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Mystic Sphinx
Legions of Pretoria
Corrosive.
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:19:00 -
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Hi
Like many, i multi screen on eve, i have 4 accounts, one is an ice miner for my high sec pos. Now. Everyday for over 12 hours whilst i work, this is here
Blatent Macro Miner
I have reported this 5 times
Again and again he is back in the belt....
I cannot even begin to understand the amount of ISK this man makes doing this
Why has nothing been done?
8 macks, 3 orcas, now, tell me?
Macro much? |
Jim Era
3802
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:19:00 -
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wat
must be the alts of somebody important. |
RaTTuS
BIG
Everywhere - Everything
213
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:20:00 -
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they follow the money
http://eveboard.com/ub/419190933-134.png
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Renegade 41
Gigaverse
The Imperial Senate
1
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:22:00 -
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this sounds like a case for James315  |
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
2827
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:22:00 -
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I'll be honest, from what I've seen it takes a long time for reported botters to get kicked out, if it ever happens.
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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1089
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:23:00 -
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I've seen bigger alt account ice mining fleets.
Its not hard to multitask macks with their cargo bay size. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham
Industrial Technonauts
146
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:25:00 -
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space choo choo love train
War is when the young and stupid are tricked by the old and bitter into killing each other.
Niko Bellic |
Mystic Sphinx
Legions of Pretoria
Corrosive.
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:25:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:I've seen bigger alt account ice mining fleets.
Its not hard to multitask macks with their cargo bay size.
The accounts
8 macks
3 orcas
11 accounts
110 a month
mining from around d/t to d/t
this is not a person. This is a bot program |
Mystic Sphinx
Legions of Pretoria
Corrosive.
2
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:26:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:space choo choo love train
aye dun get me wrong, looks cool but...?
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Pak Narhoo
Knights of Kador
702
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:31:00 -
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And all so nice and tidy close together. 
Hi, I'm CCP Arrow, I screwed up the.. ummm... |
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Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1089
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:33:00 -
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Mystic Sphinx wrote:
mining from around d/t to d/t
Is this the whole week as well?
Could be bot... could be some invalid who mines while watching TV all day.
You're on enough to tell how long this guy mines. are you a bot? |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
Project Wildfire
427
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:36:00 -
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How do you know it's a bot?
I remember CCP saying not too long ago that is is okay to use a macro providing that you are at the computer pushing the button.
There was a guy roaming around with 8 drakes and whatever he did on one char happened on all the others. So how is this any different?
Edit: if he's doing it 23 hours a day then yes, this probably is a bot 
They see me trolling, they hating... |
Mystic Sphinx
Legions of Pretoria
Corrosive.
2
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:38:00 -
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Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:Mystic Sphinx wrote:
mining from around d/t to d/t
Is this the whole week as well? Could be bot... could be some invalid who mines while watching TV all day. You're on enough to tell how long this guy mines. are you a bot?
I work from home, i log into my works server @ around 9am eve time after ive done the school run, i log my ice miner in and i set him mining. He is always up on the 3/4 th screen. This guy warps in normally just after d/t and when i got to bed @ 11:30 eve time. He is still there, this morning, he was still there when i logged in @ 9:15am.
I shudder to think the kind of ISK this player is making from what he is doing
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Mystic Sphinx
Legions of Pretoria
Corrosive.
2
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:39:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:How do you know it's a bot? I remember CCP saying not too long ago that is is okay to use a macro providing that you are at the computer pushing the button. There was a guy roaming around with 8 drakes and whatever he did on one char happened on all the others. So how is this any different? Edit: if he's doing it 23 hours a day then yes, this probably is a bot
Really? Well, i think ill buy ten accounts, use all 7 screens in my office and do this and when i get banned
can i come to u to get unbanned? |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
Project Wildfire
427
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:41:00 -
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Mystic Sphinx wrote:
can i come to u to get unbanned?
Do i have the CCP tag next to my name?
They see me trolling, they hating... |
Jim Era
3803
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:44:00 -
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you can use ISboxer I have seen confirmation in other threads by ccp peoples to control multiple clients, as long as you are the one inputting the commands dewg |
Roll Sizzle Beef
Space Mutiny
1090
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:46:00 -
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Mystic Sphinx wrote:Really? Well, i think ill buy ten accounts, use all 7 screens in my office and do this and when i get banned
can i come to u to get unbanned?
As long as your at the wheel, you can use apps that mirror your actions to other clients. You're giving direct input. Ice mining is the easiest use this as its about 40 minutes between actions. Which you do with just one client.
It sucks yes. Yet if they really wanted to fix this, They would have made ice blocks that popped ages ago which would have required more micro management. |
Ensign X
307
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:49:00 -
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It's people like the OP that can't tell the difference between a bot and a program like ISBoxer that makes the petition system almost useless. They just keep spamming the petitions over and over with no regard for the people who have to actually answer their crap. |
Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
Project Wildfire
427
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Posted - 2012.09.27 14:55:00 -
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Ensign X wrote:It's people like the OP that can't tell the difference between a bot and a program like ISBoxer that makes the petition system almost useless. They just keep spamming the petitions over and over with no regard for the people who have to actually answer their crap.
On the other hand they could have just contacted him and informed him about ISBoxer use...
They see me trolling, they hating... |
Mystic Sphinx
Legions of Pretoria
Corrosive.
2
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Posted - 2012.09.27 15:11:00 -
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Ensign X wrote:It's people like the OP that can't tell the difference between a bot and a program like ISBoxer that makes the petition system almost useless. They just keep spamming the petitions over and over with no regard for the people who have to actually answer their crap.
Yes because do sit infront of there pcs ICE MINING for 23 hours straight right?
right>?
right?
sumetimes the people who post on this forum are so stupid, its cringeworthy |
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Rengerel en Distel
Amarr Science and Industry
426
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Posted - 2012.09.27 15:17:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:Ensign X wrote:It's people like the OP that can't tell the difference between a bot and a program like ISBoxer that makes the petition system almost useless. They just keep spamming the petitions over and over with no regard for the people who have to actually answer their crap. On the other hand they could have just contacted him and informed him about ISBoxer use...
Or the OP could have taken the first response from CCP that said they're looking into it, and realize her job was done.
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Colonel Xaven
Decadence.
RAZOR Alliance
158
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Posted - 2012.09.27 15:25:00 -
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I would laugh my arse off if someone reports OP for being a botter or something (many accounts, much online time etc.).
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Bart Starr
Aggressive Structural Steel Expediting Services
59
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Posted - 2012.09.27 16:03:00 -
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At one time, you could bring a SB Typhoon or two and clean up the whole problem, and make a nice profit besides.
Because miners whined about it, CCP, in its infinite wisdom, removed the only 'in-game' means to deal with the botting problem.
So now, you petition and wait in line and watch as commodity prices crash through the floor.
My guess is that Exhumer gankers also did the vast majority of accurate bot-reporting, but since they've been nerfed out of the equation...*shrug* let the bots multiply, I guess.
Only difference between a bot and a miner is about one mouse-click an hour anyway. Brilliant design.
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Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
3863
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Posted - 2012.09.27 16:05:00 -
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Mystic Sphinx wrote:Roll Sizzle Beef wrote:I've seen bigger alt account ice mining fleets.
Its not hard to multitask macks with their cargo bay size. The accounts 8 macks 3 orcas 11 accounts 110 a month mining from around d/t to d/t this is not a person. This is a bot program
Are you there from the start of dt to the next dt to monitor his every move? If so...you're a bot.
OMG PEOPLE PLAY FOR LONG HOURS! BOTS!! BOTS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
3863
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Posted - 2012.09.27 16:06:00 -
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Bart Starr wrote:At one time, you could bring a SB Typhoon or two and clean up the whole problem, and make a nice profit besides.
Because miners whined about it, CCP, in its infinite wisdom, removed the only 'in-game' means to deal with the botting problem.
So now, you petition and wait in line and watch as commodity prices crash through the floor.
My guess is that Exhumer gankers also did the vast majority of accurate bot-reporting, but since they've been nerfed out of the equation...*shrug* let the bots multiply, I guess.
Only difference between a bot and a miner is about one mouse-click an hour anyway. Brilliant design.
How many alts do you have Herr Wilkus? Seriously still whining about miners...lol |
Ensign X
307
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Posted - 2012.09.27 16:11:00 -
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Mystic Sphinx wrote:Yes because do sit infront of there pcs ICE MINING for 23 hours straight right?
How do you know this? The truth is, you don't. You're either assuming they're farming ice 23 hours straight which is really dumb of you, or you're also at your keyboard for 23 hours straight which makes one wonder, are you also "a bot"? |
Mathrin
Synthetic Solution
Synthetic Systems
0
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Posted - 2012.09.27 16:12:00 -
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Bart Starr wrote:At one time, you could bring a SB Typhoon or two and clean up the whole problem, and make a nice profit besides.
Because miners whined about it, CCP, in its infinite wisdom, removed the only 'in-game' means to deal with the botting problem.
So now, you petition and wait in line and watch as commodity prices crash through the floor.
My guess is that Exhumer gankers also did the vast majority of accurate bot-reporting, but since they've been nerfed out of the equation...*shrug* let the bots multiply, I guess.
Only difference between a bot and a miner is about one mouse-click an hour anyway. Brilliant design.
Why not get some buddies and gank them for fun instead of profit? |
Yokai Mitsuhide
Exiled Mining
3864
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Posted - 2012.09.27 16:17:00 -
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Mathrin wrote:Bart Starr wrote:At one time, you could bring a SB Typhoon or two and clean up the whole problem, and make a nice profit besides.
Because miners whined about it, CCP, in its infinite wisdom, removed the only 'in-game' means to deal with the botting problem.
So now, you petition and wait in line and watch as commodity prices crash through the floor.
My guess is that Exhumer gankers also did the vast majority of accurate bot-reporting, but since they've been nerfed out of the equation...*shrug* let the bots multiply, I guess.
Only difference between a bot and a miner is about one mouse-click an hour anyway. Brilliant design.
Why not get some buddies and gank them for fun instead of profit?
Because it's not as easy as it was before. Don't get them started on that though...they will cry about it for a few hundred pages. |
Arec Bardwin
755
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Posted - 2012.09.27 18:04:00 -
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Mystic Sphinx wrote:This guy warps in normally just after d/t and when i got to bed @ 11:30 eve time. He is still there, this morning, he was still there when i logged in @ 9:15am.
So what you're saying is that this person goes to bed after you, and in the morning he wakes up before you and starts his daily mining routine? |
Adalun Dey
Royal Amarr Institute
Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2012.09.27 18:30:00 -
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Mystic Sphinx wrote:Hi Like many, i multi screen on eve, i have 4 accounts, one is an ice miner for my high sec pos. Now. Everyday for over 12 hours whilst i work, this is here Blatent Macro MinerI have reported this 5 times Again and again he is back in the belt.... I cannot even begin to understand the amount of ISK this man makes doing this Why has nothing been done? 8 macks, 3 orcas, now, tell me? Macro much?
Let's hope CCP acknowledges this problem for what it truly is. Too long has this issue been ignored time and again (5 times apparently). Without customized ship skins it's near impossible for an artistically minded person to express him/herself in EVE. This person is clearly doing his utmost, despite the limited resources at his disposal.
Maybe we can dedicate a statue to him?
" Take my love, take my land, take me where I can not stand,
I don't care, I'm still free. You can't take the sky from me. "
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Corina Jarr
Spazzoid Enterprises
Purpose Built
1316
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Posted - 2012.09.27 18:31:00 -
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The only thing that strikes me as odd about that pic is the super neatness. So well lined up... |
Jason Xado
Xado Industries
28
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Posted - 2012.09.30 18:23:00 -
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Please do not confuse multiboxing with botting. |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy
Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2012.09.30 18:24:00 -
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Mystic Sphinx wrote:Hi Like many, i multi screen on eve, i have 4 accounts, one is an ice miner for my high sec pos. Now. Everyday for over 12 hours whilst i work, this is here Blatent Macro MinerI have reported this 5 times Again and again he is back in the belt.... I cannot even begin to understand the amount of ISK this man makes doing this Why has nothing been done? 8 macks, 3 orcas, now, tell me? Macro much?
CCP doesn't care about macro'ers... Time has proven this, despite the publicity stunt of "Inferno Fury" or whatever the hell it was called... |
Caviar Liberta
Moira.
Villore Accords
18
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Posted - 2012.09.30 18:55:00 -
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Bart Starr wrote:
So now, you petition and wait in line and watch as commodity prices crash through the floor.
Prices crash when production out races demand. Also there is a point where the prices are such where the goods will bought up to create an artificial floor and the price crash is reversed. |
lanyaie
540
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Posted - 2012.09.30 18:57:00 -
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Something will be done....
SoonGäó
Hay |
T'Laar Bok
53
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:32:00 -
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I've often in the past mined ice with up to 8 Macks and 2 Orcs. Sometimes for up to 16hrs.*
That doesn't make me a macro and you should not assume this person is.
*I'm disabled and have nothing else to do when I can only move my left hand.
Amphetimines are your friend.
http://eveboard.com/pilot/T'Laar_Bok |
Jax Bederen
Dark Horse RM
197
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:54:00 -
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I don't mine myself, but is such a perfectly deployed pattern common? |
Evei Shard
120
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:59:00 -
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Jax Bederen wrote:I don't mine myself, but is such a perfectly deployed pattern common?
Keep At Range: 500m
Profit favors the prepared |
Touval Lysander
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
178
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Posted - 2012.09.30 23:19:00 -
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Bart Starr wrote:
Only difference between a bot and a miner is about one mouse-click an hour anyway. Brilliant design.
Only difference between a miner and a ganker is about one mouse-click every 15 minutes anyway. Brilliant design.
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Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy
Caldari State
147
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Posted - 2012.09.30 23:37:00 -
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Jax Bederen wrote:I don't mine myself, but is such a perfectly deployed pattern common?
The one I liked was watching a Hulk get popped a couple HG's ago... And the pod just sat there. And sat there. After about four minutes it left. Came back two minutes later (yes, THE POD), and sat there for about 12 minutes. Rinse, repeat. Frapped it for CCP, reported the bot. He was still there a couple days later (in a new Hulk, of course; someone must have come home from work).
CCP cares when it suits their purposes. Next topic? |
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Surfin's PlunderBunny
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
2408
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Posted - 2012.09.30 23:44:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Jax Bederen wrote:I don't mine myself, but is such a perfectly deployed pattern common? The one I liked was watching a Hulk get popped a couple HG's ago... And the pod just sat there. And sat there. After about four minutes it left. Came back two minutes later (yes, THE POD), and sat there for about 12 minutes. Rinse, repeat. Frapped it for CCP, reported the bot. He was still there a couple days later (in a new Hulk, of course; someone must have come home from work). CCP cares when it suits their purposes. Next topic?
CCP caring
"A genius throws a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that he's going to die choking in a maze of smoke and flame. A hero drinks a Molotov cocktail and soon realizes that if he does a split in midair, he can hit twice as many zombies per kick. Drunk hero wins again, wusses." ~Cracked.com |
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ISD Suvetar
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
171
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Posted - 2012.09.30 23:53:00 -
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Hi there,
Just wanted to touch base on this a little bit.
Blue Ice should always be in an Ice field, I don't know why you keep reporting it!
Ok but seriously ...
If you've reported it to the GMs, I imagine that you will have received a reply that basically says 'Thanks, we'll take a look'.
As you're not the owner of any of those accounts, you won't get any feedback; that's a basic privacy right; after all I'm pretty sure you'd be mortified if someone petitioned you and then was told 'Thanks, we banned him!'.
In fact, there are laws about that sort of thing.
If you've reported it 5 times, then I'm pretty sure that CCP have either investigated it and found that it is a valid setup (most likely) or these characters are now being actively monitored.
That, in a nutshell, is all that you'll find out. The GM and/or security team will not just remove characters from the game because you think they're botting.
If you continue raising petitions about it, ostensibly just because you believe you're right and the GMs are wrong, then you will likely end up with you getting a caution for wasting the GMs time.
That's all that can be said about it really; what happens now is between CCP and the owners of the characters involved.
Thanks and fly safe.
ISD Suvetar
Captain
Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs)
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks
Executive Outcomes
102
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Posted - 2012.10.01 02:05:00 -
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Jim Era wrote:wat
must be the alts of somebody important.
inb4 it's CCP Sreegs |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
579
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Posted - 2012.10.01 03:33:00 -
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Its not legal to macro at all, but its perfectly legal to use ISBoxer. Thats exactly what an ISBoxer mining fleet looks like.
All it does is let you send the same command to multiple screens. You can group them as well, so that with only 2 screens you can run an infinite amount of orcas + miners.
Although if they are running dt to dt then they are botting, as the human body requires sleep.
I have mined half a day many times and a couple of times ran wormhole anomalies for more than 12 hours. But all day every day is impossible.
From: Tommas De'Wins
To: Cipher Jones
Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha |
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