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Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
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Posted - 2011.08.15 18:45:00 -
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Quote: òAccessible ◦Pretty much anyone with a little seed capital (~10m ISK) should be able to establish some small, semi-permanent presence in nullsec. Not everyone wants to get involved in nullsec, but every player that feels even a slight interest but never quite takes the plunge represents a failure of design that we should fix.
You ment 10 BILLION isk, didn't you?
I had close to 15 million after week 2 in the game running and salvaging the sisters of eve in mostly a t1 frigate (needed to come back for the last couple, but the isk figure still stands for the point up to there)
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Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
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Posted - 2011.08.15 19:12:00 -
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Originally by: Myxx Removal of ice from highsec? No thanks. How about you put more ice/better ice in nullsec/lowsec, and leave what ice remains in highsec
Quoted in support ^
I've never mined ice and only mined that green ore for a couple missions I accidently took...but
- it seems to me some people like mining in a sort of 'bag of chips" sort of way.. probably doing it while watching tv etc...but maybe also enjoying the IRC part of the game (----don't discount the value of chat retaining people, and being social about something meaningless is good escape from more stressful social interactions at work and home----)
- connected to above xxxxxxxxxxx many of those people don't really want the attention and the stress of low sec or 0.0 ... Don't drive players from the game by forcing them to do things they don't want to do . Ice mining is important to high sec industrilist, and many of thost guys are the type of players that ... prefer to be self sufficient as just a FUN semi role play .. the nutheads actually have their datacore alts assigned to the very cheapest cores because they need the rather than making expensive ones, selling them and buying what they need and having 90% of the isk left over
--- operative word is FORCING .. carrots not sticks Also. it isn't a balance of PvP vs PVE...and many try to cast it that way.
--- you'll force people out of the game more than you'll create more pvp --- i do support stuff like Hulkageddon that provides some occasional risk in High sec.. just a fairly low odds risk and generally preventable with a minor amound of caution even as a lone player wanting a bit of low key support.
xxxx Don't fall into an easy trap of thinking you'll get more small gang warfare by forcing people who are looking for a bit of low key relaxation into danger......HOWEVER... if they sorta get a spark in their eye and have a lust for highe rates per hour, and random rewards (a few sleeper artifacts? popping randomly from ice in low and null sec?) you rightly point to as exciting.. well .. even they will know that .. they took a chance and got ganked trying to get greedy.
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Diomedes Calypso
Aetolian Armada
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Posted - 2011.08.15 19:21:00 -
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I'm reading between the lines, but I think you're alluding to some limited way of making some isk while online in 0.0 hoping for friends to come on line to group with.
I know people hate WoW reference but the "Daily Quests" were a fairly workable solution to easing certain types of grinds (of course some felt those became mandatory too.. but thats a matter of other types of balance, not the concept itself)
I know that with the use of alts people can get around any limits but it can be a partial barrier--- it certainly provides some friction and those with handfuls of accounts have already discovered many ways to EVE fortunes. --- forcing that might even make spotting botters through intial profiling a bit easier (profiling to follow up, not assume guilt first) seeing a line of characters being signed into from the same computer.
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