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Hwong Jian	Posted - 2011.08.30 17:11:00 - [1] This is semi-directed at the CSM Meeting minutes and such. And, I am hoping that it gets a response from CCP. I can only think of two things that would create a need for a non-disclosure agreement: secrets that would hurt the company if they got out and new features that haven't been announced yet. This post IS NOT intended to discuss the former, only the latter. The last "early warning" that we got involved the up-coming introduction of navy faction tier 1 battleships, which were released in winter 2009-2010. That's almost 20 months since the last time CCP published information on upcoming information. We were told that the CSM saw "many new and exciting things that CCP have planned" for us during the emergency summit at the beginning of July. How about updating the In Testing page with some of the things that are in testing? Surely the potential rewards of giving your subscribers a peek at the future outweigh the risks of them being known in advance. There has to be a few things you are working on about which you could give somewhat detailed information. So, I guess it all boils down to this: why would you use a non-disclosure agreement for :internet spaceships:? Addendum: I understand that it is a distinct probability that some good information could be contained in the CSM minutes, but why does that information have to be filtered with the rest of the meeting?
oematoema	Posted - 2011.08.30 17:14:00 - [2] Originally by: Hwong Jian And, I am hoping that it gets a response from CCP. LOL
Abrazzar	Posted - 2011.08.30 17:15:00 - [3] I am sorry, but this information is classified. --------
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Eternal Evocations	Posted - 2011.08.30 17:19:00 - [4] I can see this is going to become a basic economics discussion... so let me just get right to the point, money.
Sullen Skoung	Posted - 2011.08.30 17:19:00 - [5] Simply put its just CCP deflating their ego. If you really look at it, it shows you what bull**** the CSM even is given theres no real transparency at all -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. This is your NGE/CU moment CCP.
Bootleg Jack Potters Field	Posted - 2011.08.30 17:20:00 - [6] NDA is an industry standard, all private meetings in any company that involve design, even if there is nothing special about that particular design, start with NDAs. It is not optional. The employees have all signed NDAs, if they talk to someone who has not, they are violating their own NDA and risking their job. I've had to sign NDAs in job interviews. It means nothing, it is routine.
Sullen Skoung	Posted - 2011.08.30 17:23:00 - [7] Originally by: Bootleg Jack It means nothing, it is routine. Ah so if they chose to break the NDA there would be NO reprecussions at all right? -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. This is your NGE/CU moment CCP.
Barbara Nichole Cryogenic Consultancy Black Sun Alliance	Posted - 2011.08.30 17:25:00 - [8] Edited by: Barbara Nichole on 30/08/2011 17:27:19 Originally by: Hwong Jian This is semi-directed at the CSM Meeting minutes and such. And, I am hoping that it gets a response from CCP. I can only think of two things that would create a need for a non-disclosure agreement: secrets that would hurt the company if they got out and new features that haven't been announced yet. This post IS NOT intended to discuss the former, only the latter. The last "early warning" that we got involved the up-coming introduction of navy faction tier 1 battleships, which were released in winter 2009-2010. That's almost 20 months since the last time CCP published information on upcoming information. We were told that the CSM saw "many new and exciting things that CCP have planned" for us during the emergency summit at the beginning of July. How about updating the In Testing page with some of the things that are in testing? Surely the potential rewards of giving your subscribers a peek at the future outweigh the risks of them being known in advance. There has to be a few things you are working on about which you could give somewhat detailed information. So, I guess it all boils down to this: why would you use a non-disclosure agreement for :internet spaceships:? Addendum: I understand that it is a distinct probability that some good information could be contained in the CSM minutes, but why does that information have to be filtered with the rest of the meeting? I would do it.. it just makes sense. Cover your assets. The CSM have access that most players do not have in any mmo. Even if nothing is exposed by ccp the potential for accidental exposer is there. If you have a real problem with this arrangement ask any attorney why an NDA would be a good idea regardless of whether or not CCP intends to share anything or not.
Bootleg Jack Potters Field	Posted - 2011.08.30 17:26:00 - [9] Originally by: Sullen Skoung Originally by: Bootleg Jack It means nothing, it is routine. Ah so if they chose to break the NDA there would be NO reprecussions at all right? Signing them being routine doesn't change the validity of the document. Breaking an NDA is risk. If what gets leaked is valuable the company might take legal action, if not they won't. Keep in mind it costs money to go after people. In this particular case I would think no matter whether court was involved the person who broke the NDA would instantly have all accounts with their info in them banned.
Hwong Jian	Posted - 2011.08.30 17:30:00 - [10] I am not yet cynical enough to believe that it's all about money or being able to afford developing other games. My hope is, though, that they've protected everything because of the NDA without actually looking at the items and saying "what harm would there be in releasing this information?" Yes, some market speculation will begin. Yes, some people will cry out for or against the announced changes. But, it's a damn sight better than waiting until the day before a patch to release the patch notes (ignoring the fact that the day after you announce the patch, you then push patch day back two days.) Hell, you tried to introduce MT and weathered the backlash. Why not test the waters to see what (if any) backlash there would be from announcing now the :internet spaceship: changes planned for this winter? Hell, shift the focus some. Take an intern, a secretary, or someone that isn't swamped with another task and give them a 48-hour deadline to come up with a two-three sentence summary of what each dev team is working on. Including the DUST 519 and World of Darkness dev teams. Show people how busy you are, that way you have something you can point to and say "that's why it's taking so long for us to respond."

Joe SMASH You Got A Purty Mouth	Posted - 2011.08.30 17:34:00 - [11] You are focusing on the "in space" bit of Eve, that is why you do not see any news of development. CCP no longer cares about what happens outside of a station. Majority of the current CCP dev work is being devoted to our Barbie Dreamhouse and whatever is behind The Door (tm). All of this 'future content' is well known: racial CQs, Corp/Alliance hangouts, sex clubs, gambling parlors, opium dens, 40 player raids, dragons, etc. In space stuff is coming in Winter 2012 at the earliest. So I would expect to see blogs on that next summer. Until then, enjoy playing dress up in your mirror. ----------------------------------- More stuff goes here.
Sullen Skoung	Posted - 2011.08.30 17:42:00 - [12] Originally by: Bootleg Jack Originally by: Sullen Skoung Originally by: Bootleg Jack It means nothing, it is routine. Ah so if they chose to break the NDA there would be NO reprecussions at all right? Signing them being routine doesn't change the validity of the document. Breaking an NDA is risk. If what gets leaked is valuable the company might take legal action, if not they won't. Keep in mind it costs money to go after people. In this particular case I would think no matter whether court was involved the person who broke the NDA would instantly have all accounts with their info in them banned. funny definition of nothing you got there -------- CCP knows better than the players whats good for their game. SOE knew what was best for SWG too. Better than all those players that left too. This is your NGE/CU moment CCP.
Tippia Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.08.30 18:27:00 - [13] Edited by: Tippia on 30/08/2011 18:33:34 Originally by: Sullen Skoung funny definition of nothing you got there It's a pretty normal definition. You simply shouldn't read anything into / read nothing into the existence of an NDA and their having to sign it. There is no hidden meaning in this act. It's how businessesà wellà do business. Really, the word you're having problems with isn't ônothingö ù it's ôitö. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Marchocias	Posted - 2011.08.30 18:29:00 - [14] The first rule of NDA club is: You do not talk about NDA club. ---- I like the base.
SupaKudoRio	Posted - 2011.08.30 18:37:00 - [15] Can someone on the CSM just leak the damn transcript already? It's pretty clear CCP will never approve it being published. Ye'llo?
Tippia Caldari Sunshine and Lollipops	Posted - 2011.08.30 18:42:00 - [16] Originally by: SupaKudoRio Can someone on the CSM just leak the damn transcript already? It's pretty clear CCP will never approve it being published. àand that is why you introduce individual spelling errors in each version you send for a particular recipient. ùùù ôIf you're not willing to fight for what you have in ≡v≡ you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.ö ù Karath Piki
Mendolus Aurelius Federation Eternal Evocations	Posted - 2011.08.30 18:48:00 - [17] Originally by: Tippia Originally by: SupaKudoRio Can someone on the CSM just leak the damn transcript already? It's pretty clear CCP will never approve it being published. àand that is why you introduce individual spelling errors in each version you send for a particular recipient. LOL, look how clever you are, talk about sneaky!
Cipher Jones Minmatar	Posted - 2011.08.30 18:55:00 - [18] CCP's NDA policies are much more lenient than most companies. I've worked for places where you aren't even allowed to disclose your co-workers names, or speak to any media even to say you work there w/o written permission. . Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
Mr Kidd	Posted - 2011.08.30 19:09:00 - [19] Originally by: Mendolus I can see this is going to become a basic economics discussion... so let me just get right to the point, money. This.
White Tree	Posted - 2011.08.30 19:12:00 - [20] Originally by: Mendolus I can see this is going to become a basic economics discussion... so let me just get right to the point, money. Ding ding ding! _______________________________________ Follow me on Twitter!



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