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Veldah
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2011.07.25 16:22:00 -
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What would you do. There's max of about 160 days training not including drone spec to 5, and about 196 days with specs to 5. That is after the respec to mem/perc.
What after the plan finishes. There's no other skillset that relies on this attribute combination right?
Then again, if respeccing, go for specs to 5 or not. 2% is so little but it might stack well with other skills, am I right?
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Cajmere
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Posted - 2011.07.25 17:35:00 -
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Speaking as someone who is currently specced for drone skills (mem/perc) I wouldn't reccommend it unless you are skilling up a secondary account on the side. I'm looking to use the Arbitrator line-up heavily for some light pvp so it essentially suits me. Knowing that you won't be using any guns or missiles helps simplify things, but spending ~19 days for a 2 percent increase in damage will make you cry in a corner.
Despite this I've recently begun training Min. Spec 5 as I won't forgive myself for not training it on this accursed re-map. I won't be bothering with Heavy and Sentry drones so my stay in attribute hell will be shorter than, say, a maxed out Ishtar pilot.
Think very carefully before you go down this route.
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Jamaican Herbsman
I Love You Mary Jane
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Posted - 2011.07.25 17:37:00 -
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I did just that with my main, but I used the extra remap given last christmas to that. You're right, there's no other category that requires mem/perc. I did however train some few corporation management skills which require mem/cha, since I never will remap for it, unless CCP gives us 5 free remaps, but I doubt it.
It depends on your other skills and the amount of sp you have too. If you feel like you have trained everything else important to you, then go ahead. Otherwise remap for something else. |
Malcanis
Caldari Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
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Posted - 2011.07.25 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Cajmere Speaking as someone who is currently specced for drone skills (mem/perc) I wouldn't reccommend it unless you are skilling up a secondary account on the side. I'm looking to use the Arbitrator line-up heavily for some light pvp so it essentially suits me. Knowing that you won't be using any guns or missiles helps simplify things, but spending ~19 days for a 2 percent increase in damage will make you cry in a corner.
Despite this I've recently begun training Min. Spec 5 as I won't forgive myself for not training it on this accursed re-map. I won't be bothering with Heavy and Sentry drones so my stay in attribute hell will be shorter than, say, a maxed out Ishtar pilot.
Think very carefully before you go down this route.
Good luck o7
Even if you skip T2 heavy, get T2 sentry. You will not regret it.
Malcanis' Law: Whenever a mechanics change is proposed on behalf of "new players", that change is always to the overwhelming advantage of richer, older players. |
Cajmere
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Posted - 2011.07.25 20:11:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis
Even if you skip T2 heavy, get T2 sentry. You will not regret it.
I wont fit many sentry drones in an Arbitrator, unfortunately
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Veldah
Minmatar Native Freshfood
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Posted - 2011.07.25 20:15:00 -
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Originally by: Malcanis Even if you skip T2 heavy, get T2 sentry. You will not regret it.
Not sure if this is the place to ask it but since we are on topic. Are sentries ever used in pvp?
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Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
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Posted - 2011.07.26 00:27:00 -
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Personally, I couldn't justify respeccing specifically for drones. But if I did I'd be damn sure to take at least Gallente and Minmatar specs to 5, strongly consider Caldari spec 5, and depending on how much I valued symmetry at the time even Amarr spec 5. If you're gonna do it you might as well do it right.
Oh, and yes. Sentries get at least some PvP use.
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z0de
The Bastards The Bastards.
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Posted - 2011.07.26 02:19:00 -
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Originally by: Veldah
Originally by: Malcanis Even if you skip T2 heavy, get T2 sentry. You will not regret it.
Not sure if this is the place to ask it but since we are on topic. Are sentries ever used in pvp?
yes.
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Baneken
Gallente The New Knighthood Apocalypse Now.
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Posted - 2011.07.26 06:52:00 -
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This character started as per/mem specced and I remapped entirely from cha/will to per/mem and I've foumd it to be a perfect combination for reading drone skills since it allows you to read something else as well while training drones skills in the mix with reasonable rate. reading heavy drone & sentry drone V was slow but worth it; OGRE II's are just awesome, especially in a domi & gal bs V.
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Bloody Wench
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Posted - 2011.07.26 08:51:00 -
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Would it not be wiser to go per/mem at least then your gunnery/missiles skills arent completely borked, while drones will still be reasonable. |
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Abdiel Kavash
Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans
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Posted - 2011.07.26 10:30:00 -
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I would say it's worth it if you have 2-3 remaps available and training for a drone-heavy ship, such as a carrier or a supercarrier. Since there's not enough skills to cover one whole year, obviously using a yearly remap is not a good idea. |
Logical Chaos
The Ankou Raiden.
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Posted - 2011.07.26 12:31:00 -
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Just put all skills you want to train in the next year into evemon and let it optimize your attributes. A drone only map is worthwhile if youre training from scratch to Fighter Bombers V and every other Droneskill. You might be able to almost cover a year with that.
Else, perception/mem is better since it allows you to train Spaceships/Gunnery/Missiles aswell :< |
Dragon Lord
Caldari Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2011.07.26 17:11:00 -
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Ive remapped for drones but i do have another remap spare, and i do plan on maxing drones (when i say maxing i mean lvl5 in everything inc fighter bombers) i dont plan on training drones ever again once im done in about 160 days lol. Anyway if you have other more important skills to train dont remap but ive gone past 100m sp now so im starting to look at maxing out skill areas. |
Tyrobi
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Posted - 2011.07.28 23:26:00 -
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I've thought about this to but I just can't pull the trigger. I can see remapping for Perc/Will, Int/Mem, even Mem/Int but not for Mem/Perc. I know I wouldnt be able to commit to that amount of days spent on Drones only.
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Mona X
Caldari Missions Mining and Mayhem Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2011.07.29 09:43:00 -
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Originally by: Veldah
What after the plan finishes. There's no other skillset that relies on this attribute combination right?
1. Fill plan in evemon with a year+ skills. 2. Press the optimize atributes button. 3. ??? 4. Profit!
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Kesshisan
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.07.31 18:53:00 -
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Originally by: Bloody Wench Would it not be wiser to go per/mem at least then your gunnery/missiles skills arent completely borked, while drones will still be reasonable.
No, that would not be wiser as the main attribute is far more important than the secondary attribute.
If you spec mem/NOT per, you will train mem/per faster than if you were to spec per/mem.
Currently I am specced mem/int and am getting up a lot of drone skills. Mem/int just also happens to be useful for many of the probing skills, too. Regardless, while specced mem/int, I train up mem/per faster than I train up int/mem skills.
After the OP is done with drone skills, perhaps he or she can invest in probing skills, or salvaging skills if he wishes to maximize his or her SP gain rate.
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Silthanus Ebonshade
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Posted - 2011.08.04 20:33:00 -
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Originally by: Logical Chaos Just put all skills you want to train in the next year into evemon and let it optimize your attributes. A drone only map is worthwhile if youre training from scratch to Fighter Bombers V and every other Droneskill. You might be able to almost cover a year with that.
Else, perception/mem is better since it allows you to train Spaceships/Gunnery/Missiles aswell :<
I did this also, had trained this toon for Orca/Rorqual and Freighter/Jump Freighter. But needed to flesh out a few Drone skills in the process. (Rorq gets a pretty substantial Drone bonus)
With +5 Perc/Mem implants I train Perc/Wil at 2590 Sp per hour and Mem/Perc at 2530 Sp per hour.
Only downside is anything T2 in the spaceship command tree only trains at 2280 Sp per hour.
I guess if you can live with that, I say go Perc/Mem.
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Rawbone
Gallente S3MINAL FLUID Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.08.06 04:46:00 -
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Im my opinion, perc/mem is the best remap for the return. you yield high in spacship command, gunnery, missiles. you do very well in drones and in skills requiring int/mem, you do well enough to get by.
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Slimy Worm
The Skunkworks
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Posted - 2011.08.08 02:27:00 -
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Originally by: Cajmere Speaking as someone who is currently specced for drone skills (mem/perc) I wouldn't reccommend it unless you are skilling up a secondary account on the side. I'm looking to use the Arbitrator line-up heavily for some light pvp so it essentially suits me. Knowing that you won't be using any guns or missiles helps simplify things, but spending ~19 days for a 2 percent increase in damage will make you cry in a corner.
Despite this I've recently begun training Min. Spec 5 as I won't forgive myself for not training it on this accursed re-map. I won't be bothering with Heavy and Sentry drones so my stay in attribute hell will be shorter than, say, a maxed out Ishtar pilot.
Think very carefully before you go down this route.
Good luck o7
Pretty much this. There aren't enough drone skills to remap just for it. If you want PvP it's better to remap for Perception and Willpower instead. ---------------
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Lord Shadowspawn
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Posted - 2011.08.10 08:13:00 -
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I haven't regretted it, but then again this is an alt... Just finished the Navigation skills as well... Eveboard
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Khanid Voltar
Night's Dawn Investment Fund
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Posted - 2011.08.12 11:14:00 -
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I too have been pondering this question for a while, and I have decided to go for a Mem/Intel remap.
Allows you to up Intel / Mem skills at a decent speed as well as Mem / Charisma.
With +5's you get:
Drones - 2580 sp per hour Corp Management skills - 2580 sp per hour Intel / Mem skils - 2520 sp per hour
All close enough to max speed to not worry about the difference.
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Cyniac
Gallente Twilight Star Rangers
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Posted - 2011.08.24 09:03:00 -
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Originally by: Khanid Voltar I too have been pondering this question for a while, and I have decided to go for a Mem/Intel remap.
Allows you to up Intel / Mem skills at a decent speed as well as Mem / Charisma.
With +5's you get:
Drones - 2580 sp per hour Corp Management skills - 2580 sp per hour Intel / Mem skils - 2520 sp per hour
All close enough to max speed to not worry about the difference.
That was my first remap as well - for somewhat different reasons (Industry and learning skills back in the day) but you are right, things go very close to max for support skills, drone skills, corp management and of course industry.
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Rx Bandito
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Posted - 2011.08.24 12:43:00 -
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To add to others comments about the pvpness of sentries i will just say their instantly applied dmg + lazors or projecs in decent battleship fleets can volley the hardiest of tanks. Imagine 50 geddons (250 sentries) using focus fire, lol.
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Dorian Wylde
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Posted - 2011.08.24 22:06:00 -
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Originally by: Logical Chaos Just put all skills you want to train in the next year into evemon and let it optimize your attributes. A drone only map is worthwhile if youre training from scratch to Fighter Bombers V and every other Droneskill. You might be able to almost cover a year with that.
Else, perception/mem is better since it allows you to train Spaceships/Gunnery/Missiles aswell :<
EVEMon optimizer is the way to go. Even going fighter bombers 5 I doubt would take up the whole year. The only way this would be worth it is if you have a 2nd banked rempap already.
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