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Kumq uat Gallente Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:05:00 - [1] I understand you want to have fun and RP and all of that and I really have no problem with that. Hell, several of our top people like Tyrrax and Istvaan like to RP as well. The thing is you need to RP correctly and the crap I was seeing in local while fighting Astur was cringe worthy and really made me want to turn my guns on the offending parties. Anyways, I have put together a little list for you that will keep you from becoming the next 30 year old virgin LARPing around yelling LIGHTNING BOLT! DO NOT BE THIS GUY! 1. You are what you are. Play within your character. Unless you are piloting a carrier or a super carrier you do not in fact have drop ships that can launch from your ship. You don't even have a launch bay. Try just thinking a little before you say something and ponder over if this is realistic within game. Same goes for OMG I HAS A SEKRIT WEAPON! No you don't. You have lasers. They go pew pew. I understand you may have issues being inferior IRL and you want to be king kong ding dong in Eve but the fact is you are a scrub among a bunch of scrubs in ships shooting lasers. You do not have a secret weapon. It just makes you look like a ****. 2. Give yourself a crucial moment to reread what you are about to type in chat, say it out loud if it helps, and ponder on this important question. Will this sound lame and stupid to people who cannot hear what is going on inside of my head? Think of it like putting on a condom to ensure safety before diving in. If you have never had sex before I am sure someone can inform you of the experience. 3. Don't ** up local over and over with the same insults typed in a slightly different manner. I am sure you are doing this so as to get a response from whatever Dev is doing the invasion at the time but really you do not need to type in the same insults every ten seconds. It really is annoying and it takes away from what good stuff might be out there. You come off as a little boy crying for attention. Also try having some respect for your enemies. I doubt you would be talking so tough if Capsuleers could join in the fight for Sansha in high sec incursions. 4. Waffles 5. What this all boils down to is using your brain. It may be difficult to think but I assure you the awards are worth it. Remember you are not a solo hero and not everyone can be the dear leader. One day you will get your time in the sun, but sometimes you just have to be cannon fodder. Such is life. Deal with it. 6. ?????? 7. Profit. I hope this guide helps you. Feel free to give me isk for taking time out of my busy day to write it for you. You're welcome! --------------------------------------- www.eve-pirate.com original author
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:12:00 - [2] Quote: RP correctly GTFO. Sit in timeout until you learn to share the sandbox. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Wyke Mossari Gallente	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:14:00 - [3] After reading the title I thought I was going to hate this post but it is spot on. It all boils down to one thing, don't Twink. If you want to famous for remarkable deeds then don't tell the world you are remarkable, that just doesn't cut it, be remarkable.
J Kunjeh Gallente	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:17:00 - [4] Great post, great points. ~Gnosis~
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:20:00 - [5] Originally by: J Kunjeh Great post, great points. Thank you. I tried to keep it concise and politically correct. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Sewer Urchin	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:21:00 - [6] Originally by: Cipher Jones Originally by: J Kunjeh Great post, great points. Thank you. I tried to keep it concise and politically correct. ha
Montevius Williams Gallente	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:24:00 - [7] Originally by: Kumq uat I understand you want to have fun and RP and all of that and I really have no problem with that. Hell, several of our top people like Tyrrax and Istvaan like to RP as well. The thing is you need to RP correctly and the crap I was seeing in local while fighting Astur was cringe worthy and really made me want to turn my guns on the offending parties. Anyways, I have put together a little list for you that will keep you from becoming the next 30 year old virgin LARPing around yelling LIGHTNING BOLT! DO NOT BE THIS GUY! 1. You are what you are. Play within your character. Unless you are piloting a carrier or a super carrier you do not in fact have drop ships that can launch from your ship. You don't even have a launch bay. Try just thinking a little before you say something and ponder over if this is realistic within game. Same goes for OMG I HAS A SEKRIT WEAPON! No you don't. You have lasers. They go pew pew. I understand you may have issues being inferior IRL and you want to be king kong ding dong in Eve but the fact is you are a scrub among a bunch of scrubs in ships shooting lasers. You do not have a secret weapon. It just makes you look like a ****. 2. Give yourself a crucial moment to reread what you are about to type in chat, say it out loud if it helps, and ponder on this important question. Will this sound lame and stupid to people who cannot hear what is going on inside of my head? Think of it like putting on a condom to ensure safety before diving in. If you have never had sex before I am sure someone can inform you of the experience. 3. Don't ** up local over and over with the same insults typed in a slightly different manner. I am sure you are doing this so as to get a response from whatever Dev is doing the invasion at the time but really you do not need to type in the same insults every ten seconds. It really is annoying and it takes away from what good stuff might be out there. You come off as a little boy crying for attention. Also try having some respect for your enemies. I doubt you would be talking so tough if Capsuleers could join in the fight for Sansha in high sec incursions. 4. Waffles 5. What this all boils down to is using your brain. It may be difficult to think but I assure you the awards are worth it. Remember you are not a solo hero and not everyone can be the dear leader. One day you will get your time in the sun, but sometimes you just have to be cannon fodder. Such is life. Deal with it. 6. ?????? 7. Profit. I hope this guide helps you. Feel free to give me isk for taking time out of my busy day to write it for you. You're welcome! HAHA, you've never Roleplayed a day in your life. Everything you said is wrong...just wrong. Learn to D & D, then come back and try again. If I want to roleplay that my Megathron has "dropships" in it, damit it has dropships. Why? Because its my goddamn ship, thats why.
Ranger 1 Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:33:00 - [8] Originally by: Montevius Williams Originally by: Kumq uat I understand you want to have fun and RP and all of that and I really have no problem with that. Hell, several of our top people like Tyrrax and Istvaan like to RP as well. The thing is you need to RP correctly and the crap I was seeing in local while fighting Astur was cringe worthy and really made me want to turn my guns on the offending parties. Anyways, I have put together a little list for you that will keep you from becoming the next 30 year old virgin LARPing around yelling LIGHTNING BOLT! DO NOT BE THIS GUY! 1. You are what you are. Play within your character. Unless you are piloting a carrier or a super carrier you do not in fact have drop ships that can launch from your ship. You don't even have a launch bay. Try just thinking a little before you say something and ponder over if this is realistic within game. Same goes for OMG I HAS A SEKRIT WEAPON! No you don't. You have lasers. They go pew pew. I understand you may have issues being inferior IRL and you want to be king kong ding dong in Eve but the fact is you are a scrub among a bunch of scrubs in ships shooting lasers. You do not have a secret weapon. It just makes you look like a ****. 2. Give yourself a crucial moment to reread what you are about to type in chat, say it out loud if it helps, and ponder on this important question. Will this sound lame and stupid to people who cannot hear what is going on inside of my head? Think of it like putting on a condom to ensure safety before diving in. If you have never had sex before I am sure someone can inform you of the experience. 3. Don't ** up local over and over with the same insults typed in a slightly different manner. I am sure you are doing this so as to get a response from whatever Dev is doing the invasion at the time but really you do not need to type in the same insults every ten seconds. It really is annoying and it takes away from what good stuff might be out there. You come off as a little boy crying for attention. Also try having some respect for your enemies. I doubt you would be talking so tough if Capsuleers could join in the fight for Sansha in high sec incursions. 4. Waffles 5. What this all boils down to is using your brain. It may be difficult to think but I assure you the awards are worth it. Remember you are not a solo hero and not everyone can be the dear leader. One day you will get your time in the sun, but sometimes you just have to be cannon fodder. Such is life. Deal with it. 6. ?????? 7. Profit. I hope this guide helps you. Feel free to give me isk for taking time out of my busy day to write it for you. You're welcome! HAHA, you've never Roleplayed a day in your life. Everything you said is wrong...just wrong. Learn to D & D, then come back and try again. If I want to roleplay that my Megathron has "dropships" in it, damit it has dropships. Why? Because its my goddamn ship, thats why. Obviously you never were a DM for a game in your life. True RP works within the framework of what the game allows your character to do or not be able to do. There isn't a single well run RP based game out there that allows you to fire lightning bolt from your ass just because you SAY you can fire lightning bolts from your ass. What you are describing is a bunch of pre-adolecents doing freestyle RP (if you can even call it that) with each other late at night on their cell phones. It serves no other purpose than to break your fellow gamers immersion factor, and if EVE were a pen and paper RP based game you'd be asked to leave. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
Trax Rabbit	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:34:00 - [9] Art thou madeth?
Ranger 1 Amarr Paragon Fury Cascade Imminent	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:36:00 - [10] Originally by: Trax Rabbit Art thou madeth? Nay, I thinkuth he art just educating the kiddies... ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.

Roc Wieler Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:36:00 - [11] Originally by: Montevius Williams If I want to roleplay that my Megathron has "dropships" in it, damit it has dropships. Why? Because its my goddamn ship, thats why. I actually agree with the original poster, and am 100% in character ingame, much to the dismay of many. Roleplay is not making stuff up as you see fit. It's learning how to play a role within the scene correctly and believably. Your megathron is not different from anyone else's in any real sense. If you want to roleplay, for example, how your crew goes about firing your weapons, that's one thing, but saying it has dropships when the lore of EVE Online clearly says it doesn't, is another, and completely erroneous. Learn to play D&D you say? How many times have you pulled irrelevant and imaginary crap out of yer arse and had it wash over ok with your DM? Not once I'd wager. You have to play within the rule set of the game, just like EVE roleplay. Otherwise, you're not roleplaying, you're just being annoying. There is good and appropriate roleplay, and there is not. Choose the former.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:37:00 - [12] Quote: Obviously you never were a DM for a game in your life. Because all players need to DM. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Angel Sinulf	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:38:00 - [13] Originally by: Montevius Williams Lightning Bolt! Lightning Bolt! Fixed.
Montevius Williams Gallente	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:39:00 - [14] Originally by: Ranger 1 Originally by: Montevius Williams Originally by: Kumq uat I understand you want to have fun and RP and all of that and I really have no problem with that. Hell, several of our top people like Tyrrax and Istvaan like to RP as well. The thing is you need to RP correctly and the crap I was seeing in local while fighting Astur was cringe worthy and really made me want to turn my guns on the offending parties. Anyways, I have put together a little list for you that will keep you from becoming the next 30 year old virgin LARPing around yelling LIGHTNING BOLT! DO NOT BE THIS GUY! 1. You are what you are. Play within your character. Unless you are piloting a carrier or a super carrier you do not in fact have drop ships that can launch from your ship. You don't even have a launch bay. Try just thinking a little before you say something and ponder over if this is realistic within game. Same goes for OMG I HAS A SEKRIT WEAPON! No you don't. You have lasers. They go pew pew. I understand you may have issues being inferior IRL and you want to be king kong ding dong in Eve but the fact is you are a scrub among a bunch of scrubs in ships shooting lasers. You do not have a secret weapon. It just makes you look like a ****. 2. Give yourself a crucial moment to reread what you are about to type in chat, say it out loud if it helps, and ponder on this important question. Will this sound lame and stupid to people who cannot hear what is going on inside of my head? Think of it like putting on a condom to ensure safety before diving in. If you have never had sex before I am sure someone can inform you of the experience. 3. Don't ** up local over and over with the same insults typed in a slightly different manner. I am sure you are doing this so as to get a response from whatever Dev is doing the invasion at the time but really you do not need to type in the same insults every ten seconds. It really is annoying and it takes away from what good stuff might be out there. You come off as a little boy crying for attention. Also try having some respect for your enemies. I doubt you would be talking so tough if Capsuleers could join in the fight for Sansha in high sec incursions. 4. Waffles 5. What this all boils down to is using your brain. It may be difficult to think but I assure you the awards are worth it. Remember you are not a solo hero and not everyone can be the dear leader. One day you will get your time in the sun, but sometimes you just have to be cannon fodder. Such is life. Deal with it. 6. ?????? 7. Profit. I hope this guide helps you. Feel free to give me isk for taking time out of my busy day to write it for you. You're welcome! HAHA, you've never Roleplayed a day in your life. Everything you said is wrong...just wrong. Learn to D & D, then come back and try again. If I want to roleplay that my Megathron has "dropships" in it, damit it has dropships. Why? Because its my goddamn ship, thats why. Obviously you never were a DM for a game in your life. True RP works within the framework of what the game allows your character to do or not be able to do. There isn't a single well run RP based game out there that allows you to fire lightning bolt from your ass just because you SAY you can fire lightning bolts from your ass. What you are describing is a bunch of pre-adolecents doing freestyle RP (if you can even call it that) with each other late at night on their cell phones. It serves no other purpose than to break your fellow gamers immersion factor, and if EVE were a pen and paper RP based game you'd be asked to leave. But EVE isnt a pen and paper game, jack. This is why it is PERFECTLY fine to have "dropships" because they dont affect anything. Your're not godmoding by having some dropships coming from your ship. It's called imagination.
Albetta Gallente Construction Cabal Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:40:00 - [15] YES. I remember facepalming during the sansha live events as people where all like "HA! We have destroyed all your dropships with the groundtroops we deployed on the planet beforehand! You lose!" I mean what the ****? That is terrible, terrible role play. All you have to do is act in character and respond accordingly to events around you. The GMs decide which way the direction of the story goes, not you.
Kumq uat Gallente Guiding Hand Social Club Dystopia Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:45:00 - [16] Originally by: Montevius Williams Originally by: Kumq uat I understand you want to have fun and RP and all of that and I really have no problem with that. Hell, several of our top people like Tyrrax and Istvaan like to RP as well. The thing is you need to RP correctly and the crap I was seeing in local while fighting Astur was cringe worthy and really made me want to turn my guns on the offending parties. Anyways, I have put together a little list for you that will keep you from becoming the next 30 year old virgin LARPing around yelling LIGHTNING BOLT! DO NOT BE THIS GUY! 1. You are what you are. Play within your character. Unless you are piloting a carrier or a super carrier you do not in fact have drop ships that can launch from your ship. You don't even have a launch bay. Try just thinking a little before you say something and ponder over if this is realistic within game. Same goes for OMG I HAS A SEKRIT WEAPON! No you don't. You have lasers. They go pew pew. I understand you may have issues being inferior IRL and you want to be king kong ding dong in Eve but the fact is you are a scrub among a bunch of scrubs in ships shooting lasers. You do not have a secret weapon. It just makes you look like a ****. 2. Give yourself a crucial moment to reread what you are about to type in chat, say it out loud if it helps, and ponder on this important question. Will this sound lame and stupid to people who cannot hear what is going on inside of my head? Think of it like putting on a condom to ensure safety before diving in. If you have never had sex before I am sure someone can inform you of the experience. 3. Don't ** up local over and over with the same insults typed in a slightly different manner. I am sure you are doing this so as to get a response from whatever Dev is doing the invasion at the time but really you do not need to type in the same insults every ten seconds. It really is annoying and it takes away from what good stuff might be out there. You come off as a little boy crying for attention. Also try having some respect for your enemies. I doubt you would be talking so tough if Capsuleers could join in the fight for Sansha in high sec incursions. 4. Waffles 5. What this all boils down to is using your brain. It may be difficult to think but I assure you the awards are worth it. Remember you are not a solo hero and not everyone can be the dear leader. One day you will get your time in the sun, but sometimes you just have to be cannon fodder. Such is life. Deal with it. 6. ?????? 7. Profit. I hope this guide helps you. Feel free to give me isk for taking time out of my busy day to write it for you. You're welcome! HAHA, you've never Roleplayed a day in your life. Everything you said is wrong...just wrong. Learn to D & D, then come back and try again. If I want to roleplay that my Megathron has "dropships" in it, damit it has dropships. Why? Because its my goddamn ship, thats why. Shadowrun Cyberpunk Game my friend created With your girl friend. If I recall correctly it was hot student naughty teacher RP --------------------------------------- www.eve-pirate.com original author
Roc Wieler Masuat'aa Matari Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:45:00 - [17] Originally by: Montevius Williams But EVE isnt a pen and paper game, jack. This is why it is PERFECTLY fine to have "dropships" because they dont affect anything. Your're not godmoding by having some dropships coming from your ship. It's called imagination. Try imagining playing within the same framework as everyone else please. Seriously, I'm not trying to attack you in any way. I'm honestly trying to help you look less foolish to everyone but yourself.
Abrazzar	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:46:00 - [18] Originally by: Montevius Williams But EVE isnt a pen and paper game, jack. This is why it is PERFECTLY fine to have "dropships" because they dont affect anything. Your're not godmoding by having some dropships coming from your ship. It's called imagination. It's called pulling ** out of your ass pretending you're on a GM level of game influence, while you're just the lowest level of roleplayer around. If you want to write a story of your own and ignore everything else, write a story of your own and gtfo of the roleplaying, because you're not playing anymore, you're just rolling in your own ** and call it 'imagination'. --------
Ranger 1 Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2011.07.21 16:59:00 - [19] Quote: But EVE isnt a pen and paper game, jack. This is why it is PERFECTLY fine to have "dropships" because they dont affect anything. Your're not godmoding by having some dropships coming from your ship. It's called imagination. You will find that nerdy roleplayers are THE most rabid people you will ever run across when it comes to sticking to what is "Cannon" in their RP universe. You are correct, what you are doing is simply imagination. That is only one of the elements necessary to roleplaying with a group in a shared "universe". Without the framework and rules system of that gaming universe, blabbing out whatever comes into your head that sounds cool is nothing but irritating to others. Keep it up long enough, people will mute you. Continue beyond that point and eventually people will simply start suicide ganking you whenever you show up at an event. If you don't "get" that, you never understood what roleplaying was to begin with. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
Chopper Rollins Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.21 17:07:00 - [20] Now see, here is where Crime and Punishment jackoffs could take a protip. The element that loves to be annoying, that mental-midget demographic that gets a real kick out of being a nuisance? Soon they will learn nothing makes people more uncomfortable than bad hard core role playing. I swear, all the roleplaying i've seen, without exception, has been so affected, lugubrious and television-shallow that 'cringe' doesn't even begin to describe my skin trying to crawl off and hide under the refrigerator. Bear in mind, i'm not saying these people can't have their fun, why, i role play with a light touch myself and in my character's point of view, serious roleplayers are treated as confused weirdos, like the people you see riding a bus as if it's a magic carpet. Carry on.

Ghoest	Posted - 2011.07.21 17:10:00 - [21] Edited by: Ghoest on 21/07/2011 17:12:20 The OP is 100% spot on. If you want to make up stuff about your character thats cool, but we have a space ship game with with laser and missiles and all the gear has RP appropriate names, theres no need to make up extra crap and confuse everyone else. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Lady Spank Amarr Trillionaire High-Rollers Suicidal Bassoon Orkesta	Posted - 2011.07.21 17:18:00 - [22] If you are going to bother to role play, at least do it within the realms of the universe you are dealing with otherwise you might as well just post ascii *****es in local for all the immersion you are providing. ~~~
AkJon Ferguson JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance	Posted - 2011.07.21 17:26:00 - [23] If I want to ignore reality and pretend that my actions are awesome and that the boat I'm in doesn't suck, don't blame me, I learned how to roleplay from CCP. "cannon"? (ignorant and illiterate is no way to go through life, son) But seriously, if I were ever to go to one of these live events I might well roleplay as lamely as possible, both to annoy the serious RP'ers and to illustrate how lame these live events are. Want to buy a monocle?
Ranger 1 Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2011.07.21 17:32:00 - [24] Originally by: AkJon Ferguson If I want to ignore reality and pretend that my actions are awesome and that the boat I'm in doesn't suck, don't blame me, I learned how to roleplay from CCP. "cannon"? (ignorant and illiterate is no way to go through life, son) But seriously, if I were ever to go to one of these live events I might well roleplay as lamely as possible, both to annoy the serious RP'ers and to illustrate how lame these live events are. Hey, it's EVE. Knock yourself out. I doubt that you'll enjoy being mass ignored for very long, being the attention ***** that you so obviously are, but go for it. If you're lucky, someone might snort derisively in your general direction and make your week. I'd throw in a condescending comment about your age, as you are most certainly my Jr., but I'd rather make a point instead of simply troll like you. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
Chopper Rollins Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.21 17:33:00 - [25] Originally by: AkJon Ferguson But seriously, if I were ever to go to one of these live events I might well roleplay as lamely as possible, both to annoy the serious RP'ers and to illustrate how lame these live events are. I was at the first incursion in Teon and the most fun was caused by someone called Fail Cakes, ultra-laming it up. I spat my drink out my nose when he said that the CCP characters and Triad types were just like a relative dressing up as Santa Claus for us. He had a boxer's timing and a corrosive sense of humor. While too many other people thought minmatar meant klingon and that being deadly serious was in no way hilarious itself.
Ranger 1 Amarr Imperial Shipment	Posted - 2011.07.21 17:49:00 - [26] Originally by: Chopper Rollins Originally by: AkJon Ferguson But seriously, if I were ever to go to one of these live events I might well roleplay as lamely as possible, both to annoy the serious RP'ers and to illustrate how lame these live events are. I was at the first incursion in Teon and the most fun was caused by someone called Fail Cakes, ultra-laming it up. I spat my drink out my nose when he said that the CCP characters and Triad types were just like a relative dressing up as Santa Claus for us. He had a boxer's timing and a corrosive sense of humor. While too many other people thought minmatar meant klingon and that being deadly serious was in no way hilarious itself. There is a fine line between being witty, and being witless. As you pointed out a lot of that difference likely depends on your timing. ===== The world will not end in 2012, however there will be a serious nerf to Planetary Interaction.
Exordium8 Minmatar Not a Shell Corp	Posted - 2011.07.21 17:49:00 - [27] Good post. Also, now all I can imagine is Shadoo screaming Lightning Bolts! LIGHTNING BOLTS! on comms. --------------------------------- Pillage, then burn. Everything is air-droppable at least once. There is no 'overkill.' There is only 'open fire' and 'time to reload.
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.07.21 18:01:00 - [28] Originally by: Ghoest Edited by: Ghoest on 21/07/2011 17:12:20 The OP is 100% spot on. If you want to make up stuff about your character thats cool, but we have a space ship game with with laser and missiles and all the gear has RP appropriate names... "Cool" is 100% subjective. Quote: ...theres no need to make up extra crap and confuse everyone else. I remember when we had a lot of threads about weather or not ships had crews. There was a huge debate amongst the community. A lot of us said there was no crew, and a lot of people said there were. Fast forward to this last fanfest. The devs actually read those threads and decided to start implementing the 'extra made up crap' into the game. Would have never made it into the game if people didn't represent it first. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Ghoest	Posted - 2011.07.21 18:13:00 - [29] Originally by: Cipher Jones I remember when we had a lot of threads about weather or not ships had crews. There was a huge debate amongst the community. A lot of us said there was no crew, and a lot of people said there were. Fast forward to this last fanfest. The devs actually read those threads and decided to start implementing the 'extra made up crap' into the game. Would have never made it into the game if people didn't represent it first. Are you posting this stuff as a gag or a challenge to Tom G? Talking about your "crew" or laack there of wastes players time but makes RP sense and has no bearing on a battle. Talking about weapon systems you dont have - claiming things happened in the fight that obviously didnt, - mentioning tactical abilities that are impossible in game just makes you an ass and an attention w-ore Although after reading this thread if I saw you do it I would jut assume you were dumb and confused yourself. Wherever you went - Here you are.
Chevalleis The Legendary Conquest	Posted - 2011.07.21 18:14:00 - [30] @ OP: U hit the bullseye. Imagination is getting a ship, loading some slaves on it and saying that you bought them off a slave trader to save them. Imagination is posting threads on the IGS telling why Intaki should be freed and Sansha destroyed. Imagination is wardeccing some corp because they are supporting people u don't like. Imagination is NOT saying "I predicted this and planted some mines on the planet... Ur troops will go boom!" Granted, you can do this if it's for example a POS that you have rigged with the other player's OOC agreement, then the other player destructs it. However this is NOT the way to go in incursions.



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