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isk4trade
Cogitation Mining and Industrial Trading
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Posted - 2012.10.01 16:21:00 -
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I personally think it will be very detrimental and that they will never find a common ground between immediate gratification FPS players and the Empire-building types that hope to have a really good situation going for them at the end of a 6 month or 12 month or two year plan.
I just do not see it working. I see it as a diversion and market destabilizing infulence. ...
What do YOU see ?
me
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Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
796
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Posted - 2012.10.01 16:25:00 -
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well since dust is fun, and appeals to a much bigger market then pc/eve markets I think its a very good thing... some of the dust players will probably try Eve as well, if some stick its even better. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
9674
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Posted - 2012.10.01 16:26:00 -
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GǪthat they're not going after Gǣ immediate gratification FPS playersGǥ and that there's nothing to suggest that SOE have anything to do with EVE.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan.
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Kult Altol
Republican Industries
Epsilon Fleet
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Posted - 2012.10.01 16:26:00 -
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I think your argument is wrong, I know dust will satisfy the FPS player. And dust will add another dynamic to the ever expanding eve universe.
A narrow mind is a focused mind. |
Herping yourDerp
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
796
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Posted - 2012.10.01 16:36:00 -
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i think many PC players don't realize console players in reality want a game that lasts them 12 months the problem is this gen most game have been boring after a few weeks.
I remember halo CE every weekend at my friends house system link because it was fun, that game was fun for years.
star wars battlefront was fun for months.
heck even rainbow 6 vegas on 360 was fun for a long long time, but recently games get boring in days rather then weeks or months.
If dust 514 is the game that lasts months instead of days people will play it. |
Jim Era
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Posted - 2012.10.01 16:42:00 -
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I think Dust is more meant for eve players already.
Why else play that game over call of duty?
Its to better control your space and environment.
Also, more immediate play is available while you are stuck mining. |
Xpaulusx
Naari LLC
77
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Posted - 2012.10.01 16:42:00 -
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Agree that concole games have a short life. This is a risky gamble on CCP's part, hope it works out for them |
Marlona Sky
D00M.
Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2012.10.01 16:43:00 -
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Nerd rage. Lots and lots of nerd rage.
Remove local, structure mails and revamp the directional scanner! |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
354
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Posted - 2012.10.01 16:51:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:i think many PC players don't realize console players in reality want a game that lasts them 12 months the problem is this gen most game have been boring after a few weeks.
I remember halo CE every weekend at my friends house system link because it was fun, that game was fun for years.
star wars battlefront was fun for months.
heck even rainbow 6 vegas on 360 was fun for a long long time, but recently games get boring in days rather then weeks or months.
If dust 514 is the game that lasts months instead of days people will play it.
Ever play Chromehounds? If not, you missed a great game that many played for a few years. If dust matches that game, it will last for a long while. |
James 315
Experimental Fun Times Corp
2866
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Posted - 2012.10.01 16:52:00 -
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Depends on how awesome Dust 514 is as an FPS game. If it's not so awesome, then things could get bumpy. 
-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+-+ MinerBumping.com -½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½-½The daily saga of the New Order's quest to conquer all highsec by bumping miners out of range. |
Creedling
20
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Posted - 2012.10.01 16:54:00 -
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I'm looking forward to producing DUST equipment :D |
Lord Ryan
True Xero
678
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Posted - 2012.10.01 17:01:00 -
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Herping yourDerp wrote:i think many PC players don't realize console players in reality want a game that lasts them 12 months the problem is this gen most game have been boring after a few weeks.
I remember halo CE every weekend at my friends house system link because it was fun, that game was fun for years.
star wars battlefront was fun for months.
heck even rainbow 6 vegas on 360 was fun for a long long time, but recently games get boring in days rather then weeks or months.
If dust 514 is the game that lasts months instead of days people will play it.
I still play Golden Eye and SW Battlefronts. My friends played those and Mario Karts for years. I gave up MK when they lost interest, just not fun by yourself. Still own a couple though. But yeah your right modern games seem to blow ass. Can't forget GT 2, best racing game either. Since I hated Halo, I can't imagine I'll care for Dust.
Do not assume-áanything above this line-áwas typed by me.
Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
Nerf it cause I can't fly it.
I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |
Aless Benetek
New Edens United Nation
Gecko Alliance
0
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Posted - 2012.10.01 17:02:00 -
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In my limited experience, the only way folks survive Eve, in between the exciting parts, is to alt tab into Minecraft, World of Tanks, etc.
I would gladly alt tab into Dust except.....it is on a PS3!
I will not be relocating my PS3 into my computer room and to be honest, have no interest in trying Dust but....
if it were PC based, I wouldn't hesitate to have it as my alt-tab game of choice.
As it stands, I hope it thrives and makes the Eve universe more exciting - but I won't be playing, sticking to my alt-tab game of choice atm, WoT.
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Othran
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
231
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Posted - 2012.10.01 17:29:00 -
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Unless Dust opens up huge new isk fountains (very likely IMHO) then its dead on arrival.
I know a lot more FPS players than I do Eve players and almost without exception they are unimpressed by Dust. A lot of them mention the amount of options as being daunting but the bottom line is that none of them find the game compelling enough to play regularly.
The only FPS players I know who would try Dust regularly are ex-Eve players - some of whom didn't like Eve (game mechanics) at all but like the Eve idea..
So unless Dust players in your Eve corp = huge ISK fountain in Eve then I can't see Dust doing well in a world of FPS games..... |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation
RvB - RED Federation
354
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Posted - 2012.10.01 17:45:00 -
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My biggest worry about dust is the potential for "boosters". A "booster" is a player with multiple consoles who attempt to influence stats and other in game factors by abusing their multiple accounts.
For example, if I had 2 consoles, 2 online accounts, and 2 copies of an fps, it may be possible to create matches where I am only playing myself. As I control both sides of the battle, I can manipulate the outcome to my advantage. For example, I could have one account always win, getting a perfect kill to death ratio if that is of value. Or worse, I could quickly lose to myself, scoring a large number of quick wins, potentially flipping a map for my group/squad.
Now dust may be setup such that boosting has no value other than making,my epeen look big. in that case, who cares. However, if boosting can strongly influence maps, wars, etc, it could be a large problem. Given that we know corps have used similar boosting concepts to impact factional warfare, and there may be users with multiple accounts and consoles, boosting coukd be an issue. Hopefully ccp is prepared, but it really will just be a wait and see. |
Gogela
Freeport Exploration
Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
1191
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Posted - 2012.10.01 17:54:00 -
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It remains to be seen how they are going to link the economy of DUST with that of EvE. Things work differently enough in DUST that the EvE industrial base may have nothing to offer them. Play the beta.
DUST will probably bring in some new players. Regardless of what the long term prospects are, I would bet we bring in the winter expansion with a surge in player numbers...
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Lord Ryan
True Xero
678
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Posted - 2012.10.01 18:03:00 -
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Lady Ayeipsia wrote:My biggest worry about dust is the potential for "boosters". A "booster" is a player with multiple consoles who attempt to influence stats and other in game factors by abusing their multiple accounts.
For example, if I had 2 consoles, 2 online accounts, and 2 copies of an fps, it may be possible to create matches where I am only playing myself. As I control both sides of the battle, I can manipulate the outcome to my advantage. For example, I could have one account always win, getting a perfect kill to death ratio if that is of value. Or worse, I could quickly lose to myself, scoring a large number of quick wins, potentially flipping a map for my group/squad.
Now dust may be setup such that boosting has no value other than making,my epeen look big. in that case, who cares. However, if boosting can strongly influence maps, wars, etc, it could be a large problem. Given that we know corps have used similar boosting concepts to impact factional warfare, and there may be users with multiple accounts and consoles, boosting coukd be an issue. Hopefully ccp is prepared, but it really will just be a wait and see.
I have 2. One of the old 40g with mods, I never use. And a newer 320g. Thank you, now I have a reason to use both.
Do not assume-áanything above this line-áwas typed by me.
Nerf the Truth, it's inconvenient.
Nerf it cause I can't fly it.
I want to fly a badass Mon Calamari stlye-ácruiser painted to match my Tron clothes. |
The Djentleman Paulson
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
62
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Posted - 2012.10.01 18:09:00 -
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SONY IN TEST
TEST WIN EVE |
highonpop
Eve Liberation Force
Fatal Ascension
333
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Posted - 2012.10.01 18:12:00 -
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Dust will cause more people coming into the EVE-O GD section to start a complaint thread to try and gain more attention to their opinion, which is nothing more than a regurgitated opinion of someone else who also has never even played Dust514 but are very quick to give their twice regurgitated rhetorical opinion of the game.
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya
R.I.P Vile Rat
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/live/Outpost/Rename/2012-09-12 |
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
316
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Posted - 2012.10.01 18:13:00 -
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I am curious, since I don't play FPS, and have no console, Dust has been out of realm of commenting.
I know it could have a huge impact on Eve, but I am unsure of the mechanics of Dust and the how it will interact with Eve.
But will Dust players be buying Aurum directly, or will they need to buy plex to convert to Aurum? |
highonpop
Eve Liberation Force
Fatal Ascension
333
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Posted - 2012.10.01 18:15:00 -
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isk4trade wrote:I personally think it will be very detrimental and that they will never find a common ground between immediate gratification FPS players and the Empire-building types that hope to have a really good situation going for them at the end of a 6 month or 12 month or two year plan.
I just do not see it working. I see it as a diversion and market destabilizing infulence. ...
What do YOU see ?
me
You know how I know you've never played DUST but are giving you opinion?
If you had you would know that there are special game modes that are just like current FPS for the players that are looking for that instant win and not a lengthy contract. But that is as much as I can say without violating the NDA
http://www.soundboard.com/sb/Very%20best%20of%20Makalu%20Zarya
R.I.P Vile Rat
http://evemaps.dotlan.net/live/Outpost/Rename/2012-09-12 |
Dunkle Lars
NorCorp Enterprise
No Holes Barred
6
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Posted - 2012.10.01 21:11:00 -
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I really hope that Dust will be the biggest hit ever and really influence EvE.. But since SOE has a hand in it I truely fear they'll destroy both Dust and EvE like countless games before.. Scaling us down the the bottom line of intelligence |
Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
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Posted - 2012.10.01 21:35:00 -
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James 315 wrote:...bumpy.
It just wouldn't be a James315 post if you didn't squeeze bump into it somehow :D
Mr Epeen 
There is no excuse beyond fatalistic self-indulgence and sheer laziness for doing nothing --á Iain Banks |
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