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Cipher Jones
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Posted - 2011.07.25 14:26:00 -
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I have to laugh my ass off at the people crying about mission runners injecting too mush ISK. CCP HAS nerfed the bounties to half. They nerfed the drops and the salvage also.
All that will be accomplished by lowering this "carebear" income is everybody else's ISK will be worth MORE. CCP does not want to entice botting or further the class divide. They don't want mass PLEX holders to have any more power than they already do.
Also, CCP knows who is who in game and we don't. I would imagine there are at least 30,000 weekend warriors out there who carebear during the week a couple hours a day to pay for weekend PvP ops. I am positive that CCP wishes to retain them as customers. Yes arbitrary numbers are arbitrary but that is <1/10th server pop so a reasonable estimate IMHO.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.25 14:51:00 -
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Quote: ŕwhich has no effect on the ISK influx.
You're smarter than that and I know you're not trolling. I will simply say that it has effected my ISK and leave it at that. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.25 15:35:00 -
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Originally by: Tippia Edited by: Tippia on 25/07/2011 14:55:57
Originally by: Jeronas Kane PVE mission running has never been a problem nor the cause for inflation!
ŕexcept for the significant influx of ISK it causes.
Quote: Like others have already pointed out time and time again. Ore prices and ship prices have gone down over the years! NOT up!
ŕand as been pointed out, this is changing. Again, read up on the data presented by those who actually monitor the health of the economy.
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Quote: ŕwhich has no effect on the ISK influx.
You're smarter than that and I know you're not trolling. I will simply say that it has effected my ISK and leave it at that.
Your ISK is irrelevant. We're talking about the effects of ISK faucets on the economy here, and loot and salvage has no effect on the influx of ISK.
I realize there is a difference between printing money and printing credit cards. Obviously the ISK I collect from bounties in missions counts directly.
Bounty is the # ISK faucet. The QEN does not specify how much comes from Mission runners and how much comes from other pve. Of the other pve, they especially do not specify how much comes from botting. And that's the real problem.
Originally by: Last QEN The main cause for the increase in money supply is that the bounty prizes increased by 8.1 trillion ISK in Q4 compared to Q3, or from 67.6 trillion to 75.7 trillion. In addition players have increasingly been selling items to NPCs such as insignias, overseer¦s personal effects and sleeper loot, as well as other commodities such as tobacco and garbage. In Q4 around 19 trillion ISK flowed into EVE from NPCs buying the aforementioned commodities. The agent mission rewards increased by 3.7%, up to 5.7 trillion, in Q4
. Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.25 15:53:00 -
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Quote: ŕnor does it specify how much of the MR influx comes from botting. Most likely because they don't have a good number on how many bots there are and what they're doing.
Yeah I would never expect them to know 100%, nor tell us what they do know. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.25 17:11:00 -
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Quote: You only have to grind more if you buy your ships and mods from highsec producers. No one is forcing you to get your equipment in Jita. You have the option of creating an alternate economy in nullsec. If anything I think this should be encouraged.
You don't have to go to your local mall, you can go to the Moon Mall.
Just as soon as they build the Moon Mall. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.26 19:47:00 -
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Edited by: Cipher Jones on 26/07/2011 19:47:27
Quote: People like PvP as it gives them a "false sense" of accomplishment and getting fake kills on a fake kill-recording account. This gives them a sense of "worth" and leverage in virtual world as well as e-peen. Also the "bean counting game" (that can be optimised with "killmails" seem to appeal to a special type of dbag.
Market PvP is a financially full contact sport where the sense of domination over others and actual visceral competitiveness as well as a challenging marketing (again spreadsheets) game itself.
fixed
. Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.28 17:09:00 -
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Edited by: Cipher Jones on 28/07/2011 17:10:59
Originally by: hellcane
Originally by: Tippia
Originally by: hellcane Tippia and others, where is missioning hurting you?
An overproduction of ISK hurts everyone.
Well, i tried. You continue to dodge the question of how missioners effect you in-game besides answering by "IT DOES! NERF MISSIONS." Even with evidence pointing out the opposite.
Have to conclude that you are a low/null sec that wants more solo pve fit ships to wander past your 10-man gatecamp.
Which is what I cant understand that people don't understand;
Yes there is inflation and yes it is caused by too much isk.
SO KILL OFF THE BOTS TO DECREASE THE ISK INJECTION. NERFING MISSION RUNNERS WHEN YOU COULD NERF BOTS IS BULL****.
That being said, I am fairly confident that this is CCP's intent to begin with. I am also fairly confident they have already reduced the number of bots significantly. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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