiority as in RL!
=) |
Toriessian
Amarr
Helion Production Labs
IMPERIAL LEGI0N
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:42:00 -
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Originally by: SwissChris1
Stop making clothes and continue making ship re-designs! Seriously, it's been over a year since the new Scorpion model was released...now we got the Maller...time to give people what they REALLY want!
Dude a few posts above you said he wanted Red Baron fighter goggles....lol thats kind of ironic |
kanmi
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:45:00 -
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Ahhhhhhh!!
Wanna make some money CCP! Got another AMAZING idea:
FIRE that cloths designers team, majority of your costumers realy dont wanna, dont need it or even care.
See.. saving money firing useless employees... BEST way! :P How amazing huh!? |
SwissChris1
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:45:00 -
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Originally by: Toriessian
Dude a few posts above you said he wanted Red Baron fighter goggles....lol thats kind of ironic
I would totally pay 1 plex for Red Baron fighter goggles  ...but not 4 plex or whatever CCP will want for them |
drinking12many
Minmatar
Nine Inch Ninja Corp
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:49:00 -
[239]
Swing and a miss.... space barbie ftmfl |
Doc Bizarro
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Posted - 2011.07.08 15:53:00 -
[240]
LOL CCP |
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