If you want to fit smaller guns, just do so.

If you choose to fly a bigger ship, you also choose to be exposed to smaller ships. The best way to get around that is to bring friends to deal with those murderous gnats.

Currently it is always best to simply fit a web+neut while keeping your regular guns. These mods are also useful against bigger target and thus, it is rarely justified to fit smaller guns with the current system.

If you want to fit smaller guns, just do so.

If you choose to fly a bigger ship, you also choose to be exposed to smaller ships. The best way to get around that is to bring friends to deal with those murderous gnats.

If you want to fit smaller guns, just do so.

If you choose to fly a bigger ship, you also choose to be exposed to smaller ships. The best way to get around that is to bring friends to deal with those murderous gnats.

Good. Sounds like it's working properly already, then.

Imagine bs with dozens of point defence turrets for vs frigs/drones and interceptor gridfire vs missiles and defender missile batteries for long range point defence.. Now imagine 250 of those bs and what happens to the server.

Indeed. This specific mechanic does not have any bugs either. Did I make it sound like I was trying to fix something? My bad. It's more about improving the game.

The thing is that it's not an improvement GÇö it's breaking a (reasonably) clear implementation of paper-scissors-rock balancing. Bigger ships are supposed to be utterly horrid against smaller ones; they're supposed to have decreased survivability (at least in the sense of GÇ£the best defence is a good offenceGÇ¥) against small ships.

Trying to reverse that is not a good idea unless you do it all the way, which in this case would mean that those smaller ships are given guns that will pretty much instagib the larger targetsGǪ This whole idea operates on the logic that bigger is better, but that logic does not apply to EVE, and it does so for a very good reason: to keep those smaller ships on the field and to make sure the bigger ships do not like it when they're around.

What you're describing isn't a problem. It's actually a solution to the problem your suggestion is going to create. If you do find it troublesome to have the support ships around to take care of smaller ships, then the game already offers you the solution to fit the guns to match, but this obviously makes the ship much worse, and this too is by design GÇö a very good design, at that.

So removing drones from certain ships and replacing their DPS by smaller guns, while ALSO making those bigger ships easier to alpha is not an idea to consider?

If you want to break the GÇ£bigger is vulnerable to smallerGÇ¥ chain, you have to do it all the way and end up with frigates that fire siege weaponry and DDDs.

Or, you know, torpedo launchers on frigates.

Not big enough. Also, not common enough.

Big ships hit intys easily enough as it is...

Would you like to know more?

Big ships hit intys easily enough as it is...

I would like to know why any of this is needed.

All I see is something that will either unbalance larger ships against smaller ones (and thus a bad addition) or be completely pointless (and thus be a bad addition).

The nebulaes were not "needed", nor were the new missile effects, nor were the new v3 skins, nor was PI, nor was ... etc.

As for what it can actually accomplish, I think it can add more diversity in fittings.

I understand you are skeptical about the implementation, but even the most awesome feature still need to be properly balanced.

It's more about discussing the concept more than any implementation at this point.

GǪand none of those had any effect on balance, unlike what you're proposing so they're utterly irrelevant. It has nothing to do with GÇ£looking coolGÇ¥ GÇö if that's what you're after, ask them to update the firing animations GÇö it has to do with breaking a core balancing principle.

No. It will either lead to one ship class taking over because it gets the best combined power projection against the wider range of targets (i.e. much less variety as all other classes are obsoleted) or it will lead to nothing at all because your addition serves no purpose (no diversity GÇö just more clutter).

So again, what you're asking for is either inherently unbalanced (=bad) or unnecessary (=bad), and either way, it's not needed.

The problem is that this one is all about breaking balance, so the proper way to balance it is to not implement it.

GǪand the concept is always that bigger ship gets an easier time going after smaller ship, which is a concept that is antithetical to how EVE works. It's a fundamentally bad concept for this game and, if anything, the development is luckily headed away from this concept.

Or, you know, torpedo launchers on frigates.

... Aaaand my drake ate a daredevil the other day with 5 light drones, web + neut.

Instead of those 5 light drones and that neut, I could have used the last highslot on my drake to dish out drone DPS but without the neut... and with a lower over all buffer so if I got caught by his friends, it would have melted much faster.

Would you like to know more?