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Benilopax
Gallente
Federal Defence Union
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Posted - 2011.08.30 19:37:00 -
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CCP's plan to ignore FW and it's players seems to have payed off. Recently returned after a short break after the Invalid patch, to find militia channel dead, corp channel dead and what little chat that was going in on has finally been snuffed out. I would like to congratulate CCP on it's total disregard of those players who demanded a CCP response to the lack of any CCP rep at the fanfest round table on FW.
It required one guy answering questions guys.
Pitiful.
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William Cooly
Sol Enterprises
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Posted - 2011.08.30 19:39:00 -
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I hated fw, but I agree. It was a worthwhile part of the game. And I shouldn't have to be saying that in the past tense.
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Abrazzar
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Posted - 2011.08.30 19:40:00 -
[3]
Edited by: Abrazzar on 30/08/2011 19:40:30
Finally.
Now CCP can roll out the peace storyline to unite again against the Sansha and scrap the whole factional warfare stuff.
(this is the fix)
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CARB0N FIBER
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Posted - 2011.08.30 19:41:00 -
[4]
Closing thread. If you would like to discuss CCP actions further you are welcome to contact us via a petition but please do not discuss on the forums.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.30 19:47:00 -
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Agreeing with a second OP today in another "CCP totally blew us off hard" thread.
Do you guys need a pep talk or something? Hug?
I don't FW. However you leaving it broken is slamming another door in my face.
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Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Bane Necran
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.30 20:11:00 -
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Gallente FW?
Everyone probably got sick of being perma-jammed in missions. I know i did.
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Vin Hellsing
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Posted - 2011.08.30 20:22:00 -
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If you refer to the CCP Soundwave Q&A I posted over the weekend, it's been stated that it's on CCP's list to have new Factional Warfare additions. No timetables, though.
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Benilopax
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2011.08.30 20:26:00 -
[8]
 Originally by: Vin Hellsing
If you refer to the CCP Soundwave Q&A I posted over the weekend, it's been stated that it's on CCP's list to have new Factional Warfare additions. No timetables, though.
Too little too late. When was fanfest? March?
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Shaalira D'arc
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Posted - 2011.08.30 20:26:00 -
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WiS has been on CCP's list for the past half decade.
So, check back in '17? Spring of '18, maybe?
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Vin Hellsing
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Posted - 2011.08.30 20:39:00 -
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Originally by: Benilopax
Originally by: Vin Hellsing
If you refer to the CCP Soundwave Q&A I posted over the weekend, it's been stated that it's on CCP's list to have new Factional Warfare additions. No timetables, though.
Too little too late. When was fanfest? March?
The Q&A I did was at PAX Prime, dude. Last weekend.
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Cipher Jones
Minmatar
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Posted - 2011.08.30 20:48:00 -
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Originally by: Vin Hellsing
Originally by: Benilopax
Originally by: Vin Hellsing
If you refer to the CCP Soundwave Q&A I posted over the weekend, it's been stated that it's on CCP's list to have new Factional Warfare additions. No timetables, though.
Too little too late. When was fanfest? March?
The Q&A I did was at PAX Prime, dude. Last weekend.
I appreciate the interview first off. Thank you.
However the "no time-frame" issue is very much the double edged sword. I (and many others) complained that CCP makes promises and then doesn't deliver in time.
However, making a promise with no time-frame is essentially saying nothing.
So what do you do? Say never? Wrong answer. Say soon? No one wants to hear that. Say yes and give a date? Better be online when you say it will.
blah blah blah actions words talk talk dictaphone dictaphone...
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Adapt and overcome or become a monkey on an evolution poster.
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Sullen Skoung
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Posted - 2011.08.30 20:51:00 -
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Originally by: Shaalira D'arc
WiS has been on CCP's list for the past half decade.
So, check back in '17? Spring of '18, maybe?
thats kinda funny given the result was one buggy room
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Zirise
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.08.30 20:57:00 -
[13]
Originally by: Cipher Jones
Originally by: Vin Hellsing
Originally by: Benilopax
Originally by: Vin Hellsing
If you refer to the CCP Soundwave Q&A I posted over the weekend, it's been stated that it's on CCP's list to have new Factional Warfare additions. No timetables, though.
Too little too late. When was fanfest? March?
The Q&A I did was at PAX Prime, dude. Last weekend.
I appreciate the interview first off. Thank you.
However the "no time-frame" issue is very much the double edged sword. I (and many others) complained that CCP makes promises and then doesn't deliver in time.
However, making a promise with no time-frame is essentially saying nothing.
So what do you do? Say never? Wrong answer. Say soon? No one wants to hear that. Say yes and give a date? Better be online when you say it will.
blah blah blah actions words talk talk dictaphone dictaphone...
AAA developers can't turn on a dime. It will be done when its done. If you don't like it, quit.
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centurion zulu
Phantom Squad
Atlas.
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Posted - 2011.08.30 21:12:00 -
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Too little too late. When was fanfest? March?
The Q&A I did was at PAX Prime, dude. Last weekend.
I appreciate the interview first off. Thank you.
However the "no time-frame" issue is very much the double edged sword. I (and many others) complained that CCP makes promises and then doesn't deliver in time.
However, making a promise with no time-frame is essentially saying nothing.
So what do you do? Say never? Wrong answer. Say soon? No one wants to hear that. Say yes and give a date? Better be online when you say it will.
blah blah blah actions words talk talk dictaphone dictaphone...
AAA developers can't turn on a dime. It will be done when its done. If you don't like it, quit.
LOL.......another CCP alt detected with a big mouth.
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Hwong Jian
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Posted - 2011.08.30 21:15:00 -
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No no! Zirise isn't a CCP alt!
Zirise is Test Alliance. The alliance that was forced out of their own sov by Sniggwaffe and now spam Jita because that's the most damaging action they can take in the whole game.
They're on the forums, though, because they've been getting gagged in game.
Don't worry. With the 'block' feature actually blocking entire alliances properly and the new forums coming out next week, you truly will be able to ignore them.
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Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.08.30 22:30:00 -
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Edited by: Cearain on 30/08/2011 22:31:02
Edited by: Cearain on 30/08/2011 22:30:46
In June 2010 CCP said Incarna was taking up so many resources that FW and several other things would not be worked on for 18 months.
So it will probably be 3-5 months before we hear about anything - assuming everything with incarna is going to plan.
It was terrible news to hear it back in june but they did tell us.
CCP soundwave said FW was very high on the priority list so nothing suggests that fw is dead or dying. It's just that 18 months is a long time.
I don't think anyone was working on fw so its not like anyone would have anything new to say about it at a round table. FW has too much potential to be scrapped.
-Cearain
Make fw pvp not pve
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1329906&page=1 |
Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.08.30 22:37:00 -
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Same with many other features that where put on the back burner. 18 months is VERY optimistic since the time table given for a lot of the other changes is in the 3-5 year range.
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Zirise
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
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Posted - 2011.08.30 23:08:00 -
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Originally by: Hwong Jian
No no! Zirise isn't a CCP alt!
Zirise is Test Alliance. The alliance that was forced out of their own sov by Sniggwaffe and now spam Jita because that's the most damaging action they can take in the whole game.
They're on the forums, though, because they've been getting gagged in game.
Don't worry. With the 'block' feature actually blocking entire alliances properly and the new forums coming out next week, you truly will be able to ignore them.
Confirming we are terrible and now in Jita.
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Ris Dnalor
Minmatar
Fleet of Doom
RaVeN Federation
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Posted - 2011.08.30 23:11:00 -
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Edited by: Ris Dnalor on 30/08/2011 23:11:30
SH|T, let's just declare peace, allow snowball launchers to be mounted on shuttles, and remove all other weapons and ships from the game. They only distract people from using the NeX store anyways.
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Queue K'Umber
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Posted - 2011.08.30 23:15:00 -
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Darn it.
I just rejoined and was having fun.
Now I have to quit again.
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Louis deGuerre
Gallente
Malevolence.
Imperial 0rder
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Posted - 2011.08.30 23:34:00 -
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It was fun and I hope one day it will be fixed. However, it's been broken for what, 2 years now ?
I really doubt they will ever fix it.
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Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2011.08.30 23:43:00 -
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Originally by: Cearain
Edited by: Cearain on 30/08/2011 22:31:02
Edited by: Cearain on 30/08/2011 22:30:46
In June 2010 CCP said Incarna was taking up so many resources that FW and several other things would not be worked on for 18 months.
So it will probably be 3-5 months before we hear about anything - assuming everything with incarna is going to plan.
It was terrible news to hear it back in june but they did tell us.
CCP soundwave said FW was very high on the priority list so nothing suggests that fw is dead or dying. It's just that 18 months is a long time.
I don't think anyone was working on fw so its not like anyone would have anything new to say about it at a round table. FW has too much potential to be scrapped.
If it is so high on their priority, why have they not given any feedback in this thread for MONTHS now???
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1489084
I started it when I found out from a corp mate who was at fanfest that they didn't show up to the round table. It had some initial CCP interaction and promises of feedback from CCP Soundwave. But we heard nothing. The interview from PAX where Soundwave said it was a "high priority" is the first feedback we've had for months, and I would hardly call it solid...
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Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.08.31 14:53:00 -
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Originally by: Har Harrison
Originally by: Cearain
Edited by: Cearain on 30/08/2011 22:31:02
Edited by: Cearain on 30/08/2011 22:30:46
In June 2010 CCP said Incarna was taking up so many resources that FW and several other things would not be worked on for 18 months.
So it will probably be 3-5 months before we hear about anything - assuming everything with incarna is going to plan.
It was terrible news to hear it back in june but they did tell us.
CCP soundwave said FW was very high on the priority list so nothing suggests that fw is dead or dying. It's just that 18 months is a long time.
I don't think anyone was working on fw so its not like anyone would have anything new to say about it at a round table. FW has too much potential to be scrapped.
If it is so high on their priority, why have they not given any feedback in this thread for MONTHS now???
http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=1489084
I started it when I found out from a corp mate who was at fanfest that they didn't show up to the round table. It had some initial CCP interaction and promises of feedback from CCP Soundwave. But we heard nothing. The interview from PAX where Soundwave said it was a "high priority" is the first feedback we've had for months, and I would hardly call it solid...
Yeah I agree that was bad to say they would give feed back and then not give any. I think someone in that thread said ccp soundwave would give feedback. But he probably didn't realize there was no feed back to give.
They really haven't given any feed back on low sec. But I don't think that means they are going to scrap all of low sec.
The only facts we have is that 1) In June 2010 they said it would be 18 months. 2) They had no feed back to give at fanfest 2011, and they apparently have no feedback to give in August 2011 other than to say no work has been done on it but it is a high priority.
I think they are smart enough to realize fw can be a huge draw to eve and will not just abandon it when all it really needs is some minor fixing up. But if people want to scream that it is dead they can. It may be dead, but I don't think so.
-Cearain
Make fw pvp not pve
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Brooks Puuntai
Minmatar
Nomadic Asylum
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Posted - 2011.08.31 14:58:00 -
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Originally by: Cearain
I think they are smart enough to realize fw can be a huge draw to eve and will not just abandon it when all it really needs is some minor fixing up.
You would think so wouldn't you. However these same people believe that MT and playing dress up are the future of Eve. So yeah I wouldn't put to much faith into that.
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Borun Tal
Minmatar
Space Pods Inc
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Posted - 2011.08.31 15:15:00 -
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People have been saying FW is dead/dying the entire time I've been playing. My time in FW is a blast (I'm not in it right now), meet some decent players, and in general have a good time (it *is* a game, after all). I don't grind in FW, but I guess for those that are in it strictly for the ISK it's a pain.
I'll be going back to FW (probably Caldari or Amarr) as soon as missioning gets boring again. :)
ps: CCP has made it clear that they don't give a rat's arse about FW, so those of us that do FW make of it what we can.
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Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2011.09.01 02:29:00 -
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Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Originally by: Cearain
I think they are smart enough to realize fw can be a huge draw to eve and will not just abandon it when all it really needs is some minor fixing up.
You would think so wouldn't you. However these same people believe that MT and playing dress up are the future of Eve. So yeah I wouldn't put to much faith into that.
+1
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Vin Hellsing
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Posted - 2011.09.01 02:30:00 -
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Edited by: Vin Hellsing on 01/09/2011 02:30:32
Originally by: Har Harrison
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Originally by: Cearain
I think they are smart enough to realize fw can be a huge draw to eve and will not just abandon it when all it really needs is some minor fixing up.
You would think so wouldn't you. However these same people believe that MT and playing dress up are the future of Eve. So yeah I wouldn't put to much faith into that.
+1
Actually there are different teams with differing priorities. One of those teams probably has an eye on FW. I'm sure CCP has plans in mind for it next year.
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Sullen Skoung
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Posted - 2011.09.01 03:24:00 -
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Originally by: Vin Hellsing
Edited by: Vin Hellsing on 01/09/2011 02:30:32
Originally by: Har Harrison
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Originally by: Cearain
I think they are smart enough to realize fw can be a huge draw to eve and will not just abandon it when all it really needs is some minor fixing up.
You would think so wouldn't you. However these same people believe that MT and playing dress up are the future of Eve. So yeah I wouldn't put to much faith into that.
+1
Actually there are different teams with differing priorities. One of those teams probably has an eye on FW. I'm sure CCP has plans in mind for it next year.
I think that eye got plucked out an thats what the monocles are for
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Zeerover
Wolfsbrigade
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Posted - 2011.09.01 03:32:00 -
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Edited by: Zeerover on 01/09/2011 03:34:35
Some of it is down to the loop sided timezones. We roll in the EU evening with 20-50 man fleets looking for anything to shoot. Minmatar/Gallente roll the US evening with 20-50 man fleets looking for anything to shoot.
Some brave souls take plexing seriously, but most of us either scour the pipes looking for a fight, or mission on alts.
The mission work to keep us all stocked in shiny ships, but since there are few fights, they're just stocked...
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Andreus Ixiris
Gallente
Mixed Metaphor
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Posted - 2011.09.01 03:36:00 -
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Too little, too late. CCP hasn't fixed the exploiters, the unbalanced missions, the unbalanced occupancy systems, the unbalanced headcount, the lack of reward for occupancy in general or anything else yet - what makes you think they're ever going to fix it?
FW was dead the moment Empyrean Age was released. It's clear CCP never intended to make it the least bit interesting, balanced, fair or playable.
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CEO, Mixed Metaphor
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Pr1ncess Alia
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Posted - 2011.09.01 03:37:00 -
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Originally by: Vin Hellsing
Edited by: Vin Hellsing on 01/09/2011 02:30:32
Originally by: Har Harrison
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Originally by: Cearain
I think they are smart enough to realize fw can be a huge draw to eve and will not just abandon it when all it really needs is some minor fixing up.
You would think so wouldn't you. However these same people believe that MT and playing dress up are the future of Eve. So yeah I wouldn't put to much faith into that.
+1
Actually there are different teams with differing priorities. One of those teams probably has an eye on FW. I'm sure CCP has plans in mind for it next year.
Stockholm syndrome^^
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Pytria Le'Danness
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Posted - 2011.09.01 03:38:00 -
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Originally by: Benilopax
CCP's plan to ignore FW and it's players seems to have payed off. Recently returned after a short break after the Invalid patch...
Wasn't it named "Incashna" ?
Anyway, the new implemententation of FW will happen as soon as the stations open (soon (tm)). You can buy Sterling shirts in different colors and shout at each other in the corridors.
Fun fact: it will have more game effect than the current FW since you take PLEX out of the game to pay the shirts.
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Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2011.09.01 04:57:00 -
[33]
Originally by: Vin Hellsing
Edited by: Vin Hellsing on 01/09/2011 02:30:32
Originally by: Har Harrison
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Originally by: Cearain
I think they are smart enough to realize fw can be a huge draw to eve and will not just abandon it when all it really needs is some minor fixing up.
You would think so wouldn't you. However these same people believe that MT and playing dress up are the future of Eve. So yeah I wouldn't put to much faith into that.
+1
Actually there are different teams with differing priorities. One of those teams probably has an eye on FW. I'm sure CCP has plans in mind for it next year.
Vin - you DO NOT know... One session of Q&A with Soundwave has not given you insight into this matter. I have been making various fix FW threads since just after fan fest when CCP failed to turn up to the round table discussion. Guess what we have had in response from CCP
1) Promises that they will make it up to us
2) Promises they will respond to the thread once Soundwave got back from Russia
3) Promises that they will answer the FW questions from the Ask a dev thread
4) The response that they will look at low sec/FW AFTER 0.0
Excuse me for being a little pessimistic, but I am taking this as an opportunity to view what CCP DO regarding responding to FW on the forums, not what they SAY in a Q&A...
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Mister Swift
Caldari
Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse
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Posted - 2011.09.01 05:54:00 -
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Completely dead?
I guess both our and the Gallente fleet Tuesday night were part of my imagination :)
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Estephania
Independent Political Analysts
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Posted - 2011.09.01 06:27:00 -
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Who needs FW when we can walk around the table in prison cell and buy shiney panties from NEX store?
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Herping yourDerp
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Posted - 2011.09.01 06:29:00 -
[36]
what? warfare? this game is called
space monocles online
for a reason
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
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Posted - 2011.09.01 07:10:00 -
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As I've said before, FW is the unwanted stepchild - Noah Ward was (along with others IIRC) vehemently opposed to the whole idea.
I suspect that given the Icelandic attitude to making mistakes (ie never admit it) FW is a poisoned chalice for anyone but extremely senior staff who were around when the FW expansion happened - and they're not interested in spaceships at this point in time.
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Cpt Fina
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2011.09.01 07:48:00 -
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What's wrong with fw?
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Vyktor Abyss
The Abyss Corporation
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Posted - 2011.09.01 08:44:00 -
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A bit melodramatic to say it is dead when there are many people like me still "playing" it.
One funny thing though is a minor change I noticed CCP slipped in one of the recent patches without any patch notes/discussion I found : Removing Fed Navy Stasis Web 5 run BPCs from the LP store.
It is basically a nerf to FW mission runners, which is kind of comedy since FW missions were one of the last major reasons for people to join FW. CCP reducing one of the major LP to ISK conversions for Gallente FW has made LP value tank twice as fast. Even FW missioners are giving up to run highsec lvl 4's. 
FW could REALLY use some 'ownership' from a CCP dev, and more communication. This is one of the most ignored Eve player communities. Perhaps if some comedy cross faction FW 0.0 'alliance' were formed, CCP might take notice and develop a plan for FW beginning after the 8 years of 0.0 changes.
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Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.09.01 09:25:00 -
[40]
Originally by: Vin Hellsing
If you refer to the CCP Soundwave Q&A I posted over the weekend, it's been stated that it's on CCP's list to have new Factional Warfare additions. No timetables, though.
Jeezus christ Vinn Hellsing, are you new or something? All your responses on these forums begin and end with you saying "it'll be ok...eventually".
If you look at CCP's "to do" list and then look at what they actually have done there is a serious lack of results. And it is results what we need, action, not just another soonTM.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.01 09:51:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Cpt Fina
What's wrong with fw?
For a start, I refer you to the earlier comment of a decadent Gallente scumbag:
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
the exploiters, the unbalanced missions, the unbalanced occupancy systems, the unbalanced headcount, the lack of reward for occupancy in general or anything else yet
There's a load of stuff on top of that, not least the flawed and unbalanced plexing system.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.01 09:54:00 -
[42]
Originally by: Ciar Meara
Originally by: Vin Hellsing
If you refer to the CCP Soundwave Q&A I posted over the weekend, it's been stated that it's on CCP's list to have new Factional Warfare additions. No timetables, though.
Jeezus christ Vinn Hellsing, are you new or something? All your responses on these forums begin and end with you saying "it'll be ok...eventually".
If you look at CCP's "to do" list and then look at what they actually have done there is a serious lack of results. And it is results what we need, action, not just another soonTM.
Yep, without some sort of timetable or at the very least some sort of order of priority CCP's promises to fix FW "eventually" are meaningless.
After all, the Sun will turn into a red giant eventually.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Tribunia
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Posted - 2011.09.01 10:06:00 -
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Edited by: Tribunia on 01/09/2011 10:08:46
Originally by: Sullen Skoung
...thats kinda funny given the result was one buggy room
Wrong.
You are forgetting the underpinnings they had to develop to give us WiS at all. CQ is just the 1st glimps of many more buggy rooms to come.
Also, teh adorable NeX Store providing hints of a splendid MT future for EVE Online wher it has become free to play and everyone with a wallet pilots titans in glitter costumes after week one.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2011.09.01 10:09:00 -
[44]
It's worse than that, eve's dead jim dead jim dead jim
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Espiritu Santo
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Posted - 2011.09.01 10:28:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Dr Fighter
It's worse than that, eve's dead jim dead jim dead jim
EvE is dieing, CCP have wrecked EvE......
It all began when they nerfd speed and nos, creating blob warfare, many left then.
And NOW many have left because CCP are now only interested in lining their pockets and getting as much isk out of the communities pockets, to be re-injected by idiots buying plexes for isk.
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Dr Fighter
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Posted - 2011.09.01 10:32:00 -
[46]
Originally by: Espiritu Santo
Originally by: Dr Fighter
It's worse than that, eve's dead jim dead jim dead jim
EvE is dieing, CCP have wrecked EvE......
It all began when they nerfd speed and nos, creating blob warfare, many left then.
Not true it brought needed ballence at the time, i was thereÖ
Originally by: Espiritu Santo
And NOW many have left because CCP are now only interested in lining their pockets and getting as much isk out of the communities pockets, to be re-injected by idiots buying plexes for isk.
to be fair though ccp havnt FORCED us to pay for anything we must have to stay competitive, i think you sound a bit too much like one of these bandwagon haters.
CCP havnt kept all their promises, but i DO STILL enjoy playing the game but i spose im one of those forum guys that actually still does :P
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Espiritu Santo
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Posted - 2011.09.01 10:40:00 -
[47]
Originally by: Dr Fighter
Originally by: Espiritu Santo
Originally by: Dr Fighter
It's worse than that, eve's dead jim dead jim dead jim
EvE is dieing, CCP have wrecked EvE......
It all began when they nerfd speed and nos, creating blob warfare, many left then.
Not true it brought needed ballence at the time, i was thereÖ
Originally by: Espiritu Santo
And NOW many have left because CCP are now only interested in lining their pockets and getting as much isk out of the communities pockets, to be re-injected by idiots buying plexes for isk.
to be fair though ccp havnt FORCED us to pay for anything we must have to stay competitive, i think you sound a bit too much like one of these bandwagon haters.
CCP havnt kept all their promises, but i DO STILL enjoy playing the game but i spose im one of those forum guys that actually still does :P
Yes i was there also.........
There is a difference between balance and total wreckage.....
I personally do not enjoy BLOB warfare as now it is not to do with ship fitments and experience, now its decided by who has the biggest blob....
CCP have kept no promises apart from the ******ed ones....
Incarna must be THE biggest pile of S*** and THE biggest let down in all of EvE history.
Thumbs up to CCP for wasting months and months of design/creation/implementation when they should have been listening to the community.
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Cpt Fina
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
space weaponry and trade
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Posted - 2011.09.01 10:53:00 -
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Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Cpt Fina
What's wrong with fw?
For a start, I refer you to the earlier comment of a decadent Gallente scumbag:
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
the exploiters, the unbalanced missions, the unbalanced occupancy systems, the unbalanced headcount, the lack of reward for occupancy in general or anything else yet
There's a load of stuff on top of that, not least the flawed and unbalanced plexing system.
So baically some factions get better loot and NPC-bounties than others?
Sorry for being a total noob but what are the benefits of occupying systems in FW?
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Ciar Meara
Amarr
Virtus Vindice
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Posted - 2011.09.01 11:08:00 -
[49]
Originally by: Cpt Fina
Sorry for being a total noob but what are the benefits of occupying systems in FW?
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.01 12:00:00 -
[50]
Originally by: Cpt Fina
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Cpt Fina
What's wrong with fw?
For a start, I refer you to the earlier comment of a decadent Gallente scumbag:
Originally by: Andreus Ixiris
the exploiters, the unbalanced missions, the unbalanced occupancy systems, the unbalanced headcount, the lack of reward for occupancy in general or anything else yet
There's a load of stuff on top of that, not least the flawed and unbalanced plexing system.
So baically some factions get better loot and NPC-bounties than others?
Nope, the problem isn't simply an imbalance in rewards.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.09.01 13:23:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Originally by: Cearain
I think they are smart enough to realize fw can be a huge draw to eve and will not just abandon it when all it really needs is some minor fixing up.
You would think so wouldn't you. However these same people believe that MT and playing dress up are the future of Eve. So yeah I wouldn't put to much faith into that.
Yeah but I would think they have to realize that was a mistake at this point. Yes there was an outcry when CCP basically said they were going to abandon spaceships for 18 months but there were also some players posting about how much they were looking forward to dress up.
Hell there are *still* some players saying they look forward to incarna - as if they don't realize it is already here! 
But the 18 months is about to run. I think CCP is probably realizing they need to cap off the resources in "avatar walking" and start working on the large parts of the game that actually involve game play and are broken and neglected. FW is an obvious one.
-Cearain
Make fw pvp not pve
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Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.09.01 13:32:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Vin Hellsing
Edited by: Vin Hellsing on 01/09/2011 02:30:32
Originally by: Har Harrison
Originally by: Brooks Puuntai
Originally by: Cearain
I think they are smart enough to realize fw can be a huge draw to eve and will not just abandon it when all it really needs is some minor fixing up.
You would think so wouldn't you. However these same people believe that MT and playing dress up are the future of Eve. So yeah I wouldn't put to much faith into that.
+1
Actually there are different teams with differing priorities. One of those teams probably has an eye on FW. I'm sure CCP has plans in mind for it next year.
No Vin what you say, seems to contradict the dev blogs and the csm minutes.
Going from memory:
The last dev blog describing the teams assigned to stuff was posted about july of 2010. There were only about 7 out of over a hundred devs assigned to in space features. The last csm minutes explained that no new devs were being assigned to any in space features.
Basically the only team working on in space features is team BFF. They are in charge of the null sec expansion. Thats right the team that was originally supposed to try to do the minor fixes and low hanging fruit is basically all we have for any flying in space features.
That said I think they are very good team. They basically put all of incursions together. And they probably don't need more than 7 people to fix fw and make it work well.
Based on the information provided by ccp this is the best estimate of what is going on. If any of this is inaccurate I would love for someone from ccp to correct me. Actually I would love someone doing an interview to ask what devs are assigned to in space features - how many and what inspace features are they working on.
-Cearain
Make fw pvp not pve
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2011.09.01 13:56:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Cearain
Hell there are *still* some players saying they look forward to incarna - as if they don't realize it is already here!
Is it really here though?
Because I was originally led to believe that we'd be able to, y'know, leave our quarters and meet up with people and stuff.
Dulce et decorum est pro imperium mori.
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Bux Naked
Stained Sheets
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Posted - 2011.09.01 14:08:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Borun Tal
..but I guess for those that are in it strictly for the ISK it's a pain.
lolwut. I make so much isk running FW missions it's stupid. When I can be bothered to logon that is :D
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Joe Skellington
Minmatar
Matari Legion Holding
Matari Legion
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Posted - 2011.09.01 14:10:00 -
[55]
Edited by: Joe Skellington on 01/09/2011 14:10:38
Removing player to player faction standings probably didn't help either.
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Shaalira D'arc
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Posted - 2011.09.01 15:20:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Cpt Fina
Sorry for being a total noob but what are the benefits of occupying systems in FW?
Occupying a system? Nothing.
You get a standings boost from winning a plex, which is perhaps the biggest mechanical benefit. That's soon superseded by mission-running once your standings is high enough to run top-level FW missions. Also, you don't actually have to win systems to get the standings.
Aside from that...
A colored dot changes on the map.
You get a number in the militia office called 'victory points.' It's not used for anything.
... and that's about it. FW occupancy changes nothing meaningful for players, at all.
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Har Harrison
Amarrian Retribution
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Posted - 2011.09.05 02:02:00 -
[57]
Is it still dead? Just thought I would check!!!
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Cearain
Caldari
The IMPERIUM of LaZy NATION
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Posted - 2011.09.05 03:39:00 -
[58]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Originally by: Cearain
Hell there are *still* some players saying they look forward to incarna - as if they don't realize it is already here!
Is it really here though?
Because I was originally led to believe that we'd be able to, y'know, leave our quarters and meet up with people and stuff.
Yes you will be able to walk your avatar in front of different backdrops. But it is still just walking. Incarna is already here.
Your avatar will not actually talk. It will still be your voice on vent, or you typing into chat window. What you see on screen will still just be a backdrop.
-Cearain
Make fw pvp not pve
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