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Pavel Andreievich Chekov
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.10.10 15:48:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Pavel Andreievich Chekov wrote:Hay devs while I like the return of the live events but is there a chance that I could get involved in the planning side of thses events or even run an event like this.
In game events run by a group of players or something like that.
Just an idea as devs can get swamped around deployment time... Many players already run their own events. We heartily encourage this.
Not realy the same thing.
The players don't have the resources to spawn x, y or z granted this comes from having the title DEV.
As an example say I wanted to be part of an event in jita but on the NPC pirate side this as it is from what I understand is impossible. Now say I want to spawn more support because of the insane number of pilots attending this again is impossible.
This is the level of player interaction I would love to see I duno you could do a scheem like the ISD recruitment but for live events i'm prity sure you would get alot of support.
There are many ideas floating around in my head some off the wall maybe this is one such idea that is just never going to work Idea submited regardless. |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
1058

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Posted - 2012.10.10 16:26:00 -
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Pavel Andreievich Chekov wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Pavel Andreievich Chekov wrote:Hay devs while I like the return of the live events but is there a chance that I could get involved in the planning side of thses events or even run an event like this.
In game events run by a group of players or something like that.
Just an idea as devs can get swamped around deployment time... Many players already run their own events. We heartily encourage this. Not realy the same thing. The players don't have the resources to spawn x, y or z granted this comes from having the title DEV. As an example say I wanted to be part of an event in jita but on the NPC pirate side this as it is from what I understand is impossible. Now say I want to spawn more support because of the insane number of pilots attending this again is impossible. This is the level of player interaction I would love to see I duno you could do a scheem like the ISD recruitment but for live events i'm prity sure you would get alot of support. I would love to play as a pirate NPC pilot calling in more NPC's to support the ever growing event. There are many ideas floating around in my head some off the wall maybe this is one such idea that is just never going to work Idea submited regardless.
This used to happen - the Mercury ISD program ran events with a certain amount of dev commands. We have absolutely no plans to re-implement this program or anything like it at this time. CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
576
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Posted - 2012.10.10 16:27:00 -
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Pavel Andreievich Chekov wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Pavel Andreievich Chekov wrote:Hay devs while I like the return of the live events but is there a chance that I could get involved in the planning side of thses events or even run an event like this.
In game events run by a group of players or something like that.
Just an idea as devs can get swamped around deployment time... Many players already run their own events. We heartily encourage this. Not realy the same thing. The players don't have the resources to spawn x, y or z granted this comes from having the title DEV. As an example say I wanted to be part of an event in jita but on the NPC pirate side this as it is from what I understand is impossible. Now say I want to spawn more support because of the insane number of pilots attending this again is impossible. This is the level of player interaction I would love to see I duno you could do a scheem like the ISD recruitment but for live events i'm prity sure you would get alot of support. I would love to play as a pirate NPC pilot calling in more NPC's to support the ever growing event. There are many ideas floating around in my head some off the wall maybe this is one such idea that is just never going to work Idea submited regardless.
That would be extremely costly on both ends. Most likely, it's either we have our own player events indefinitely, or have Live Events hosted by CCP. I prefer the latter. Collaborative work with CCP is good, but that tends to leave or alienate many other players.
I say have CCP dictate the terms and make amends depending on capsuleers' reaction.
"Slave Heavenbound" is a fine example of the marriage between CCP and players. Let capsuleers roleplay and let CCP use its resources to play out our ideas while simultaneously playing out the already written Live Event Story initially conceived by CCP team. Players should not be empowered with controlling/spawning Angels or something so far fetched. |

Leviathan Tank
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
2
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Posted - 2012.10.10 16:44:00 -
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You have made 0.0 too safe so scrubs finding kills in hs.
Bears prosper.
Edit: Pavel Andreievich Chekov, players can spawn items you spacebad, just require isk to do so. Be less spastic.
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Pavel Andreievich Chekov
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
2
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Posted - 2012.10.10 17:21:00 -
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Leviathan Tank wrote:You have made 0.0 too safe so scrubs finding kills in hs.
Bears prosper.
Edit: Pavel Andreievich Chekov, players can spawn items you spacebad, just require isk to do so. Be less spastic.
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Back under the bridge you go troll you have provided nothing constructive in this statment. |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1029
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Posted - 2012.10.10 18:03:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:.... If we went crazy and gave out event info 1 week in advance, publicising it daily on the EVE Online twitter and facebook, renting some ad space during the Superbowl, etc. we would likely see a massive increase in the amount of players in and around system......
You do realize there are players like me who do not use twitter, facebook, or watch the superbowl? http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
576
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Posted - 2012.10.10 18:08:00 -
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Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:.... If we went crazy and gave out event info 1 week in advance, publicising it daily on the EVE Online twitter and facebook, renting some ad space during the Superbowl, etc. we would likely see a massive increase in the amount of players in and around system...... You do realize there are players like me who do not use twitter, facebook, or watch the superbowl?
And there are also many players who use twitter, facebook, and/or watch superbowl.
CCP Goliath is not saying that these are the only venues that will be used to disseminate Live Events info. They will be used in addition to the existing Devblogs, Live Events channel, and forums. |

Akrasjel Lanate
Naquatech Conglomerate
789
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Posted - 2012.10.10 18:20:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Pavel Andreievich Chekov wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Pavel Andreievich Chekov wrote:Hay devs while I like the return of the live events but is there a chance that I could get involved in the planning side of thses events or even run an event like this.
In game events run by a group of players or something like that.
Just an idea as devs can get swamped around deployment time... Many players already run their own events. We heartily encourage this. Not realy the same thing. The players don't have the resources to spawn x, y or z granted this comes from having the title DEV. As an example say I wanted to be part of an event in jita but on the NPC pirate side this as it is from what I understand is impossible. Now say I want to spawn more support because of the insane number of pilots attending this again is impossible. This is the level of player interaction I would love to see I duno you could do a scheem like the ISD recruitment but for live events i'm prity sure you would get alot of support. I would love to play as a pirate NPC pilot calling in more NPC's to support the ever growing event. There are many ideas floating around in my head some off the wall maybe this is one such idea that is just never going to work Idea submited regardless. That would be extremely costly on both ends. Most likely, it's either we have our own player events indefinitely, or have Live Events hosted by CCP. I prefer the latter. Collaborative work with CCP is good, but that tends to leave or alienate many other players. I say have CCP dictate the terms and make amends depending on capsuleers' reaction. "Slave Heavenbound" is a fine example of the marriage between CCP and players. Let capsuleers roleplay and let CCP use its resources to play out our ideas while simultaneously playing out the already written Live Event Story initially conceived by CCP team. Players should not be empowered with controlling/spawning Angels or something so far fetched.
Or "Citizen Arson" who was directly based on an other player Drake Arson |

The Antiquarian
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
576
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Posted - 2012.10.10 18:29:00 -
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Oh yup. That was definitely epic. And the ISD being "enslaved" as well. |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
1059

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Posted - 2012.10.10 18:35:00 -
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The Antiquarian wrote:Vincent Athena wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:.... If we went crazy and gave out event info 1 week in advance, publicising it daily on the EVE Online twitter and facebook, renting some ad space during the Superbowl, etc. we would likely see a massive increase in the amount of players in and around system...... You do realize there are players like me who do not use twitter, facebook, or watch the superbowl? And there are also many players who use twitter, facebook, and/or watch superbowl. CCP Goliath is not saying that these are the only venues that will be used to disseminate Live Events info. They will be used in addition to the existing Devblogs, Live Events channel, and forums.
Or who use the forums, where the information also is! I would like to say though that it is unlikely we will pursue the Superbowl idea.
The bottom line is, when we need to get the message out there, there are plenty of ways to do it. Believe me, if I could Santa-Claus my way around the world dropping personalised invitations to Live Events into peoples' hands as they slept, I wouldn't - that would be really creepy. I'd consider evemailing them or something though. CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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Nyla Skin
Maximum fun chamber
94
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Posted - 2012.10.11 07:08:00 -
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True Sight wrote:Part of the problem is the dev blog is referencing "fluffer RP" that is, material that has no actual visual impact in-game, i.e. Angel bombarding planets has no impact on players, we can't see it happening, can't see a giant hole in the planet afterwards. Since fluffer content has been posted for years, the change now that this actually means something and people should pay attention to it becomes confusing, primarily with the constant switching between IC/OOC.
Millions dead means nothing to an eve pilot, a buy order in that system for kilo-tones of medical supplies at a good markup does :)
All of this would be much more interesting if there was anything visual ingame to actually signify the stuff. As it is, I'm not sure why I should care about going to some system with a blob of random players typing random things on local and thats it.
Tbh, EVE is the MMO/game whose backstory I care about the least, since the game is just about as minimalistic in its visual storytelling as is humanly possible.
edit: Also I doubt the event has any effect on anything in the eve universe. |

Skooma Steve
Merchants Trade Consortium The Last Chancers.
0
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Posted - 2012.10.12 07:31:00 -
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i participated in the live events when incursions were new and it was a metric f*%^ton of fun. However have you guys considered the idea of instead of just announcing a live event or just doing it and hoping people catch on.. maybe forming a fleet starting in whatever region the attacking faction is based out of (or somewhere nearby) and then moving through to the system that is going to be attacked. Or in the case of the old incursion ones, when i mothership shows up maybe have it get cyno'd in using dev hacks to use cyno's in high sec. It would give role players and people who participate in live events a chance to get a good heads up and form a fleet, without someone just telling them whats about to happen.. and also give them a chance to intercept these forces before they can reach their target...
just a few ideas of mine.. also there should be more story content for sleepers, i'm in a wormhole corp and slowly grinding the same sites over and over again gets old.. lets see some sleeper live events... maybe make them pissed that we're using the implants of their builders to make super soldiers for DUST? eh... EEEEHHHH??? you know you like that idea |

Ghostdog9
Red Phoenix Rising Lucky 13 alliance
7
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Posted - 2012.10.16 07:19:00 -
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Skooma Steve wrote: when a mothership shows up maybe have it get cyno'd in using dev hacks to use cyno's in high sec. It would give role players and people who participate in live events a chance to get a good heads up and form a fleet, without someone just telling them whats about to happen.. and also give them a chance to intercept these forces before they can reach their target..
The Devs don't want to give anyone a heads up that isn't in their in-game circle of friends. This is just another way to reward their buddies. Like giving BOB all those BPO's and stuff back in the day. It's a transparent way they can give fat loots to their buddies in front of everyone and make it look legit. That is why they won't make live events public for everyone. |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
1072

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Posted - 2012.10.16 10:03:00 -
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Ghostdog9 wrote:Skooma Steve wrote: when a mothership shows up maybe have it get cyno'd in using dev hacks to use cyno's in high sec. It would give role players and people who participate in live events a chance to get a good heads up and form a fleet, without someone just telling them whats about to happen.. and also give them a chance to intercept these forces before they can reach their target.. The Devs don't want to give anyone a heads up that isn't in their in-game circle of friends. This is just another way to reward their buddies. Like giving BOB all those BPO's and stuff back in the day. It's a transparent way they can give fat loots to their buddies in front of everyone and make it look legit. That is why they won't make live events public for everyone.
1/10 - The pirate live events are and have been made public for everyone and don't drop any loot of real consequence. I wish there was an emoticon for a derisive snort.  CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
194
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Posted - 2012.10.16 10:52:00 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Ghostdog9 wrote:
The Devs don't want to give anyone a heads up that isn't in their in-game circle of friends. This is just another way to reward their buddies. Like giving BOB all those BPO's and stuff back in the day. It's a transparent way they can give fat loots to their buddies in front of everyone and make it look legit. That is why they won't make live events public for everyone.
1/10 - The pirate live events are and have been made public for everyone and don't drop any loot of real consequence. I wish there was an emoticon for a derisive snort. 
Then why did you let me blow up a hauler that was carrying 600 PLEX for his "Pirate" buddies after I went out drinking with you the one time? You know when you arranged for that Live Event to take place in a safe spot only me and you had the bookmarks too? You know, you said yo'd do it as long as I let you go on a date with my sister?
(Note: For the dim I need to add this din't actually happen). |

Shandir
Indigo Archive
175
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Posted - 2012.10.16 12:26:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Ghostdog9 wrote:
The Devs don't want to give anyone a heads up that isn't in their in-game circle of friends. This is just another way to reward their buddies. Like giving BOB all those BPO's and stuff back in the day. It's a transparent way they can give fat loots to their buddies in front of everyone and make it look legit. That is why they won't make live events public for everyone.
1/10 - The pirate live events are and have been made public for everyone and don't drop any loot of real consequence. I wish there was an emoticon for a derisive snort.  Then why did you let me blow up a hauler that was carrying 600 PLEX for his "Pirate" buddies after I went out drinking with you the one time? You know when you arranged for that Live Event to take place in a safe spot only me and you had the bookmarks too? You know, you said yo'd do it as long as I let you go on a date with my sister? (Note: For the dim I need to add this din't actually happen). So, what you're saying is - your sister's still available?  |

Bienator II
madmen of the skies
1027
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:55:00 -
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devtip: make sure you can set bounties to certain life event characters (and announce their names) once the system is deployed with retribution a eve-style bounty system https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=359105 You fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail you fail to jump because you are cloaked |

Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
203
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Posted - 2012.10.17 02:57:00 -
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Shandir wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:Ghostdog9 wrote:
The Devs don't want to give anyone a heads up that isn't in their in-game circle of friends. This is just another way to reward their buddies. Like giving BOB all those BPO's and stuff back in the day. It's a transparent way they can give fat loots to their buddies in front of everyone and make it look legit. That is why they won't make live events public for everyone.
1/10 - The pirate live events are and have been made public for everyone and don't drop any loot of real consequence. I wish there was an emoticon for a derisive snort.  Then why did you let me blow up a hauler that was carrying 600 PLEX for his "Pirate" buddies after I went out drinking with you the one time? You know when you arranged for that Live Event to take place in a safe spot only me and you had the bookmarks too? You know, you said yo'd do it as long as I let you go on a date with my sister? (Note: For the dim I need to add this din't actually happen). So, what you're saying is - your sister's still available? 
Yes, for 600 PLEX.
I hope no-one actually coughs that up as I'd have to find a sister. |

Pelea Ming
Demonic. Dominatus Atrum Mortis
0
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Posted - 2012.10.17 12:21:00 -
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As a player who back when the Sansha Incursions were first starting up tried diving into the RP (being an old school table-top RPer), ended up joining the Sansha player side, saw the Devs who at the time were doing things draw this player base in, make some vague promises, then turn around and completely burn them... I'd like to have some sort of idea is this going to be something that players who enjoy being part of the pirate factions for RP purposes would actually see some real support over? |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
1074

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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:01:00 -
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Pelea Ming wrote:As a player who back when the Sansha Incursions were first starting up tried diving into the RP (being an old school table-top RPer), ended up joining the Sansha player side, saw the Devs who at the time were doing things draw this player base in, make some vague promises, then turn around and completely burn them... I'd like to have some sort of idea is this going to be something that players who enjoy being part of the pirate factions for RP purposes would actually see some real support over?
Also, the Event flag you originally linked has only 1 Dev post followed by trolling and then is locked indefinately... did I miss a post to a different thread somewhere? If so, could you repost it in reply to this?
PS: If I come across abit unclear, I'm up rather late for me, going through abit of insomnia, please ask for clarifications if needed.
Glad you're keen to get involved. Just a couple of questions:
1. When you say "players who enjoy being part of the pirate factions for RP purposes would actually see some real support over", I'd like you to be more specific by what you mean by real support. Examples, or even a list of expectations, would be great.
2, Which "Event flag" are you referring to? CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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ihcn
Life. Universe. Everything. Clockwork Pineapple
3
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:11:00 -
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Ghostdog9 wrote:Skooma Steve wrote: when a mothership shows up maybe have it get cyno'd in using dev hacks to use cyno's in high sec. It would give role players and people who participate in live events a chance to get a good heads up and form a fleet, without someone just telling them whats about to happen.. and also give them a chance to intercept these forces before they can reach their target.. The Devs don't want to give anyone a heads up that isn't in their in-game circle of friends. This is just another way to reward their buddies. Like giving BOB all those BPO's and stuff back in the day. It's a transparent way they can give fat loots to their buddies in front of everyone and make it look legit. That is why they won't make live events public for everyone. This post is dumber than most youtube comments |

Pelea Ming
Demonic. Dominatus Atrum Mortis
0
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:13:00 -
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*hates hates hates forums* umm... the flag was the one linked somewhere near the beginning of all of this and mentioned as being a place to monitor for when events would happen.... *sucks at finding things on forums (sorry)*
As for support, well, for a brief time period, the Devs during the Sansha Inc live events were including the Sansha players as members of the invading force, having even made promises to figure out a way to flag them as part of the event so that not only did the NPCs not shoot at them, but possibly even set it up so that they could fire back at the other players shooting at the NPCs even though it was in HS, and there were even some rumors that perhaps there might eventually develop a way to actually join the NPC pirate faction corps (though that last part was strictly rumor mill)
In short, I'm (p)fishing abit here, to see what you have in mind to keep this from being what last time I was involved in these things went from starting out with all sorts of promises to a pretty dead fish. |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
1075

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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:20:00 -
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Pelea Ming wrote:*hates hates hates forums* umm... the flag was the one linked somewhere near the beginning of all of this and mentioned as being a place to monitor for when events would happen.... *sucks at finding things on forums (sorry)*
As for support, well, for a brief time period, the Devs during the Sansha Inc live events were including the Sansha players as members of the invading force, having even made promises to figure out a way to flag them as part of the event so that not only did the NPCs not shoot at them, but possibly even set it up so that they could fire back at the other players shooting at the NPCs even though it was in HS, and there were even some rumors that perhaps there might eventually develop a way to actually join the NPC pirate faction corps (though that last part was strictly rumor mill)
In short, I'm (p)fishing abit here, to see what you have in mind to keep this from being what last time I was involved in these things went from starting out with all sorts of promises to a pretty dead fish.
Are you referring to this post? https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=2007823#post2007823
Those arent specific threads, they are forums where we will post relevant info.
As to your other question, for the very reason you felt so aggrieved before, I will make absolutely no promises to any effect until we have concrete plans in motion. As far as I am concerned, you side with pirates at your own risk , at least for the time being. We have had more support for the pirates in recent events than the poor people they're attacking though!
CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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Pelea Ming
Demonic. Dominatus Atrum Mortis
0
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:36:00 -
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Yes, it was the links in that post you linked, and when I clicked on the one at the top with a flag on it, though, there was nothing in it... or should I be looking for a different link on the destination site? |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
1075

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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:41:00 -
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Pelea Ming wrote:Yes, it was the links in that post you linked, and when I clicked on the one at the top with a flag on it, though, there was nothing in it... or should I be looking for a different link on the destination site?
Well for instance, the thread started by me on that forum called "Guristas message of intent spotted" was about an event. CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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Pelea Ming
Demonic. Dominatus Atrum Mortis
0
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Posted - 2012.10.17 13:56:00 -
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Ok, so I should watch it for new posts by the Devs then, is it listed by most recent at the top, or oldest at the top? |
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CCP Goliath
C C P C C P Alliance
1075

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Posted - 2012.10.17 14:03:00 -
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Pelea Ming wrote:Ok, so I should watch it for new posts by the Devs then, is it listed by most recent at the top, or oldest at the top?
We might not always post, that was just one way we were trying out. Other times we have relied on players to leak or uncover certain communications. There's no cookie cutter thing I can tell you right now because we're trying a bunch of new things. We also post on the Intergalactic Summit in-character, which doesn't show devtags. CCP Goliath | QA Director | EVE Illuminati | @CCP_Goliath |
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Pelea Ming
Demonic. Dominatus Atrum Mortis
0
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Posted - 2012.10.17 14:06:00 -
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Ahhhs. Well, I have joined the Live Events channel, and I'll monitor that list as well, hopefully between the two I won't miss much. On a side note, I noticed a player who had managed to miss out about the incursions stuff earlier, and sent them an evemail that I hope they take advantage of offering to help them with information about incursions, the current communities for it, and all, I hope he takes me up on the offer!
Also, LOVE how responsive you guys have been, even trying to give the obvious trolls a fair shake over it all, definately much more PC then I'd have been *winks* Well, look forward to having some fun, fly safe or dangerous as your preference is! |

Pelea Ming
Demonic. Dominatus Atrum Mortis
0
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Posted - 2012.10.17 14:41:00 -
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and for those monitoring this thread, thar be lil ol birdies flittering about, chirping that the bunnies are gathering about the Ihakana system sometime Thursday in preperation for another uprising! Now, personally, atm, I'm nuetral to either side, so lessee who drops me some feelers :) |

Midori Amiiko
Garoun Investment Bank Gallente Federation
12
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Posted - 2012.11.05 03:55:00 -
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If you want to have some fun "spreading the dificulty" how about an attack on rookie systems during one of these events? Something low difficulty that happens an hour into the "real" event that gets the noobs into the mix. Ideally, all the experienced players will be headed towards the first event when the second occurs.
Along the incursion line of thought, I'd like to see the sleepers attack a system, either from a plex in a system or through a wormhole...maybe through several holes? Players would have to scan down the hole, fight through different classes of w-space and take out a site in a c-5 to end the attack, so it would have escalation elements.
edited for stupid spelling errors |
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