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DarkFidelity HORSE KILLERS HORSE-KILLERS 3	Posted - 2012.10.01 09:22:00 - [1] - Quote Hey guys, So after skilling into a Loki I finally set my sights on running 5/10 plexes. I am having some trouble with getting setup though because I am not sure how much of a tank I need. I've tried googling to find this information, but have never been able to find anything. Currently my Loki tanks 533 DPS from Blood Raiders. Neuting hasn't seemed to impact my fit very much yet (even when I was <20km from 8 Blood Raider Battleships) so either I am pretty lucky or the fit is working pretty well. My gun ranged is about 12km which makes Stasis towers a complete pain in the butt. If I could get some tips it would be much appreciated ("Get a Tengu" is not a good tip. I can only fly Minmatar). This is the fit I am working with at the moment. I'm considering keeping a PSA + 220mm + drones in the cargo so I can switch out for more DPS. I'm new to my area of low sec though so I am keeping the cloak till I learn the locals and such. [Loki, Cloaky Blood Plexer] Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Pithi B-Type Small Shield Booster EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Shield Boost Amplifier I 10MN Afterburner II Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe I 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 220mm Vulcan AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Covert Ops Cloaking Device II Medium Projectile Collision Accelerator I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding Loki Offensive - Covert Reconfiguration Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer Cap stable. 351 DPS. 533 Tank vs Blood Raiders. Once I do a little bit more training I'll be able to drop the CCC rig for another screen that will boost my tank to a flat 600. Thanks
Chimpy B The Philosophy Of Two 14	Posted - 2012.10.01 10:11:00 - [2] - Quote I tried a 5/10 once (guristas), the incoming dps peaked around 1700, and in a battleship (RNI) I only had time to kill one rat before I had to warp out. A small ship should have an easier time because of higher speed and lower sig radius, but there does seem to be huge jump in difficulty from 4/10 to 5/10.
Caterpil Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2012.10.01 10:42:00 - [3] - Quote I've managed to run all DED 5/10 complexes (except blood) with the following Loki fit: [Loki, DED5] Damage Control II Gyrostabilizer II Gyrostabilizer II Tracking Enhancer II Tracking Enhancer II Co-Processor II Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner Dread Guristas Large Shield Booster EM Ward Field II Thermic Dissipation Field II Shield Boost Amplifier II 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M 425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP M Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I Loki Defensive - Amplification Node Loki Electronics - Dissolution Sequencer Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst Hornet EC-300 x5 Hobgoblin x5 A few notes - My fit uses burst tank rather than active tank so it requires more attention then yours but has the ability to recover quickly if you get your transversal messed up (Obviously switch out hardeners depending on the complex). - Whatever you do, I highly recomend using the amplification node rather than adaptive shielding, in reality it helps you tank much better when moving all-out. It also makes you harder to scan down if anyone drops combat probes (Dssolution Sequencer is there for the same reason). - Take along barrage ammo and slap on a couple of tracking enhancers to hit the web towers in the last room (around 40km away) - I'm using another ship for scanning 538 DPS including drones (1.95km + 29.5km range) 725.9 DPS sustained tank vs Blood 800.8 DPS Burst Tank vs Blood
Hav0cide Shadow Proclamation. 6	Posted - 2012.10.01 14:12:00 - [4] - Quote Last per the last message, but an extra tip. As your in lowsec you have station access. Use covert ops mode when your scanning. When you find a site dock, switch to combat subsystems and go to complete the Plex. Hold mods in cargo and ur only take an extra few moments to reshape, increasing your DPS/range. Once completed, simply dock and reconfigure and off you go in covert. Works great.
Emperor Salazar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 687	Posted - 2012.10.01 16:56:00 - [5] - Quote You need a friend to help you out. I can provide logi or damage support if you'd like. Just let me know when and where.
Gritz1 Ice Fire Warriors Late Night Alliance 128	Posted - 2012.10.01 18:03:00 - [6] - Quote Emperor Salazar wrote: You need a friend to help you out. I can provide logi or damage support if you'd like. Just let me know when and where. Youre so cool.
Emperor Salazar Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore 687	Posted - 2012.10.01 18:20:00 - [7] - Quote Gritz1 wrote: Youre so cool. You're so edgy.
Scoto Timta EveMerc's 18	Posted - 2012.10.01 18:32:00 - [8] - Quote Test server is your friend. Seriously, not being rude. I did that to see if some of my ships/setups would handle particular sites. Theoretical DPS/EHP numbers are one thing. Actual incoming damage (factoring sig radius, speed tank, etc) is another.
Daniel Plain Science and Trade Institute Caldari State 377	Posted - 2012.10.01 18:36:00 - [9] - Quote Emperor Salazar wrote: Gritz1 wrote: Youre so cool. You're so edgy. you're both so casual. amidoingitrite? "I don't troll, I just give overly blunt responses that annoy people who are wrong but don't want to admit it. It's not my fault that people have sensitive feelings" -MXZF
Roime Shiva Furnace Dead On Arrival Alliance 1292	Posted - 2012.10.02 05:52:00 - [10] - Quote Hey stop theorycrafting and just fly out there to test things ffs :D Your tank should be just fine (generally speaking you don't simply tank full room aggros in plexes like in AFK missioning, control the range, speed and sig tank) but what you need to test is whether you can break the Overseer tank with that dps. Gallente - the choice of the interstellar gentleman
DarkFidelity HORSE KILLERS HORSE-KILLERS 3	Posted - 2012.10.02 10:22:00 - [11] - Quote Haha, I'm not theory crafting. I am testing my fits. It just helps when you know where the baseline should be set at. My previous fit was okay... up until I'd get to the last room. My tank could not keep up when I was webbed (My tank was 415 DPS then).

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