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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.15 09:42:00 -
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Due to CCP's final reply and shutdown in face to my early May petition, I don't feel compatible with their business model any more.
My sub ends in some days. I am going to get 2 more months in order to properly shutdown the activities with no harm to any EvE Customer.
Those who have long term open deals with me or one of my corporations or my charity please eve-mail me in order to have every deal properly concluded.
I will eve-mail in game to those playing less often as well in order to give them a fair chance.
I will honor any standing deal about collateral holding, BPO research and such.
I will contact Chribba (hopefully with an official statement by him) about sending him the whole charity NAV so the generous donations don't get lost.
Best regards, Vaerah Vahrokha
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Chevalleis
The Legendary Conquest
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Posted - 2011.07.15 10:45:00 -
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Be well, hope to see you sometime again. Ur graph threads have given me a lot.
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Strrog
Caldari Zero Excavations
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Posted - 2011.07.15 12:13:00 -
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What happened VV? What was the petition about?
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.15 15:29:00 -
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Originally by: Chevalleis Be well, hope to see you sometime again. Ur graph threads have given me a lot.
I'd love to keep playing, I love the people I talk everyday to, I love to post graphs... but how else can I show CCP a token of my disappointment?
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Jackie Fisher
Syrkos Technologies Joint Venture Conglomerate
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Posted - 2011.07.15 15:33:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
I'd love to keep playing, I love the people I talk everyday to, I love to post graphs... but how else can I show CCP a token of my disappointment?
Take them off your Christmas card list?
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Elise DarkStar
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Posted - 2011.07.15 15:34:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
I'd love to keep playing, I love the people I talk everyday to, I love to post graphs... but how else can I show CCP a token of my disappointment?
Start more pointless "look at me" threads.
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Kara Books
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Posted - 2011.07.15 16:24:00 -
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60 days?
Is this your estimate when CCP will begin their Aurum micto transactions thing?
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Issaries Valran
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.15 16:31:00 -
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Can I have your stuff?
I will use it, whatever you give me appropriately to help others...maybe. Probably not.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.15 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 15/07/2011 19:01:46
Originally by: Elise DarkStar
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
I'd love to keep playing, I love the people I talk everyday to, I love to post graphs... but how else can I show CCP a token of my disappointment?
Start more pointless "look at me" threads.
It has a point: to forewarn people who have medium term deals with me and ATM don't play.
Edit: also, I am not at your stage any more, I don't need to post on the forum if by chance I want people to look at me (a thing I don't want, nor care for).
Originally by: Issaries Valran Can I have your stuff?
I will use it, whatever you give me appropriately to help others...maybe. Probably not.
What I will give away, will go to Chribba to actually help RL people in need.
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OllieNorth
Gallente R-K Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.15 19:07:00 -
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You can't leave me VV, you are half of why I pay attention to MD.
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Liberty Eternal
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Posted - 2011.07.15 19:09:00 -
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The game is heading in the wrong direction, don't blame you for leaving VV - made pretty much the same decision myself and haven't regretted it once. There are plenty more virtual Worlds for nerds like us
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Dretzle Omega
Caldari Global Economy Experts
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Posted - 2011.07.15 19:14:00 -
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Originally by: OllieNorth You can't leave me VV, you are half of why I pay attention to MD.
Because of the amusing overreactions? Yeah, me too.
Though, there's plenty of that in GD, but in MD they somehow seem more sophisticated. ---- Only YOU can prevent idiotic posts! |
Nimevere
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Posted - 2011.07.15 19:38:00 -
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Could I please have your stuff?
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Saiph Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.07.15 20:04:00 -
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If you're going to quit EVE, can you come back to Retro?
It's crashy all the time lately, but they're working on a new mudlib so we can hire coders instead of it all being volunteer.
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OllieNorth
Gallente R-K Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.15 20:17:00 -
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What is this Retro?
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente Saiph Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.07.15 20:35:00 -
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RetroMUD
My third-party service My loan service My Character Purchase Program |
Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2011.07.15 20:42:00 -
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Good riddance.
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OllieNorth
Gallente R-K Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:06:00 -
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Hmm, as an old time Medievia player, I find this relevant to my interests.
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AtheistOfFail
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:22:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha ...
Sorry to see you go VV.
PS: Do you remember that machariel I loaned you that time in that place? Did you return that to me because I don't see it.
PSS: Don't leave me, love!
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Nanga Parbat
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:27:00 -
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Wah wah. Good riddance indeed.
The most self important drama queen in MD leaves to make a statement, how fitting.
CCP will gladly file this under their: "don't let the door hit you on the way out" file. |
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OllieNorth
Gallente R-K Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:32:00 -
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Wow, more VV hate in here than I expected.
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AtheistOfFail
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.15 21:35:00 -
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Originally by: Nanga Parbat Wah wah. Good riddance indeed.
The most self important drama queen in MD leaves to make a statement, how fitting.
CCP will gladly file this under their: "don't let the door hit you on the way out" file.
You can go and **** yourself with that attitude.
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Rykker Bow
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Posted - 2011.07.15 23:45:00 -
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I for one will miss you VV. You've been a friend and an inspiration that honesty and integrity can happen in this game.
I'm not sure if I'll be back myself (for different reasons) but I hope that our paths will cross again in future MMO's and IÆll keep an eye out for you.
Good luck with your future endeavors mate.
- Rykker
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Loraine Gess
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Posted - 2011.07.15 23:51:00 -
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Where's that "Bye, *****!" gif?... --------------------
WTS forums directions and common sense
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Koronakesh
Amarr Seekers of a Silent Paradise
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Posted - 2011.07.16 00:48:00 -
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Echoing the "you're one of the reasons I read this subforum" opinion. Sad times.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.16 01:01:00 -
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Originally by: Rykker Bow I for one will miss you VV. You've been a friend and an inspiration that honesty and integrity can happen in this game.
I'm not sure if I'll be back myself (for different reasons) but I hope that our paths will cross again in future MMO's and IÆll keep an eye out for you.
Good luck with your future endeavors mate.
- Rykker
Dear Rykker Bow, you were one of my inspirations at creating better audits, along with LE and RAW23.
You will find me in several MMOs always with the same names:
Vahrokh (Vain) for dragons (IE Retro | Istaria) Vaerah (Vain | Vahrokha) for main women characters (EvE, DFO, Warhammer Online...). Sahrokh for main male / non dragon (WoW | Retro | DA1/2 and others).
In case of doubt, look at the forums. I usually post a lot, everywhere.
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Stealing Honest
Stealing Honest Speculation Group LLC
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Posted - 2011.07.16 01:04:00 -
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Well this sucks.
SH
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.07.16 05:55:00 -
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Hi VV,
Sorry to see you go, but this is a game of 3-4 month breaks per year, im confident you will return in some form (dragon in space?)
Would muchly appreciate a way to contact you via email/instant messenger, as you have a great deal of my wealth tied up in iCandy #4 & i'm a little worried my BPO's will go un-noticed (like last time when your pos ran out of fuel for some days). perhaps we need to organize them to be returned & i payout the collaterized portion or some such.
If my BPO's are the only thing keeping you logged in i'd much rather have them in my hands tbh.
You know how to reach me, look forward to reading you mail.
Candy. ___ iCandy Bonds
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.16 07:05:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 16/07/2011 07:07:41 Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 16/07/2011 07:07:23
Originally by: Candy Oshea Hi VV,
Sorry to see you go, but this is a game of 3-4 month breaks per year, im confident you will return in some form (dragon in space?)
Would muchly appreciate a way to contact you via email/instant messenger, as you have a great deal of my wealth tied up in iCandy #4 & i'm a little worried my BPO's will go un-noticed (like last time when your pos ran out of fuel for some days). perhaps we need to organize them to be returned & i payout the collaterized portion or some such.
If my BPO's are the only thing keeping you logged in i'd much rather have them in my hands tbh.
You know how to reach me, look forward to reading you mail.
Candy.
Candy I am forced to do this by my own principles, I am not "burned out" about EvE or bored nor stopped to like EvE (because EvE is you, Rykker, Raw23... I love your sandbox castles). It's a litigation between me and CCP themselves.
Also, you are not one of the "semi active" guys I have deals with, I'd need to have everything closed with them first, before your BPOs become "the reason I keep subbed".
Edit: I may be contacted on Skype (not very often) as nickname vahrokh (yeah who could guess, eh?) and via email as vahrokh at vahrokh dot com.
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Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission EVE Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.07.16 07:24:00 -
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This is sad news.
While I did not always agreed with you and a lot of the stuff you posted was way over my head, I appreciate(d) your attitude and stance very much.
Recognizing also Liberty's and Rykker's comments, I share the same notion. I logged in twice since Incarna to change skills, but pretty much stopped to play the game. -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager |
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.07.16 07:52:00 -
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Quote: Payment Schedule: * 1st Interest payment = 28/07/11
* Maturity Date = 28/08/11
VV,
Are you able to REALISTICALLY deliver my BPO's as per the above maturity date?
or would you (for your sake) like the dates brought forward, so as you can close out your operation earlier than the 28/8/11, i understand if you chose to bring the date forward that it may/may not effect any research you have going on this, im fine with this.
What i can do is essentially 'call' the collateralized part of iCandy #4, give investors the option to either;
1) Cash out Now with 1 month's interest. 2) Convert the bonds to High yield, thus 8% interest to be paid. 3) Attempt to organise another trusted researcher to take over your role in iCandy, (very tentative to do this tbh.)
I hope you aren't hurt by my posting here, as you can tell im quite concerned for my BPO's future, it's not everyday someone holding 6b worth of my BPO's decides to leave the game. My fear revolves around your not being contactable in game.
Again, i hope you can be forthcoming & realistic with your intentions. I also think its very sad to lose such a pillar to the community that you have become.
Candy. ___ iCandy Bonds
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.16 08:11:00 -
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Candy I will keep subscribed enough to see your BPOs returned, CCP permitting.
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Mu-Shi Ai
The Chrysalis Group
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Posted - 2011.07.16 11:35:00 -
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I can't say I'm disappointed to see a source of drama find the exit.
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.07.16 11:53:00 -
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Originally by: Candy Oshea [ 3) Attempt to organise another trusted researcher to take over your role in iCandy, (very tentative to do this tbh.)
I sent you a mail ingame about this if VV wants to leave earlier.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.07.16 12:05:00 -
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I'm very sorry to hear you're leaving VV. Despite our differences (my very first forum fight anywhere on the interwebz was here on MD with you!) I have come to respect you and your principles a great deal and can say without hesitation that MD will be worse off, although a little more peaceful, for your absence.
Can I suggest that rather than closing down the charity work you look into having it continue in your absence?
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Alain Kinsella
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.16 16:31:00 -
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Sorry to see you go. Despite the naysayers floating about, you will be missed.
I work in RL Finance, but not as a trader, so your posts here in MD has been very useful to my own understanding of how markets work.
If you would like someplace to store any cleaned, 'off forum' copy of the TA thread (since we'll lose that to the new forum) I'd be happy to host it for free. There are a couple options I have for enabling this, eve-mail me if interested.
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Zeta Zhul
Caldari Preemptive Paranoia
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Posted - 2011.07.16 17:30:00 -
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Will miss you
Heading out the door too
Cya round Space Cowboy....
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Albert Doyle
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2011.07.16 17:39:00 -
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What kind of market newbie would I be without begging for some of your stuff?
On a more serious note, i'm not reading anything here about why you are leaving except a rather nebulous refrence to a petition (presumably gone awry). I'm well aware of your stance on CCP moving forward, but is there a new part to this story or have you simply made up your mind about something from weeks ago when the rage was at full-froth?
Either way, best of luck. Perhaps one day you'll return to lurk while i'm a successful marketeer.
Originally by: Mark Twain Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.
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Rhivre
Caldari TarNec
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Posted - 2011.07.16 21:10:00 -
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You can always play the new hellgate :) Its fairly funky
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Kethas Protagonist
Protagonist Ventures
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Posted - 2011.07.16 22:49:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 Can I suggest that rather than closing down the charity work you look into having it continue in your absence?
I think this makes a lot of sense.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.17 06:15:00 -
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Originally by: Kethas Protagonist
Originally by: RAW23 Can I suggest that rather than closing down the charity work you look into having it continue in your absence?
I think this makes a lot of sense.
How would it work in my absence?
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Brock Nelson
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Posted - 2011.07.17 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Originally by: Kethas Protagonist
Originally by: RAW23 Can I suggest that rather than closing down the charity work you look into having it continue in your absence?
I think this makes a lot of sense.
How would it work in my absence?
Why does it need to work in your absence?
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Ray McCormack
Nordar Innovations.
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Posted - 2011.07.17 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: Brock Nelson
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Originally by: Kethas Protagonist
Originally by: RAW23 Can I suggest that rather than closing down the charity work you look into having it continue in your absence?
I think this makes a lot of sense.
How would it work in my absence?
Why does it need to work in your absence?
Stupid request, anyone can continue it.
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.07.17 22:34:00 -
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Originally by: Breaker77
Originally by: Candy Oshea [ 3) Attempt to organise another trusted researcher to take over your role in iCandy, (very tentative to do this tbh.)
I sent you a mail ingame about this if VV wants to leave earlier.
hey,
Had troubles with internet over the weekend. im at work now ill check evegate & respond.
For now ill leave the BPO's with VV. ___ iCandy Bonds
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Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.07.18 00:51:00 -
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VV I can always take over the charity fund, throw me an eve-mail in-game.
Grendell ♥
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Exordium8
Minmatar Not a Shell Corp
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Posted - 2011.07.18 01:51:00 -
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Edited by: Exordium8 on 18/07/2011 01:51:28 Well, now I'm sad.
Sorry to hear you're leaving, but you gotta do what you gotta do. --------------------------------- Pillage, then burn. Everything is air-droppable at least once. There is no 'overkill.' There is only 'open fire' and 'time to reload.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.18 07:44:00 -
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Originally by: Candy Oshea
Again, i hope you can be forthcoming & realistic with your intentions. I also think its very sad to lose such a pillar to the community that you have become.
Candy.
I am humbled by your words. I am just the average Istaria MMO player, most are like that
I have opened a 3rd, escalated ticket, for 2 senior GMs. I want to see how this goes, I don't have many hopes though. They have a "I don't hear you TRALALALALALALALA!" approach to anything which is not open cheerleading.
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Atima
Minmatar House of Marbles
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Posted - 2011.07.18 09:16:00 -
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I think I've missed the point where you tell us what the problem actually is?
I was under the impression it had to do with paying $100 to do whatever it is you do - And they fixed that.
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.07.18 09:24:00 -
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Originally by: Atima I think I've missed the point where you tell us what the problem actually is?
I was under the impression it had to do with paying $100 to do whatever it is you do - And they fixed that.
This has nothing to do with the lincensing scheme, it's other (worse) issues.
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Atima
Minmatar House of Marbles
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Posted - 2011.07.18 09:39:00 -
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Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Originally by: Atima I think I've missed the point where you tell us what the problem actually is?
I was under the impression it had to do with paying $100 to do whatever it is you do - And they fixed that.
This has nothing to do with the lincensing scheme, it's other (worse) issues.
Care to elaborate?
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Albert Doyle
Gallente University of Caille
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Posted - 2011.07.18 19:46:00 -
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Originally by: Atima
Originally by: Vaerah Vahrokha
Originally by: Atima I think I've missed the point where you tell us what the problem actually is?
I was under the impression it had to do with paying $100 to do whatever it is you do - And they fixed that.
This has nothing to do with the lincensing scheme, it's other (worse) issues.
Care to elaborate?
Please do.
Originally by: Mark Twain Don't go around saying the world owes you a living. The world owes you nothing. It was here first.
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Hel O'Ween
Men On A Mission EVE Trade Consortium
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Posted - 2011.07.19 09:04:00 -
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Originally by: Atima And they fixed that.
No, they didn't. They went "Uhmm ... let's rethink this, we'll tell ya later ...". But thereafter all we heard was the sweet sound of silence. -- EVEWalletAware - an offline wallet manager |
Rhivre
Caldari TarNec
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Posted - 2011.07.19 11:00:00 -
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Originally by: Hel O'Ween
Originally by: Atima And they fixed that.
No, they didn't. They went "Uhmm ... let's rethink this, we'll tell ya later ...". But thereafter all we heard was the sweet sound of silence.
iirc they went "the 99 dollars is being rethought, we will get back to you after the summer"
Its not the end of summer :)
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.08.03 10:30:00 -
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My sub expires at this downtime.
Those with open deals / collateral / BPOs research don't worry, I'll resub in some days for 1 more month so I may orderly close all the business I had the pleausure to have with you.
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Kei Darker
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Posted - 2011.08.03 21:46:00 -
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Whatever the actual issue here happens to be (that you are petitioning)... it would be great if you would let us know once you actually leave - since for whatever reason you refuse to let us know now.
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Breaker77
Gallente Reclamation Industries
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Posted - 2011.08.04 00:31:00 -
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Originally by: Kei Darker
it would be great if you would let us know once you actually leave
You can't post on the forums once your sub is expired.
Quote: since for whatever reason you refuse to let us know now.
I think it's because you can only have one monocle
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.08.16 08:38:00 -
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In reference to my last long term Customer he showed up today so we could close our deal in the best way.
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Tasko Pal
Aliastra
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Posted - 2011.08.16 08:43:00 -
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Confirming that I am the last long term customer and that I am very satisfied with the service that VV has provided me. I contracted with VV starting in March and received consistent and diligent service. Further, VV was very accommodating to my circumstances as an infrequently gamer and was entrusted with significant assets. Needless to say, should VV ever offer these sorts of services again, I would use them.
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Candy Oshea
Amarr Techfree Investment Group
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Posted - 2011.08.16 10:31:00 -
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im pretty confident in VV showing up on the 28/08/11 also ___ iCandy Bonds
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Vaerah Vahrokha
Minmatar Vahrokh Consulting
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Posted - 2011.09.08 08:17:00 -
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Edited by: Vaerah Vahrokha on 08/09/2011 08:17:26 All the outstanding deals have been finalized.
I will take my leave now, but first I wish to thank the many who made my living in EvE a fruitful and unforgettable experience: Shar, Chribba, Raw23, Rykker Bow, Candy Oshea, Caleb, Julian Koll, Rogue Halo and ALL those who grandiously donated ISK to the VAERT RL emergency relief charity.
I wish also to thank MD in general for having put me on the right track about economy and eventually making me become an RL trader when I lost my last job.
Finally, I wish to thank CCP for having invented EvE. The gaming world would miss a lot without this MMO.
Farewell to everyone, live safe and prosper!
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