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        |  Tycho Enderas
 State Protectorate
 Caldari State
 
 2
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.06 00:10:00 -
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 First of all relatively big noob here.
 
 I was in a blarpy fitted with:
 
 Core defence field extender I
 Anti-EM Screen REinforce I
 
 Damage Control II
 MAPC I
 MFS II
 
 meta 4 web
 meta 4 scram
 limited 1mn mwd
 medium f-s9 shield
 
 4x light neutron II's (Null)
 
 Get dropped on by a Rupture that immediately neuts the hell out of me. Obviously screwed. With this ship, is there any real defence? I figure I can't fight out of neut range even with null, and even somehow managing to fit a cap booster is not going really save me. Is this just a matchup destined for disaster?
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        |  Mallak Azaria
 GoonWaffe
 Goonswarm Federation
 
 700
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.06 00:22:00 -
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 Pretty much. Once you're capped out you can't really do anything.
 Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable.
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        |  TrouserDeagle
 Beyond Divinity Inc
 Shadow Cartel
 
 64
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.06 00:23:00 -
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 yes it is
 
 and stop putting blasters on caldari
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        |  Unsuccessful At Everything
 Federal Navy Academy
 Gallente Federation
 
 81
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.06 01:47:00 -
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 Fit rails like the damn thing is supposed to have, then you can kite outside of the range of the medium neut he obviously had, and next time you may have a fighting chance.
 
 Holy crap...that almost sounded half helpful....so unlike me.
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        |  Tycho Enderas
 State Protectorate
 Caldari State
 
 2
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.06 02:33:00 -
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 Just didn't know rail harpy was used much for pvp.
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        |  Christine Peeveepeeski
 The Imperial Fedaykin
 
 152
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.06 11:57:00 -
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 Blarpys are the ******* bomb, railguns are fine but don't stop using blasters just because the guys above say so....
 
 Jesus, you'd think the game had more than 1 option or something
  
 Your issue has already been covered though, that fit neuted is ******. If a rupture is fitted for frigate murder then that fight was always going to be hard at brawling range.
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        |  Muad 'dib
 The Imperial Fedaykin
 
 540
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.06 12:03:00 -
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 (see above) however having a nos will make you last better to keep the Ab and guns on.
 
 Sadly if thats a ruppy with two neuts fitted, you are super screwed either way.
 http://img299.imageshack.us/img299/4375/mynewsig2.jpg
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        |  Zarnak Wulf
 Imperial Outlaws
 
 641
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.06 12:17:00 -
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 On a side note the Rupture is having one of those utility highs moved to a mid for the winter expansion. It will nuet less.
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        |  Unsuccessful At Everything
 Federal Navy Academy
 Gallente Federation
 
 107
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.07 00:00:00 -
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 Will neut less, but the remaining neut will almost always be a medium on the frig **** fits.
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        |  Tycho Enderas
 State Protectorate
 Caldari State
 
 2
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.07 00:04:00 -
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 Well I'm using MWD not AB. So would it make sense then to possibly drop down to ion blasters to fit nos?
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        |  Tycho Enderas
 State Protectorate
 Caldari State
 
 2
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.07 00:06:00 -
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 Side note.... It does seem rather hard to catch up to enemy frigates with Blarpy or kite them with Rail Harpy when the ship is so damn slow
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        |  Christine Peeveepeeski
 The Imperial Fedaykin
 
 153
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.07 07:43:00 -
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 ZarIak Wulf wrote:On a side note the Rupture is having one of those utility highs moved to a mid for the winter expansion. It will nuet less. 
 Now that I did not know. Cheers Zarlak.
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        |  Tycho Enderas
 State Protectorate
 Caldari State
 
 2
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.07 19:45:00 -
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 bump?
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        |  Belle Tristesse
 Iron Pyrite.
 
 1
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.07 20:33:00 -
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 You could fit a cap booster instead of the web. Puts you at a disadvantage vs frigs tho. Cap booster and medium shield booster is a nice fit...
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        |  Dibblerette
 The Phantom Regiment
 THE ROYAL NAVY
 
 96
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.08 04:59:00 -
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 MWD + Blasters is a pretty "All-in" combination, so you need to do a lot more managing of the terms of a fight. As unhelpful as this sounds, you should really try to not let things land on you at zero. Using your D-scanner, you should be able to tell where someone is, and if you're quick, how far roughly away they are. Also, be sure that once you land somewhere, that you MWD a little bit off in some random direction (Up is usually good, despite being a space game, people still usually thing in flat surfaces) which should give you a little room to think and react.
 
 Honestly, if I saw a Rupture on D-scan and was in a frigate, I'd probably just avoid him. Neuts plus decent tracking on double bonused projectiles plus a full flight of lights with a spare? I'll pass, thanks.
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        |  Meditril
 T.R.I.A.D
 Ushra'Khan
 
 131
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.08 12:31:00 -
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 Dibblerette wrote:Honestly, if I saw a Rupture on D-scan and was in a frigate, I'd probably just avoid him. Neuts plus decent tracking on double bonused projectiles plus a full flight of lights with a spare? I'll pass, thanks. 
 Dib is right, if you fly a frigate there are simply ships out there which you should avoid, at least if you are not sure that your enemy is a total noob. Rupture is definatelly one of them, since they have usually two neutralizers on board which is for frigates very bad in close combat. Some holds for many Hurricare Brawling setups.
 
 One strategy you can try is to orbit him at 20 km (even if you are close range). If he engages you then you get at least and idea what weapons he has installed. If you engages you with short range weapons (e.g. Autocannons) than you know he is short range fitted and you can run. If he uses Arty then he might be snipy fitted which means you have good chances for a close range combat.
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        |  Gibbo3771
 AQUILA INC
 Verge of Collapse
 
 241
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.08 13:43:00 -
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 On your fit.
 
 Ditch the DCU for another magstab, you already have above average EHP so more DPS should be in place. Fit 2 EM rigs.
 
 Regards to the fight, ruptures **** frigs, end of.
 
 Even a frig with a nos, rupture still shreds it as 180's 220's track frigs just fine when webbed and scrammed esp when they have an MWD. I am not one for backing out of fights but Vexor/Rupture is among the very short list of things I just do not engage in my Harpy, however Vaga's/Cynabal's are fair game since the Harpy has enough cap to take 2 med neut volleys so you can still MWD as soon as you see the neut hit you and gtfo, most Vaga pilots in the situation of being scrammed off a frig is to neut and get range so its pretty easy to catch them off guard and escape.
 
 
 Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country.
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        |  Doddy
 Excidium.
 Executive Outcomes
 
 252
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.08 16:09:00 -
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 Get close to a rupture in pretty much any frig and your days are numbered tbh.
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        |  Gizznitt Malikite
 Agony Unleashed
 Agony Empire
 
 606
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.08 21:43:00 -
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 Fit a NOS.... 4x ions + nos is typically much better than 4x neutrons and an empty high...
 
 I've solo'd ruptures in a taranis.... with much less dps and tank, and it was all because I fit a NOS....
 
 [Harpy, v2]
 Damage Control II
 Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
 Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
 
 Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
 Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
 Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
 Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
 
 Small 'Knave' Energy Drain
 Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
 Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
 Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
 Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
 
 Small Core Defense Field Extender I
 Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
 
 or
 
 [Harpy, v1]
 Damage Control II
 Power Diagnostic System II
 Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
 
 Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50
 X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
 J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
 Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
 
 Small 'Knave' Energy Drain
 Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
 Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
 Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
 Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
 
 Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
 Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
 
 
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        |  Gibbo3771
 AQUILA INC
 Verge of Collapse
 
 246
 
 
       | Posted - 2012.10.09 12:27:00 -
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 Gizznitt Malikite wrote:Fit a NOS.... 4x ions + nos is typically much better than 4x neutrons and an empty high...
 
 I've solo'd ruptures in a taranis.... with much less dps and tank, and it was all because I fit a NOS....
 
 [Harpy, v2]
 Damage Control II
 Micro Auxiliary Power Core I
 Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
 
 Medium F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
 Faint Epsilon Warp Scrambler I
 Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I
 Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
 
 Small 'Knave' Energy Drain
 Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
 Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
 Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
 Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
 
 Small Core Defense Field Extender I
 Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
 
 or
 
 [Harpy, v1]
 Damage Control II
 Power Diagnostic System II
 Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
 
 Medium Ancillary Shield Booster, Cap Booster 50
 X5 Prototype Engine Enervator
 J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
 Limited 1MN MicroWarpdrive I
 
 Small 'Knave' Energy Drain
 Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
 Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
 Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
 Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
 
 Small Processor Overclocking Unit I
 Small Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
 
 
 
 I really dont see the point in fitting the ship so its over all less effective just to open the possibility to engage a ship that frankly, is not that common. The only reason to go with ion with nos on Harpy is to hunt Vagas.
 Everytime you dont like my comments/posts the terrorists win and your a disgrace to your country.
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