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Azelor Delaria
Caldari Ack-Ack
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Posted - 2011.08.19 05:35:00 -
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I'm not providing proof, because to be honest, there is none. However, members of the corporation can vouch for what I am about to say.
The character iTokeVeldspar is an AWOXer. At 0455 I responded to a corpmate's call for help in Botane. Apparently, iToke had engaged him in a mission and was killing his Proteus. Finding out he had RR, I decided to bring my Navy Scorpion for the DPS. Landing on the mission site, I was on top of the aggressor and engaged. Scrammed, webbed, and being shot at, I was breaking his neutral RR.
Then he dropped corporation in space. There was no aggression countdown against him or warning about what was going on, just CONCORD showing up to pop our Rifter, Proteus, and Navy Scorpion.
Admittedly, the loss of a 1-billion ISK Navy Scorpion is painful, but what's frustrating is the exploit used to drop corp in space when no CEO or director is on. ***** ***** ***** *****
"No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy." |
Jemima Puddlefuck
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Posted - 2011.08.19 05:46:00 -
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Are you telling me that despite him being aggressed to you 3, he dropped corp and you then got concorded, without any sort of warning?
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CaldariCitizen19082011
Caldari In Praise Of Shadows
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Posted - 2011.08.19 05:46:00 -
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Are you telling me that despite him being aggressed to you 3, he dropped corp and you then got concorded, without any sort of warning? Signature removed for not being EVE related. Zymurgist |
Azelor Delaria
Caldari Ack-Ack
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Posted - 2011.08.19 05:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jemima Puddle**** Are you telling me that despite him being aggressed to you 3, he dropped corp and you then got concorded, without any sort of warning?
This is, in fact, what happened. Trust me, we're still going' WTF" as well. ***** ***** ***** *****
"No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy." |
AtheistOfFail
AoF Lottery Services
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Posted - 2011.08.19 06:10:00 -
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Report it, if he dropped corp in space, it's an exploit. You are supposed to dock to be able to change corps.
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Stroumfita
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Posted - 2011.08.19 06:12:00 -
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Maybe he has an alt.... that is CEO on the other corporation and when you aggress he has already an application to his own corp so he logs the CEO alt and accept the application?
I'm not sure if you can make this action while a member that has apply to your corp is in space but this is what I first thought about.
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Cannibal Kane
Kane's Terrorist
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Posted - 2011.08.19 06:33:00 -
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That would be it.
Before he undocked he would have submitted an app into a new corp. Engaged your Protues, you guys come and help he tank long enough to de-aggro. And then leaves corp by having the ceo of the other corp accept his app. And in swoops concord to safe him from your Evil weapons.
It is an exploit since you are only allowed to do that with a session change and therefore you can petition it. ------------------------------------------------ I'm not a Pirate... I'm a Terrorist. |
iTokeVeldspar
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Posted - 2011.08.19 06:33:00 -
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yall were shooting me 3 on 1 not fair *******s
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Cannibal Kane
Kane's Terrorist
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Posted - 2011.08.19 06:41:00 -
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Originally by: iTokeVeldspar yall were shooting me 3 on 1 not fair *******s
Quoting since that reply is just epic... ------------------------------------------------ I'm not a Pirate... I'm a Terrorist. |
Tasiv Deka
Amarr The Baseborn Syndicate
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Posted - 2011.08.19 06:49:00 -
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Originally by: Cannibal Kane
Originally by: iTokeVeldspar yall were shooting me 3 on 1 not fair *******s
Quoting since that reply is just epic...
isnt it just
Yea I listen to Lady Gaga while playing EVE it makes everything seem more I dont know epic |
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Evolution1979
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Posted - 2011.08.19 07:00:00 -
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Originally by: Tasiv Deka
Originally by: Cannibal Kane
Originally by: iTokeVeldspar yall were shooting me 3 on 1 not fair *******s
Quoting since that reply is just epic...
isnt it just
I love this guy allready
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Sutskop
PILSGESCHWADER Monkey Circus
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Posted - 2011.08.19 08:00:00 -
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http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=10414641 for proof. I hope they ban him for a while too.
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Panda Name
Amarr Imperial Academy
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Posted - 2011.08.19 09:28:00 -
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while i do not approve of the corp changing tactic, i find myself in support of the toker of veldspar. look at that mail. look at those rails on that proteus. the horror.
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Awoxina Dojona
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Posted - 2011.08.19 10:49:00 -
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Originally by: Azelor Delaria I'm not providing proof, because to be honest, there is none. However, members of the corporation can vouch for what I am about to say.
The character iTokeVeldspar is an AWOXer. At 0455 I responded to a corpmate's call for help in Botane. Apparently, iToke had engaged him in a mission and was killing his Proteus. Finding out he had RR, I decided to bring my Navy Scorpion for the DPS. Landing on the mission site, I was on top of the aggressor and engaged. Scrammed, webbed, and being shot at, I was breaking his neutral RR.
Then he dropped corporation in space. There was no aggression countdown against him or warning about what was going on, just CONCORD showing up to pop our Rifter, Proteus, and Navy Scorpion.
Admittedly, the loss of a 1-billion ISK Navy Scorpion is painful, but what's frustrating is the exploit used to drop corp in space when no CEO or director is on.
THIS JUST IN!
Another tasty Awoxing hits Eve Online... Many bear tears shed....
More at 10.. BAck to you Ron..
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Darius III
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.08.19 11:15:00 -
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I am deeply saddened to learn that after so much together, this scum has betrayed your trust. What a truly awful person he must be-to turn on his friends like this. I am certain that I speak for all of crime and punishment when I say that we will help you rebuild. I can offer you short term loans or logistical support, bringing you tower mods and other things to help you recover.
If there is anything you would like for us to do-just ask in this thread and the denizens of crime and punishment will come to your aid dear friend! The last time that someone had this done, the outpouring of ISK, support and assistance was overwhelming to the victim corp. They said they got more back than they lost initially. So please do not hesitate if you need our help-thats what we are here for.Thats how I got elected CSM alt.-by helping people-and I am glad to assist whenever I can, as are the rest of the C&P community as a whole.
In closing, I would like to say please do not let this make you more suspicious of people that join. Don't let this one bad apple ruin your trust of fine internet spaceship pilots everywhere. While you may have been tricked this once-it doesnt mean the next guy is there to rip you off! D3
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Jint Hikaru
OffWorld Exploration Inc
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Posted - 2011.08.19 12:12:00 -
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Oh, and because it hasn't been said yet...
Who would let someone called iTokeVeldspar in their Corp. --- Jint Hikaru - Miner / Salvager / Explorer / SpaceBum I can tell you that this is one of the moments when we look at what those at CCP will do and less of what they say. |
P0TAT0
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Posted - 2011.08.19 12:39:00 -
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I for one do not condone such behavior
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Soi Mala
Whacky Waving Inflatable Flailing Arm Tubemen
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Posted - 2011.08.19 14:16:00 -
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Edited by: Soi Mala on 19/08/2011 14:16:42 I support AWOXing, infact i love it.
But dropping corp in space to fool aggro mechanics is an exploit, this guy is lame.
Edit: jemima, your sig is the best I've ever seen.
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Azelor Delaria
Caldari Ack-Ack
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Posted - 2011.08.19 15:56:00 -
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Edited by: Azelor Delaria on 19/08/2011 16:00:52
Originally by: Darius III I am deeply saddened to learn that after so much together, this scum has betrayed your trust. What a truly awful person he must be-to turn on his friends like this. I am certain that I speak for all of crime and punishment when I say that we will help you rebuild. I can offer you short term loans or logistical support, bringing you tower mods and other things to help you recover.
If there is anything you would like for us to do-just ask in this thread and the denizens of crime and punishment will come to your aid dear friend! The last time that someone had this done, the outpouring of ISK, support and assistance was overwhelming to the victim corp. They said they got more back than they lost initially. So please do not hesitate if you need our help-thats what we are here for.Thats how I got elected CSM alt.-by helping people-and I am glad to assist whenever I can, as are the rest of the C&P community as a whole.
In closing, I would like to say please do not let this make you more suspicious of people that join. Don't let this one bad apple ruin your trust of fine internet spaceship pilots everywhere. While you may have been tricked this once-it doesnt mean the next guy is there to rip you off! D3
I hate you Darius. Oh so much.
And then I love you and vote for you for CSM. =/
Anyways, having played this game for a while, I can take a good AWOXxing. In fact, I have participated in a few in my day, and I'm not complaining about the green-on-green. The title may be misleading though. What I'm warning people about is that Toke uses an exploit to draw in CONCORD to kill people. ***** ***** ***** *****
"No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy." |
Gibbo3771
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Posted - 2011.08.19 16:59:00 -
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cant leave corp when your in space so your talking the biggest load of fukin ****e, admit the rats killed you.
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Jason Hardwick
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Posted - 2011.08.19 17:04:00 -
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well tbh cant say you havent earned it sucks for you lol
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Zeke926
Caldari Vengeance Imperium Federal Republic
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Posted - 2011.08.20 01:15:00 -
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Originally by: Gibbo3771 cant leave corp when your in space so your talking the biggest load of fukin ****e, admit the rats killed you.
Yes you can, you just can't be kicked out of a corp while in space.
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penifSMASH
ElitistOps Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2011.08.20 02:00:00 -
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ITokeVeldspar is my hero
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Kalen Vox
Veyr The Veyr Collective
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Posted - 2011.08.20 03:00:00 -
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Even if he did change corp mid-fight (and I don't know if that's possible from my own experience), he should have had a personal aggression countdown with everyone who was shooting him at the time, so, even if he changed corp, there should have been no concord involved.
That's the theory anyway...
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War Kitten
Panda McLegion
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Posted - 2011.08.20 11:18:00 -
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Confirming that this is indeed the petition submission mechanism.
GMs read C&P all the time, looking for trolls petitions to answer.
"Here's your sign..."
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Istyn
Tactical Knightmare Tear Extraction And Reclamation Service
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Posted - 2011.08.20 17:27:00 -
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Originally by: Kalen Vox Even if he did change corp mid-fight (and I don't know if that's possible from my own experience), he should have had a personal aggression countdown with everyone who was shooting him at the time, so, even if he changed corp, there should have been no concord involved.
That's the theory anyway...
He would have de-aggressed before the app was accepted, so he no longer had an aggression countdown and they were only legally able to shoot at him as he was in their corp.
Once the app was accepted, it was no longer legal and surprise concordokken.
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iTokeVeldspar
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Posted - 2011.08.20 21:21:00 -
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wom wom wom do do do
me playing the worlds smallest violen
TEARS R FUN
and u shot me first dont lie u nasty pyrites
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Azelor Delaria
Caldari Ack-Ack
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Posted - 2011.08.20 21:24:00 -
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Originally by: Istyn
Originally by: Kalen Vox Even if he did change corp mid-fight (and I don't know if that's possible from my own experience), he should have had a personal aggression countdown with everyone who was shooting him at the time, so, even if he changed corp, there should have been no concord involved.
That's the theory anyway...
He would have de-aggressed before the app was accepted, so he no longer had an aggression countdown and they were only legally able to shoot at him as he was in their corp.
Once the app was accepted, it was no longer legal and surprise concordokken.
As explained by the GM, this is what happened, and it's considered an exploit since you are required to be docked when joining or leaving a corporation. Doing it in space in order to "surprise" a target (war target or corp member) is considered an exploit and is a bannable offense.
All members were given full refunds of ships and modules lost. ***** ***** ***** *****
"No OPLAN ever survives first contact with the enemy." |
I likegirls
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.20 23:18:00 -
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Confirming I am the butt pirate that tricked him. <3 |
Darius III
Caldari Interstellar eXodus BricK sQuAD.
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Posted - 2011.08.22 02:45:00 -
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Originally by: Azelor Delaria
As explained by the GM, this is what happened, and it's considered an exploit since you are required to be docked when joining or leaving a corporation. Doing it in space in order to "surprise" a target (war target or corp member) is considered an exploit and is a bannable offense.
All members were given full refunds of ships and modules lost.
Glad it got sorted out brother. Interesting mechanic-too bad you never get to know if there was punitive action taken. Keep fighting the good fight-D3
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