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Uearel Atram
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Posted - 2011.07.18 00:09:00 -
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Right now, 0.0 is all about who has the most supercaps. Sure, subcaps are needed to take down jammers, but since they have no reinforce timers, they're easy to take down.
The only counter to supercaps right now is MORE supercaps, which makes 0.0 wars fairly predicable since subcaps are basically flies to supers, and ensures that the people who have the most supercaps now are able to create the most supercaps by having control of the best resources with their current supers.
This leads to a self-perpetuating cycle (have the most supercaps->able to build the most supercaps->repeat).
For example, look at the russians. They have had the east for YEARS, all because they have a gigantic supercap fleet, largely created from botting.
Supers were okay when they were rare, but now we're seeing fleets of 150 supercarriers and 50 titans (with 200 triage carriers), which of course would require an insane amount of subcaps to beat.
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Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries
R-I-P
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Posted - 2011.07.18 00:50:00 -
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Well, because they are kind of.....well, super....
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Miilla
Minmatar
Hulkageddon Orphanage
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Posted - 2011.07.18 00:52:00 -
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Rumour has it, if you cry loud and long enough Supercap's self destruct.
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Jacob Stiller
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Posted - 2011.07.18 01:00:00 -
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 Originally by: Uearel Atram
Right now, 0.0 is all about who has the most supercaps. Sure, subcaps are needed to take down jammers, but since they have no reinforce timers, they're easy to take down.
The only counter to supercaps right now is MORE supercaps, which makes 0.0 wars fairly predicable since subcaps are basically flies to supers, and ensures that the people who have the most supercaps now are able to create the most supercaps by having control of the best resources with their current supers.
This leads to a self-perpetuating cycle (have the most supercaps->able to build the most supercaps->repeat).
For example, look at the russians. They have had the east for YEARS, all because they have a gigantic supercap fleet, largely created from botting.
Supers were okay when they were rare, but now we're seeing fleets of 150 supercarriers and 50 titans (with 200 triage carriers), which of course would require an insane amount of subcaps to beat.
Seeing all of the vet complaints about caps and supercaps, I've being throwing the idea in my head of T3 battleships that specialize in anti-cap and anti-supercap warfare. However, they would only be about as effective as a typical T1 BS in subcap warfare. Hence, they would be an economical counter against caps/supercaps but would be uneconomical to use against subcaps.
And, no, I don't mean that it could solo a titan. Rather, a small gang of around 10 could kill a titan.
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Rune Star
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Posted - 2011.07.18 01:00:00 -
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Originally by: Miilla
Rumour has it, if you cry loud and long enough Supercap's self destruct.
I think I'm in love.
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Ranka Mei
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.18 01:06:00 -
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Originally by: Uearel Atram
Right now, 0.0 is all about who has the most supercaps. Sure, subcaps are needed to take down jammers, but since they have no reinforce timers, they're easy to take down.
The only counter to supercaps right now is MORE supercaps, which makes 0.0 wars fairly predicable since subcaps are basically flies to supers, and ensures that the people who have the most supercaps now are able to create the most supercaps by having control of the best resources with their current supers.
This leads to a self-perpetuating cycle (have the most supercaps->able to build the most supercaps->repeat).
For example, look at the russians. They have had the east for YEARS, all because they have a gigantic supercap fleet, largely created from botting.
Supers were okay when they were rare, but now we're seeing fleets of 150 supercarriers and 50 titans (with 200 triage carriers), which of course would require an insane amount of subcaps to beat.
The problem is not supercaps, it's the Russian botting (and CCP blatantly allowing it).
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Naomi Wildfire
Amarr
Spricer
Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.07.18 01:28:00 -
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You just have to remove fuel consumption and reduce the RoF of Doomsdays to 5 seconds.
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Kion Clarix
Rage and Terror
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2011.07.18 01:35:00 -
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Everyone crying about supercaps probably doesn't have one
Stop crying 
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AnzacPaul
the united
Negative Ten.
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Posted - 2011.07.18 01:43:00 -
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Originally by: Kion Clarix
Everyone crying about supercaps probably doesn't have one
Stop crying
+1
Blobbing is the issue, not Supers
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Beelzebubz
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Posted - 2011.07.18 02:10:00 -
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capital idea!
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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2011.07.18 02:17:00 -
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Counter to SuperCaptial class ships!     
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.18 02:49:00 -
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Edited by: Ris Dnalor on 18/07/2011 02:49:03
supers will be "balanced" this winter. what's your next highest priority complaint?
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Scerolikk Teromni
Atrocious Order
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Posted - 2011.07.18 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Uearel Atram
Right now, 0.0 is all about who has the most supercaps. Sure, subcaps are needed to take down jammers, but since they have no reinforce timers, they're easy to take down.
The only counter to supercaps right now is MORE supercaps, which makes 0.0 wars fairly predicable since subcaps are basically flies to supers, and ensures that the people who have the most supercaps now are able to create the most supercaps by having control of the best resources with their current supers.
This leads to a self-perpetuating cycle (have the most supercaps->able to build the most supercaps->repeat).
For example, look at the russians. They have had the east for YEARS, all because they have a gigantic supercap fleet, largely created from botting.
Supers were okay when they were rare, but now we're seeing fleets of 150 supercarriers and 50 titans (with 200 triage carriers), which of course would require an insane amount of subcaps to beat.
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Kebabski
Vae Nexon
Neon Equinox
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Posted - 2011.07.18 03:04:00 -
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stop whining already, idiots
'Peachy Lil Babe'
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Headerman
Minmatar
Quovis
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
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Posted - 2011.07.18 03:06:00 -
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Originally by: MeBiatch
Counter to SuperCaptial class ships!
+10000000000000000000000000
As you know, i am all for this, and i build Super caps.
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ctttttttt
Total Mayhem.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.07.18 03:59:00 -
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Originally by: MeBiatch
Counter to SuperCaptial class ships!
cool so it would be tech II dread blobs instead of super carriers. always liked guns better any how.
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Blacksquirrel
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Posted - 2011.07.18 04:03:00 -
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Add an an anti super bonus only to dreads... So they dont become the next, and add anti drone stuffs.
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Joey Moonbeam
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Posted - 2011.07.18 04:16:00 -
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Originally by: Ris Dnalor
supers will be "balanced" this winter. what's your next highest priority complaint?
Improve hybrids.
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MeBiatch
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Posted - 2011.07.18 04:28:00 -
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Originally by: ctttttttt
Originally by: MeBiatch
Counter to SuperCaptial class ships!
cool so it would be tech II dread blobs instead of super carriers. always liked guns better any how.
note look at the sensor strength of the juggernauts (eq to a bs) so they can be countered by ecm's... which will make sub cap fleets a MUST if you want to duke it out with caps and super caps...
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