No I'm not stupid, I'm not giving you one isk. I'm not giving you any of my things. The only thing I'll be giving you "initially" are verbs, nouns, adjectives and an API key. If that's not enough then please find someone else to scam.

TYVM for your time,

KP.

...tried to post this in the Alliance Disc. forums, but it wouldn'tlet me for some reason, so if it's moved I understand.

Are there any established, new player friendly Alliances that don't require FBI/CIA type background checks and application processes?

You simply cannot have established alliances that are newbie friendly without having thorough security protocols. If you're established, you're worth targeting and newbie characters are cheap, disposable covers.

TEST and GSF can get away with being newbie friendly because they source their newbies from out of game communities, recruiting people who already have established identities. Recruiting newbies from in game channels without thorough checks is just asking to be riddled with spies.

That said, you may want to consider lowsec FW or pirate corps. They have much less at stake and tend to be more welcoming to strangers than established 0.0 alliances. I would highly recommend Rifterlings (hi Petrus!) or Black Rebel Rifter Club. Rifterlings has awesome newbie resources, a healthy number of vets and a very active director corps. You'll be learning in good hands with them.

...tried to post this in the Alliance Disc. forums, but it wouldn'tlet me for some reason, so if it's moved I understand.

Are there any established, new player friendly Alliances that don't require FBI/CIA type background checks and application processes?

E-UNI seems fine and all but....I have to get in line, then sit online and wait for my name to be called for an interview?? Dude I'm a truck driver, I barely get a lot of gaming time as is, I wont be spending it sitting in a friggin queue.

I get having requirements for entry, but Jesus Christ...

I'm basically wanting to learn PvP. I'm a fast learner and very active when I have time (roughly 4-5 hours per day).

I'd like to join Goonswarm or Test, not for any sort of prestige ( OMG I WANNA B A GOONZ). No. I couldn't care less about any sort of E-Cred. Again, it's about me wanting to join someone who is established and can actually teach me the game. A small corp is just trying to inflate its numbers. They claim to be helpful, then don't teach you anything. I'd like someone established with connections and large enough to have a hefty number of active players to run with so I learn faster. Again a small corp just makes it to difficult to get into fleet activities as they barely have enough players as is.

So If you are a corp in a large alliance that helps new players and in turn gives new players a place where they can give back and contribute, send me a mail please. No I'm not stupid, I'm not giving you one isk. I'm not giving you any of my things. The only thing I'll be giving you "initially" are verbs, nouns, adjectives and an API key. If that's not enough then please find someone else to scam.

TYVM for your time,

KP.

Alliance aren't meant to be "player friendly"... Corps are. Alliances are where people with too much time on their hands and egos to match try to corral a metric crap-ton of players to do their bidding.

cf: GoonieSwarm, NC, Pandemic, etc...

You simply cannot have established alliances that are newbie friendly without having thorough security protocols. If you're established, you're worth targeting and newbie characters are cheap, disposable covers.

TEST and GSF can get away with being newbie friendly because they source their newbies from out of game communities, recruiting people who already have established identities. Recruiting newbies from in game channels without thorough checks is just asking to be riddled with spies.

That said, you may want to consider lowsec FW or pirate corps. They have much less at stake and tend to be more welcoming to strangers than established 0.0 alliances. I would highly recommend Rifterlings (hi Petrus!) or Black Rebel Rifter Club. Rifterlings has awesome newbie resources, a healthy number of vets and a very active director corps. You'll be learning in good hands with them.

try red vs blue

You simply cannot have established alliances that are newbie friendly without having thorough security protocols. If you're established, you're worth targeting and newbie characters are cheap, disposable covers.

TEST and GSF can get away with being newbie friendly because they source their newbies from out of game communities, recruiting people who already have established identities. Recruiting newbies from in game channels without thorough checks is just asking to be riddled with spies.

That said, you may want to consider lowsec FW or pirate corps. They have much less at stake and tend to be more welcoming to strangers than established 0.0 alliances. I would highly recommend Rifterlings (hi Petrus!) or Black Rebel Rifter Club. Rifterlings has awesome newbie resources, a healthy number of vets and a very active director corps. You'll be learning in good hands with them.

I applied there a few days ago. My app was rejected within 15 minutes. No idea why.I guess even THEY require some sort of complicated application process. If so then I'm not interested. I just want to play dude. I don't friggin feel like registering at some forum, waiting 1 week for a response waiting 2-3 months for an interview, etc.

I just. Want. To play.

Go out to low sec. With a rifter. Engage any halfway viable targets, even against the odds (e.g against destroyers and cruisers or against 2:1 odds, but not against drake blobs - you want to appear brave not stupid). Don't just go after the easy targets like the 2 day old mining in their navitas, go after the -10 in the thrasher, even if you will probably lose. Be polite. Give a GF if you lose. Discuss fittings and strategy with the locals. Ignore smack talk.

Good PVP corps are always looking for pilots who have a pair and don't need their arse wiped.

The worse that can happen is you'll have fun and learn a lot.

I lolled at this OP, we're like minded.

First corp I joined (under another char) was by invite after I posted in recruit channel that YOU ARE NOT EVEN GETTING MY API in caps.

Anyone can spai on any corp/alliance with ease and no amount of vetting is gonna stop that. Only stupid spais get caught and only stupid recruiters think they can actually stop it with an API background/check.

I looked at a good 0.0 corp the other day, they had all I need etc. etc. UNTIL I saw the dictatorial and moronic methods of recruitment.

We will ONLY accept your app with the template provided.
We will ONLY consider your application if this, if that.......

Needless to say, I didnt bother. One pilot less for them. Like you, I just wanna play.

PS: Reminds me of a WH corp with a 15 question Q and A I trolled some time back. Obvious right wing capitalist crank CEO that obviously wanted you to give him all all your money if he messed up.

I answered all 15 q's citing Karl Mark, Mein Kampff and a good dose of socialistic claptrap. I had a good laugh when it was "rejected" out of hand.

Ya gotta love it.

Love the game CCP...I really do but if this continues I'll just have to find something else to play. I'll be damned if I'm spending all f this time skilling up just to play by myself, while the big wars and engagements (the fun stuff) are reserved for these E-**** Alliances and the little cliques and circles within them.Either that or hey, New folks msg me and let's start our own s**t...

I would take you up on that offer in a new york minute, except I see that you run in Caldari space and I'm all about the Gallente, I guess that makes us space enemies or something.

I applied there a few days ago. My app was rejected within 15 minutes. No idea why.I guess even THEY require some sort of complicated application process. If so then I'm not interested. I just want to play dude. I don't friggin feel like registering at some forum, waiting 1 week for a response waiting 2-3 months for an interview, etc.

I just. Want. To play.

Hi,
Did you apply to red or blue ? if rejected you should have received a mail for why ( please turn charges off ) . IF it was due to you toon being under 7 days that rule as changed so feel free to reapply.

Please note , we don't teach so much as we will point you in the right direction and smile when you get yourself blown to pieces. If you do join us make sure you join the noobfleet (instructions will be in your welcome mail.).

Any questions feel free to evemail me ,



o/
Galenwade

You're all spies

I believe it was Blue. I've since deleted it but I do not recall a reason being given. I'll reapply. TY for the response.

If you don't have the rigorous security protocols that every alliance puts their new members through, then you get a few bad apples like me. I'll hold members hostage, gank mining ships, and generally cause terror and mayhem just for the lulz.