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Prometheus Wrong
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Posted - 2005.03.03 01:29:00 -
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First, I'd like to start off by stating that yes, in fact, I am retarded: save your flames.
Second, I'd like to know how many of those interested noticed that these supposed "deep space" transports don't have ******* TURRET HARDPOINTS!?! OMG! I thought it was gimpy that they had such crap cargo capacity, and fewer other slots, but WTF!?!? Even a WREATH has a turret hardpoint!
I, like a gimp, have been training up minmatar indy lvl. 5. DOH!
CCP, what fairy-tale wonder-land do you live in where you can get people to "escort" industrial ships!? HO-LEE-SH-IT.
Congradulations, CCP, you made a class of ships more worthless than Logistics.
Put some damned guns on these things before you work up the gumption to say they're something for "deep space." Try playing your game on occasion! Why did you eve BOTHER to start a thread asking what people wanted out of a T2 indy? Can we say "ASSULT SHIP BAIT." Yes, please, I'd like to fly an 80 million isk target, thank you.
Would I still be ****ed if I hadn't wasted the time? HELL YEAH! What's the point of these things?
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Skelator
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Posted - 2005.03.03 01:35:00 -
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CCP, what fairy-tale wonder-land do you live in where you can get people to "escort" industrial ships!? HO-LEE-SH-IT.
We Escort ALL our Industrials in dangerous territory.
Corp OP Commanders who dont shouldnt be commanders then.
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Riddari
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Posted - 2005.03.03 01:37:00 -
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Where on earth do I buy an elite Gallente industrial?
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Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2005.03.03 01:38:00 -
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Dude, that turret slot is for decoration. You weren't actually using that were you? 
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Zyrla Bladestorm
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Posted - 2005.03.03 01:39:00 -
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I gather turrets were left out because otherwise these ships would be uber-tanking super-afk miners :P which they've never been fond of.
The blockade runners are still tougher than the tech I ships, while also being faster and having weapon slots (a turret and a missile usually!) they dont have the uber cargo though so they cant become uber afk miners 
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Stetu
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Posted - 2005.03.03 01:50:00 -
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Indies shouldn't have highslots, and they should have 1 or 2 med slots.
They're not combat vessels so don't put EW or Guns on them.
Armor tank on the new crazy indies are okay though!
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Prometheus Wrong
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Posted - 2005.03.03 01:52:00 -
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Edited by: Prometheus Wrong on 03/03/2005 01:52:02
 Originally by: Imhotep Khem
Dude, that turret slot is for decoration. You weren't actually using that were you?
n00b, I can not tell you how many stupid inty pilots I've popped in an Iteron Mk. V.
as to afk mining: I am skeptical that this was ever a huge detriment to game play, and frankly, nobody is going to leave their 80m isk ship sitting in a non-.5+ belt, and as the cost of lows continues to rise, I'd ENCORAGE afk mining... 
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Kayinan Malrean
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Posted - 2005.03.03 02:31:00 -
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Originally by: Prometheus Wrong
n00b, I can not tell you how many stupid inty pilots I've popped in an Iteron Mk. V.
Well, d00d, apparently T2 indies weren't made to be combat vessels. Instead, they are better at right about everything compared to T1 ones. Fair tradeoff.
9 Giant Secure cans in an Impel, mmm...
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Shreven Bulks
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Posted - 2005.03.03 03:04:00 -
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Edited by: Shreven Bulks on 03/03/2005 03:07:56
Originally by: Kayinan Malrean
Originally by: Prometheus Wrong
n00b, I can not tell you how many stupid inty pilots I've popped in an Iteron Mk. V.
Well, d00d, apparently T2 indies weren't made to be combat vessels. Instead, they are better at right about everything compared to T1 ones. Fair tradeoff.
9 Giant Secure cans in an Impel, mmm...
Congradulations, you get second prize in ignorant replies.
Chimp, look at the stats for the DS transports. They are all SLOWER than their T1 varients. They ALL have a lower capacity potential than the Mk. V, save the Impel, which is imbalanced as ****, but there is a good post on that already. What, pretell, genius boy, do they do better aside from take hits?
The durability of these ships would make all kinds of sense *IF* they could shoot back at harrassing frigs. It's a DEEP SPACE TRANSPORT, for the love of god! Who needs a gun more than a lone industrial ship running to and from a belt!? WTF!? BR Transports have them!? WHAT!? WHY!?!?
Put a turret hardpoint on these things. ONE GUN does not an uber-tanked deathdealer make.
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Selim
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Posted - 2005.03.03 03:52:00 -
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You use them while escorted so the escort can kill the enemy before your indy pops. A regular indy pops in a few seconds.
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Skelator
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Posted - 2005.03.03 04:19:00 -
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Originally by: Selim
You use them while escorted so the escort can kill the enemy before your indy pops. A regular indy pops in a few seconds.
Thank You for backing my statement Selim..
What part of ESCORT YOUR INDIES dont you people understand?
WWII convoys were Escorted by at a minimum 1 or 2 ships
They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |
Imhotep Khem
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Posted - 2005.03.03 04:22:00 -
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The Mammoth is one of the best EW platoforms in game
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Naal Morno
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Posted - 2005.03.03 04:31:00 -
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Soem of them do have hard points/turret points...
For these wihthout, a hint....cloak? SB?
Your Heavy Neutron Blaster II perfectly strikes Serpentis Chief Sentinel, wrecking for 660.4 damage.
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Shreven Bulks
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Posted - 2005.03.03 05:20:00 -
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Originally by: Skelator
Originally by: Selim
You use them while escorted so the escort can kill the enemy before your indy pops. A regular indy pops in a few seconds.
Thank You for backing my statement Selim..
What part of ESCORT YOUR INDIES dont you people understand?
WWII convoys were Escorted by at a minimum 1 or 2 ships
/me knocks your two heads together.
If I had a penny for everytime someone made some obscenely asinine reference to real life scenarios that don't EVEN mesh with the point they're trying to prove...oh who the hell am I kidding: like more than 2% of people even finish reading a post, let alone think before they reply in these forums. 
The majority of mining ops go without escort because pealing the manpower off to have someone follow an indy to and from the station is EVEN MORE BORING than mining. The ONLY people who could POSSIBLY have reason to object to putting a turret point on a Deep Space Transport: a ship that has EVERY REASON IN THE WORLD to feckin' have one -- more so than regular T1 indies -- are peeps out for easy indy ganks. Peeps who don't want to have to bring a CRUISER instead: oh no, god forbid those were to get used... 
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Skelator
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Posted - 2005.03.03 05:42:00 -
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Originally by: Shreven Bulks
Originally by: Skelator
Originally by: Selim
You use them while escorted so the escort can kill the enemy before your indy pops. A regular indy pops in a few seconds.
Thank You for backing my statement Selim..
What part of ESCORT YOUR INDIES dont you people understand?
WWII convoys were Escorted by at a minimum 1 or 2 ships
/me knocks your two heads together.
If I had a penny for everytime someone made some obscenely asinine reference to real life scenarios that don't EVEN mesh with the point they're trying to prove...oh who the hell am I kidding: like more than 2% of people even finish reading a post, let alone think before they reply in these forums.
The majority of mining ops go without escort because pealing the manpower off to have someone follow an indy to and from the station is EVEN MORE BORING than mining. The ONLY people who could POSSIBLY have reason to object to putting a turret point on a Deep Space Transport: a ship that has EVERY REASON IN THE WORLD to feckin' have one -- more so than regular T1 indies -- are peeps out for easy indy ganks. Peeps who don't want to have to bring a CRUISER instead: oh no, god forbid those were to get used...
Pray tell me WTF is so asinine about Sound Proven Tactics?
Like I said you get bored you wanna let your indy fly alone in 0.0 with a full load of zy or mega or even the ore these come from
Your the one thats asiine We Escoort our haulers no matter how boring it is... its still a Sound Tactic
They have us Surrounded again.. the Poor Bastards |
Tennotsukai
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Posted - 2005.03.03 06:03:00 -
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Edited by: Tennotsukai on 03/03/2005 06:03:23
Originally by: Kayinan Malrean
9 Giant Secure cans in an Impel, mmm...
/me gets down on his knees and prays "Dear Lord, please send to a gate that i may be camping, an Impel with 8 or 9 expanders fitted. as even with its high resists.. it won't be going any where.. as with 8 fitted, it will be doing 0 m/s and with 9 fitted.. it will be doing -10 m/s. So as you can see, those resists will mean nothing when its gets some serious poundage from myself and others who will be at the camp."
(yes, before someone mentions that he was talking about using secure cans in his cargo bay.. and not expanders.. its 6am in the morning, i haven't slept i can't be bothered to do the math about the volume that 9 giants will take up.. and in the past all i have seen is people talking about fitted x amount of expanders to these ships.. rather then thinking... its a blockade runner.. its not ment to carry huge amounts of stuff.. its ment to be able to get through gate camps and such.. by increasing its tank and fitting warpcore stabs *shudders* now looks whats happend you made swear and say the W word  )
"scotty, i need more power to warp out."
"i canna give yer any more captain, the dilithium crystal was nerfed this morning.. yer just gonna have ta face it, we've been ganked." |
Shreven Bulks
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Posted - 2005.03.03 06:06:00 -
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Nobody running zyd to empire wouldn't be better off simply scouting a jump or two ahead with a covert ops frig.
I'm not saying escorting an indy doesn't work: I'm saying that it makes no sense to go from 1 turret to NO turrets when the majority of indies go unescorted. New additions to the ship line-up should address problems and practical realities. SHOULD all indies be escorted: YEAH, SURE...but it's not going to happen most of the time. Why can't these ships defend themselves? What's the reeeeeeeealy good reason to not give them a gun? What sense does it make that they don't have one when BR Transports DO?
A blockade runner is RUNNING...he's not fighting. A DS transport is going from station to station, or belt to station...think of them as lone merchant ships out in the void, traveling the spacelanes....The DS transports do NOT address the practical realities nor meet the desires of their would-be users as well as they SHOULD. Ask any mining op com, or full-time hauler: they'd love to be able to shoot back!
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Cracken
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Posted - 2005.03.03 07:32:00 -
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Edited by: *****en on 03/03/2005 07:32:28
do you wwant some cheese with your whine.
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Alicomb
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Posted - 2005.03.03 08:33:00 -
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Originally by: *****en
Edited by: *****en on 03/03/2005 07:32:28
do you wwant some cheese with your whine.
That old line when you have nothing intellegent to say never gets old eh?
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