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Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
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Posted - 2012.09.22 22:03:00 -
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Hey guys, I was reading an article mentioning the "Gruber Gambit which military tacticians advise against as it can result in the Willis Maneuver from the enemy".
Source: page 2 of article
Can someone shed light on this as friend Google failed me on this one. The reason I'm posting this here is because it seems that holding someone tackled when ransoming in EVE might result in this "Maneuver" from his corpmates. I just wonder what exactly this tactic is.
Feedback is welcome! |
Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
2279
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Posted - 2012.09.22 22:10:00 -
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Watchoo talkin' about, Thor?
"A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |
Boci
Rifterlings
Damu'Khonde
2
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Posted - 2012.09.22 22:14:00 -
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Hans Gruber is a badguy in the movie Die Hard, which stars Bruce Willis; the picture int he article is a shot from that movie, when hans gruber is holding willis's character's wife/exwife/whatever hostage. willis's character had a pistol strapped to his back, which he grabs and shoots hans, thus saving the lady. |
Slej Hammer
Builders Labourers Federation
Combined Trades Alliance
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Posted - 2012.09.22 22:19:00 -
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"military tacticians advise against as it can result in the Willis Maneuver from the enemy".
Why advice against? Willis shot the bad guy and saved the damsell. That's a GOOD thing yeah?
Plus it looked cool on TV. WE knew it was gonna happen, it did and the crowd went wild.
(and I'd get a buzz watching the ransomer become the dear departed - I just love turn-the-tide sequences) |
Destru Kaneda
CTRL-Q
Iron Oxide.
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Posted - 2012.09.22 22:24:00 -
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Except in EVE there is no lady.
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Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
218
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Posted - 2012.09.22 22:27:00 -
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Boci wrote:Hans Gruber is a badguy in the movie Die Hard, which stars Bruce Willis; the picture int he article is a shot from that movie, when hans gruber is holding willis's character's wife/exwife/whatever hostage. willis's character had a pistol strapped to his back, which he grabs and shoots hans, thus saving the lady.
I guess that makes sense.
So in other words, when the target says "yo hey, my mates are gathering the ransom, please give me 1 more minute..." we should just shoot him then?
Slej Hammer wrote:"military tacticians advise against as it can result in the Willis Maneuver from the enemy".
Why advice against? Willis shot the bad guy and saved the damsell. That's a GOOD thing yeah?
Plus it looked cool on TV. WE knew it was gonna happen, it did and the crowd went wild.
(and I'd get a buzz watching the ransomer become the dear departed - I just love turn-the-tide sequences)
It's the other way around bro :P |
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
2779
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Posted - 2012.09.22 22:29:00 -
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People contemplate honoring ransoms in EVE? 
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Petrus Blackshell
Rifterlings
Damu'Khonde
1558
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Posted - 2012.09.22 22:29:00 -
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Destru Kaneda wrote:Except in EVE there is no lady.
I see what you did there.
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Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
218
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Posted - 2012.09.22 22:34:00 -
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James 315 wrote:People contemplate honoring ransoms in EVE?
a) I like my fits with faction mods.
b) Most people don't fit faction mods.
When issuing ransoms, I consider point a) and disregard point b).  |
Rroff
The Xenodus Initiative.
Ministry of Inappropriate Footwork
47
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Posted - 2012.09.22 22:56:00 -
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James 315 wrote:People contemplate honoring ransoms in EVE?
Not honoring ransoms is bad for business. |
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Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
3645
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Posted - 2012.09.22 23:13:00 -
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"If you would like to save your ship please deposit 10mil isk into my wallet, you have five seconds to comply."
"Wait what can..... (boom)"
It's really as simple as that.
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Tanthos
ROC Academy
The ROC
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Posted - 2012.09.22 23:20:00 -
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OP never seen Die Hard?
Permaban him. |
Thor Kerrigan
Guardians of Asceticism
218
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Posted - 2012.09.22 23:22:00 -
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Tanthos wrote:OP never seen Die Hard?
Permaban him.
I've seen it, I just did not click when I saw the pic. |
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
2779
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Posted - 2012.09.22 23:24:00 -
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Rroff wrote:James 315 wrote:People contemplate honoring ransoms in EVE? Not honoring ransoms is bad for business.
Unless your victims are unfamiliar with their attackers, in which case reputation is meaningless and it's always better to dishonor ransoms. 
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Paul Oliver
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
3645
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Posted - 2012.09.22 23:28:00 -
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James 315 wrote:Rroff wrote:James 315 wrote:People contemplate honoring ransoms in EVE? Not honoring ransoms is bad for business. Unless your victims are unfamiliar with their attackers, in which case reputation is meaningless and it's always better to dishonor ransoms. And this is why the only people who will publish your articles are the Goons Jimmy boy.
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rodyas
Tie Fighters Inc
756
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Posted - 2012.09.23 06:23:00 -
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Well willis' maneuver only worked, since he was never really outgunned.
In EVE the pirates or gruber will have more guns then you do, making Willis' maneuver a bad one.
So remember, always bring more guns to the party, you can do whatever you want to then, and people will call you a genius.
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