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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9661
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Posted - 2012.09.30 18:18:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:People without FB has simple common sense because they know how can be your personal information abused. If they had that, they'd be able to use FB just fine.
Quote:And dont think that those people dont socialize. They do..... via encrypted software and chanels, not because they are criminals, but because they appreciate their privacy. Never stepping outside your house isn't GÇ£appreciating your privacyGÇ¥ GÇö it's being an unsocial recluse.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
65
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Posted - 2012.09.30 18:19:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Zloco Crendraven wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:Zloco Crendraven wrote:And DUST reached 100k likes grats. WTF is a "grat"? Congratulations for something?!?!? Milestone user base (actual humans, not toons)? CCP Income? Congratulations for what, exactly? So u say that is better to have less likes or maybe even 0. Your reasoning is a bit odd. Well i tell you. It is way better to have 100k likes than 50k what was like 1-2 months ago. it means more ppl are interesed in it, more ppl know aobut it and some more will get to know about ti from those new 50k likes. The more likes the more it will spread, simple reasoning. And yeah 100k likes is a nice milestone in FB world. Let me guess: you're an Apple fanboi, too? 
what has iphone to do with all this good poasting lol? |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy
Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2012.09.30 18:20:00 -
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Tippia wrote:TharOkha wrote:People without FB has simple common sense because they know how can be your personal information abused. If they had that, they'd be able to use FB just fine. Quote:And dont think that those people dont socialize. They do..... via encrypted software and chanels, not because they are criminals, but because they appreciate their privacy. Never stepping outside your house isn't GÇ£appreciating your privacyGÇ¥ GÇö it's being an unsocial recluse.
Oooh, BURN!!!!
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Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy
Caldari State
146
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Posted - 2012.09.30 18:21:00 -
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Zloco Crendraven wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:Let me guess: you're an Apple fanboi, too? what has iphone to do with all this good poasting lol?
Gullibility to marketing BS and a stunning inability to look beyond the shiny. And me saying "Apple" and you saying "iphone" verified it.  |
Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
65
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Posted - 2012.09.30 18:26:00 -
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Ginger Barbarella wrote:Zloco Crendraven wrote:Ginger Barbarella wrote:Let me guess: you're an Apple fanboi, too? what has iphone to do with all this good poasting lol? Gullibility to marketing BS and a stunning inability to look beyond the shiny. And me saying "Apple" and you saying "iphone" verified it.
Well hearing u say that marketing is a BS tells me a lot how ignorant u are. And Apple was never known for its marketing skillz. U heared the last one "Samsung has everything we got but its cheaper". If u mentioned Cola than maybe u d have a point. Those guys built an empire on marketing even tough on blind tests ppl voted for other drinks to be lot better.
And for your answer, nah never had an apple product. I dont even know what else they have appart iphone and ipad? Poor marketing is poor marketing.
And again what "Gullibility to marketing BS and a stunning inability to look beyond the shiny" has to do with DUST getting 100k likes? |
TharOkha
0asis Group
77
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Posted - 2012.09.30 18:37:00 -
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Tippia wrote:TharOkha wrote:People without FB has simple common sense because they know how can be your personal information abused. If they had that, they'd be able to use FB just fine..
That is correct, but we all know that FB is constantly introducting "features" that you cannot control your privacy in full scale. Not mentioning about deleting your account completely.
Quote:Never stepping outside your house isn't GÇ£appreciating your privacyGÇ¥ GÇö it's being an unsocial recluse
So you are saying that if someone who dont use FB is automaticaly asocial? (just question... are you from US?)
There is a difference between:
1. stepping out from your house
and
2. stepping out from your house with your ID information written on your shirt, pin code written on your Bank card and all your hobbies, faminly members and pets displayed on your cap. 
GÇ£If reality can destroy the dream, why shouldn't the dream destroy reality?GÇ¥ |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9661
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Posted - 2012.09.30 18:42:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:That is correct, but we all know that FB is constantly introducting "features" that you cannot control your privacy in full scale. Not mentioning about deleting your account completely. GǪand the common-sense approach is to not include any private stuff in what they can access, so no matter what features they implement, they get squat.
Quote:So you are saying that if someone who dont use FB is automaticaly asocial? No. I'm saying that if the only GÇ£socialisingGÇ¥ you do is through encrypted software and channels, then you need to get over your phobia of stepping outside and meeting people. A lot of socialising is about giving up privacy and engaging openly with the world around you.
Being secretive has its time and place, but if you're doing it all the time, you're suffering from something. This is no different in the digital age.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
65
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Posted - 2012.09.30 19:18:00 -
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TharOkha wrote:Tippia wrote:TharOkha wrote:People without FB has simple common sense because they know how can be your personal information abused. If they had that, they'd be able to use FB just fine.. That is correct, but we all know that FB is constantly introducting "features" that you cannot control your privacy in full scale. Not mentioning about deleting your account completely. Quote:Never stepping outside your house isn't GÇ£appreciating your privacyGÇ¥ GÇö it's being an unsocial recluse So you are saying that if someone who dont use FB is automaticaly asocial? (just question... are you from US?) There is a difference between: 1. stepping out from your house and 2. stepping out from your house with your ID information written on your shirt, pin code written on your Bank card and all your hobbies, faminly members and pets displayed on your cap.
Mate if someone wants to know some info about u they ll get to know it even if u r not using FB. But again i say, if ppl can live without FB they are better without. But the reason is not that u are giving up your privacy. The reason is that your brain cells dry up from all the moronic content it offers. But that thingy is a big part of my job and i learned to use it in the right way, flow of news and information and connecting with my friends abroad. |
Zloco Crendraven
BALKAN EXPRESS
90
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:07:00 -
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And DUST surpassed EVE by amount of Likes on FB. DUST has some 15% more Likes than EVE and some 70% more than PS2. It is not even out yet, so i d say GJ till now. |
Remiel Pollard
Devlin Security
Devlin Alliance
126
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:10:00 -
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Unsuccessful At Everything wrote:Perhaps soon CCP will institute some kind of Likes -> Aurum mechanic so we can all buy barbie clothes and play dress up while we sit alone in our captains quarters.
That was the best comment ever. On the stupidest thread ever.
You don't scare me. I've been to Jita. |
MasterEnt
The Scope
Gallente Federation
111
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:32:00 -
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Ohhhhh, that means.... something.... |
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
Quantum Cafe
110
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Posted - 2012.11.21 15:57:00 -
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Meryl SinGarda wrote:BoBoZoBo wrote:Ohh Holy moly shoot me. Now pepie think Likes are an indication of intent and sales somehow. Actually, if you do some reading around the Internet, which you could do without FB, might I add, you'd see that people actually care about FB likes. They care a lot. So just because a handful of EVE players are terrified of FB and live behind 37 proxies and 128 firewalls and think the government is trying to steal their idenity, doesn't mean everyone is as tin-foil hat-loving as you. Welcome to 2012. And to the derper calling likes fake, your hat has a few holes in it. No company in the right mind would spend the amount of money you would need in order to garner that many likes. People like videogames, deal with it.
"Read around the internet..." the bastion of facts. It is clear you are assuming a lot of things here, so let me help you out.
I've been working in advertising and business development for over 20 years and have been involved in social media since before it was social media. I can tell you without doubt, just becuse a client thinks that they wan't 10,000 likes, they can't exactly tell you exactly why or what it means for thier bottom line. All they know is its something new and shiney and they want to be a part of it and try it out. They think of a false ROI, based on the assumption is it's "free" (though its not) and that eveyone else (on the internet) is concerned about it for some reason. That is the extent of their interest in it. They have NO IDEA how it translates directly into sales numbers, still don't... mostly because it DOES NOT.
With that being said, FB like are not irrelevant at all, at the very least they offer an avenue for those who liked you to be exposed to the information and promotions you are providing, but it is a FAR cry from a direct conversion to sales or predictive analysis of any kind. The only time you see an increase in sales from social media is when you offer content and discounts relevant to the customer, but that is based on good promotions, not likes in and of themselves, it could just as well be a printed campaign or newsletter.
Just think of how many facebook pages or posts you have liked. Now how many of them are you already patronizing as a customer (aka no change). Now how many do you not patronize, but give still don't money to just because you like it (aka no change). It is easy to hit a like button on a website for something you think is a good idea or have already experienced. That is how most likes are achieved. It's much harder to actually DO something in real ife.
As to "fake likes..." Likes are also acheived by promising something in return. As in, "LIKE us to be entered for a chance to win $1,000,000." WAAAAA - You mean, for a chance to win a million bucks all I need to is hit this little interutube button!?! People who hit the like in that case are, in essence, being bought (aka fake, with little cost). It does not necessarily mean they are going to run out and buy your product or become a customer. They just want a million bucks. Though, it does give you a window to promote things to them (until they unlike you) it guarantees nothing. And business that try to predict revenue via facebook likes inevitably either quickly see the folly or go out of business for looking a the wrong numbers.
As such, FB likes ARE NOT a predictive indicator of how something will do in the marketplace. PERIOD
Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |
Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
1443
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Posted - 2012.11.21 16:02:00 -
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BoBoZoBo wrote:Ohh Holy moly shoot me.
Now pepie think Likes are an indication of intent and sales somehow.
Well seeing as how Facebook makes all of its money on that concept.....yeah
The Drake is a Lie |
Mag's
the united
Negative Ten.
10720
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Posted - 2012.11.21 16:04:00 -
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Facebook should DIAF tbh. It's a horrid place.
CCP Zulu.....
Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience. |
Ginger Barbarella
State War Academy
Caldari State
249
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Posted - 2012.11.21 16:12:00 -
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Zloco Crendraven wrote:... Post about Facebook...
I see your first mistake... |
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
Quantum Cafe
110
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Posted - 2012.11.21 16:38:00 -
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Xercodo wrote:BoBoZoBo wrote:Ohh Holy moly shoot me.
Now pepie think Likes are an indication of intent and sales somehow. Well seeing as how Facebook makes all of its money on that concept.....yeah
Nope - It makes it's money on advertising and selling aggregated data to people like me and governments. The first 5 years it was about connecting people to people, and using those connections to sell ads and the info from its users. JUST NOW it is getting into P2B and B2B, but that model has not taken off yet.
Primary Test Subject GÇó SmackTalker Elite |
Xercodo
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
1444
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Posted - 2012.11.21 16:55:00 -
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BoBoZoBo wrote:Xercodo wrote:BoBoZoBo wrote:Ohh Holy moly shoot me.
Now pepie think Likes are an indication of intent and sales somehow. Well seeing as how Facebook makes all of its money on that concept.....yeah Nope - It makes it's money on advertising and selling aggregated data to people like me and governments. The first 5 years it was about connecting people to people, and using those connections to sell ads and the info from its users. JUST NOW it is getting into P2B and B2B, but that model has not taken off yet.
Yeah but isn't most of that data in the forms of "How many people liked this and also liked this" and aren't the ads tuned based on things you "Like"?
Can you clarify the acronyms for me?
The Drake is a Lie |
Yusef Yeasef Yosef
Imperial Academy
Amarr Empire
3
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Posted - 2012.11.21 17:49:00 -
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Tippia wrote:TharOkha wrote:That is correct, but we all know that FB is constantly introducting "features" that you cannot control your privacy in full scale. Not mentioning about deleting your account completely. GǪand the common-sense approach is to not include any private stuff in what they can access, so no matter what features they implement, they get squat. Quote:So you are saying that if someone who dont use FB is automaticaly asocial? No. I'm saying that if the only GǣsocialisingGǥ you do is through encrypted software and channels, then you need to get over your phobia of stepping outside and meeting people. A lot of socialising is about giving up privacy and engaging openly with the world around you. Being secretive has its time and place, but if you're doing it all the time, you're suffering from something. This is no different in the digital age.
Exaggerating the point to try and make your point....
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Cartheron Crust
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
38
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Posted - 2012.11.21 18:05:00 -
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Yusef Yeasef Yosef wrote:Tippia wrote:TharOkha wrote:That is correct, but we all know that FB is constantly introducting "features" that you cannot control your privacy in full scale. Not mentioning about deleting your account completely. GǪand the common-sense approach is to not include any private stuff in what they can access, so no matter what features they implement, they get squat. Quote:So you are saying that if someone who dont use FB is automaticaly asocial? No. I'm saying that if the only GǣsocialisingGǥ you do is through encrypted software and channels, then you need to get over your phobia of stepping outside and meeting people. A lot of socialising is about giving up privacy and engaging openly with the world around you. Being secretive has its time and place, but if you're doing it all the time, you're suffering from something. This is no different in the digital age. Exaggerating the point to try and make your point....
You must be new to Tippia's posting style.
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