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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2011.08.30 14:26:00 -
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I think this is a great initiative. I hope the developers are also looking at services like eve-central which are providing this sort of information already :)
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2011.08.30 15:16:00 -
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Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 30/08/2011 15:15:54
 Originally by: CCP Stillman
Originally by: Dierdra Vaal
As such, is it possible that this will be upgraded to an API call? Where, similar to eve-central, I can query one or more itemIds (as well as location parameters, time parameters, etc) and get their up-to-date price statistics back?
Originally by: Arkady Sadik
Have you considered providing an API interface instead of file dumps?
It's no coincidence that the API team has been working with Dr. EyjoG and his team on this. Our ultimate goal is to expose this through an API with more up to date data. This release is to gather feedback and find out how you guys can best benefit from a such potential API.
If you do I'll buy you so much beer at fanfest <3
For my project the eve-central service is sufficient. Min, Max, Avg and Median prices per item, while allowing filtering per region or time period and allowing me to query multiple itemIDs at once.
The biggest thing I'm missing is similar price statistics for faction and deadspace items (basically anything that cannot be traded on the market), but I suspect thats a whole different set of problems.
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2011.08.30 15:25:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Stillman
So this leaves an interesting question I'd be curious to hear. Say that we developed an API for this, which would give you the data for any set of regionID and typeID for 7 days ago. How useful would that be?
Given how quickly markets can change, I think there will be many cases where 7 days will be too long a delay. Could it be a daily updated thing?
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2011.08.30 17:56:00 -
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Originally by: CCP Dr.EyjoG
Does anyone see a problem with providing 24 - 48 hour old data?
for my purpose, no :)
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2011.08.31 10:20:00 -
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Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 31/08/2011 10:32:00
Originally by: Marcel Devereux
This is EVE. They will need to HTFU or do something else. Universal access to data and competition is good.
I have to agree with this. The more information is available, the more interesting things people will come up with. We can already get reasonably up-to-date info through sites like eve-central so lets not pretend this sort of thing doesn't exist already. Having it done by CCP just means it's more reliable (both in data quality and security).
So I'm very much in favour of a 24h (best) or 48h (acceptable) delay. Die hard traders can still get to the good deals first with this delay while 3rd party developers can still get reasonably accurate prices.
Originally by: CCP Stillman
So I'd be very interested in hearing any arguments against provide data every, say 24 hours. Would that ruin it for the small guys, who can't do these sorts of tools?
I rather doubt it tbh. Judging by some of the posts in this thread and the availability of services like eve-central, the super serious traders already have all sorts of financial graphs at their disposal. This might make their data a little more reliable but it doesn't seem to give them anything they don't already have.
And yet, even with these trading behemoths, plenty of small time traders (who aren't quite as srs bsns) manage to flourish just fine.
On top of that, we've seen that quite quickly market analysis tools are made public. I'm sure some people have their own spreadsheets and tools, but there are enough developers in the community who will release their own tools (out of altruism, ego or in the hopes of getting ISK donations, etc). As such I don't think there is a real risk that releasing info at a 24h interval means a few super srs bsns traders will walk all over the rest.
And the benefit is obviously all sorts of interesting things the eve community will no doubt come up with, that might not be possible (or not relevant) if the delay was longer.
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Dierdra Vaal
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Posted - 2011.09.06 13:02:00 -
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Edited by: Dierdra Vaal on 06/09/2011 13:01:58
do we discuss here or on the new forums?
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=6288
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