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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.07.18 19:26:00 -
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Edited by: RAW23 on 18/07/2011 19:26:43 A few weeks ago I started a competition to try to help encourage community-based activism amongst eve-players. The thread was rapidly kicked over to the Events and Gatherings forum and likely had very little to do with the burst activity that followed on from the events of the Incarna deployment and the surrounding leaks. Despite this there is still 10bil of prize money on the table and a considerable number of protests of various forms to choose the winner (7.5bil) and the runner-up (2.5bil) from.
My initial intention was to have the judging done by a panel of the great and the good. However, the feelers I put out were not always welcomed and I was unable to find a sufficiently well-balanced team that I was happy with. So I will fall back on the democratic (or ochlocratic) expedient of a popular vote. Due to the possibility of a vote split on 'party lines' this may well lead to an interesting result. But as the old saying goes, 'Hail Eris!! All hail discordia!!!'.
I have compiled a short-list of four of my favourite acts of dissent. The criteria were effectiveness and creativity within the spirit of the game. There was no criterion for the end aimed at, though, and one of the four entries is an inventive protest against the general run of anti-CCP/Incarna/NeX protest. The other three fall more within the mainstream.
In order to vote, simply post the number or name of your favourite. The votes will be tallied one week from now (I'll bump the thread once a day) with the first prize going to the project with the highest vote and the second prize going to that with the second highest number. Each character may only vote once but there is obviously nothing to stop alt voting.
So, the nominees are:
1) Kristina Vanszar for the 'Jita Monument Protest' This one obviously scored highly for effectiveness given the media attention it brought to the issues. Also extended beyond Jita.
2) Tobiaz for the 'Unsub Tally Thread' A simple premise but evidently an idea lots of people could get behind and a project that seems to have made an impact on CCP (going on CSM statements).
3) Wyke Mossari and Liberty Eternal for 'The Great Luminaire Titan Scam' One of my favourites. Wyke and Liberty led an attempt to get protesters to blow up the Luminaire Titan. What the 400 or so who followed them didn't know is that they were not sympathetic to the protesters and the aim was to damage the Jita protest by moving large numbers of players elsewhere. A short-lived effort but with lots of EvE spirit.
4) Maziy and Dimitri Fukoyama for the 'John Turbefield Thread' Lots of very creative artwork in this thread. Helped create a new divinity in the EvE pantheon and provided light relief for both sides of the debate. The prize here will be split between the OP and the first creative artist.
So, there are your choices. Vote now!
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Jasdemi
Interstellar Whine Brewery Monocle Overlords
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Posted - 2011.07.18 19:29:00 -
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4) Maziy and Dimitri Fukoyama for the 'John Turbefield Thread'
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.07.18 19:36:00 -
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None. No single individual is more important than the rest that participated. More prominent in the public eye maybe, but without the rest, no one would have noticed them either. Putting them on a pedestal is a insult towards all those that took part in the protests. --------
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Desert Ice78
Gryphon River Industries R-I-P
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Posted - 2011.07.18 19:46:00 -
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1) because I was there....
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.07.18 19:49:00 -
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Originally by: Abrazzar None. No single individual is more important than the rest that participated. More prominent in the public eye maybe, but without the rest, no one would have noticed them either. Putting them on a pedestal is a insult towards all those that took part in the protests.
The point of the prizes was not to reward people for protesting but to encourgae people to organise (very loosely construed in the case of the Turbefield thread) activities.
There is no intention to put these people on a pedestal as 'good people', only to give them a small amount of cash. When I first started the original prize thread I had no idea that the protests would grow into a genuine mass movement although I was keen on encouraging any sort of mass activism. I'm sorry if you find this insulting in some way but I fear that this feeling might arise from a misunderstanding of the purpose of the prize in the first place.
I'll take your vote as a vote that I keep the money for myself though 
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T'amber Anomandari Demaleon
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Posted - 2011.07.18 21:39:00 -
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Edited by: T''amber Anomandari Demaleon on 18/07/2011 21:39:50 :cough:
Microtransactions? Click here and vote Yes, No or Cosmetic only
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FC Tyler Durden
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Posted - 2011.07.18 22:29:00 -
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1st: Jita monument protest 2nd: John Turbefield thread
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Kirkland Langue
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Posted - 2011.07.18 22:43:00 -
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So, this is basically a thread. About some threads. About a Protest. Against CCP.
Can we just vote that you use the 10B and purchase PLEXes off of the market, place them on to an alt account, and let the Alt account go inactive without using the Plexes? That seems the result with the most "in the spirit of the Protests" spirit.
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Khira Kitamatsu
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Posted - 2011.07.18 22:56:00 -
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I just love the fact that you continue to neglect that the Jita Fly In Protest was actually my ideal and started on your very thread and give the credit to someone else. Kristina V came along 2 days later and started another thread based off my ideal and she gets credit for it. How does that happen?
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FC Tyler Durden
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Posted - 2011.07.18 23:06:00 -
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Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu I just love the fact that you continue to neglect that the Jita Fly In Protest was actually my ideal and started on your very thread and give the credit to someone else. Kristina V came along 2 days later and started another thread based off my ideal and she gets credit for it. How does that happen?
It may have been your idea, but the contest post specifies "the most creative acts of legitimate protest". If your idea of an act of legitimate protest is one post in one thread, you're mental.
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Khira Kitamatsu
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Posted - 2011.07.18 23:12:00 -
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Edited by: Khira Kitamatsu on 18/07/2011 23:14:15
Originally by: FC Tyler Durden
Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu I just love the fact that you continue to neglect that the Jita Fly In Protest was actually my ideal and started on your very thread and give the credit to someone else. Kristina V came along 2 days later and started another thread based off my ideal and she gets credit for it. How does that happen?
It may have been your idea, but the contest post specifies "the most creative acts of legitimate protest". If your idea of an act of legitimate protest is one post in one thread, you're mental.
Do you think I only posted my ideal in one thread? The very same day I started a thread 6/22/2011 to start promoting the Jita Fly in. Kristina didn't start hers until the 24th. She was not the first to promote the Jita Protest...that was my ideal.
We were also in game promoting it. Went to different chat channels to get people to participate.
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Saia Tae Arragosa
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Posted - 2011.07.18 23:29:00 -
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I think credit should be given where credit is due. I vote for Khira Kitmatsu, a quick search shows she posted numerous times regarding this(not only in RAWs first thread but numerous ones - including her own) and got the protest going long before Kristina ever did.
My vote is for Khira.
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Maeve Kelly
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Posted - 2011.07.19 01:19:00 -
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Edited by: Maeve Kelly on 19/07/2011 01:22:35 Khira was the first to suggest the Jita fly in and was in game getting everyone to do it before Kristina Vanszar. Why is it that Kristina Vanszar is getting the credit when there is a thread that Khira originally posted in http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1534755 dated 22/06/2011 23:49:56? Then Khira created her own thread http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1534789&page=1 dated 2011.06.22 23:56:00. Again, PRIOR to ANY posts or threads made by Kristina Vanszar.
All votes for the Jita fly-in should go to Khira. And if Khira doen't get credit for starting this, it sounds to me like some sort of scam for one of your alts (so you don't actually have to pay it) or one of your friends to get credit for someone else's idea.
I vote for KHIRA'S idea of the Jita Fly in.
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Important Person
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Posted - 2011.07.19 02:19:00 -
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LOL protesters. Still can't agree on anything.
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Maziy
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Posted - 2011.07.19 02:33:00 -
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Wow, lol....
When I posted the Turbefield thread, I had no idea that it would become so popular. I enjoyed reading the responses and viewing the vast sea of creative pictures. That was reward enough for me.
I appreciate the nod, but I simply cannot be credited for what happened after I started that thread. The credit goes to the most amazing group of online gamers ever..... the Eve community. :)
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Important Person
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Posted - 2011.07.19 02:46:00 -
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So many hard choices.
1) Post CCP investor details and ask people to spam them in protest thread. 2) Ask lulzsec to ddos EvE again. 3) Overload Jita to grief normal players trying to use market. 4) Personal threats against CCP employees. 5) CCP corporate restructuring plans. 6) Self martyrdom without realising you're not as popular as your ego.
I'll still with 1. Truly shows the spirit of the protests.
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Solosky
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Posted - 2011.07.19 02:58:00 -
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Rewarding protesters with money is nonsensual idea. Especially author of 2) because either he cancelled account/s or he is hypocritic liar - in both cases he doesn't need any prize.
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Coffe's Babe
Caldari Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
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Posted - 2011.07.19 03:10:00 -
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Edited by: Coffe''s Babe on 19/07/2011 03:11:23
Originally by: Solosky Rewarding protesters with money is nonsensual idea. Especially author of 2) because either he cancelled account/s or he is hypocritic liar - in both cases he doesn't need any prize.
This.
But if there is money in Event Planning and PR in EvE i'd like to get the notice as well. Jita flash mob! Smart people have quotes in their sig - me |

Sader Rykane
Amarr The Dark Space Initiative Revival Of The Talocan Empire
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Posted - 2011.07.19 03:17:00 -
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Quote: 4) Maziy and Dimitri Fukoyama for the 'John Turbefield Thread' Lots of very creative artwork in this thread. Helped create a new divinity in the EvE pantheon and provided light relief for both sides of the debate. The prize here will be split between the OP and the first creative artist.
Hilariously enough; the guy who posted right before me must have had the same idea as me. The difference is I actually photoshopped something so it took me longer to get mine up =(.
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Maeve Kelly
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Posted - 2011.07.19 04:39:00 -
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Originally by: FC Tyler Durden
Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu I just love the fact that you continue to neglect that the Jita Fly In Protest was actually my ideal and started on your very thread and give the credit to someone else. Kristina V came along 2 days later and started another thread based off my ideal and she gets credit for it. How does that happen?
It may have been your idea, but the contest post specifies "the most creative acts of legitimate protest". If your idea of an act of legitimate protest is one post in one thread, you're mental.
I don't see how you can give credit to Kristina Vanszar for coming to this forum and posting another thread about something someone was already doing. If you look, Khira Kitamatsu posted the date and time the fly-in was supposed to occur in her thread. She was also IN GAME prior to that time advertising trying to rally players to Jita.
All Kristina Vanszar did was see what was going on in game, and 7 minutes before the scheduled time (established by Khira Kitamatsu in her protest thread posted two days prior), come to this forum to just post ANOTHER thread about something another player was ALREADY doing in-game.
Kristina Vanszar's "invite" thread to the Jita Fly-In was an invitation to an event someone else had already started. Question is, are you giving HER credit accidentally because you were not aware of who REALLY started it, or is Kristina Vanszar claiming to have started the Jita Fly-In protest? Either way, it has already been shown that Khira Kitamatsu had the idea first and I know was in game "rallying the troops" prior to and during the event.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.07.19 05:00:00 -
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Originally by: Maeve Kelly
Originally by: FC Tyler Durden
Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu I just love the fact that you continue to neglect that the Jita Fly In Protest was actually my ideal and started on your very thread and give the credit to someone else. Kristina V came along 2 days later and started another thread based off my ideal and she gets credit for it. How does that happen?
It may have been your idea, but the contest post specifies "the most creative acts of legitimate protest". If your idea of an act of legitimate protest is one post in one thread, you're mental.
I don't see how you can give credit to Kristina Vanszar for coming to this forum and posting another thread about something someone was already doing. If you look, Khira Kitamatsu posted the date and time the fly-in was supposed to occur in her thread. She was also IN GAME prior to that time advertising trying to rally players to Jita.
All Kristina Vanszar did was see what was going on in game, and 7 minutes before the scheduled time (established by Khira Kitamatsu in her protest thread posted two days prior), come to this forum to just post ANOTHER thread about something another player was ALREADY doing in-game.
Kristina Vanszar's "invite" thread to the Jita Fly-In was an invitation to an event someone else had already started. Question is, are you giving HER credit accidentally because you were not aware of who REALLY started it, or is Kristina Vanszar claiming to have started the Jita Fly-In protest? Either way, it has already been shown that Khira Kitamatsu had the idea first and I know was in game "rallying the troops" prior to and during the event.
Kristina appears on the short list because someone actually submitted the thread she started, as I asked for in my original thread. Khira may well have organised things too but despite stating this, no supporting material was submitted. If anyone wants to send the links my way I would be happy to accept her as a write in candidate.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.07.19 05:02:00 -
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Originally by: Kirkland Langue So, this is basically a thread. About some threads. About a Protest. Against CCP.
Not really. I suggest you direct your attention to number three on the short list, which was an anti-protest protest.
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Krotius
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Posted - 2011.07.19 05:15:00 -
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Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu I just love the fact that you continue to neglect that the Jita Fly In Protest was actually my ideal and started on your very thread and give the credit to someone else. Kristina V came along 2 days later and started another thread based off my ideal and she gets credit for it. How does that happen?
i+de+al [ahy-dee-uhl, ahy-deel] ûnoun 1. a conception of something in its perfection. 2. a standard of perfection or excellence. 3. a person or thing conceived as embodying such a conception or conforming to such a standard, and taken as a model for imitation: Thomas Jefferson was his ideal.
i+de+a [ahy-dee-uh, ahy-deeuh] Show IPA ûnoun 1. any conception existing in the mind as a result of mental understanding, awareness, or activity. 2. a thought, conception, or notion: That is an excellent idea. 3. an impression: He gave me a general idea of how he plans to run the department.
Now, which did you have?
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Uuali
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Posted - 2011.07.19 06:16:00 -
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EVE is real man! Just not in the way CCP depicts it. lol!
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Maeve Kelly
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Posted - 2011.07.19 06:40:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 Edited by: RAW23 on 19/07/2011 05:20:05
Kristina appears on the short list because someone actually submitted the thread she started, as I asked for in my original thread. Khira may well have organised things too but despite stating this, no supporting material was submitted. If anyone wants to send the links my way I would be happy to accept her as a write in candidate.
Edit - Looking at Khira's thread it is not particularly impressive as an act of organisation and it seems clear that Kristina's thread had a much greater effect. I'm also somewhat concerned about post 6 in Khira's thread which seems to advocate breaking the EULA. But, as I said, if people want to write her in as a candidate then they can do so.
Well, Khira actually posted in YOUR thread with her idea. As for supporting materinal, consider MY post supporting material as proof that she was the ORIGINATOR of this idea. Also, consider MY post as a write in for her to be included. She was the one that was IN GAME in the Help channel, EVE Radio AND flying through each zone announcing to everyone in General Chat go to Jita the day of the event.
Being we have TWO candidates with the same idea, it is a matter of establishing WHO was the FIRST to do it. I think that has been done.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.07.19 06:47:00 -
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Edited by: RAW23 on 19/07/2011 06:47:25
Originally by: Maeve Kelly
Well, Khira actually posted in YOUR thread with her idea. As for supporting materinal, consider MY post supporting material as proof that she was the ORIGINATOR of this idea. Also, consider MY post as a write in for her to be included. She was the one that was IN GAME in the Help channel, EVE Radio AND flying through each zone announcing to everyone in General Chat go to Jita the day of the event.
Being we have TWO candidates with the same idea, it is a matter of establishing WHO was the FIRST to do it. I think that has been done.
Not really. The idea itself is immaterial. Lots of people posted ideas but the prize is for organising/doing, not brainstorming.
I will not be removing Kristina from the shortlist as her place there is warranted. As for Khira, although all I've seen of her organising so far is a rather uninspiring thread I'm happy to accept your testimony that she was involved in ingame channels and, as I have said, you can vote for her as a write-in. If you could post a link to the eve-radio appearance that would also be appreciated.
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Khira Kitamatsu
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Posted - 2011.07.19 06:53:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 Edited by: RAW23 on 19/07/2011 05:20:05
Originally by: Maeve Kelly
Originally by: FC Tyler Durden
Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu I just love the fact that you continue to neglect that the Jita Fly In Protest was actually my ideal and started on your very thread and give the credit to someone else. Kristina V came along 2 days later and started another thread based off my ideal and she gets credit for it. How does that happen?
It may have been your idea, but the contest post specifies "the most creative acts of legitimate protest". If your idea of an act of legitimate protest is one post in one thread, you're mental.
I don't see how you can give credit to Kristina Vanszar for coming to this forum and posting another thread about something someone was already doing. If you look, Khira Kitamatsu posted the date and time the fly-in was supposed to occur in her thread. She was also IN GAME prior to that time advertising trying to rally players to Jita.
All Kristina Vanszar did was see what was going on in game, and 7 minutes before the scheduled time (established by Khira Kitamatsu in her protest thread posted two days prior), come to this forum to just post ANOTHER thread about something another player was ALREADY doing in-game.
Kristina Vanszar's "invite" thread to the Jita Fly-In was an invitation to an event someone else had already started. Question is, are you giving HER credit accidentally because you were not aware of who REALLY started it, or is Kristina Vanszar claiming to have started the Jita Fly-In protest? Either way, it has already been shown that Khira Kitamatsu had the idea first and I know was in game "rallying the troops" prior to and during the event.
Kristina appears on the short list because someone actually submitted the thread she started, as I asked for in my original thread. Khira may well have organised things too but despite stating this, no supporting material was submitted. If anyone wants to send the links my way I would be happy to accept her as a write in candidate.
Edit - Looking at Khira's thread it is not particularly impressive as an act of organisation and it seems clear that Kristina's thread had a much greater effect. I'm also somewhat concerned about post 6 in Khira's thread which seems to advocate breaking the EULA. But, as I said, if people want to write her in as a candidate then they can do so.
I broke no EULA with my suggestion - and if I broke it then so did anyone promoting the Jita protest. So if you are going to try to use that to disqualify me, then you have to disqualify Kristina as well.
Also, what more proof do you need I not only posted in your thread when you announced the contest, but I also had my own thread that same day, and on numerous occasions posted in other threads of people that suggested what I suggested doing to make it clear that I had all ready got the ball rolling on the Jita protest. Go back to your original post and you'll see where I did this very thing.
For you to continue to deny what I did, shows you really had no intention of following through with your contest in a legitimate manner, and it was all BS.
My very first post and continued to post regarding it, should be proof enough that I was in fact the one that started the Jita protest and for you to continue to deny it means you do not care to do what is right and fair.
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Maeve Kelly
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Posted - 2011.07.19 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: RAW23 Edited by: RAW23 on 19/07/2011 06:47:25 Not really. The idea itself is immaterial. Lots of people posted ideas but the prize is for organising/doing, not brainstorming.
I will not be removing Kristina from the shortlist as her place there is warranted. As for Khira, although all I've seen of her organising so far is a rather uninspiring thread I'm happy to accept your testimony that she was involved in ingame channels and, as I have said, you can vote for her as a write-in. If you could post a link to the eve-radio appearance that would also be appreciated.
Kristina did nothing more than to post a thread REPEATING what Khira was already doing IN GAME. How much evidence do you need? Kristina even posted HER "invite" thread minutes before the scheduled time that Khira had already posted 2 days before.
I do not know Kristina, and don't know personally if she is trying to steal this idea or just tried to help out with her "invite" post with what was going on in-game. But the fact is, Khira was doing the work IN-GAME, not just on this one board.
This is sounding more and more like you are making excuses to not recognize that Khira was the one that was really behind the Jita Fly-In.
As for posting a link to the EVE-Radio appearance, it was posts in the EVE-Radio chat channel telling everyone to go to Jita. I don't think she took screenshots to show that she was doing this. She took it on good faith that her post in YOUR thread as well as her own thread would be proof enough that she was the one organizing this.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.07.19 07:03:00 -
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Originally by: Khira Kitamatsu I broke no EULA with my suggestion - and if I broke it then so did anyone promoting the Jita protest. So if you are going to try to use that to disqualify me, then you have to disqualify Kristina as well.
Also, what more proof do you need I not only posted in your thread when you announced the contest, but I also had my own thread that same day, and on numerous occasions posted in other threads of people that suggested what I suggested doing to make it clear that I had all ready got the ball rolling on the Jita protest. Go back to your original post and you'll see where I did this very thing.
For you to continue to deny what I did, shows you really had no intention of following through with your contest in a legitimate manner, and it was all BS.
My very first post and continued to post regarding it, should be proof enough that I was in fact the one that started the Jita protest and for you to continue to deny it means you do not care to do what is right and fair.
There is not really anything more to discuss here. I have accepted your nomination and have said people can vote for you. The shortlist represents my personal views and I'm not taking someone off it because you posted the idea first. I've said a number of time that that point doesn't really interest me. I suggest you focus on drumming up supporters to vote for you rather than spamming this thread with your outrage.
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Ciar Meara
Amarr Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.07.19 08:25:00 -
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Edited by: Ciar Meara on 19/07/2011 08:25:10 Kristina Vanszar for the 'Jita Monument Protest' Tobiaz for the 'Unsub Tally Thread'Wyke Mossari and Liberty Eternal for 'The Great Luminaire Titan Scam'Maziy and Dimitri Fukoyama for the 'John Turbefield Thread'
I vote for all of them, the tally, the john, the jita and even the titan the parts made the whole. Each action alone would not have mattered that much without supporting actions of others. - Hilmar getur ekki tala= vi= ¦ig n·na, hann er a= fara ß japanska Tfskuverslun.
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Teala Te'Jir
Amarr Mr. Benjamin Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.07.19 08:43:00 -
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I vote for Khira Kitamatsu.
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Salpun
Gallente Paramount Commerce
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Posted - 2011.07.19 08:44:00 -
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Khira Kitamatsu
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Alexandra Alt
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Posted - 2011.07.19 09:16:00 -
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Khira Kitamatsu
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FC Tyler Durden
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Posted - 2011.07.19 09:36:00 -
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Khira Kitamatsu alts detected.
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Unshra
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.19 14:15:00 -
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Originally by: FC Tyler Durden Khira Kitamatsu alts detected.
More like Teala helping a friend by doing what RAW23 suggested "drumming up supporters" via twitter and other forums. http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/321601/An-Injustice-In-EVE.html
With that said: Khira Kitamatsu
and thank you Teala for bringing this to my attention.
Because flying a Minmatar ship is like going down a flight of stairs on an office chair while firing an Uzi. |

RAW23
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Posted - 2011.07.19 14:48:00 -
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Originally by: Unshra
http://www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/321601/An-Injustice-In-EVE.html[/url]
Wow! Way to make me regret being generous in allowing a completely unsupported entry in at this late stage.
I do resent the rather bizarre claim that I'm out to cheat Khira out of her legitimate winnings. The situation is that Khira appears to have misunderstood my criteria and she's annoyed that I'm not bending over backwards to say how wonderful her protest was. The reason for this is because I have seen little evidence of her efforts; they may indeed have been Herculean but at the moment all I have is one person's testimony and a rather uninspiring thread. Certainly nothing has been said that warrants replacing anyone on the shortlist since 'having an idea first' is not one of the criteria AT ALL. But whoever gets the most votes wins, it's that simple, so I really don't understand the purpose of maligning my character like this by suggesting I would try to stop Khira winning.
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LeeBaak
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Posted - 2011.07.19 15:13:00 -
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I vote for Kristina Vanszar, because they do not appear to be a whiney *****.
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Important Person
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Posted - 2011.07.19 15:15:00 -
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This thread provides.
Please continue.
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xxxTRUSTxxx
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Posted - 2011.07.19 16:21:00 -
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1st - CCP soundwave for kicking the whole event off.
2nd - CCP CEO Hilmar Veigar Petursson for putting the tin hat on it.    
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Solderan
Gallente Intergalactic Combined Technologies
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Posted - 2011.07.19 17:08:00 -
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Tobiaz for the unsub thread. In the end unsubbing will say far more to any developer then anything else can.
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Bonnie BoneBreaker
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Posted - 2011.07.19 21:00:00 -
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I vote for Khira Kitamatsu
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Potato IQ
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Posted - 2011.07.20 09:21:00 -
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None of the above. They are either impotent reactions quickly forgotten, empty threats or æwhat ifsÆ
Want to spell out how disappointed you all are with CQ and the NEX store? Turn it off and donÆt use it
A few threads have indicated that there are many that donÆt read the forums, which I find so hard to believe given the plethora of diseased and/or deluded minds that frequent them *cough*, so get the message to them if they donÆt know about turning it off. Make sure all your corp/alliance members are aware of the function. If your in a NPC, make sure you relay the instruction on how to do it regularly. If your not in a NPC, cycle one of your three slots to hit all the NPC corps with a æspread the wordÆ alt.
This indicates what the subscribers think of the poor content/poor performance issues/content removal/MT/whatever else you feel hard done by with Incarna. A simple button click for like/not like and is measurable. Less hot air and speculation. Take action and stop regurgitating the same tripe
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.07.20 20:05:00 -
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Daily bump.
Khira currently has a clear lead!
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Adonis Peverell
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Posted - 2011.07.20 20:31:00 -
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#3
It was really entertaining to see everyone get so into it. Hell, I even spammed a couple of locals to drum up support :)
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Iesahk
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Posted - 2011.07.20 21:10:00 -
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I can think of a few contract killers that would love this list. Keep the names coming.
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Wyke Mossari
Gallente
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Posted - 2011.07.21 07:54:00 -
[46]
Originally by: RAW23
3) Wyke Mossari and Liberty Eternal for 'The Great Luminaire Titan Scam' One of my favourites. Wyke and Liberty led an attempt to get protesters to blow up the Luminaire Titan. What the 400 or so who followed them didn't know is that they were not sympathetic to the protesters and the aim was to damage the Jita protest by moving large numbers of players elsewhere. A short-lived effort but with lots of EvE spirit.
So I guess it is time to show some contrition by making a confession. 
Whilst Raw is broadly correct in his implication; I would honestly describe my position as sceptical regarding the extent of outrage rather than actually being hostile to the protest. I cannot speak for Liberty and believe it or not we never actually conspired about this in private.
Yes, I did have an ulterior motive, but it is incorrect to say my intention was to damage the Jita Protest. My motive was very much IC; I thought why should the Jita Traders see all the profits from Ammo sales. Yes my motive was entirely about profit, some might argue just like CCP. 
My choice of the Luminare Titan was actually to test a Hypothesis regarding the Storyline and that was my flash of inspiration and I was actually quite surprised it actually took off like it did, the thread seemed to catch the Zeitgeist, the spirit of the moment.
Talking of spirit, I find the alt voting a little ironic. If I was I to exercise mine alone, Liberty and myself would be winning atm, but you have my word I won't, instead I will concede to the mob rule. :) However Raw, if you are prepare accept self votes, you can count this as one for Liberty and I.
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malaire
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Posted - 2011.07.21 11:53:00 -
[47]
I vote for canceling the competition and that you keep the ISK.
Original idea of panel-voting was good. New idea of mob-voting is bad. This just gives price to person with most alts/friends/etc. So since you weren't able to implement the competition as originally planned, I vote for canceling the competition.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.07.21 11:55:00 -
[48]
Originally by: Wyke Mossari
Originally by: RAW23
3) Wyke Mossari and Liberty Eternal for 'The Great Luminaire Titan Scam' One of my favourites. Wyke and Liberty led an attempt to get protesters to blow up the Luminaire Titan. What the 400 or so who followed them didn't know is that they were not sympathetic to the protesters and the aim was to damage the Jita protest by moving large numbers of players elsewhere. A short-lived effort but with lots of EvE spirit.
So I guess it is time to show some contrition by making a confession. 
Whilst Raw is broadly correct in his implication; I would honestly describe my position as sceptical regarding the extent of outrage rather than actually being hostile to the protest. I cannot speak for Liberty and believe it or not we never actually conspired about this in private.
Yes, I did have an ulterior motive, but it is incorrect to say my intention was to damage the Jita Protest. My motive was very much IC; I thought why should the Jita Traders see all the profits from Ammo sales. Yes my motive was entirely about profit, some might argue just like CCP. 
My choice of the Luminare Titan was actually to test a Hypothesis regarding the Storyline and that was my flash of inspiration and I was actually quite surprised it actually took off like it did, the thread seemed to catch the Zeitgeist, the spirit of the moment.
Talking of spirit, I find the alt voting a little ironic. If I was I to exercise mine alone, Liberty and myself would be winning atm, but you have my word I won't, instead I will concede to the mob rule. :) However Raw, if you are prepare accept self votes, you can count this as one for Liberty and I.
Nice to know some more of the background. Thanks.
Yes you can vote for yourself and alt voting is really not a problem.
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RAW23
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Posted - 2011.07.22 15:18:00 -
[49]
Bump - four days left to get your votes in.
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Victoria Arnolles
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Posted - 2011.07.24 23:15:00 -
[50]
1) Kristina Vanszar
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Brigid Keogh
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Posted - 2011.07.25 02:49:00 -
[51]
Khira Kitamatsu
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Ginseng Jita
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Posted - 2011.07.25 13:29:00 -
[52]
Casting my vote for Khira Kitamatsu. |

Samuel Reaper
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Posted - 2011.07.25 15:04:00 -
[53]
Kristina. |

Epikurus
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Posted - 2011.07.25 15:06:00 -
[54]
1) Kristina Vanszar |

RAW23
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Posted - 2011.07.25 15:09:00 -
[55]
My alts and I are going to vote for Kristina
1) Kristina
Just a few hours left to get your votes in.
Current vote leader is Khira with 9. Kristina is in second place with 5.
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Khira Kitamatsu
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Posted - 2011.07.25 19:27:00 -
[56]
I vote for Khira Kitamatsu.
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Khavi Kitamatsu
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Posted - 2011.07.25 19:31:00 -
[57]
I also vote Khira Kitamatsu.
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Tabbie Te'Jir
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Posted - 2011.07.25 19:32:00 -
[58]
I'll be casting my vote for Khira Kitamatsu as well. :)
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Victoria Wolfe
Caldari
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Posted - 2011.07.25 19:54:00 -
[59]
Definitely The Jita Protest by Kristina Vanszar.
- I was there. - It introduced me to EVE radio - It spread to other trade system - We made a lot of noise in the real world - It was pretty successful at slowing access to Jita ___
"Speak for yourself sir, I intend to live forever" - Commander William Riker |

Braeda Darro
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Posted - 2011.07.25 19:55:00 -
[60]
Khira Kitamatsu
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Qin Shi Huang
Gallente Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2011.07.25 20:21:00 -
[61]
All four nominees are truely worthy of the price in my humble opinion, but one stands out: Kristina for the Jita Protests. It was reported on all of the serious MMO sites and created more focus on the bull crap that CCP was trying to pull off than all other initiatives combined.
regards, Marcus
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Jimma Diemmacamus
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Posted - 2011.07.25 20:42:00 -
[62]
Edited by: Jimma Diemmacamus on 25/07/2011 20:42:18 Kristina Vanszar is the true hero(ine) here. She is who we should reward!
My vote to Kristina Vanszar.
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JitPC
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Posted - 2011.07.25 20:52:00 -
[63]
I vote for Kristina Vanszar, because I agree with those above me saying Kristina Vanszar is THE HERO OF THE DAY ! ! ! !
Here are some Chumbawamba lyrics:
He drinks a whiskey drinks He drinks a vodka drinks He drinks a lager drink He drinks a cider drinks He sings the songs that remind him of the good times He sings the songs that remind him of the better times
'Don't cry for me Next door neighbour...'
I get knocked down But I get up again You're never going to keep me down
We'll be singing When we're winning We'll be singing
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KaarBaak
Minmatar No Option Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2011.07.25 21:00:00 -
[64]
+1 Kristina Vanszar
Circumstances rule men; men do not rule circumstances. --Herodotus, Histories
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TyeBaak
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Posted - 2011.07.25 21:04:00 -
[65]
+1 Kristina Vanszar
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JeanClaude GoshDarn
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Posted - 2011.07.25 21:17:00 -
[66]
Another vote for Kristina Vanszar by me.
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Alejan Gerakh
Minmatar Clan Hyena
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Posted - 2011.07.25 21:42:00 -
[67]
Khira Kitamatsu ---- "Sounds like a bad case of pikal envy, if you ask me."
"The CCP dev who posted those "no microtx plan" posts back then was not aware of any such plans, because they were new." |

Werner Frankenhauser
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Posted - 2011.07.25 21:43:00 -
[68]
Edited by: Werner Frankenhauser on 25/07/2011 21:43:25 If Kristina Vanszar doesn't win this, then there has been an injustice in Eve. My vote to Kristina Vanszar.
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Braeda Darro
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Posted - 2011.07.25 22:12:00 -
[69]
The true in justice would be if Kristina DOES win it as all she did was capitalize on the work that Khira Kitamatsu did in game and Khira Kitamatsu wasn't even listed on the shortlist. People readint he thread aren't even seeing she is a candidate unless they read the whole thread.
As well, Kristina has quit the game so she is not even playing.
If you support that the Jita Fly-In was the most effective protest, you should cast a write in vote for Khira Kitamatsu.
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Lauren Hellfury
Full Pocket Aggro
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Posted - 2011.07.25 22:44:00 -
[70]
+1 Kristina Vanszar
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Lady Entropy
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Posted - 2011.07.25 22:44:00 -
[71]
+1 Kristina Vanszar
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Aishei
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Posted - 2011.07.25 22:45:00 -
[72]
+1 Kristina Vanszar
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Sosumi U'hoar
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Posted - 2011.07.25 22:46:00 -
[73]
+1 Kristina Vanszar
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Addison Sloan
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Posted - 2011.07.25 22:47:00 -
[74]
+1 Kristina Vanszar
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Dethmourne Silvermane
Gallente SRS Industries SRS.
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Posted - 2011.07.25 22:47:00 -
[75]
+1 for Kristina Vanszar.
My third-party service My loan service My Character Purchase Program |

Sytoru Hiroshyma
Live and let burn
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Posted - 2011.07.25 22:48:00 -
[76]
+1 Kristina Vanszar
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Crash Zombie
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Posted - 2011.07.25 22:48:00 -
[77]
+1 Kristina Vanszar
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YetAnotherCynoPilot
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Posted - 2011.07.25 22:49:00 -
[78]
+1 for Kristina Vanszar.
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Veka Alatz
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Posted - 2011.07.25 22:49:00 -
[79]
+1 Kristina Vanszar
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sosumi u'hole
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.25 22:50:00 -
[80]
+1 Kristina Vanszar
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Nonni Rayl
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Posted - 2011.07.25 22:58:00 -
[81]
+1 Kristina Vanszar
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Wendy Tzestu
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Posted - 2011.07.25 22:58:00 -
[82]
+1 Kristina Vanszar
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Marillan Gamelphin
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Posted - 2011.07.25 22:59:00 -
[83]
+1 Kristina Vanszar
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Bethene Bathana
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Posted - 2011.07.25 23:03:00 -
[84]
+1 Kristina Vanszar
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TyROiiD Random
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Posted - 2011.07.25 23:04:00 -
[85]
+1 for Kristina Vanszar.
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Venhilder
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Posted - 2011.07.25 23:06:00 -
[86]
+1 for Kristina Vanszar.
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Cassandra Peterson
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Posted - 2011.07.25 23:21:00 -
[87]
+1 for Kristina Vanszar!
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Bethene Bathana
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Posted - 2011.07.25 23:37:00 -
[88]
Current totals, by my count:
Kristina Vanszar - 32 Khira Kitamatsu - 14 All others combined - 4
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Deathwing Carebearmain
Caldari Silvermane Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.07.25 23:58:00 -
[89]
+1 for Kristina Vanszar.  Bearin' since day 1, saaan. Hellz yeah I'm gonna :smug: about it. |

SpiderWick
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Posted - 2011.07.26 00:05:00 -
[90]
+1 for Kristina Vanszar.
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z0de
The Bastards The Bastards.
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Posted - 2011.07.26 00:09:00 -
[91]
So you're giving people who supposedly quit eve isk?
I vote for me because I still play. |

RAW23
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Posted - 2011.07.26 11:24:00 -
[92]
A big last minute push put Kristina in first place with 32 votes, winning the 7.5bil prize, to Khira's 14, taking the 2.5bil. Congratulations to both.
I'll contact Grendell later in the day and ask him to disburse the isk.
Khira - would you like me to send half your winnings to Eve-Uni? |

Eolithic WithaTwist
Caldari Science and Trade Institute
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Posted - 2011.07.26 11:37:00 -
[93]
Number 1. Because I was there, I'm telling you, I was there. |
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CCP Zymurgist
Gallente C C P

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Posted - 2011.07.26 15:37:00 -
[94]
Moved from General Discussion. |
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Khira Kitamatsu
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Posted - 2011.07.26 16:47:00 -
[95]
Originally by: RAW23 Khira - would you like me to send half your winnings to Eve-Uni?
No - I'll make sure they get it. Thanks for the contest. It was fun! Congrats to all that participated. |

Grendell
Technologies Unlimited
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Posted - 2011.07.27 17:43:00 -
[96]
Congrats to the winners, isk has been sent to both of you.
Grendell ♥
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