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Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:30:00 -
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They are always doing it in same systems,
get yourselve and alt
wait untill they suicide
pop the wreck
convo them, tell them you want xxx amount of isk per freighter or xx amount of loot
profit!!
problem fixed
or just skip the ransomming part to just grief them CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
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Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
358
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:30:00 -
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in before goon spam that gets this locked to get this smart solution of the board CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
[url]http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9679/whatihavedoneineve.jpg[/url] |
Tiger Would
EoE-Group
2888
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:33:00 -
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Quote:How to counter the goon suicides
Cheer them up. Once you think you have it all, you-áhave actually become-áignorant towards everything else.
T. Would |
FluffyDice
Psykotic Meat Fatal Ascension
227
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:48:00 -
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You missed the step where you get concorded for destroying someones property. |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
218
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:50:00 -
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Cool story, how do I counter the other corps? |
Russell Casey
Deep Void Industrial Group Damned Nation
199
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:57:00 -
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FluffyDice wrote:You missed the step where you get concorded for destroying someones property.
Actually, your "loot" gets flagged too. I once popped a can full of ore while solo flipping in a frig after the irate miner came and flipped it back in a BS. Learned German for "Little bastard" that day. |
Ensign X
229
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Posted - 2012.09.18 14:58:00 -
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Dis thread. |
FluffyDice
Psykotic Meat Fatal Ascension
227
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:01:00 -
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Russell Casey wrote:FluffyDice wrote:You missed the step where you get concorded for destroying someones property. Actually, your "loot" gets flagged too. I once popped a can full of ore while solo flipping in a frig after the irate miner came and flipped it back in a BS. Learned German for "Little bastard" that day. Pretty sure the freighter wreck would still belong to the pilot and you shooting it would get you concorded. |
Ensign X
229
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:03:00 -
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FluffyDice wrote:You missed the step where you get concorded for destroying someones property.
Except, you don't get CONCORDed for popping their wreck. You get flagged for aggression against the owner of the wreck and his corp, but CONCORD doesn't care. |
Ensign X
229
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:04:00 -
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FluffyDice wrote:Pretty sure the freighter wreck would still belong to the pilot and you shooting it would get you concorded.
No. |
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FluffyDice
Psykotic Meat Fatal Ascension
227
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:06:00 -
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Oh well carry on then. I guess I just don't have that much experience shooting wrecks. |
Grey Azorria
Federation Industries
212
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:10:00 -
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Ensign X wrote:FluffyDice wrote:You missed the step where you get concorded for destroying someones property. Except, you don't get CONCORDed for popping their wreck. You get flagged for aggression against the owner of the wreck and his corp, but CONCORD doesn't care. You get concorded for shooting for shooting cans, and IIRC, wrecks. Do not argue with an idiot. He will drag you down to his level and beat you with experience.
Mate. |
Metal Icarus
Endless Destruction Against ALL Anomalies
284
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:10:00 -
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cloaky thrasher on grid to pop wrecks....
A nice little "**** you!"
Pop the wreck, cloak up, lol HARD in local. |
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
167
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:10:00 -
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FluffyDice wrote:You missed the step where you get concorded for destroying someones property. Except you can pop wrecks in a noob ship and it basically costs you nothing. Unless the 2-3,000 isk for some decent small guns will break you.
That could actually work, considering the GOON gankers are self supported. They got some start up capital, but are expected to make enough profit off the ganks to keep themselves going. There are certainly enough traders, dumb enough to haul profitable loads in and around Jita that they have no problem covering their ship and fitting costs. If some one was to counter gank them by popping wrecks with noob ships before they could loot they would run out of isk before long.
Especially if they are using teir 3 BC's to Gank freighters. They will not want to waste the gank ship popping a worthless noob ship.
Not to bust up the GOONS fun or anything, but this is one anti gank tactic that actually might work.
The best way to get back at the GOONS is to hit them in the pocket book. Fighting back or even just putting up a good fight will only encourage them. After all PVP of any type is what they want, why else would they be ganking in the first place. Hitting them in the pocket book without giving them any action to go along with the loss, sounds like a possible way to discourage them.
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Ensign X
229
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:13:00 -
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Anybody seen my pants?
I was sure I left them here in dis' thread.
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Cpt Roghie
Deadly Shadow Clan Silent Infinity
51
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:14:00 -
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Oh lord. Someone take the trash out. Zzzzzzzz.
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Frostys Virpio
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
13
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:15:00 -
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Bugsy VanHalen wrote:FluffyDice wrote:You missed the step where you get concorded for destroying someones property. Except you can pop wrecks in a noob ship and it basically costs you nothing. Unless the 2-3,000 isk for some decent small guns will break you. That could actually work, considering the GOON gankers are self supported. They got some start up capital, but are expected to make enough profit off the ganks to keep themselves going. There are certainly enough traders, dumb enough to haul profitable loads in and around Jita that they have no problem covering their ship and fitting costs. If some one was to counter gank them by popping wrecks with noob ships before they could loot they would run out of isk before long. Especially if they are using teir 3 BC's to Gank freighters. They will not want to waste the gank ship popping a worthless noob ship. Not to bust up the GOONS fun or anything, but this is one anti gank tactic that actually might work. The best way to get back at the GOONS is to hit them in the pocket book. Fighting back or even just putting up a good fight will only encourage them. After all PVP of any type is what they want, why else would they be ganking in the first place. Hitting them in the pocket book without giving them any action to go along with the loss, sounds like a possible way to discourage them.
They can also keep a pilot out of the combat and loot before you can shoot it... |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1543
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:16:00 -
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Nice troll thread. Your solution is ****, as looting is faster than popping a wreck. Just steal the loot from under their noses instead. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
955
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:21:00 -
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Lack of content and trolling earns this thread a nice lock - ISD Type40. ISD Type40 Lieutenant Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
991
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Posted - 2012.09.18 15:25:00 -
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Popping a wreck that is not yours does call CONCORD. We recently had a case where a corp member used an out of corp alt to clear a belt of rats. He then had the alt set the wrecks blue. He went to his in-corp pilots, orca and barges. He decided the wrecks needed to be cleaned up. Launched drones from the Orca and attacked a wreck. He got a warning that he clicked through, figuring it must be inconsequential as the wrecks were blue. CONCORD destroyed the Orca. A check with CCP came back "working as intended".
But this still sounds like an excellent idea. Shoot the freighter wrecks before they get looted, just with a ship you do not care about. Also, do it with an out of corp pilot so you do not have to worry about a war dec in retaliation (unless you want a war dec.) http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |
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CCP Gargant
C C P C C P Alliance
17
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Posted - 2012.09.19 14:22:00 -
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Moved from General Discussion. This discussion belongs here.
Please stay on topic and keep the trolling to a minimum. Don't make me sad, meow. CCP Gargant | Community Representitive |
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Piugattuk
CLOROFLORFILAPLANKTONPLATES
50
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Posted - 2012.09.19 17:52:00 -
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GOONS in hi sec but doing what?? listen I've lived in dull sec before I can't believe that the Goons are doing this for profit as much as for lol, I mean has dull sec become a barren desert? When I lived in -0.7 space I could build anything quickly and make tons of isk'ies off of so much wealth around you, nah Goons are Goons, they get boredom just like many others in dull sec so the come to hi sec (just like low sec pirates) for lol it gives the game (they're bored of) some reason to log in, don't get me wrong I'm not coming down on them just that to me I took a break from eve after being in dull sec and boredom makes you do strange things. |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
361
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Posted - 2012.09.19 20:04:00 -
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Posting in a ISD locked topic that got reopend by a proper moderator after request..... CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
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feihcsiM
Last Exit For The Lost Dark Therapy
53
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Posted - 2012.09.20 08:44:00 -
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Get your freighter pilot a set of HG slaves and follow it with a fleeted alt in a legion/damnation with ganglinks & mindlink. it's all the rage It's the end of the world as we know it and I feel fine. |
RooieStormInMijnBroekje
No Self Esteem Malefic Aspects
0
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Posted - 2012.09.20 15:39:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Nice troll thread. Your solution is ****, as looting is faster than popping a wreck. Just steal the loot from under their noses instead.
Actually you are wrong since looting from the freighter wreck would require a freighter probably and i can almost bet that isnt on grid yet, or at least closeby the wreck. Instalock thrasher should do the trick!
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Gixxer 1000
Silver Snake Enterprise Against ALL Authorities
1
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Posted - 2012.09.22 18:01:00 -
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CCP Gargant wrote:Moved from General Discussion. This discussion belongs here.
Please stay on topic and keep the trolling to a minimum. Don't make me sad, meow.
Goon alt detected. Carry on, I love it when Goons cry and throw a his say fit.
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Tora Bushido
EVE Corporation 987654321-POP The Marmite Collective
78
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Posted - 2012.09.22 19:13:00 -
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Why would you like to counter their ganks ? First of all, it's part of the game. Second, why not focus on your own thing instead of others ? My resists to bad posts are 78-89-83-90 ....... The metal head plate increased it by 5%.
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RooieStormInMijnBroekje
No Self Esteem Malefic Aspects
1
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Posted - 2012.09.22 21:00:00 -
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Tora Bushido wrote:Why would you like to counter their ganks ? First of all, it's part of the game. Second, why not focus on your own thing instead of others ?
Why would you not counter it? They love to grief, but wanna get a profit from it. Then why not grief them back, suicide a thrasher on a freighter wreck. The tiers this would create would be hilarious to say the least! |
Pinky Feldman
Gank Bangers Moar Tears
369
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Posted - 2012.09.23 12:19:00 -
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We had people do this to us when we were in highsec. Pretty funny/frustrating. You don't really need much to do it either. Also, to the Rifterlings guy, you're completely wrong. Its much faster to pop a wreck than the time it takes to warp a hauler onto a wreck and loot is. The time differenecs aren't even comparable.
To the OP, you should probably do this yourself on an alt instead of trying to get other people to do your dirty work for free.
The moar you cry the less you pee |
Archon Zeratul
Viziam Amarr Empire
6
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Posted - 2012.09.25 09:50:00 -
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just spawn concord on the gates where freighter is passing through with an alt in an ibis |
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Ristlin Wakefield
Wanderers of the Eternal Darkness Eternal Pretorian Alliance
96
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Posted - 2012.09.25 14:19:00 -
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I like this idea quite a bit! :) I have a lover, her name is EVE. I see her every night and all she asks in return is that I have a pilot's license. |
Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
659
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Posted - 2012.09.25 15:38:00 -
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Archon Zeratul wrote:just spawn concord on the gates where freighter is passing through with an alt in an ibis
Many have tried this. All have died.
We don't care too much about the loot the freighter drops--or, more than likely, doesn't drop. It's not about the money. EveO is a circus train that is for bafflingly unclear reasons also carrying tanks of chlorine gas,-ácrashing and exploding in the middle of a small midwestern town. -áCalling it a mere train wreck gives neither the entertainment nor the horror it offers its proper due. |
Karah Serrigan
The Hatchery Team Liquid
70
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Posted - 2012.09.25 16:40:00 -
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Mara Tessidar wrote:Archon Zeratul wrote:just spawn concord on the gates where freighter is passing through with an alt in an ibis Many have tried this. All have died. You mean to tell me, gccing in highsec to provoke concord results in your death??? |
Pipa Porto
1049
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Posted - 2012.09.26 07:34:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:in before goon spam that gets this locked to get this smart solution of the board
Pretty sure all they'll say is "So why haven't you started doing this, oh great and powerful NPC Corp Alt?"
So... uh... why haven't you started doing this, oh great and powerful NPC Corp Alt? And why doesn't your OP have proof that it's been successful? EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Delicia
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2012.09.26 09:55:00 -
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I just show them my papers and they leave me alone. I paid 300m to blawrf something or other and now I magically am not bothered by goons at all in highsec or elsewhere.
If you need to be made blue by goons, ask blawrf if he is still offering that service for 300m. I understand it was a lifetime deal, which is pretty sweet for me as I expect to stay around a long time |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Aliastra Gallente Federation
363
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Posted - 2012.09.26 13:24:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:in before goon spam that gets this locked to get this smart solution of the board Pretty sure all they'll say is "So why haven't you started doing this, oh great and powerful NPC Corp Alt?" So... uh... why haven't you started doing this, oh great and powerful NPC Corp Alt? And why doesn't your OP have proof that it's been successful?
You should check my empoyment history ingame so you see that at the time of writhing this i was in corp for more than 3 years. Sorry to ruin your fail trolling CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
[url]http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9679/whatihavedoneineve.jpg[/url] |
Karah Serrigan
The Hatchery Team Liquid
70
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Posted - 2012.09.26 14:04:00 -
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Delicia wrote: I just show them my papers and they leave me alone. I paid 300m to blawrf something or other and now I magically am not bothered by goons at all in highsec or elsewhere.
If you need to be made blue by goons, ask blawrf if he is still offering that service for 300m. I understand it was a lifetime deal, which is pretty sweet for me as I expect to stay around a long time
Be careful, someone might actually fall for this.
Pipa Porto wrote:Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:in before goon spam that gets this locked to get this smart solution of the board Pretty sure all they'll say is "So why haven't you started doing this, oh great and powerful NPC Corp Alt?" So... uh... why haven't you started doing this, oh great and powerful NPC Corp Alt? And why doesn't your OP have proof that it's been successful?
Maybe because it takes attention and is boring as ****. So why not just inform other people about it, maybe someone might actually bother to do this tedious task. |
Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4881
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Posted - 2012.09.26 14:15:00 -
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i wonder why members of Against ALL Authorities are so concerned about hisec freighter ganks
could it be that they don't want to lose their freighters as they evac catch? please leave |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Aliastra Gallente Federation
363
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Posted - 2012.09.26 19:28:00 -
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Andski wrote:i wonder why members of Against ALL Authorities are so concerned about hisec freighter ganks
could it be that they don't want to lose their freighters as they evac catch?
do you see me as a member of -A-? Why do you make it political like this... take your fail trolling somewhere else too pls... CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
[url]http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9679/whatihavedoneineve.jpg[/url] |
Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings Damu'Khonde
1590
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Posted - 2012.09.26 21:02:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:do you see me as a member of -A-? Why do you make it political like this... take your fail trolling somewhere else too pls... You were a member of AAA for three years until two days ago. The AAA alliance name next to yours is sort of burned into some of our retinas. Rifterlings - small gang frigate PvP - low/nullsec operations, newbie-friendly, free ship program; Join today! www.rifterlings.com
Accidentally The Whole Frigate (blog) - Learning how to pew pew, one loss at a time - www.thewholefrigate.com |
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Hemmo Paskiainen
Aliastra Gallente Federation
363
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Posted - 2012.09.26 21:29:00 -
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Petrus Blackshell wrote:Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:do you see me as a member of -A-? Why do you make it political like this... take your fail trolling somewhere else too pls... You were a member of AAA for three years until two days ago. The AAA alliance name next to yours is sort of burned into some of our retinas.
Yeah i guessppl get used to that after lots of posts. I automaticly assume goons are trolling me, i wonder how i get that feeling always . Anyhow, looking for a new corp, got a ad in rec centre somwhere. CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
[url]http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9679/whatihavedoneineve.jpg[/url] |
Pipa Porto
1063
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Posted - 2012.09.26 21:43:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:in before goon spam that gets this locked to get this smart solution of the board Pretty sure all they'll say is "So why haven't you started doing this, oh great and powerful NPC Corp Alt?" So... uh... why haven't you started doing this, oh great and powerful NPC Corp Alt? And why doesn't your OP have proof that it's been successful? You should check my empoyment history ingame so you see that at the time of writhing this i was in corp for more than 3 years. Sorry to ruin your fail trolling So... uh... why haven't you started doing this, oh great and powerful former -A- member who deserted as the tide turned? And why doesn't your OP have proof that it's been successful? EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Aliastra Gallente Federation
363
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Posted - 2012.09.27 13:44:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:in before goon spam that gets this locked to get this smart solution of the board Pretty sure all they'll say is "So why haven't you started doing this, oh great and powerful NPC Corp Alt?" So... uh... why haven't you started doing this, oh great and powerful NPC Corp Alt? And why doesn't your OP have proof that it's been successful? You should check my empoyment history ingame so you see that at the time of writhing this i was in corp for more than 3 years. Sorry to ruin your fail trolling So... uh... why haven't you started doing this, oh great and powerful former -A- member who deserted as the tide turned? And why doesn't your OP have proof that it's been successful?
Stop trolling dude otherwise i have to call in the meow moderator to get it cleaned. My leaving has nothing to do with changing tides. Motives for this and why im not doing this are irrelevant. CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
[url]http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/9679/whatihavedoneineve.jpg[/url] |
Pipa Porto
1064
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Posted - 2012.09.27 19:14:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:in before goon spam that gets this locked to get this smart solution of the board Pretty sure all they'll say is "So why haven't you started doing this, oh great and powerful NPC Corp Alt?" So... uh... why haven't you started doing this, oh great and powerful NPC Corp Alt? And why doesn't your OP have proof that it's been successful? You should check my empoyment history ingame so you see that at the time of writhing this i was in corp for more than 3 years. Sorry to ruin your fail trolling
So... uh... why haven't you started doing this, oh great and powerful [Insert your chosen epithet here]? And why doesn't your OP have proof that it's been successful? EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
147
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Posted - 2012.09.28 21:12:00 -
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Piugattuk wrote: GOONS in hi sec but doing what?? listen I've lived in dull sec before I can't believe that the Goons are doing this for profit as much as for lol, I mean has dull sec become a barren desert? When I lived in -0.7 space I could build anything quickly and make tons of isk'ies off of so much wealth around you, nah Goons are Goons, they get boredom just like many others in dull sec so the come to hi sec (just like low sec pirates) for lol it gives the game (they're bored of) some reason to log in, don't get me wrong I'm not coming down on them just that to me I took a break from eve after being in dull sec and boredom makes you do strange things.
Nullsec has been treated as if it was the redheaded stepchild . Goonwaffe is now recruiting feel free to message me in game for information about joining! |
Tweety Bird
Tackled In Belt
4
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Posted - 2012.09.28 21:34:00 -
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Don't undock. Problem solved. Station spinnin' errrrrrday. |
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
780
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Posted - 2012.09.28 22:14:00 -
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how to counter goon ganks don't undock in freighters with over 1bil |
VegasMirage
The Scope Gallente Federation
113
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Posted - 2012.09.29 17:50:00 -
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I've been inspired, I shall release the Kraken!!! |
7'62 SKS
7.62
2
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Posted - 2012.09.29 21:16:00 -
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Truly inspirational thread.
It was mentioned earlier that these freighter ganks are "always in the same systems." Which systems would those be exactly?
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Slap Chop
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
22
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Posted - 2012.10.02 01:49:00 -
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7'62 SKS wrote:Truly inspirational thread.
It was mentioned earlier that these freighter ganks are "always in the same systems." Which systems would those be exactly?
Poitot |
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
643
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Posted - 2012.10.04 03:38:00 -
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Slap Chop wrote:7'62 SKS wrote:Truly inspirational thread.
It was mentioned earlier that these freighter ganks are "always in the same systems." Which systems would those be exactly?
Poitot
Are you aware that Poitot is the only named system in Syndicate? |
Xolve
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
1135
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Posted - 2012.10.04 05:21:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Are you aware that Poitot is the only named system in Syndicate?
6-24 doesn't care what corp you are in 6-24 doesn't care what alliance you are in 6-24 will ******* kill you Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Ke'Daar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
9
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Posted - 2012.10.04 05:45:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:They are always doing it in same systems,
get yourselve and alt
wait untill they suicide
pop the wreck
convo them, tell them you want xxx amount of isk per freighter or xx amount of loot
profit!!
problem fixed
or just skip the ransomming part to just grief them
I know I should not, but I can not hold it any longer.... Bwuha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha.... |
VegasMirage
186
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Posted - 2012.10.07 16:19:00 -
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How to counter Goon suicide OPs:
there is a game mechanic that can be exploited by freighter pilots
We've been helping pilots get through safely, send me 10 million isk and I can share the exploit. But don't tell anybody else, that's the only thing we ask and no publishing what we show you.
Send isk first its only 10 mill, I'll be sure to tell you the same day you send the isk.
likes watching grown men cry-á (Gň»n+¦Gň¦,) |
Singeabooty Raj
Marcabian 5th Invasion Fleet
331
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Posted - 2012.10.07 16:25:00 -
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VegasMirage wrote:How to counter Goon suicide OPs:
there is a game mechanic that can be exploited by freighter pilots
We've been helping pilots get through safely, send me 10 million isk and I can share the exploit. But don't tell anybody else, that's the only thing we ask and no publishing what we show you.
Send isk first its only 10 mill, I'll be sure to tell you the same day you send the isk.
I have a more convenient offering I can make to the men affected by the current hijinks in Uedama. Contract me the stuff you want moved and I will see it arrives safely at the target destination. Customer satisfaction guaranteed. Black Man with Goggles |
Xylorn Hasher
Sumiyoshi-Kai
45
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Posted - 2012.10.08 07:43:00 -
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Ensign X wrote:FluffyDice wrote:You missed the step where you get concorded for destroying someones property. Except, you don't get CONCORDed for popping their wreck. You get flagged for aggression against the owner of the wreck and his corp, but CONCORD doesn't care.
Not true. Wreck still belongs to previous ship pilot. Popping it causes GCC even in lowsec. Im pretty sure hisec mechanic works the same.
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Sakiya Shiratori
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
1
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Posted - 2012.10.08 08:00:00 -
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Just use an alt with a rookie ship and ninja their stuff. The trick is to stay aligned while you are looting.
If you don't get out, you will still force them to blow up more of the stuff while your alt loose nothing. |
Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
252
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Posted - 2012.10.08 08:10:00 -
[58] - Quote
Pretty sure people have been popping gank wrecks since suicide ganking was invented. |
Backfyre
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.10.08 14:06:00 -
[59] - Quote
Herping yourDerp wrote:how to counter goon ganks don't undock in freighters with over 1bil Actually, I think the "break even" point is more like 600M based upon their recent demonstrations of only needing 4 brutix, an oracle and 5 catalysts.
Perhaps the Eos finally has a use - 3 warfare links to boost passive shield / armor resists. That would at least boost the profit point to 800M in cargo...
Fact is, if you're gonna carry low volume high value items, like officer mods, use a blockade runner fit for null sec and pilot it like your running gate camps in lowsec. If you need to move a couple faction battleships, you can individually pilot them to their final destination in less time than your freighter will make the trip one way.
Goons are just smacking down those rookie pilots who squeal "oooiiiinnnnnk!" as they traverse hisec. |
Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic RvB - BLUE Republic
304
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Posted - 2012.10.08 16:23:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:convo them, tell them you want xxx amount of isk per freighter or xx amount of loot When exactly is this phase of the plan supposed to occur? Because it sounds like it's supposed to take place after the gank has already happened... which is just a bit silly.
Backfyre wrote:Perhaps the Eos finally has a use - 3 warfare links to boost passive shield / armor resists. Nop. Damnation for shield and bonused armor resistance. But like you said it would just raise the minimum profitability threshold a bit. People will still carry billions in the cargo. "For example, if you are thinking about selling a Republic Fleet Firetail as a regular Firetail, be sure that the market volume is high on regular Firetails and that there are plenty of buy/sell contracts for Republic Fleet Firetails. [...] The players most interested in Republic Fleet Firetails are going to be players flying regular ones."-á -- PB |
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Siestaa
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:36:00 -
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lol goons saying "its not about money!"
FAIL PROPAGANDA BEST PROPAGANDA |
Pipa Porto
1179
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Posted - 2012.10.09 15:39:00 -
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Siestaa wrote:lol goons saying "its not about money!"
FAIL PROPAGANDA BEST PROPAGANDA
Where has anyone said that?
Goons have been pretty clear that nearly all of their schemes are about the money. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Bugsy VanHalen
Society of lost Souls
192
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Posted - 2012.10.09 16:22:00 -
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Although I did post earlier about how popping wrecks could be an effective anti ganking tool.
From what I have read the GOONS started the freighter ganking for luls but it has continued because it has proven profitable. As long as they can at least break even replacing their ships they will continue, and possibly scale it up.
The real problem is there are far to many stupid freighter pilots that make this activity highly profitable.
Trying to pop a freighter wreck before they can loot it would certainly be harder than it sounds.
But I will remain in my opinion that the only way to combat this is to hit them in the pocket book. True they are doing it for luls, they are doing it because they are bored. But if it starts costing them hundreds of millions per gank they will slow down if not give up on it.
Unfortunately the only way to truly make it unprofitable is to not make yourself a profitable target. There are hundreds of freighters in and out of Jita every day. They do scan targets before starting the gank. if the freighter one jump behind you is a more profitable gank than you, they will let you pass to hit the higher profit target. they care not who they gank. but they will always choose the highest profit option.
There are far to many stupid freighter pilots hauling far to much value in their holds. Double wrapping your cargo will prevent them from scanning it, but they will certainly ask. What is so valuable to be worth while to double wrap it. If the value of the double wrap was lower than the profit margin than you would be smarter to not double wrap it. They will assume if the cargo is double wrapped that it is worth ganking. In addition double wrapped packages and containers drop with all loot still inside them. there is no loss to waste as there is when only a portion of the cargo contents drops. double wrapped packages and cargo containers guarantee maximum drop value.
I have yet to see a freighter kill mail where I would not consider pilot error/stupidity as the primary reason for the gank. I do not support ganking, but pilots who refuse to fly safe bring it on themselves. |
Backfyre
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
7
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Posted - 2012.10.09 18:12:00 -
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Bugsy VanHalen wrote: Double wrapping your cargo will prevent them from scanning it, but they will certainly ask. What is so valuable to be worth while to double wrap it. If the value of the double wrap was lower than the profit margin than you would be smarter to not double wrap it. They will assume if the cargo is double wrapped that it is worth ganking. In addition double wrapped packages and containers drop with all loot still inside them. there is no loss to waste as there is when only a portion of the cargo contents drops. double wrapped packages and cargo containers guarantee maximum drop value. Makes me want to double wrap a bookmark titled "LOL" and slow boat (autopilot) to Jita in an iteron 5 or a shuttle... |
Hemmo Paskiainen
Armenian Noodle Dip
365
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Posted - 2012.10.09 19:53:00 -
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Pipa Porto wrote:Siestaa wrote:lol goons saying "its not about money!"
FAIL PROPAGANDA BEST PROPAGANDA Where has anyone said that? Goons have been pretty clear that nearly all of their schemes are about the money.
its prolly a way to keep tech artificaly high (lots of tech gos in a jf) to get rid of stockpiles...
troll away dc2 activive in 3..2..1.. CCP FIX BLACK OPS FFS
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Xolve
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
1154
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Posted - 2012.10.09 23:05:00 -
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Backfyre wrote:Makes me want to double wrap a bookmark titled "LOL" and slow boat (autopilot) to Jita in an iteron 5 or a shuttle...
You'll probably get ganked anyway, but probably not by us. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Cyprus Black
363
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Posted - 2012.10.10 04:47:00 -
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I come back from a two month break to find the forums awash with stupidity
Too busy playing The Secret World. EvE has gone stale and boring. |
Infinimo
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
528
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Posted - 2012.10.10 09:18:00 -
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Cyprus Black wrote:I come back from a two month break to find the forums awash with stupidity cool ty for sharing snipe Theta Squad best squad. Monocle crew represent~ |
Pipa Porto
1182
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Posted - 2012.10.10 15:27:00 -
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Hemmo Paskiainen wrote:Pipa Porto wrote:Siestaa wrote:lol goons saying "its not about money!"
FAIL PROPAGANDA BEST PROPAGANDA Where has anyone said that? Goons have been pretty clear that nearly all of their schemes are about the money. its prolly a way to keep tech artificaly high (lots of tech gos in a jf) to get rid of stockpiles... troll away dc2 activive in 3..2..1..
That's what I said. The schemes are generally about making money. EvE: Everyone vs Everyone
-RubyPorto |
Cheshire Katt
Tirpitz Innovations Terrible Space Warriors
16
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Posted - 2012.10.11 04:30:00 -
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Delicia wrote: I just show them my papers and they leave me alone. I paid 300m to blawrf something or other and now I magically am not bothered by goons at all in highsec or elsewhere.
If you need to be made blue by goons, ask blawrf if he is still offering that service for 300m. I understand it was a lifetime deal, which is pretty sweet for me as I expect to stay around a long time
^ This is what my corp did, though we had to pay 1B for the entire corp. Since then they have completely left our Freighters AND our miners alone. |
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Doddy
Excidium. Executive Outcomes
281
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Posted - 2012.10.11 10:46:00 -
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lose your virginity as fast as possible. |
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