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Important Person	Posted - 2011.07.23 22:26:00 - [1] Originally by: G 0 D I find it interesting that the server population has actually gone down since the Incarna expansion. Shouldn't the expansion and all these new marketing campaigns they have been doing (eve is real, advertising on every popular game website with bs news articles ect) be bringing more players to the game? CCP have lost touch with their player base and the last 3 expansions have added nothing of value to the sandbox, which is no surprise that each of those expansions have failed to bring CCP more subscriptions. Shouldn't you be playing Perpetuum?
Important Person	Posted - 2011.07.23 22:40:00 - [2] Originally by: Jonathan Ferguson Originally by: Meryl SinGarda Why are you even allowed to post? Because he hasn't called anybody at CCP 'terrible'? Maybe he could just post a link to some inappropriate content like some other butthurt loser.
Important Person	Posted - 2011.07.24 12:53:00 - [3] Originally by: Kamilia StarGazer as for the nex they have their reasons for it but it will end up only being used by rich lazy players that want show off their cash and that's what ccp was aiming for weather they say it or not. So what part of the VANITY items available in the NOBLE exchange led you to believe they'd be cheap? Anyway they're still pretty cheap, as far as mmo cosmetic items go. I can buy them all for zero real life dollars. Between PI and datacores I don't even have to play much to get them.
Important Person	Posted - 2011.07.24 13:27:00 - [4] Originally by: Pr1ncess Alia What's the saying? "One step forward, two steps back." A bird in the hand is worth two in the bush?
Important Person	Posted - 2011.07.24 14:06:00 - [5] Edited by: Important Person on 24/07/2011 14:07:43 Originally by: Booby Trap I have to disagree. They are far from cheap and the gaming press said the same thing. How will overpriced MT vanity items draw new players to Eve? The gaming press ran around crying OMG $70 MONOCLE LOL without mentioning that it could be bought for in-game currency and that many, many players have billions of isk to do just that. Internet journalism at its finest. Whoever said the MT items were designed for new players?
Important Person	Posted - 2011.07.24 14:40:00 - [6] Originally by: Booby Trap Yes, because the monocle does in fact cost $70. Really? Please show me where I can pay $70 for a monocle. Must be on eve's website. Nope. Quote: MT items are for people who want to spend rl cash on overpriced items. Really? I thought they were quite obviously aimed at people who want to spend billions of isk on items. You know being VANITY items available from the NOBLE exchange. I don't know too many poor nobles, how bout you? Quote: I made the observation that new players don't have that amount of isk at their disposal. Maybe we could give all new players a free monocle, battleship and a billion isk. That would surely enrich the new player experience. I'm sure there are lots of new players who log in for the first time on their trial account and say, gosh I can't afford to buy that MT item, this game isn't for me, I didn't sign up to play spaceships. Quote: Do you think Incarna and MT has anything to attract new players? I don't. I think that Incarna will certainly attract new players. I don't believe MT should have any bearing on attracting and retaining new players.
Important Person	Posted - 2011.07.24 14:44:00 - [7] Originally by: Booby Trap Edited by: Booby Trap on 24/07/2011 14:35:09 Originally by: Important Person How about a $2000 spectral tiger for WoW? What the trading card that sold on E Bay after previouly been given away free by blizzard? That's a poor comparison. http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/18/world-of-warcrafts-spectral-tiger-sells-for-2000/ http://www.wowtcgloot.com/ Look at how much real life money I can spend on cosmetic items in WoW. Shame I can't use gold to buy them. Nice marketing ploy though, we don't sell MT items in-game, only a selection of pets through the blizzard shop, but checkout our card game.
Important Person	Posted - 2011.07.24 18:05:00 - [8] Edited by: Important Person on 24/07/2011 18:05:21 Originally by: Booby Trap 1- It's called MT. You do know what the M stands for right? 2- You are correct, unless you have billions of Isk then the NEX items are not aimed at new players. If they are not aimed at new players then their target is people who want to spend rl cash for an overpriced itwm or older players. Thanks for agreeing with me AGAIN. 3- As the thread title is NO NEW PLAYERS then I think it is fair to comment that these items are beyond their reach. I never said new players should get BS or billions of Isk. 4- Yes, you are correct. An MT shop will not attract new players to the game. So why are you intent on bringing up MT all the time? 5- That's where we disagree. Incarna , as it stands, does nothing 1. I don't see how much more micro you can get than $0 for items. 2. Thanks for ammending that. Instead of your previous stance of "MT items are for people who want to spend rl cash on overpriced items." you've added that they're for older players. I have a friend who's been playing nearly two months and already has a couple of billion isk. He's looking forward to training for mauraders soon. Are these the older players you're referring to? 3. No you're merely implying that items priced out of reach of new players would affect their retention. FYI thread title is INCARNA - No new players for CCP. 4. I didn't, you did. "How will overpriced MT vanity items draw new players to Eve?" 5. Clever. Quote: I don't care about CCP, Eve or the MT shop because I'm not reactivating my account. The reason I'm not re activating is because Incarna, as an expansion, offers nothing new. ps are you yet another Zinfadel alt because you've only been in game a few weeks and you seem to be an expert on MT and Incarna How quaint, ccp alt comment.
Important Person	Posted - 2011.07.25 03:05:00 - [9] Originally by: Booby Trap 1- You are trolling right? A NEW PLAYER would have to buy plex with cash and convert them to isk. Not free. But according to you NEX items are for older players so therefore have zero bearing on a new players decision to subscribe. Despite this you still believe that NEX will bring new players to Eve. 2- Sorry for the confusion. I should have said MT items are for NEW PLAYERS who want to spend rl cash on overpriced virtual goods or older players with billions of Isk. Your 'friend' won't use his Isk to buy a Monocle before he buys a Palladin will he? So, no those are not the older players I'm talking about. 3- No, I'm saying that it won't help with their retention. First impressions count. 4- Again there seems to be some confusion. I asked how overpriced items will bring new players to Eve and you said 'it won't because it's not for them'. Which is pretty much agreeing with me. Also, my comment about you always bringing up MT is because you created an alt to defend the NEX and its pricing and have been making lots of pro MT posts. You created an alt to defend MT. 1. Actually I said I don't believe Nex will have any bearing on new players whatsoever. 2. He could if he really wanted to. In fact if the only thing interesting in the game to him was a monocle he would buy it. I think new players are focused on other things in their first months of gameplay, and you've agreed with me. 3. Basically what I said. However your initial question was "How will overpriced MT items bring new players to eve?". I'm saying that it wont and isn't intended to. 4. So whats the problem? You're complaining that nex items are too expensive for new players then saying that I'm agreeing with you by saying that they're not designed for new players? Quote: It's cool if you think that the pricing in the NEX store is ok and think that Incarna and MT will bring NEW PLAYERS to Eve but It's been nearly a month since it was deployed and all the facts prove you wrong. Show me on the graph where these new players are. You're daft. I never said MT would bring new players to eve. I said Incarna will bring new players to eve. You were the one insinuating that MT had some bearing on new players :"How will overpriced MT items bring new players to eve?". Show me on the graph where these new players aren't. All I see on graphs is some of the tens of thousands of people who said they've unsubbed and left being replaced by someone. I think I'm being trolled. Well done sir.
Important Person	Posted - 2011.07.25 12:07:00 - [10] Originally by: Booby Trap Originally by: Important Person MT MT MT MT There you go again, repeating yourself over and over and rambling on and on about how great MT and NEX is. It's crap, it has no bearing on NEW PLAYER retention and isn't for NEW PLAYERS. It won't have any bearing on NEW subscriptions and no returning player will subscribe because of it. We are both agreed. So, Mr ignorant alt with lots of ill informed opinions but no balls. Why don't you learn to read a graph and show me where are the new players that you claim the awesome Incarna has brought to Eve? Or supply your own graph to prove me wrong. You are 100 % wrong, Incarna has failed. For some reason you ignore facts that don't support your own deluded views and instead throw up ill conceived comparisons and hypothetical situations to explain why Incarna, MT and NEX are great and that Incarna was a sucess. You are impervious to logic or reasoning and know less than nothing. You are in the minority. You won't even post with your main because your are scared to voice your lunatic opinions. That says a lot about what sort of player you are and what sort of person you are in real life. You're an idiot. Quote: I recently received an e mail offer for 5 days free gametime. Excited to see the whole WiS/Incarna stuff I log in... 2 minutes later I check out the NEX store and find the hilariously overpriced items that nobody else can even see. I will never pay cash for this stuff so NEX is pretty much useless for me. Quote: That's another problem. New players don't have that sort of Isk and are therefore excluded. How will overpriced MT vanity items draw new players to Eve? Do the world a favor and go slip one of these on.

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