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Kerrio DiSantis	Posted - 2011.07.22 05:50:00 - [31] Originally by: Chepe Nolon Like I told you in the last mail, it's not me that makes the site. It's all the people that uses it and contributes. That's the beauty with a wiki. Make it good, and you will have no problem being a nice addition to all the other sites. The "beauty" is the downfall of many (I daresay most) wikis I've encountered so far. Just because anyone can edit means... The owner is likely to put less effort in it (and yes, the "site is up, please fill out" comments lead me to think this is the case here as well) Commonplace entries and glaring gaps. If you're looking for a specific information you likely end up into a stub article and start over with google searching or even trying to do some own research. Inconsistencies, edit wars, trolling and other nuisances all too common if more than just a few persons are involved in a project. I could extend this list even further, but so far I've seen only a few wiki's which are suitable, and they're all heavily moderated and not "free for all, everyone can edit".
Chepe Nolon Gallente Inquest	Posted - 2011.07.22 11:15:00 - [32] Originally by: Kerrio DiSantis I could extend this list even further, but so far I've seen only a few wiki's which are suitable, and they're all heavily moderated and not "free for all, everyone can edit". Yep. That's why the front page and the Mission index is moderated by dedicated editors. This is kind of a moderation, like the one you got to have on custom made web pages with an option to submit. I've been playing this game since 2003 and I've seen the downfall of many eve related web pages that is not of the wiki/forum concept. Including my own. Plus it has a invite code so you have to play eve to be able to write something there. So it's not free for all and it's not unmoderated. Chepe Nolon -- http://eve-survival.org
DeMichael Crimson Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2011.07.22 11:41:00 - [33] Edited by: DeMichael Crimson on 22/07/2011 11:42:40 Originally by: Kerrio DiSantis Originally by: Chepe Nolon Like I told you in the last mail, it's not me that makes the site. It's all the people that uses it and contributes. That's the beauty with a wiki. Make it good, and you will have no problem being a nice addition to all the other sites. The "beauty" is the downfall of many (I daresay most) wikis I've encountered so far. Just because anyone can edit means... The owner is likely to put less effort in it (and yes, the "site is up, please fill out" comments lead me to think this is the case here as well) Commonplace entries and glaring gaps. If you're looking for a specific information you likely end up into a stub article and start over with google searching or even trying to do some own research. Inconsistencies, edit wars, trolling and other nuisances all too common if more than just a few persons are involved in a project. I could extend this list even further, but so far I've seen only a few wiki's which are suitable, and they're all heavily moderated and not "free for all, everyone can edit". Not really. The Evelopedia is a good example of not being heavily moderated and is free for all players to edit and or add info / create pages. This is not the first time that Eve Survival has been down. It's been down quite a few times before though not as long as this last one. However, anything over 24 hrs is unacceptable. Trying to contact someone in charge (Janitor) in the chat channel to answer questions about submitting new mission info is like trying to find a needle in a haystack. Also the Mission Reports themselves need to be updated from the 'Comments' players have posted on the pages. My understanding is the OP has paid up for at least 2 years and is asking Community members with technical experience to help set it up, probably on a format like the Mission Reports from Eve Survival. If I had the technical know how, I'd help. When it is set up, I'll be more than happy to submit info to it.
Chepe Nolon Gallente Inquest	Posted - 2011.07.22 12:44:00 - [34] Edited by: Chepe Nolon on 22/07/2011 12:43:50 Originally by: DeMichael Crimson This is not the first time that Eve Survival has been down. It's been down quite a few times before though not as long as this last one. However, anything over 24 hrs is unacceptable. It's a free service. You don't have to contribute. You don't have to pay for it. You can use mirrors or the cache function of google. And you still call it "unacceptable"? Chepe Nolon -- http://eve-survival.org
Lady Go Diveher	Posted - 2011.07.22 12:51:00 - [35] Eve-survival.org is back up and running, BTW. It has been for half the life of this thread. If you really REAALLY need the site, and can't bear to be without it for 5minutes, just use a free tool to save the website to your local disk. It's really small, and won't take long. Also? I just tricked you into reading my signature.
DeMichael Crimson Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2011.07.23 17:26:00 - [36] Originally by: Lady Go Diveher Eve-survival.org is back up and running, BTW. It has been for half the life of this thread. If you really REAALLY need the site, and can't bear to be without it for 5minutes, just use a free tool to save the website to your local disk. It's really small, and won't take long. Eve-survival.org has been up and running for half the life of this thread? Lady, I don't know where you get your facts from but you really need to double check before posting. BTW, everybody already knew the site was back up and running. The site was already down for a day or two before somebody posted a thread asking about it on 7-15-2011. This thread was posted on 7-17-2011. The site was back up on 7-21-2011 according to this thread. Then you post here on 7-22-2011 making false statements. The site was down for over a week which doesn't translate into 5 minutes.
ShadowandLight Amarr Cryptonym Sleepers Test Alliance Please Ignore	Posted - 2011.07.26 19:20:00 - [37] we've made some great changes in the past week. New website is up, the wiki is 100% working and editable as well. We are really looking for people to come and help grow the site and the community so stop on by! Have an idea you would like to see on a PVE site like ours? Drop us a suggestion on the forums. www.surviveve.com ------- The new HQ for PVE in Eve Online. www.SurvivEve.com [email protected] [b]"The Lord loosed upon them his fierce anger All of his fury and rage.
DeMichael Crimson Minmatar Republic University	Posted - 2011.07.27 11:53:00 - [38] Looking good.


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