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Leeroy McJenkins GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.08.31 17:52:00 - [1] Originally by: Sullen Skoung Edited by: Sullen Skoung on 30/08/2011 18:04:35 Originally by: MsValentineWiggin Originally by: Sullen Skoung pushing carebears to 0.0 will just resdult in those carebears finding games that fit more to what they want other than EVE. Before you PVPers start clapping yourselves on the back, thats what 80% of the playerbase? You honestly think CCP is gonna take a 60% (yes I realize this number is lower, thats because I expect 20% to convert to 0.0 if they have no alternative) cut in player base and just suck it up without resorting to the gold ammo in Nex Store and selling everything thats not nailed down so to say in there? ôCan you change an MMO drastically after it launches?ö Categorically, NO. making high sec financially incapable of supporting people would be drastic to 80% of the players Current indications are that the winter changes are going to make a % of the majority of the customers leave the game, with serious negative consequences for people who want 0.0 development. pretty much, for all you harde core 0.0 ppl are gonna have to realize that the 80% ppl pay for this game gasp MORE than the 20% ppl... I dont get how noone else sees that here So what you are really saying is that group effort or effort in general should not come with more benefits and the game should be changed to EVE: Single Player Online to accommodate all the people who for whatever reason need to put less effort in the game but are entitled to the same rewards as group/more effort people by virtue of paying $15 a month while the smaller amount of people also playing $15 a month should somehow count less because they need to play more casual so others can compete? Makes absolute sense eh? Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
Leeroy McJenkins GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.08.31 18:09:00 - [2] Originally by: Ingvar Angst Look at null for example. Some of the greatest rewards with minimal risk on sov space. That needs to be fixed. Minimal risk because of group effort. It's a sandbox its up to other players to provide the risk, if they don't want to go make a particular part of null more dangerous for the people living there because they are afraid the people living there might jump them with 50 canes then that's on them. Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
Leeroy McJenkins GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.09.01 17:52:00 - [3] Originally by: Ingvar Angst Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins Originally by: Ingvar Angst Look at null for example. Some of the greatest rewards with minimal risk on sov space. That needs to be fixed. Minimal risk because of group effort. It's a sandbox its up to other players to provide the risk, if they don't want to go make a particular part of null more dangerous for the people living there because they are afraid the people living there might jump them with 50 canes then that's on them. You know... that's a helluva good point. It's also something that moving ice or ABC solely to null isn't going to change either. But imagine all those brave bears that will try and lemming themselves into the path of those fast moving hurricanes. Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.
Leeroy McJenkins GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation	Posted - 2011.09.01 18:00:00 - [4] Originally by: Sullen Skoung Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins Makes absolute sense eh? riiiight 20% should rule the 80% eh? Good logic cause all those 80% dont pay $15 too... hey I got a great idea, make it so only the ppl in 0.0 have to pay a monthly fee and let the high sec ppl play F2P. Or maybe that 80% should start banding together and you know, try to win at EVE instead of expecting CCP to hand them things like they are welfare mamas waiting for a check from the government because they are entitled. Everyone paid $15 to sit in the sandbox, what you do with the sand is on you bro. Originally by: Leeroy McJenkins There is no real pvp in EVE, there is only winning or losing and then feeling :smug: about winning or sore about losing. There is nothing wrong with this arrangement.

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