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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.12 02:56:00 -
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I am looking for a quick 2-3 Bil investment.
This is the 2nd time i do it, only this time the sum is double. I think i could have handled a larger one the first time but unlike CCP i think greed is not good *sad lol*.
The funds will be used to purchase, haul and sell ships on a market where the supply is shorter than the demand for some ships and where i have strong inteligence that the conflict will span over another 1-2 months for sure(no, it's not RVB - my corp has nothing to do with it). You understand why i can't reveal the specifics of the information.
As collateral in case the whole conflict comes to an abrupt stop (server failure?) i own 8 tengus fully fitted with subsystems. I think 6 of those are enough to cover the sum. I also hold other assets but the tengus themselves should be enough.
The return will be in 3 weeks starting the day(moment) i reach the 2 BIL margin.
I will also be contributing with 2 Bil of my own to this and i posses transport capabilities.
It's not the first time I do it, it's just the first time i want to make a slightly bigger profit. I'm gearing up for PvP.
Minimum investment: 200mil
Money to be sent to this char with the appropriate "reason". Will confirm upon receival ( i work a bit during the day) Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |

Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.07.12 03:03:00 -
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Edited by: Candy Oshea on 12/07/2011 03:07:09 Withdrawn. ___ iCandy Bonds
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.12 03:05:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 12/07/2011 03:05:41 Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 12/07/2011 03:05:19
That's the reason I'm looking for the loan otherwise I would have carried and sold them myself for the needed remaining funds.
Unless you are interested in holding a few Tengus in an unaccessible 0.0 station, it's good. I can't take them out for 2 more weeks. That's when I'm gonna jump again.
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.07.12 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Coffe's Babe Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 12/07/2011 03:05:41 Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 12/07/2011 03:05:19
That's the reason I'm looking for the loan otherwise I would have carried and sold them myself for the needed remaining funds.
Unless you are interested in holding a few Tengus in an unaccessible 0.0 station, it's good. I can't take them out for 2 more weeks. That's when I'm gonna jump again.
edits: typos
Your OP didn't mention anything about 0.0 unaccessable stations. 
Best of luck, withdrawing my reservation.
___ iCandy Bonds
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Serene Python
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Posted - 2011.07.12 03:07:00 -
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Originally by: Coffe's Babe Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 12/07/2011 03:05:41 Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 12/07/2011 03:05:19
That's the reason I'm looking for the loan otherwise I would have carried and sold them myself for the needed remaining funds.
Unless you are interested in holding a few Tengus in an unaccessible 0.0 station, it's good. I can't take them out for 2 more weeks. That's when I'm gonna jump again.
edits: typos
Oh so that explains the 12% on a collateralized loan
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.12 03:11:00 -
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Well it's accessible for me. As i said, this is the safety in case I get blown up (suicide gank and not even then ) or something really bad happens. It takes one jump freighter jump to get them to low sec.
It took me a while last time to gather the money as well but the ones who invested were not dissapointed. I do these ISK restocks 5-6 times a year. It's how I got by in the past 5 yrs. Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |

Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.07.12 03:13:00 -
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Yeh, if your looking for public funding, try & get your collateral into a sell-able location, also Tengu's aren't the best to use, try any item that has an NPC buy order up, or a BPO.
Best of luck. ___ iCandy Bonds
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.12 03:17:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 12/07/2011 03:18:08 Tengu prices are not likely to drop in the next 3 weeks. 1 of the 5 major t3 producers just got facerolled. In the last 1 bil investment the collateral was another character I had. I wasn't forced to sell it but I did afterwards anyway.
All I'm saying is that the only one who can lose out of this is me and it's only so many times someone can take advantage of in game politics aka I don't want to lose my window. Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |

Kat Orok Syiid
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Posted - 2011.07.12 03:19:00 -
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I think his point was that it's a risky investment as you're going to have to transfer those tengus out of 0.0 space safely.
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.07.12 03:23:00 -
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Originally by: Coffe's Babe Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 12/07/2011 03:18:08 Tengu prices are not likely to drop .......
Correct, but if you default on your loan, how does one sell a tengu in a system, they have no access to? ___ iCandy Bonds
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.12 03:25:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 12/07/2011 03:26:16 As I said, once I get there it's not a problem to take them out. I'm part of the SOV that owns that place. Also I plan to return there with items bought from empire with the funds earned from the manouver that I'm trying to pull off. So in short it ruins all my plans.
Plus due to external factors I can't pull the tengus out, do the deal, take them back 3 weeks later. I got through enough sh*t getting them there already. My plan is to still have the tengus after this if possible. It's a leap of faith. Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |

Kat Orok Syiid
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Posted - 2011.07.12 03:29:00 -
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Sounds good enough for me, put me down for 300m
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.12 03:30:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 12/07/2011 03:30:16 Ty. Will get home and confirm receival in 1 hr 40 mins max : )
edit: updated 1st post too Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |

Kat Orok Syiid
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Posted - 2011.07.12 03:31:00 -
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I didn't send it yet, do you want it now, and the interest will start rolling over from today, or do you want it once you get the full amount reserved?
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.12 03:35:00 -
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I would like to start using the funds starting today (07/11/2011) since it's my day off and I can arrange for the necessary transportation. It has to be done in more trips so it's not a problem if it takes till midnight (it's 6 30 am here) to gather it all.
So if you send the money, the investment will be returned in exactly 24 days from the confirmation. (aka when i log on and see/confirm) Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |

Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.12 04:27:00 -
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Confirming receival of funds from Katt and updated first post. Am online now and will be for a while. Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |

Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.07.12 06:02:00 -
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Edited by: Tigerras on 12/07/2011 06:02:46 Will invest 400m to help this get off the ground. Sending isk in-game now.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.12 06:20:00 -
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Confirming receival. Adding you to top post contributors. Thank you. Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |

Levija Saplina
Supremacy Inc. Not Found.
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Posted - 2011.07.12 07:13:00 -
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I'll do all the rest and will want those Tengus in collateral.
Station/location does not matter to me.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.12 07:18:00 -
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Send the isk to this char and I will contract 1 tengu / 350 mil (already have subsystems). I will private contract it to you from a different char whose identity i would request to be kept private due to political reasons. And thanks a million! Or better said 1.3 billion lol  Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |

Levija Saplina
Supremacy Inc. Not Found.
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Posted - 2011.07.12 08:30:00 -
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Originally by: Coffe's Babe Send the isk to this char and I will contract 1 tengu / 350 mil (already have subsystems). I will private contract it to you from a different char whose identity i would request to be kept private due to political reasons. And thanks a million! Or better said 1.3 billion lol 
Well if this is going to be collateral, I think it would make more sense to contract the Tengus to me vs isk (the 350 mil per tengu ratio is fine by me). You can then transfer from that char to Coffee's Babe.
Or else me sending the isk first kind of defies the purpose of a collateral.
Also, no problem about keeping anonymous your other char, I have no interests in ingame politics.
So, contract the tengus to me for a total of 1.3 billion and we'll be good to go.
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Jita Tradedrone
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Posted - 2011.07.12 09:51:00 -
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can i reserve 200m and send it when home?
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.07.12 10:22:00 -
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Originally by: Coffe's Babe
Tengu prices are not likely to drop in the next 3 weeks. 1 of the 5 major t3 producers just got facerolled. .
A bit off topic but I would love to hear more about this.
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March rabbit
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Posted - 2011.07.12 11:10:00 -
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it seems i found this thread too late... however 500mils can be invested in 8 hours from this moment. Drop me a message if it isn't too late.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.12 12:26:00 -
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Originally by: Jita Tradedrone can i reserve 200m and send it when home?
There's still time. I can extend myself to getting stuff worth more, already sold a couple of ships so i can still take investments.
Talk to me first!
Regarding the tengus, they will be contracted in a few hrs tops. Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |

minerelite
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Posted - 2011.07.12 15:32:00 -
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Have you got room for another 200m? |

Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.12 15:35:00 -
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Yes. Aiming to reach 3 bil. It's going well. I'm in game now. Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |

Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.12 17:39:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 12/07/2011 17:39:19 Added Jita Traderdrone(awesome name) to first post with 200mil. Can still take ~1+ bil more, things are going really well even in the first day. Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |

XxBoSsin83RxX
Minmatar The Executives Executive Outcomes
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Posted - 2011.07.12 17:55:00 -
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my 350m isk is waiting for you. Ingame now and isks ready.
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Roguehalo
Caldari Roguehalo Ship Brokers
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Posted - 2011.07.12 19:10:00 -
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It5's really astonishing that people would invest in something on the basis of non accessible collateral.
The mind boggles tbh
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March rabbit
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Posted - 2011.07.12 22:17:00 -
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500mils sent
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.12 22:35:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 12/07/2011 22:43:25
Originally by: Roguehalo It5's really astonishing that people would invest in something on the basis of non accessible collateral.
The mind boggles tbh
From what I've seen here, the people that can afford to invest 500 mil in smth like this, have at least 100 times more. It's a small risk, and if it does not go through it's a small disappointment for them but a business killer for me.
If it goes through, it's a win-win situation and they just added another person to their investment portfolio. 10 percent there, 3 percent there... it adds up :)
Gonna confirm the ISKies in a bit, i just came back from Transformers 3(D). Was awesome tho i expected more :d
edit: modified first post with contributors. ty Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |

Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.13 01:12:00 -
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I am happy to announce that the battle still rages on. 1 hour ago one type of ships i stockpiled on got sold in 10 minutes and i had like 8 units. I smell salvagers dumping loot soon 
So basically I made 850mil out of 550 invested. And this was in the past 2 hours. God I wish this would go on for a month at least. I love when people kill each other.In game that is..
Also if anyone else is willing to jump in I can handle ~ 1 more bil these 2 days. Then I gotta work for 2 days, will mainly just come and check on events/ask questions around. Then I'll see if I can extend myself even more. I might even be able to return the investment in ~2 weeks but if people keep blowing themselves up I'll keep going at it as well. Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |

Levija Saplina
Supremacy Inc. Not Found.
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Posted - 2011.07.13 06:53:00 -
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Glad to see the contracts for the Tengus never came up.
I would have loaned the whole amount of the bond but obviously you made your way around this.
Thus, in my opinion : incoming scam inevitable.
So many signs to this, especially in your last two posts.
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March rabbit
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Posted - 2011.07.13 08:48:00 -
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Originally by: Coffe's Babe
Originally by: Roguehalo It5's really astonishing that people would invest in something on the basis of non accessible collateral.
The mind boggles tbh
From what I've seen here, the people that can afford to invest 500 mil in smth like this, have at least 100 times more. It's a small risk, and if it does not go through it's a small disappointment for them but a business killer for me. [/qoute] i have not 100 times over 500mils :) however i have more money than i can spend resonable way. And money keep coming easily (you know it: money come to money). So i want to make them work a little. If it helps to other people - i'm happy.
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Jita Tradedrone
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Posted - 2011.07.13 10:56:00 -
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Edited by: Jita Tradedrone on 13/07/2011 10:56:26
Originally by: Coffe's Babe Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 12/07/2011 17:39:19 Added Jita Traderdrone(awesome name)
thanks, but its without the middle r in traderdrone :D
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.13 12:58:00 -
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Originally by: Levija Saplina
So many signs to this, especially in your last two posts.
You were not in game and some of them went to another person as well.
Regarding what you said, if I were to actually want to scam, I would have had a different approach. I noticed on these forums that when people actually say they have success or expect larger numbers, people look at this with skepticism. So for optimum results the best approach would have been to make the add and shut the **** up. Maybe even say things are going bad and that i need a bit more time.
Thus, your opinion is wrong. Your reaction is understandable tho. Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |

Jita Tradedrone
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Posted - 2011.08.01 08:17:00 -
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If possible i'd like an update of the current status.
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.03 17:36:00 -
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Originally by: Jita Tradedrone If possible i'd like an update of the current status.
As would I
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.03 21:52:00 -
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The loan will be repaid on Friday, 5th of August. I will try to compensate with 1 percent extra for everyone to make up for the delay. It's work - related and a trip prevents me from logging in EvE till then.
All went OK though.
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.04 02:23:00 -
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Originally by: Coffe's Babe Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 03/08/2011 21:57:48 The loan will be repaid on Friday, 5th of August. I will try to compensate with 1 percent extra for everyone to make up for the delay. It's work - related and a trip prevents me from logging in EvE till then.
All went OK though.
edit: and next week if the new work schedule will allow me another month of decent eve time, I'll do another one if anyone will be interested; nothing certain yet tho.
RL happens. Thanks for the update, will look forward to your next offering.
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Jita Tradedrone
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Posted - 2011.08.04 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: Tigerras
Originally by: Coffe's Babe Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 03/08/2011 21:57:48 The loan will be repaid on Friday, 5th of August. I will try to compensate with 1 percent extra for everyone to make up for the delay. It's work - related and a trip prevents me from logging in EvE till then.
All went OK though.
edit: and next week if the new work schedule will allow me another month of decent eve time, I'll do another one if anyone will be interested; nothing certain yet tho.
RL happens. Thanks for the update, will look forward to your next offering.
What Tigerras Says. Thanks for the update and i too will be looking forward to your next offering.
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.04 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Jita Tradedrone
Originally by: Tigerras
Originally by: Coffe's Babe Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 03/08/2011 21:57:48 The loan will be repaid on Friday, 5th of August. I will try to compensate with 1 percent extra for everyone to make up for the delay. It's work - related and a trip prevents me from logging in EvE till then.
All went OK though.
edit: and next week if the new work schedule will allow me another month of decent eve time, I'll do another one if anyone will be interested; nothing certain yet tho.
RL happens. Thanks for the update, will look forward to your next offering.
What Tigerras Says. Thanks for the update and i too will be looking forward to your next offering.
Jinx, you owe me some coke....wait I may have that wrong.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.05 18:39:00 -
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Gonna get home in a sec. From my calculations, with the 13% interest the following should be paid out (correct me if I'm wrong):
Kat Orok Syiid - 300m + 39 = 339m Tigerras - 400m + 52 = 452m Jita Tradedrone - 200m = 226m March Rabbit - 500m = 565m
I will not wait for the above to be online, I will transfer it in their wallet when I will log in with the specified reason. I kindly ask for confirmation here or in-game. Looking forward to do my next one too!
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.05 19:25:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 05/08/2011 19:24:52 All investors have been paid. Thank you for the business opportunity. The situation's not over and after I relax in the weekend I will start another one most likely for anyone interested.
Also for the guys that said that I will run with the ISK since it was a loan without collateral more or less since nobody got the tengus, "in your face with luv <3".
Bisous.
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March rabbit
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Posted - 2011.08.05 20:27:00 -
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Edited by: March rabbit on 05/08/2011 20:27:56 money received. i hope you finished well.
i'm looking forward to continue business with you.
PS: reserve some part for me in your next project
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.05 20:30:00 -
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Originally by: March rabbit Edited by: March rabbit on 05/08/2011 20:27:56 money received. i hope you finished well.
You got no idea
With the help of ev1 I managed to put some solid bricks under my ferm... well you get the drift.
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Tigerras
Smash Incorporated
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Posted - 2011.08.05 23:11:00 -
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confirming receipt of 452m; thanks coffe's Babe, looking forward to your next
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Kat Orok Syiid
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Posted - 2011.08.06 06:31:00 -
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339m received, thanks
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Jita Tradedrone
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Posted - 2011.08.06 13:33:00 -
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Isk received, thank you and looking forward to doing business again.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.06 15:48:00 -
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This offering(i don't know how to call it.. bond, loan, investment, leopluradon etc) is now closed.
Thanks to the participants and after I finish all my piled up work during the weekend (i'm there now... d'oh!) I'll get back on squeezing a little bit more ISK for my end of summer PVP plans 
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