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King Rothgar
Black Watch Guard Gl0rious Bastards
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Posted - 2012.10.02 00:57:00 -
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I've been toying with dictors a bit lately and can fly all 4 of them. The trouble is, the sabre seems to be the only one that can be fit in a sensible way. Current sabre fit is this:
[Sabre, solo] Damage Control II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I Medium Shield Extender II
200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S 200mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma S Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Small Anti-Thermal Screen Reinforcer I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
I'm quite happy with this setup. It's quick enough to burn out and decloak people for scram/web, has good dps and a light but useful tank. It's also quite nimble. But I am trying to cut myself down to amarr only so I'd like to use the heretic instead. The trouble is, although the slot layout is good and so are the bonuses, I'm running into a brick wall in terms of PG/CPU. What I'd like to fit is this:
[Heretic, test] Damage Control II Centii C-Type Adaptive Nano Plating 400mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Inferno Rocket Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe
Small Trimark Armor Pump I Small Trimark Armor Pump I
The trouble is, this is way over on both CPU and PG. Even with an AB it's still over. If this fit, I think it would be a solid alternative to the sabre I currently use. It has less dps and speed, but greater tank and range. Seems like a fair trade but as said, this just doesn't fit. So any thoughts?
BTW, planned use is solo or duo with skirmish links. I looked at an MSE fit as well but it ended up being nothing more than a bad sabre. The Troll is trolling. |
King Rothgar
Black Watch Guard Gl0rious Bastards
308
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Posted - 2012.10.02 04:49:00 -
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38 views and not even someone telling me to stfu noob and fly a sabre? The Troll is trolling. |
Belthazor4011
Battle BV I Know Right
62
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Posted - 2012.10.02 05:09:00 -
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[Heretic, New Setup 1] Pseudoelectron Containment Field I Nanofiber Internal Structure II Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Upgraded 1MN MicroWarpdrive I Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Rocket Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer II Small Core Defense Field Extender I
Maybe? But yeah Sabre is better. |
King Rothgar
Black Watch Guard Gl0rious Bastards
308
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Posted - 2012.10.02 05:11:00 -
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That's basically what I came up with for it, but then it's just a gimped saber. The Troll is trolling. |
Whisperen
That's Not A Knife Flatline.
14
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Posted - 2012.10.02 05:37:00 -
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You need a cloak on a LIC drop the scram for a web. |
King Rothgar
Black Watch Guard Gl0rious Bastards
308
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Posted - 2012.10.02 06:23:00 -
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Seriously? And I thought I was having trouble finding a decent fit for it. The Troll is trolling. |
Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2012.10.02 22:11:00 -
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[Heretic, probe launcher] Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Co-Processor II
1MN Digital Booster Rockets J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I Medium Azeotropic Ward Salubrity I
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe Expanded Probe Launcher I, Core Scanner Probe I [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I Small Gravity Capacitor Upgrade I
There ya go, a dictor that can probe down and land right on the enemy fleet, priceless. You might want to fit a cloak also that you offline when you online the launcher. |
King Rothgar
Black Watch Guard Gl0rious Bastards
309
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Posted - 2012.10.03 01:46:00 -
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Sjugar, thank you for replying to my original post without even bothering to read it. The Troll is trolling. |
Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
492
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Posted - 2012.10.03 04:12:00 -
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The responses in this thread are horrifying.
Ill look through my fits tonight and see if I have mine from a while back. Heretic Army Warlord and Diplomat Host of Frigfest http://judelloyd.blog.com/
http://kbarmy.heretic-army.biz/
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Jude Lloyd
Heretic Army Heretic Nation
492
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Posted - 2012.10.03 04:15:00 -
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Also, have you considered the fitting implants? They have done wonders for me. Heretic Army Warlord and Diplomat Host of Frigfest http://judelloyd.blog.com/
http://kbarmy.heretic-army.biz/
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King Rothgar
Black Watch Guard Gl0rious Bastards
309
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Posted - 2012.10.03 09:22:00 -
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Normally I try to avoid them but yeah, I have. The Troll is trolling. |
Danny John-Peter
The Legion of Spoon Curatores Veritatis Alliance
143
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Posted - 2012.10.03 12:47:00 -
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DISCLAIMER; These fits are for bubbling, and not insta-dieing, nothing else.
[Heretic, Tripple Bubble + Cloak] Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Co-Processor II
Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I Medium Shield Extender II Medium Shield Extender II
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe 125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S Prototype Cloaking Device I [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Hilarious Triple bubble + Cloak fit.
[Heretic, Dual Bubble + Cloak] Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Internal Force Field Array I
Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I Medium Shield Extender II Medium Shield Extender II
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe Prototype Cloaking Device I 125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Small Core Defense Field Extender I Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Double bubble + Cloak, awesome tank.
[Heretic, Tripple Bubble] Co-Processor II Co-Processor II Internal Force Field Array I
Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction Medium Shield Extender II
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe 125mm Gatling AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet EMP S [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot] [empty high slot]
Small Processor Overclocking Unit I Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
Tribubble with more tank.
As for a solo fit, I think a mate of mine used this;
[Heretic, Armour Bubbles] 400mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I Internal Force Field Array I Adaptive Nano Plating II
Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I Initiated Harmonic Warp Scrambler I 'Langour' Drive Disruptor I
Interdiction Sphere Launcher I, Warp Disrupt Probe Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket Rocket Launcher II, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket 'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket 'Arbalest' Rocket Launcher I, Caldari Navy Scourge Rocket Small Unstable Power Fluctuator I
Small Ancillary Current Router I Small Bay Loading Accelerator I |
King Rothgar
Black Watch Guard Gl0rious Bastards
309
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Posted - 2012.10.03 13:28:00 -
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I'm mostly interested in solo/duo type stuff, so the last one is it. Fairly pathetic that you have to drop to a couple of t1 launchers due to PG/CPU. I'm really not happy with that. I'll keep toying in eft to see if I can squeeze something out. CCP seroiusly needs to rework the dictors though, it's unbelievable that the sabre is so easy to fit when all the others trip over themselves with PG/CPU restrictions. The Troll is trolling. |
Lady Ayeipsia
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
355
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Posted - 2012.10.03 13:40:00 -
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Skip amarr, go caldari? You'll use missile instead of rockets, have no CPU issues, and be even better post winter expansion when changes are made to the small launchers.
Just a thought that might save you some headaches. The heretic looks great but is one if the worst dictors to fit. |
Sjugar
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
49
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Posted - 2012.10.03 16:39:00 -
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King Rothgar wrote:Sjugar, thank you for replying to my original post without even bothering to read it. Sorry, but you want your heretic to be a sabre. In the current state there are 2 types of dictors: Sabres and the rest. You use sabres for solo and small gang, because they're effective at that and fun to fly. You use the rest for fleetwork because then your dps doesn't matter, only your ability to catch people with your bubbles and scram and the fact that non-sabre dictors are a lot cheaper then sabres makes them ideal for that role. |
Skelee VI
Wraithguard.
14
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Posted - 2012.10.03 19:51:00 -
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the only good reason to fly heretic is if u don't want to blow the isky on a sabre! Sabre is the only dic worth flying if u want to do anything more than pop a bubble |
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