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Fozzy Dorsai	Posted - 2011.08.27 12:55:00 - [1] I know that the cargo bay can be seen on a scan, and the loot drops from there. I know that the corporate bay can't be seen on the scan, and the cargo is lost when ganked. But what about the ship bay? Can that be scanned? Do the ships drop or get vaporized?
Axazia	Posted - 2011.08.27 15:03:00 - [2] The ships go boom; and last I noticed, not scanned.
Whiteknight03 WESAYSO Industries	Posted - 2011.08.27 16:18:00 - [3] Don't know what goes boom or drops (I'm assuming only the cargohold drops). However, I did test what could be scanned after the recent changes. It's cargohold only. Ship Maintenance, Corporate Hangar, and Ore Bay are all invisible to scanners.
Sandrestal	Posted - 2011.08.28 14:03:00 - [4] Originally by: Whiteknight03 Don't know what goes boom or drops (I'm assuming only the cargohold drops). However, I did test what could be scanned after the recent changes. It's cargohold only. Ship Maintenance, Corporate Hangar, and Ore Bay are all invisible to scanners. And if you make courier contracts for stuff you want to put into cargo hold, then the scanner cannot see what you have either
fgft Athonille	Posted - 2011.08.28 14:17:00 - [5] Originally by: Axazia The ships go boom; and last I noticed, not scanned. you are a good. Originally by: Sandrestal And if you make courier contracts for stuff you want to put into cargo hold, then the scanner cannot see what you have either you are a bad and a wrong bad at that Originally by: Skippermonkey keep trying and you can be an hero just like fgft Athonille Originally by: Singeaboot Raj Tbh i am beginning to see the win - it's the haircut, makes people take notice.
Sandrestal	Posted - 2011.08.28 14:23:00 - [6] Originally by: fgft Athonille Originally by: Axazia The ships go boom; and last I noticed, not scanned. you are a good. Originally by: Sandrestal And if you make courier contracts for stuff you want to put into cargo hold, then the scanner cannot see what you have either you are a bad and a wrong bad at that Funny, I do that with my freighter, had mates scan me and all they see is the contract but not whats in it. Maybe you have some secret?
Sandrestal	Posted - 2011.08.28 14:54:00 - [7] Originally by: Sandrestal Originally by: fgft Athonille Originally by: Axazia The ships go boom; and last I noticed, not scanned. you are a good. Originally by: Sandrestal And if you make courier contracts for stuff you want to put into cargo hold, then the scanner cannot see what you have either you are a bad and a wrong bad at that Funny, I do that with my freighter, had mates scan me and all they see is the contract but not whats in it. Maybe you have some secret? Edit add: Need to put items in a container first, then make courier contract. Yes you can scan and see inside courier contract but if otems are in a container inside the contract then you will not be able to see in the container itself. Sorry for the mis-direction
Abdiel Kavash Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.08.29 00:55:00 - [8] Only the common cargo hold can be scanned and drops. All the specialized fuel, ship, ore, corp, etc. bays are unscannable and never drop. Exception: NPC customs can see illegal items in any cargo area. ---
Nezumiiro Noneko	Posted - 2011.08.29 01:41:00 - [9] also a nice point to remember....while not scannable, they are accessible to corpies. Not all ganks require guns. If not in your own "1 man", any random corpie can walk up and take from your holds. You can't block this afaik....about the only thing you can turn off is refitting iirc.
Johnny Wander	Posted - 2011.08.29 02:01:00 - [10] Originally by: Sandrestal Originally by: Sandrestal Originally by: fgft Athonille you are a good. Originally by: Sandrestal And if you make courier contracts for stuff you want to put into cargo hold, then the scanner cannot see what you have either you are a bad and a wrong bad at that Funny, I do that with my freighter, had mates scan me and all they see is the contract but not whats in it. Maybe you have some secret? Edit add: Need to put items in a container first, then make courier contract. Yes you can scan and see inside courier contract but if otems are in a container inside the contract then you will not be able to see in the container itself. Sorry for the mis-direction It's actually the container providing protection, not the contract + container. Cargo scanners can't see inside cans. Hence why I carry the biggest one I can fit in my exploration ship so I can autopilot my shinies in peace. ... And I Wander Away
Baneken Gallente The New Knighthood Apocalypse Now.	Posted - 2011.08.29 03:39:00 - [11] Edited by: Baneken on 29/08/2011 03:40:37 Originally by: Nezumiiro Noneko also a nice point to remember....while not scannable, they are accessible to corpies. Not all ganks require guns. If not in your own "1 man", any random corpie can walk up and take from your holds. You can't block this afaik....about the only thing you can turn off is refitting iirc. Corporate hangar can only be used by corp mates in fleet with you; how ever when orca is "unpiloted" corp hangar is free to use for corp mates. Other hangars are only accessible for the pilot her self. Corp hangars also require same roles as regular corp hangars. http://desusig.crumplecorn.com/sigs.html
Tippia Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.08.29 07:05:00 - [12] Originally by: Johnny Wander It's actually the container providing protection, not the contract + container. Cargo scanners can't see inside cans. Scanners can see inside cans just fine. In fact, the scanner ignores cans and just lists the content ù the can itself makes zero difference. The trick is that it only does this one ôlayerö deep. If you fit a container within a container, it bypasses the first layer as usual, and then lists the container within it. The problem is that you can't put normal cans into normal cans, and the use of contract wrappers is the only way to get around this limitation. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Uzbeg Khan	Posted - 2011.08.29 10:31:00 - [13] Originally by: Baneken Edited by: Baneken on 29/08/2011 03:40:37 Originally by: Nezumiiro Noneko also a nice point to remember....while not scannable, they are accessible to corpies. Not all ganks require guns. If not in your own "1 man", any random corpie can walk up and take from your holds. You can't block this afaik....about the only thing you can turn off is refitting iirc. Corporate hangar can only be used by corp mates in fleet with you; how ever when orca is "unpiloted" corp hangar is free to use for corp mates. Other hangars are only accessible for the pilot her self. Corp hangars also require same roles as regular corp hangars. But the pilot can move stuff from other hangers to the corp hanger right? I'm planning to move an alt with an Orca into c3's with my main in a tengu. CAn I use the orca for probing too?
steave435 Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2011.08.29 10:51:00 - [14] Originally by: Baneken Edited by: Baneken on 29/08/2011 03:40:37 Originally by: Nezumiiro Noneko also a nice point to remember....while not scannable, they are accessible to corpies. Not all ganks require guns. If not in your own "1 man", any random corpie can walk up and take from your holds. You can't block this afaik....about the only thing you can turn off is refitting iirc. Corporate hangar can only be used by corp mates in fleet with you; how ever when orca is "unpiloted" corp hangar is free to use for corp mates. Other hangars are only accessible for the pilot her self. Corp hangars also require same roles as regular corp hangars. Actually the SMA is always accessable for any corp member just like your fitting services, and becomes available to fleet members when in fleet with "allow fleet member usage" set.
Anya Ohaya	Posted - 2011.08.29 13:35:00 - [15] Originally by: Uzbeg Khan But the pilot can move stuff from other hangers to the corp hanger right? I'm planning to move an alt with an Orca into c3's with my main in a tengu. CAn I use the orca for probing too? The pilot can move stuff from cargo to the ore hold or the corp hangar, but only un-packaged ships go in the maintenance bay.
Abdiel Kavash Caldari Paladin Order Fidelas Constans	Posted - 2011.08.29 14:39:00 - [16] To access a corp hangar in the Orca (or any other ship which has one), you still need the respective corp roles to see and take from any hangar division. Even if you are the ship's pilot. ---
Tau Cabalander Retirement Retreat	Posted - 2011.08.29 23:37:00 - [17] Originally by: Abdiel Kavash To access a corp hangar in the Orca (or any other ship which has one), you still need the respective corp roles to see and take from any hangar division. Even if you are the ship's pilot. The pilot can always access his own ship while in space, even if he wouldn't normally have permission to when docked.

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