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Zombatar	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:11:00 - [1] What are they drinking at CCP HQ? 300-400 mil for the cheapest outfit? What?! The pricing policy is a joke, wait, the whole Incarna release is a joke, you do realise that if you want to get some new clothes its gonna cost 300 mil a pair? We wont get any free stuff guys. You pay a subscription but you still need to pay 15$ for some pants, the cheapest ones, remember! So if I get this straight we wont get any new clothes based on our subscription, all new updates from now on are basically accessible only with $$$. The super fancy ones will be 10 plexes... what? 3 bil for what? This is worse than monocle lol :O Forget about the prices for a second, why the hell does CCP even spend so much time/effort on this crap? I guess its all downhill from here... Where is that unsub button again? Ah found it.
Shova Kais Caldari Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:20:00 - [2] Get out of my EVE. Oh wait, that's what you're doing. Carry on.
Bad Messenger draketrain	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:21:00 - [3] I find that prices are right, maybe some are even too cheap example those combat goggles, soon everyone has those.
Cassidia Arbosa	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:22:00 - [4] They simply haven't realized that higer prices do not instantly equal more revenue (i.e. Intro to Economics). I'm sure they'll have someone take the class eventually, and then adjust prices accordingly.
Lolime Minmatar Brutor Tribe	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:24:00 - [5] Combat goggles were all i can afford.
Solstice Project	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:25:00 - [6] OMG OMG THE PRICE OF ONE PLEX !!!! OMG THAT'S SOOO EXPENSIVE !!!! OMG OMG !!!!! I could NEVER EVER make that money in ONE DAY ONLY !!! NEVER !!!! (sarcasm) ... and goodbye, cheapo. (no sarcasm)
Kalle Demos Amarr Helix Protocol	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:27:00 - [7] Why would anyone want to buy clothes anyway, it isnt like anyone can see what you are wearing Incarna - "Smart people buy monocles, dumb people buy shoes"
Zombatar	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:30:00 - [8] Edited by: Zombatar on 08/07/2011 22:31:36 I don't mind if some noobs feel the need to buy 3 bil pants of internet pixels. All is good, what I don't like is that I'm paying with my sub for stuff that has no purpose and adds nothing to the game. This is a waste of time, money and it will erode all that is left good in this game. When CCP spends all day making vanity items, that is the day EvE is going downhill. So much effort is being put in such an useless thing. Where are the stuff that matter? Oh wait space barbies is the future.
Xercodo Amarr Daj'Juntar	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:30:00 - [9] Edited by: Xercodo on 08/07/2011 22:32:51 Edited by: Xercodo on 08/07/2011 22:31:08 $15 for the FULL OUTFIT? not bad... that's like wal-mart prices isn't it? $5 shirt $5 pants $5 shoes Originally by: Zombatar why the hell does CCP even spend so much time/effort on this crap? cause its profitable? Originally by: Zombatar what I don't like is that I'm paying with my sub for stuff that has no purpose and adds nothing to the game. you aren't, in very short time here (or so a dev says) these things will pay for themselves and then some, thus helping fund FiS development o wait you don't want that either?
Zombatar	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:35:00 - [10] Originally by: Xercodo Originally by: Zombatar why the hell does CCP even spend so much time/effort on this crap? cause its profitable? I'm not going to pay CCP to update EVE with vanity items. If my subscription money is spent on such useless stuff, then it's time to move on for me. It's a bad investment, they do not invest in the game, they invest in ways to make more money, how is that good for anyone paying a subscription?
Nin Kimrov Minmatar Kenzi Arms and Munitions	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:40:00 - [11] Wow, they really decided to follow the real pricing item idea... "EVE is real, stop buying cloths, stop wearing them!, stop eating foods, stop washing, because it's coming to EvE online SOON! Then, you! yes you! fat looser, you will be able to dress your clone like you want, you will be sooooo hot."
Mystical Might Amarr The Imperial Fedaykin	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:43:00 - [12] Vanity items are there so that not everyone has one. Stop whining. Go make isk.
Ayieka Caldari	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:43:00 - [13] this would be a good thread, if this topic wasn't already old as hell.
Xercodo Amarr Daj'Juntar	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:46:00 - [14] Originally by: Zombatar Edited by: Zombatar on 08/07/2011 22:41:02 Originally by: Xercodo Originally by: Zombatar why the hell does CCP even spend so much time/effort on this crap? cause its profitable? I'm not going to pay CCP to update EVE with vanity items. If my subscription money is spent on such useless stuff, then it's time to move on for me. It's a bad investment, they do not invest in the game, they invest in ways to make more money, how is that good for anyone paying a subscription? The value I get from my sub has just decreased to almost 0 in many ways. And I am very sceptical vanity items will be able to be more successful than subscriptions... unless they will introduce P2W items which is quite probable at this point. People don't play eve to change clothes but to fly ships. So CCP better give me stuff I can actually enjoy in more ways than looking in a mirror. 18 months ends this winter ^^ if anything the value from my sub has increased besides, if we do get P2W, i dont imagine much would change we'll just gank his "P2W Golem" and he'll cry that he spent $1000 to win EVE
coolzero Gallente	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:49:00 - [15] at least in lord of the rings you get 500 turbine points per month if you subscribe to the game. you can really tell the "greed is good" mentality at work here @ccp
Ava n'Daara	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:52:00 - [16] Edited by: Ava n''Daara on 08/07/2011 22:53:15 So long as CCP keeps the NeX vanity-only, I'm fine with them charging as much as they like. At least one of anything made for sale will sell at pretty much any price. Assuming all income from MT doesn't go to the executives' pockets, it should help fund further improvements to the game. Further improvements such as actually making Drones behave properly for a change. How is that a bad thing? I think the monocle was set too cheap, or they should at least put some much more expensive items in the NeX. Having a monocle hardly sets you apart if 'everyone' has or can fairly easily get one. Higher prices make the item more unique in the game environment. Having said that, I'll likely never buy anything from the NeX. Just because it's there doesn't mean I'm forced to use it.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:54:00 - [17] Originally by: Zombatar What are they drinking at CCP HQ? 300-400 mil for the cheapest outfit? What?! The pricing policy is a joke, wait, the whole Incarna release is a joke, you do realise that if you want to get some new clothes its gonna cost 300 mil a pair? We wont get any free stuff guys. You pay a subscription but you still need to pay 15$ for some pants, the cheapest ones, remember! So if I get this straight we wont get any new clothes based on our subscription, all new updates from now on are basically accessible only with $$$. The super fancy ones will be 10 plexes... what? 3 bil for what? This is worse than monocle lol :O Forget about the prices for a second, why the hell does CCP even spend so much time/effort on this crap? I guess its all downhill from here... Where is that unsub button again? Ah found it. You NEED to pay 15 dollars or you CAN CHOOSE to pay 15 dollars? And can you CHOOSE to use virtual money?
Zombatar	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:54:00 - [18] Originally by: Xercodo 18 months ends this winter ^^ if anything the value from my sub has increased besides, if we do get P2W, i dont imagine much would change we'll just gank his "P2W Golem" and he'll cry that he spent $1000 to win EVE Change is the only certain thing, I guess EVE had to change, but I honestly think that this will not be in the best interest of the game. Too much investment in something that has a real potential to alienate a lot of the player base. But I agree when u pop that p2w golem, you will feel even better, but I am not sure many will risk that to make it profitable, its hard enough to make ISK to pew pew every day, unless u pay with RL cash, which is already in game. Why would you pay more to get the same effect?
Wilhelm Riley	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:55:00 - [19] Originally by: Zombatar It's a bad investment, they do not invest in the game, they invest in ways to make more money, how is that good for anyone paying a subscription? Of course they invest in ways to make more money, otherwise they'd go bankrupt and they'd have to shut EVE down. They are a business you know.
Zombatar	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:58:00 - [20] Originally by: Wilhelm Riley Originally by: Zombatar It's a bad investment, they do not invest in the game, they invest in ways to make more money, how is that good for anyone paying a subscription? Of course they invest in ways to make more money, otherwise they'd go bankrupt and they'd have to shut EVE down. They are a business you know. Last time I heard EVE ran a nice profit/year, but because of DUST/WOD they need more money ASAP else they go bankrupt. So we get P2W ideas and NEX store in EVE and 0 new gameplay features or improvements.
Shova Kais Caldari Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse	Posted - 2011.07.08 22:59:00 - [21] Originally by: Zombatar its hard enough to make ISK to pew pew every day, unless u pay with RL cash, which is already in game. You're clearly doing something VERY wrong if that's the case. Funding a pvp habit is relatively easy, unless you're losing caps all day every day.
Xercodo Amarr Daj'Juntar	Posted - 2011.07.08 23:02:00 - [22] Originally by: Wilhelm Riley Originally by: Zombatar It's a bad investment, they do not invest in the game, they invest in ways to make more money, how is that good for anyone paying a subscription? Of course they invest in ways to make more money, otherwise they'd go bankrupt and they'd have to shut EVE down. They are a business you know. yup, and if anything constant e-cheer's we've had every time CCP got a step closer to WiS shows to me that the alienated player based is very much a minority. That and the fact that they totally revamped the tutorial system again (they finally have specific tutorials for racial weapons systems and such) and that every other story about how "I tried to get my bf/gf/friend/relative to try EVE" ends in they feeling alienated from a lack of having a physical character this was an expansion for the newbs and should be great for getting more of them into EVE and more of them to stay. now that CCP has the fabled WiS out (or at least its frame work) they have a lot on their plate planned for the older players and the in space stuff (look at the thread about the cap ships and the 0.0 changes, and then go find the thread where "devs answer all of your questions")
uhox	Posted - 2011.07.08 23:03:00 - [23] one word? Trolololoollooollolololoooo
Zombatar	Posted - 2011.07.08 23:06:00 - [24] Originally by: Xercodo now that CCP has the fabled WiS out (or at least its frame work) they have a lot on their plate planned for the older players and the in space stuff (look at the thread about the cap ships and the 0.0 changes, and then go find the thread where "devs answer all of your questions") Care to share the link to that cap ships/0.0 changes? Things like that are indeed worth my time.
Xercodo Amarr Daj'Juntar	Posted - 2011.07.08 23:13:00 - [25] Originally by: Zombatar Originally by: Xercodo now that CCP has the fabled WiS out (or at least its frame work) they have a lot on their plate planned for the older players and the in space stuff (look at the thread about the cap ships and the 0.0 changes, and then go find the thread where "devs answer all of your questions") Care to share the link to that cap ships/0.0 changes? Things like that are indeed worth my time. sure... Cap ships 0.0 Love Devs answer everything I couldn't find the 18 months stuff since Chrriba took EVE-search down for a bit
Takashi X2	Posted - 2011.07.08 23:18:00 - [26] Well honestly it could have been a good idea. Introduce something at a high price wait to see how sales go and then lower the price if it seems too outlandish but i really dont think that was what they were thinking tho.. It kind of how they should release ships except in reverse. They should release them underpowered adn boost them till its right.
Zombatar	Posted - 2011.07.08 23:19:00 - [27] Originally by: Xercodo Originally by: Zombatar Originally by: Xercodo now that CCP has the fabled WiS out (or at least its frame work) they have a lot on their plate planned for the older players and the in space stuff (look at the thread about the cap ships and the 0.0 changes, and then go find the thread where "devs answer all of your questions") Care to share the link to that cap ships/0.0 changes? Things like that are indeed worth my time. sure... Cap ships 0.0 Love Devs answer everything I couldn't find the 18 months stuff since Chrriba took EVE-search down for a bit Cheers, looks good, however I'll wait to see if they actually deliver such stuff. To me they seem to have other priorities at this time. I'm just disappointed, that is all.
Taedrin Gallente Zero Percent Tax Haven	Posted - 2011.07.08 23:30:00 - [28] I will just simply not purchase anything from the NEX, until prices match my budget. If the prices never match my budget, well... I guess I'll live, since the NEX store isn't required for gameplay anyways.
Xercodo Amarr Daj'Juntar	Posted - 2011.07.08 23:31:00 - [29] Edited by: Xercodo on 08/07/2011 23:31:07 Originally by: Zombatar Cheers, looks good, however I'll wait to see if they actually deliver such stuff. To me they seem to have other priorities at this time. I'm just disappointed, that is all. post 64 on the third page of the dev answers thread: Originally by: CCP Soundwave Kern Hotha Does CCP still think that new shiny stuff is more important than refining core gameplay? ? >> No, I think we changed that priority a while back. Now obviously the Incarna teams are an exception, but the flying in space teams have been iterating on the game. Gridlock has been working on lag reduction for a long time, BFF on the little things and PI are as always chugging away on, well, PI. A lot of the shiny stuff is likely to come out on the Incarna side, while youÆll probably see us continue to refine the flying in space gameplay.
Moar Caffeine	Posted - 2011.07.08 23:33:00 - [30] I can't even afford to purchase pants in real life, when I leave the house I have to do it at night to avoid the police being called on me.

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