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Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
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Posted - 2012.10.07 05:32:00 -
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NCDOT, goonswarm , Solar Fleet , EVoke , BricK squad, TEST, etc etc. All claims to be the most powerful alliance in existence. But who truly is ? Who is the most resourceful , who has the most guns? Who is the most battle hardened?
DIscuss down below. It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
Ghazu
213
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Posted - 2012.10.07 05:36:00 -
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dunno but ncdot sure has the hearts and minds of pubbies. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
222
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Posted - 2012.10.07 05:38:00 -
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Ghazu wrote:dunno but ncdot sure has the hearts and minds of pubbies. pubbies or puppies? It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
337
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Posted - 2012.10.07 05:40:00 -
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Just a Casual observers guess, but I'd have to say the most resourceful would be Goonswarm, and they probably also have the most guns by default. Contrary to that, I'd give my guess that the most battle Hardened would be someone else. Brick Squad maybe? zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
897
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Posted - 2012.10.07 05:41:00 -
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Damn the English language for "Kings of New Eden" not having the same number of syllables as "Princes of the Universe". http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Karl Hobb
Stellar Ore Refinery and Crematorium
695
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Posted - 2012.10.07 05:41:00 -
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I can understand your emphasis on MOST but why stress NEW? Nothing Found |
Graic Gabtar
The Lemon Party
391
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Posted - 2012.10.07 05:46:00 -
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Those Jove guys seem pretty hip. WARNING: The current poster is erratic, prone to error and generally blissfully unaware due to the taking of many hard drugs over the course of many years - most of them legal. |
Ephenos
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
13
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Posted - 2012.10.07 05:46:00 -
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Overall most powerful is likely Goonswarm, under the assumption they mostly direct the actions of the CFC as a whole, and have strong ties with the HBC for times of need. Tons and tons of pilots and money, the main forces in eve. Plus they are rich, ridiculously so. Test is in the same boat with the HBC, but a lot less money in the coffers due to no techgoo, and not as many people in the coalition.
Ev0ke and Solar are nowhere near large enough to be considered the strongest in any sense, though they are both fairly competent and experienced, more-so 95% of the CFC/HBC alliances of a similar size.
Brick Squad does not belong on the list anywhere, in the past they were definitely a contender, but they seem to have slacked off a bit over the past year or so.
As far as battle hardened and experienced, I would give that to NCdot. Yes, I know I am in the alliance so you may consider me biased, but we have had much far more success fighting the CFC across tribute and vale and vale than the entire southern coalition had defending the south. The war in Tribute is on the third month of continous fighting across all timezones while we are also fighting a second war against Solar Fleet to the east, and the battle lines are more or less stalled. Goonswarm will eventually take Tribute, but it will have cost them literally trillions of isk by the time they do.
And I am lumping several other alliances in with NCdot here, our bros in Black Legion, Nulli, and Gypsy, <3 you all. But on a battle hardened player for player basis? NCdot. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1542
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Posted - 2012.10.07 05:47:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:NCDOT has the MOST Supercaps and the most kills Huh.
Ivy Romanova wrote: most kills Haha. ^___^ Ok, sure. Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
222
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Posted - 2012.10.07 05:58:00 -
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Ephenos wrote:Overall most powerful is likely Goonswarm, under the assumption they mostly direct the actions of the CFC as a whole, and have strong ties with the HBC for times of need. Tons and tons of pilots and money, the main forces in eve. Plus they are rich, ridiculously so. Test is in the same boat with the HBC, but a lot less money in the coffers due to no techgoo, and not as many people in the coalition.
Ev0ke and Solar are nowhere near large enough to be considered the strongest in any sense, though they are both fairly competent and experienced, more-so 95% of the CFC/HBC alliances of a similar size.
Brick Squad does not belong on the list anywhere, in the past they were definitely a contender, but they seem to have slacked off a bit over the past year or so.
As far as battle hardened and experienced, I would give that to NCdot. Yes, I know I am in the alliance so you may consider me biased, but we have had much far more success fighting the CFC across tribute and vale and vale than the entire southern coalition had defending the south. The war in Tribute is on the third month of continous fighting across all timezones while we are also fighting a second war against Solar Fleet to the east, and the battle lines are more or less stalled. Goonswarm will eventually take Tribute, but it will have cost them literally trillions of isk by the time they do.
And I am lumping several other alliances in with NCdot here, our bros in Black Legion, Nulli, and Gypsy, <3 you all. But on a battle hardened player for player basis? NCdot.
I know pople hate it when I compare them to the *****. But what NCDot is doing is pretty similar to what ****** did in WWII. He opened 3 fronts. One fighting the north and west ,Euros and other neutral countries(CFC,Red citizen , etc) . One fighting in Africa (Southies) . One fighting the GIANT bear ( Solar). That didn't work out too well from him, despite it costed his enemies VERY dearly for each inch of land gained.
PS: Dafuq? why is Na=z-is and Hit=ler a swear word? It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
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Cpt Gobla
No Bullshit Jokers Wild.
129
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Posted - 2012.10.07 06:03:00 -
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This should answer your question:
CCP Fozzie wrote:- It seems obvious that these changes are biased in favour of the Goons! Is that true?
Nope, we make balance decisions based on the ships and modules themselves not political blocs in game.
- It seems obvious that these changes are biased against the Goons! Is that true?
Nope, we make balance decisions based on the ships and modules themselves not political blocs in game.
I don't see any other alliance with such power and influence that they pervade every single aspect of EvE.
From innocent carebears to bitter null-sec vets, from 1-month old miners to CCP Devs we have all felt the cold and sweaty hand of the goons inch up our thighs. |
Mars Theran
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
337
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Posted - 2012.10.07 06:05:00 -
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Is it ironic that--despite the quote there--Julius Ceaser died to a knife in the back from Brutus, who I assume, was neither pale, nor particularly hungry-looking?
Just a thought, as I read it. zubzubzubzubzubzubzubzub |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
222
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Posted - 2012.10.07 06:06:00 -
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Cpt Gobla wrote:This should answer your question: CCP Fozzie wrote:- It seems obvious that these changes are biased in favour of the Goons! Is that true?
Nope, we make balance decisions based on the ships and modules themselves not political blocs in game.
- It seems obvious that these changes are biased against the Goons! Is that true?
Nope, we make balance decisions based on the ships and modules themselves not political blocs in game.
I don't see any other alliance with such power and influence that they pervade every single aspect of EvE. From innocent carebears to bitter null-sec vets, from 1-month old miners to CCP Devs we have all felt the cold and sweaty hand of the goons inch up our thighs.
and while Goons are getting more and more powerful by the day , other federations are too busy fighting among themselves , its just a matter of time before they are all assimilated. It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
898
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Posted - 2012.10.07 06:07:00 -
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Cpt Gobla wrote:we have all felt the cold and sweaty hand of the goons inch up our thighs. Why do you think I joined the CFC? http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
Ephenos
Burning Napalm Northern Coalition.
13
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Posted - 2012.10.07 06:07:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:
I know pople hate it when I compare them to the *****. But what NCDot is doing is pretty similar to what ****** did in WWII. He opened 3 fronts. One fighting the north and west ,Euros and other neutral countries(CFC,Red citizen , etc) . One fighting in Africa (Southies) . One fighting the GIANT bear ( Solar). That didn't work out too well from him, despite it costed his enemies VERY dearly for each inch of land gained.
Difference between WWII and Eve Online is that one is a war in which people die, and the other one is a video game we play to enjoy shooting people. Plus the ***** started the war intending to win, we never had any illusions of who would eventually be on top.
Plus the times we shoot Solar Fleet and the times we shoot CFC rarely overlap as far as timezones go. Fighting both allows us to keep all the people for all timezones in available targets. So no real burnout because of overworked pilots.
Since we time our timers for the times Solar fleet is weak, we rarely lose any structures since we time them deep into our prime, which is Solar downtime. CFC can always pull enough people to pose a strong threat to any timer, but Solar is a lot more restricted in the times they can field a strong fleet. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
222
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Posted - 2012.10.07 06:13:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Cpt Gobla wrote:we have all felt the cold and sweaty hand of the goons inch up our thighs. Why do you think I joined the CFC? because you are a homosexual who like sweaty men to caress your sausages in a tenderly manner? It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
222
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Posted - 2012.10.07 06:14:00 -
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Ephenos wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:
I know pople hate it when I compare them to the *****. But what NCDot is doing is pretty similar to what ****** did in WWII. He opened 3 fronts. One fighting the north and west ,Euros and other neutral countries(CFC,Red citizen , etc) . One fighting in Africa (Southies) . One fighting the GIANT bear ( Solar). That didn't work out too well from him, despite it costed his enemies VERY dearly for each inch of land gained.
Difference between WWII and Eve Online is that one is a war in which people die, and the other one is a video game we play to enjoy shooting people. Plus the ***** started the war intending to win, we never had any illusions of who would eventually be on top. Plus the times we shoot Solar Fleet and the times we shoot CFC rarely overlap as far as timezones go. Fighting both allows us to keep all the people for all timezones in available targets. So no real burnout because of overworked pilots. Since we time our timers for the times Solar fleet is weak, we rarely lose any structures since we time them deep into our prime, which is Solar downtime. CFC can always pull enough people to pose a strong threat to any timer, but Solar is a lot more restricted in the times they can field a strong fleet.
thats what the Nezi propaganda said 6 months before the fall of berlin It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1543
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Posted - 2012.10.07 06:30:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:Cpt Gobla wrote:we have all felt the cold and sweaty hand of the goons inch up our thighs. Why do you think I joined the CFC? I don't really want to pursue that line of thought.
Do I have to? Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
898
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Posted - 2012.10.07 06:36:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:Cpt Gobla wrote:we have all felt the cold and sweaty hand of the goons inch up our thighs. Why do you think I joined the CFC? I don't really want to pursue that line of thought. Do I have to? Yes. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
898
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Posted - 2012.10.07 06:42:00 -
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EDIT: Please ignore this shitpost. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
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Imports Plus
State War Academy Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.10.07 06:44:00 -
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The pen jabber client is mightier than the sword.
Vile rat showed us the way o7 |
Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
899
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Posted - 2012.10.07 07:02:00 -
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I almost miss the old days when someone would post a thread title like this and the pubbie masses would fall over each other in the rush to deep-throat BoB. Titans were never meant to be "cost effective", its a huge ****.-á- CCP Oveur, 2006
~If you want a picture of the future of WiS, imagine a spaceship, stamping on an avatar's face. Forever. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
223
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Posted - 2012.10.07 08:15:00 -
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Scatim Helicon wrote:I almost miss the old days when someone would post a thread title like this and the pubbie masses would fall over each other in the rush to deep-throat BoB.
Those were the good old days. But now , everyone has run out of ducks to give It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
terzslave
RedStar Enterprises RED Citizens
69
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Posted - 2012.10.07 08:46:00 -
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-A- has the most kills though.......... |
lanyaie
655
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Posted - 2012.10.07 08:47:00 -
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fortunately, There is no "best" alliance in eve they all excel at something but Ncdot has some good experienced pvpers not the most supers(as far as I know) Goonswarm when backed up by the cfc as always have the most numbers.
Test alliance has the most space not goonswarm Brick squad...not even close Oh and don't forget PL they are surely in the top 5. -A- is good, just that they can't really do anything against the numbers+ strength of the HBC and their diplomacy skills in keeping there allies happy are not really great. Hay |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
725
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Posted - 2012.10.07 09:32:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:NCDOT has the MOST Supercaps
Explain why they have trouble fielding more than 20? Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
D-Mob
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2012.10.07 09:40:00 -
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Goons have power because of what they USED to be. Goons have powernow because of the other corps in their Alliance, not the Goons themselves.
I watched the video on youtube of that Goon asking a question to the devs...
Did a lot to dwindle that notion in my head of the "Big Bad Goons"...lol.
Not to mention the Encyclopedia Dramatica article on the Goons if F'ing hilarious.
That said I root for the underdog.I prefer joining smaller groups and helping them grow. I'd like to see Red.Overlord make a comeback. |
Arkon Olacar
Imperial Guardians Tribal Band
158
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Posted - 2012.10.07 09:45:00 -
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terzslave wrote:-A- has the most kills though.......... KILLBOARD IS GREEN, DIDN'T WANT THOSE REGIONS ANYWAY "The rest will be in the blog rather than invented at the keyboards of forum posters and bloggers." -á-á-á-á-á-á-á - CCP Sreegs, 23/06/2012
Umad forum warriors? |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
223
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Posted - 2012.10.07 10:35:00 -
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Arkon Olacar wrote:terzslave wrote:-A- has the most kills though.......... KILLBOARD IS GREEN, DIDN'T WANT THOSE REGIONS ANYWAY lol It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
Gary Bell
Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
18
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Posted - 2012.10.07 11:19:00 -
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Tbh I dont think NC Dot has the most supers by alot larger margin then you think. They deff don't have more supers then CFC as a whole. The thing is alot of people don't get is all those supers they have were never really deployed solo. When you saw them in huge fleets they had PL with them as well.
If you go into capitals as a whole the sheer amount of dreads that goons can push out is so silly, even a 1 ta 2 fight NC dots way on supers would turn bad from them when Goons dropped 2 full fleets of dreads on them. It is a sight to see 250 Dreads land on grid lol.
But anyways battle hard I would say evoke. NC dot is tough and holding there own very well but they are alot larger and have alot of resources while evoke does not. The Germans really know there **** and will never stop fighting so Evoke for me. But biggest guns would have to be goons with HBC pulling a close second. With PL at there helm they are gaining some cohesion but there just not there yet. |
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Zagdul
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
1040
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Posted - 2012.10.07 11:43:00 -
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I don't get why Solar hasn't been discussed much. They're one of the most under represented alliances whenever these discussions come up.
I think for overall power and influence, Goonswarm wins hands down.
In terms of a single alliance able to stand on it's own, I'm gonna go with Solar here simply due to their age in comparison to NC. Dual Pane idea: Click!
CCP Please Implement |
Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
730
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Posted - 2012.10.07 11:48:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:I don't get why Solar hasn't been discussed much. They're one of the most under represented alliances whenever these discussions come up.
I think for overall power and influence, Goonswarm wins hands down.
In terms of a single alliance able to stand on it's own, I'm gonna go with Solar here simply due to their age in comparison to NC.
I like your sneaky 'Meat between the sandwich' joke there. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
112
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Posted - 2012.10.07 11:50:00 -
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IRC is clearly the toughest alliance.
/Thread |
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ISD TYPE40
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1526
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Posted - 2012.10.07 11:50:00 -
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Thread moved from GD to CAOD - ISD Type40. ISD Type40 Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Gary Bell
Odyssey Inc SpaceMonkey's Alliance
18
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Posted - 2012.10.07 11:53:00 -
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I think IRC falls more on the side of stupid.. LOL they are really bad and just dont accept it and go rent space. They are like the 0.0 Punching bag |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
223
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:24:00 -
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Zagdul wrote:I don't get why Solar hasn't been discussed much. They're one of the most under represented alliances whenever these discussions come up.
I think for overall power and influence, Goonswarm wins hands down.
In terms of a single alliance able to stand on it's own, I'm gonna go with Solar here simply due to their age in comparison to NC.
language barrier perhaps. EVoke is a german fed but at least they speak comprehensible English. The Ivans in Solar on the other hand is a real ditch to talk to.
They are too marginalised , Solar is like the Georgian corps in EVE , but 10x bigger. It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
Remnant Madeveda
Ixion Defence Systems Test Alliance Please Ignore
35
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Posted - 2012.10.07 13:34:00 -
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In b4 TEST and GOON become censored swear words on the EVE-O forums. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
223
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Posted - 2012.10.07 14:01:00 -
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Remnant Madeveda wrote:In b4 TEST and GOON become censored swear words on the EVE-O forums. ahhh, Goon's pet TEST alliance is here It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
AstraPardus
Lightspeed Enterprises Tactical Narcotics Team
1
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Posted - 2012.10.07 14:52:00 -
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While every podbaby knows who the big boys are, I would say that the alliance which gets my consideration would be PL.
I noticed that not many people are talking about them. My observation is that they have the uncanny tendancy to change tides when they step into a conflict; for this I respect them. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
223
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Posted - 2012.10.07 14:57:00 -
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AstraPardus wrote:While every podbaby knows who the big boys are, I would say that the alliance which gets my consideration would be PL.
I noticed that not many people are talking about them. My observation is that they have the uncanny tendancy to change tides when they step into a conflict; for this I respect them.
for this I despise them, we don't need more back stabbers in EVE It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
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AstraPardus
Lightspeed Enterprises Tactical Narcotics Team
1
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Posted - 2012.10.07 15:10:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:AstraPardus wrote:While every podbaby knows who the big boys are, I would say that the alliance which gets my consideration would be PL.
I noticed that not many people are talking about them. My observation is that they have the uncanny tendancy to change tides when they step into a conflict; for this I respect them. for this I despise them, we don't need more back stabbers in EVE
Well, there is that...but EVE is loaded with backstabbers as it is. X3 |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
223
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Posted - 2012.10.07 15:18:00 -
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AstraPardus wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:AstraPardus wrote:While every podbaby knows who the big boys are, I would say that the alliance which gets my consideration would be PL.
I noticed that not many people are talking about them. My observation is that they have the uncanny tendancy to change tides when they step into a conflict; for this I respect them. for this I despise them, we don't need more back stabbers in EVE Well, there is that...but EVE is loaded with backstabbers as it is. X3
Thats why I'm with BricK Squad. Good , honest, laid back ,simple fun. It may not be the most powerful , but it has to be one of the most fun experience there is .
Nevertheless, I guess in the world of power struggle. The same as the real world , its dirty ,below the table business that wins war huh. Look at BoB, look at the fall of NC It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
AstraPardus
Lightspeed Enterprises Tactical Narcotics Team
1
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Posted - 2012.10.07 15:23:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:AstraPardus wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:AstraPardus wrote:While every podbaby knows who the big boys are, I would say that the alliance which gets my consideration would be PL.
I noticed that not many people are talking about them. My observation is that they have the uncanny tendancy to change tides when they step into a conflict; for this I respect them. for this I despise them, we don't need more back stabbers in EVE Well, there is that...but EVE is loaded with backstabbers as it is. X3 Thats why I'm with BricK Squad. Good , honest, laid back ,simple fun. It may not be the most powerful , but it has to be one of the most fun experience there is . Nevertheless, I guess in the world of power struggle. The same as the real world , its dirty ,below the table business that wins war huh. Look at BoB, look at the fall of NC
Yeah, fall of the NC...I think that failcascade really started after failure to take CR, which was a big loss for me.
But you're right, the one who is willing to cut the most throats is probably going to be the one on top in the end.
I enjoy being a good soldier and a helpful management official, no matter where I am. As long as I can do that, I'm happy.
Oh, and make lots of drugs... :3 |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1442
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Posted - 2012.10.07 15:39:00 -
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D-Mob wrote:
Goons have power because of what they USED to be. Goons have powernow because of the other corps in their Alliance, not the Goons themselves.
I watched the video on youtube of that Goon asking a question to the devs...
Did a lot to dwindle that notion in my head of the "Big Bad Goons"...lol.
Not to mention the Encyclopedia Dramatica article on the Goons if F'ing hilarious.
That said I root for the underdog.I prefer joining smaller groups and helping them grow. I'd like to see Red.Overlord make a comeback.
It's funny how when bittervets and inactive dudes return they are amazed at how much better things are now. I wasn't around back then but internally you are 100% wrong. . |
Hrothgar Nilsson
Black Core Federation Black Core Alliance
125
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Posted - 2012.10.07 15:40:00 -
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lanyaie wrote:Test alliance has the most space not goonswarm Solar has 380 systems b/w Solar Fleet and its renter and feeder alliances.
There's probably also around 70 systems that Solar claims but doesn't bother to put a TCU up unless they plan to rent it.
Test has 220 systems.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZTzA_xesrL8 |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
658
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Posted - 2012.10.07 16:21:00 -
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terzslave wrote:-A- has the most kills though..........
When you ***** on your own sides killmails when you start to lose: it's bound to happen. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
658
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Posted - 2012.10.07 16:23:00 -
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Ivy Romanova wrote:
Thats why I'm with BricK Squad. Good , honest, laid back ,simple fun. It may not be the most powerful , but it has to be one of the most fun experience there is .
Nevertheless, I guess in the world of power struggle. The same as the real world , its dirty ,below the table business that wins war huh. Look at BoB, look at the fall of NC
In the context of what you quoted, BricK has done it's fair share of back stabbing over the last couple of years. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
223
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Posted - 2012.10.07 16:26:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:
Thats why I'm with BricK Squad. Good , honest, laid back ,simple fun. It may not be the most powerful , but it has to be one of the most fun experience there is .
Nevertheless, I guess in the world of power struggle. The same as the real world , its dirty ,below the table business that wins war huh. Look at BoB, look at the fall of NC
In the context of what you quoted, BricK has done it's fair share of back stabbing over the last couple of years.
oh? Enlighten me It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
202
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Posted - 2012.10.07 17:04:00 -
[49] - Quote
Ivy Romanova wrote:
Thats why I'm with BricK Squad. Good , honest, laid back ,simple fun. It may not be the most powerful , but it has to be one of the most fun experience there is .
Nevertheless, I guess in the world of power struggle. The same as the real world , its dirty ,below the table business that wins war huh. Look at BoB, look at the fall of NC
Yes, EVE is just like the real world power struggle... Do not worry you are on the righteous side of conflict and the history books will judge you accordingly Ivy Romanova... You are a true hero of video games and an excellent political commentator.
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James Amril-Kesh
4S Corporation RAZOR Alliance
902
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Posted - 2012.10.07 17:55:00 -
[50] - Quote
I'm so tempted to make a joke about Solar power. http://themittani.com/features/local-problem A simple fix to the local intel problem |
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Dank Man
FinFleet Raiden.
137
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Posted - 2012.10.07 18:29:00 -
[51] - Quote
Is this a joke? everyone you listed are a bunch of carebears, this thread could be called, who has the most pilots that are willing to blindly follow a leader. And as the smug NC. bro said, evoke, solar, br1ck should be nowhere on the list anyways... (and probably not NC. as they couldnt do squat without evoke/ewoke and black legion propping up their numbers. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
223
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Posted - 2012.10.07 18:40:00 -
[52] - Quote
Dank Man wrote:Is this a joke? everyone you listed are a bunch of carebears, this thread could be called, who has the most pilots that are willing to blindly follow a leader. And as the smug NC. bro said, evoke, solar, br1ck should be nowhere on the list anyways... (and probably not NC. as they couldnt do squat without evoke/ewoke and black legion propping up their numbers.
CFC , NCDOT and the lot could easily crush Raiden .
The moment you stop respecting your adversaries mark your downfall. Who would have thought BoB would lose to a tiny band of newbies that proved to be one of the most powerful force in New Eden, rivaling the empires themselves?
It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
224
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Posted - 2012.10.08 03:15:00 -
[53] - Quote
No More Heroes wrote:D-Mob wrote:
Goons have power because of what they USED to be. Goons have powernow because of the other corps in their Alliance, not the Goons themselves.
I watched the video on youtube of that Goon asking a question to the devs...
Did a lot to dwindle that notion in my head of the "Big Bad Goons"...lol.
Not to mention the Encyclopedia Dramatica article on the Goons if F'ing hilarious.
That said I root for the underdog.I prefer joining smaller groups and helping them grow. I'd like to see Red.Overlord make a comeback.
It's funny how when bittervets and inactive dudes return they are amazed at how much better things are now. I wasn't around back then but internally you are 100% wrong.
better , but also a lot less chaotic and fun. It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
Snot Shot
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
392
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Posted - 2012.10.08 04:51:00 -
[54] - Quote
tbh this whole thread was flawed from the start since theres no such thing as the MOST powerful Alliance of EVE anymore. Your heading should be MOST powerfull Coalition in EVE.......and at this point there are only a few.
Chuckle **** Coalition = PL/GSF/RDN/SMA/TEST/GENTS/RZR/FA/EXE/FCON/AIF/LAWN/TNT and pets for roughly 39,000 pilots
Southern Coalition = A/ROL/ENGRE ? for about 8,000 pilots
RUS Renter Coalition = SOLAR/PETs ? for about 4,000 pilots
PVP Coalition = BL/Nulli/NCDot/IRC/401k/EV0KE ? for about 9,000 pilots
For the most part thats about how things are grouped at this point with the active wars going on but feel free to add some I may be missing.
Basically you got most of the curb stomped Alliances of null sec huddled around GSF for safety. PL is off performing charity in the South teaching TEST how to ride bikes. DOTBros are PVP'ing like mad men. SOLAR is working towards being the best renters in 0.0.
So as far as who the MOST powerfull Coalition goes? Are we judging that on how much space they own? How many fleets the dunk on? How much TECH they have? Capital Ship production?...... . #tweetfleet @Snot_Shot-á - GÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything" - Snot Shot - .....Yeah I'm a killin machine..... http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=50753
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Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
224
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Posted - 2012.10.08 04:54:00 -
[55] - Quote
Snot Shot wrote:tbh this whole thread was flawed from the start since theres no such thing as the MOST powerful Alliance of EVE anymore. Your heading should be MOST powerfull Coalition in EVE.......and at this point there are only a few. Chuckle **** Coalition = PL/GSF/RDN/SMA/TEST/GENTS/RZR/FA/EXE/FCON/AIF/LAWN/TNT and pets for roughly 39,000 pilots Southern Coalition = A/ROL/ENGRE ? for about 8,000 pilots RUS Renter Coalition = SOLAR/PETs ? for about 4,000 pilots PVP Coalition = BL/Nulli/NCDot/IRC/401k/EV0KE ? for about 9,000 pilots For the most part thats about how things are grouped at this point with the active wars going on but feel free to add some I may be missing. Basically you got most of the curb stomped Alliances of null sec huddled around GSF for safety. PL is off performing charity in the South teaching TEST how to ride bikes. DOTBros are PVP'ing like mad men. SOLAR is working towards being the best renters in 0.0. So as far as who the MOST powerfull Coalition goes? Are we judging that on how much space they own? How many fleets the dunk on? How much TECH they have? Capital Ship production?...... .
Generally speaking. Judging by a combination of Military Capability , Stability and ability for their Industrial support to flex their muscles , player and corp cohesion , and FC quality along with fighter experience. It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
Snot Shot
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
392
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Posted - 2012.10.08 05:18:00 -
[56] - Quote
Ivy Romanova wrote:Dank Man wrote:Is this a joke? everyone you listed are a bunch of carebears, this thread could be called, who has the most pilots that are willing to blindly follow a leader. And as the smug NC. bro said, evoke, solar, br1ck should be nowhere on the list anyways... (and probably not NC. as they couldnt do squat without evoke/ewoke and black legion propping up their numbers. CFC , NCDOT and the lot could easily crush Raiden . The moment you stop respecting your adversaries mark your downfall. Who would have thought BoB would lose to a tiny band of newbies that proved to be one of the most powerful force in New Eden, rivaling the empires themselves? Ivy It's a shame these threads get dumped in here since you were clearly splashing around in the shallow end of Null Sec politics before the Mod threw you out here without a floatation device.. . #tweetfleet @Snot_Shot-á - GÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything" - Snot Shot - .....Yeah I'm a killin machine..... http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=50753
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Snot Shot
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
392
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Posted - 2012.10.08 05:31:00 -
[57] - Quote
Ivy Romanova wrote:Snot Shot wrote:tbh this whole thread was flawed from the start since theres no such thing as the MOST powerful Alliance of EVE anymore. Your heading should be MOST powerfull Coalition in EVE.......and at this point there are only a few. Chuckle **** Coalition = PL/GSF/RDN/SMA/TEST/GENTS/RZR/FA/EXE/FCON/AIF/LAWN/TNT and pets for roughly 39,000 pilots Southern Coalition = A/ROL/ENGRE ? for about 8,000 pilots RUS Renter Coalition = SOLAR/PETs ? for about 4,000 pilots PVP Coalition = BL/Nulli/NCDot/IRC/401k/EV0KE ? for about 9,000 pilots For the most part thats about how things are grouped at this point with the active wars going on but feel free to add some I may be missing. Basically you got most of the curb stomped Alliances of null sec huddled around GSF for safety. PL is off performing charity in the South teaching TEST how to ride bikes. DOTBros are PVP'ing like mad men. SOLAR is working towards being the best renters in 0.0. So as far as who the MOST powerfull Coalition goes? Are we judging that on how much space they own? How many fleets the dunk on? How much TECH they have? Capital Ship production?...... . Generally speaking. Judging by a combination of Military Capability , Stability and ability for their Industrial support to flex their muscles , player and corp cohesion , and FC quality along with fighter experience. So are we talking about Coaltions now and not Alliances anymore? Once you start talking Coalitions, it leans into comparing apples to oranges to potatos to coconuts etc. since they are all basically looking for different things out in null sec.
CFC = Farms and Fields for everyone!
SoCo = To be the worst politicians
RUS = Rental Empire and not to make CFC angry
PvP = PVP
You get the gist of it maybe...... . #tweetfleet @Snot_Shot-á - GÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything" - Snot Shot - .....Yeah I'm a killin machine..... http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=50753
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Xolve
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
1152
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Posted - 2012.10.08 05:38:00 -
[58] - Quote
Snot Shot wrote:So are we talking about Coaltions now and not Alliances anymore? Once you start talking Coalitions, it leans into comparing apples to oranges to potatos to coconuts etc. since they are all basically looking for different things out in null sec. CFC = Farms and Fields for everyone! SoCo = To be the worst politicians RUS = Rental Empire and not to make CFC angry PvP = PVP You get the gist of it maybe...... .
Probably the best post you've ever made. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
113
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Posted - 2012.10.08 09:51:00 -
[59] - Quote
Dank Man wrote:Is this a joke? everyone you listed are a bunch of carebears, this thread could be called, who has the most pilots that are willing to blindly follow a leader. And as the smug NC. bro said, evoke, solar, br1ck should be nowhere on the list anyways... (and probably not NC. as they couldnt do squat without evoke/ewoke and black legion propping up their numbers.
I'll tell you who else should be no-where on the list: Raiden. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
224
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Posted - 2012.10.08 11:46:00 -
[60] - Quote
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Dank Man wrote:Is this a joke? everyone you listed are a bunch of carebears, this thread could be called, who has the most pilots that are willing to blindly follow a leader. And as the smug NC. bro said, evoke, solar, br1ck should be nowhere on the list anyways... (and probably not NC. as they couldnt do squat without evoke/ewoke and black legion propping up their numbers. I'll tell you who else should be no-where on the list: Raiden.
Its a small timer corp anyway. But I had to say it in a more ...crafty manner It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
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Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
224
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Posted - 2012.10.08 11:47:00 -
[61] - Quote
Snot Shot wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:Dank Man wrote:Is this a joke? everyone you listed are a bunch of carebears, this thread could be called, who has the most pilots that are willing to blindly follow a leader. And as the smug NC. bro said, evoke, solar, br1ck should be nowhere on the list anyways... (and probably not NC. as they couldnt do squat without evoke/ewoke and black legion propping up their numbers. CFC , NCDOT and the lot could easily crush Raiden . The moment you stop respecting your adversaries mark your downfall. Who would have thought BoB would lose to a tiny band of newbies that proved to be one of the most powerful force in New Eden, rivaling the empires themselves? Ivy It's a shame these threads get dumped in here since you were clearly splashing around in the shallow end of Null Sec politics before the Mod threw you out here without a floatation device.. .
yeah... I just started hanging around in null for a few weeks. So... I'm pretty green on this stuff. Making judgement from what I heard on the alliance chat mostly. It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
118
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Posted - 2012.10.08 12:18:00 -
[62] - Quote
Ivy Romanova wrote:
yeah... I just started hanging around in null for a few weeks. So... I'm pretty green on this stuff. Making judgement from what I heard on the alliance chat mostly.
Fact is that no alliance can claim to not have a twisted view of other alliances. The war in the North is the perfect example of this. NCDot claim "they didn't want the sov anyway" and talk a lot about how when the war is over and the CFC have Tribute that NCDot will go back to Elite PvP ~WulfPax~ and strike at their enemy from NPC Null and everyone will be happy and no-one will fail cascade. The CFC on the other hand, which for full disclosure I am a member of, mocks them mercilessly for it as we think 9 times out of 10 alliances go to NPC Null to die.
NCDot really believe their version, CFC members really believe theirs. I'd like to think that I believe NCDot wont survive being kicked out of Null because of impartial factual logic, but the fact is I'm bound to be influenced by the people I speak to. Another example being that I have never even dealt with say Solar Fleet. They could be mega powerful but I wont know that as we aren't near them (yet h0 h0).
Realistically the only alliance in game that has consistently projected it's influence in any meaningful manner over the years and is still around is Goonswarm. That's nothing to do with numbers or anything like that, I think it's do to intelligent and focused individuals coming up with creative ways to influence events. I personally don't see that sort of metagaming creativity from anyone else. They may have more creative FCs or more creative Industrial plans etc, but when it comes to bending the tools and the rules to achieve what you want IMO Goonswarm comes out on top. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
224
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Posted - 2012.10.08 12:52:00 -
[63] - Quote
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:
yeah... I just started hanging around in null for a few weeks. So... I'm pretty green on this stuff. Making judgement from what I heard on the alliance chat mostly.
Fact is that no alliance can claim to not have a twisted view of other alliances. The war in the North is the perfect example of this. NCDot claim "they didn't want the sov anyway" and talk a lot about how when the war is over and the CFC have Tribute that NCDot will go back to Elite PvP ~WulfPax~ and strike at their enemy from NPC Null and everyone will be happy and no-one will fail cascade. The CFC on the other hand, which for full disclosure I am a member of, mocks them mercilessly for it as we think 9 times out of 10 alliances go to NPC Null to die. NCDot really believe their version, CFC members really believe theirs. I'd like to think that I believe NCDot wont survive being kicked out of Null because of impartial factual logic, but the fact is I'm bound to be influenced by the people I speak to. Another example being that I have never even dealt with say Solar Fleet. They could be mega powerful but I wont know that as we aren't near them (yet h0 h0). Realistically the only alliance in game that has consistently projected it's influence in any meaningful manner over the years and is still around is Goonswarm. That's nothing to do with numbers or anything like that, I think it's do to intelligent and focused individuals coming up with creative ways to influence events. I personally don't see that sort of metagaming creativity from anyone else. They may have more creative FCs or more creative Industrial plans etc, but when it comes to bending the tools and the rules to achieve what you want IMO Goonswarm comes out on top.
I don't really agree with their no prisoner podding strategy tho.
Not to mention the massive number of recruitment scammers . It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
124
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Posted - 2012.10.08 16:15:00 -
[64] - Quote
Ivy Romanova wrote:
I don't really agree with their no prisoner podding strategy tho.
Not to mention the massive number of recruitment scammers .
I'll be honest I haven't fought anyone else in Null Sec who hasn't tried to pod me if they get the chance. If anything the Goons would be less bothered about podding you as they don't care about Killboard stats, and to shoot a pod wastes at least 1 shot you could use on someone else.
In terms of the scammers all I can say is vOv. A recruitment scammer only manages to scam the rich and stupid, for example google "goonswarm recruitment" and you see this on the first link:
Quote:If you gave isk to join GoonWaffe then you were scammed and you're S**t out of luck.
Likewise the easiest people to scam are the ones who really want to join Goonswarm, which generally know who they are. Even 5 minutes of research shows they only accept people from the Somethnig Awful forums.
While scamming isn't ~e-honourable~ you can't scam newbies (because they have nothing to scam) and you can't scam the poor (as they have no money), which just leaves the rich and the stupid. Let's face it, losing 200-500 mil in a recruitment scam is basically the same as losing a decent fitted T2 ship. |
Suitonia
Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance
106
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Posted - 2012.10.08 19:44:00 -
[65] - Quote
Pure Alliance |
Ur235
Aura of Darkness Nulli Secunda
39
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Posted - 2012.10.08 20:48:00 -
[66] - Quote
Mallak Azaria wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:NCDOT has the MOST Supercaps Explain why they have trouble fielding more than 20?
Not true DotBros fielded 63 supers today against Solar, not Nulli though because of course we all know Nulli has no supers
Anyway back on topic best alliance? Negative Ten alliance for sure... no one can gatecamp Rancer quit like those hardcore pro pvpers, its fair to say they are the pinnacle of pvp prowess hmm |
Snot Shot
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
396
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Posted - 2012.10.09 00:19:00 -
[67] - Quote
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:
yeah... I just started hanging around in null for a few weeks. So... I'm pretty green on this stuff. Making judgement from what I heard on the alliance chat mostly.
Fact is that no alliance can claim to not have a twisted view of other alliances. The war in the North is the perfect example of this. NCDot claim "they didn't want the sov anyway" and talk a lot about how when the war is over and the CFC have Tribute that NCDot will go back to Elite PvP ~WulfPax~ and strike at their enemy from NPC Null and everyone will be happy and no-one will fail cascade. The CFC on the other hand, which for full disclosure I am a member of, mocks them mercilessly for it as we think 9 times out of 10 alliances go to NPC Null to die. NCDot really believe their version, CFC members really believe theirs. I'd like to think that I believe NCDot wont survive being kicked out of Null because of impartial factual logic, but the fact is I'm bound to be influenced by the people I speak to. Another example being that I have never even dealt with say Solar Fleet. They could be mega powerful but I wont know that as we aren't near them (yet h0 h0). Realistically the only alliance in game that has consistently projected it's influence in any meaningful manner over the years and is still around is Goonswarm. That's nothing to do with numbers or anything like that, I think it's do to intelligent and focused individuals coming up with creative ways to influence events. I personally don't see that sort of metagaming creativity from anyone else. They may have more creative FCs or more creative Industrial plans etc, but when it comes to bending the tools and the rules to achieve what you want IMO Goonswarm comes out on top. Well its nice to see you confirm that you actually know very little about whats going on out there in 0.0 yet willing to come here and tell us what propaganda your being fed up there. I guess if your going to keep kids logging in everyday to shoot structures for months at a time, they have to believe someone actually cares about it....
As far as Goons consitently projecting power goes..are you talking about Goonies MK1 or Goonies MK2?.... . #tweetfleet @Snot_Shot-á - GÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything" - Snot Shot - .....Yeah I'm a killin machine..... http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=50753
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AstraPardus
Lightspeed Enterprises Tactical Narcotics Team
1
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Posted - 2012.10.09 03:45:00 -
[68] - Quote
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
9 times out of 10 alliances go to NPC Null to die.
Triumvirate, anyone?
I did enjoy stomping them in Venal... :3 |
Aaewen Hrothgarson
Jelly Baby Corporation Fidelas Constans
21
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Posted - 2012.10.09 07:09:00 -
[69] - Quote
Ivy Romanova wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:
yeah... I just started hanging around in null for a few weeks. So... I'm pretty green on this stuff. Making judgement from what I heard on the alliance chat mostly.
Fact is that no alliance can claim to not have a twisted view of other alliances. The war in the North is the perfect example of this. NCDot claim "they didn't want the sov anyway" and talk a lot about how when the war is over and the CFC have Tribute that NCDot will go back to Elite PvP ~WulfPax~ and strike at their enemy from NPC Null and everyone will be happy and no-one will fail cascade. The CFC on the other hand, which for full disclosure I am a member of, mocks them mercilessly for it as we think 9 times out of 10 alliances go to NPC Null to die. NCDot really believe their version, CFC members really believe theirs. I'd like to think that I believe NCDot wont survive being kicked out of Null because of impartial factual logic, but the fact is I'm bound to be influenced by the people I speak to. Another example being that I have never even dealt with say Solar Fleet. They could be mega powerful but I wont know that as we aren't near them (yet h0 h0). Realistically the only alliance in game that has consistently projected it's influence in any meaningful manner over the years and is still around is Goonswarm. That's nothing to do with numbers or anything like that, I think it's do to intelligent and focused individuals coming up with creative ways to influence events. I personally don't see that sort of metagaming creativity from anyone else. They may have more creative FCs or more creative Industrial plans etc, but when it comes to bending the tools and the rules to achieve what you want IMO Goonswarm comes out on top. I don't really agree with their no prisoner podding strategy tho. Not to mention the massive number of recruitment scammers .
Podding is a means to an end. Usually CFC FC's demand that we do not pod (because against an alliance that has still some fighting spirit, that only speeds up reshipping). It may be demoralizing or lead enemy FC's to loose temper* though.
And I bet there are more people complaining about Goon's recruitment scammers then there are actually scammers. Plus, what do you think about people who want to BUY themselves into a corporation?
*: From their destroyed implants one can deduct that they think themselves "untouchable" - always a pleasure to prove them wrong.
On Topic: "Best alliance" shifts all the time. I personally think the most beneficial for EvE are these who care for and educate new players: Eve-U, RvB, Agony (if they still run courses), GSF and any alliance who has a decent new player programme (this list is of course NOT complete). |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
224
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Posted - 2012.10.09 08:38:00 -
[70] - Quote
Aaewen Hrothgarson wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:
yeah... I just started hanging around in null for a few weeks. So... I'm pretty green on this stuff. Making judgement from what I heard on the alliance chat mostly.
Fact is that no alliance can claim to not have a twisted view of other alliances. The war in the North is the perfect example of this. NCDot claim "they didn't want the sov anyway" and talk a lot about how when the war is over and the CFC have Tribute that NCDot will go back to Elite PvP ~WulfPax~ and strike at their enemy from NPC Null and everyone will be happy and no-one will fail cascade. The CFC on the other hand, which for full disclosure I am a member of, mocks them mercilessly for it as we think 9 times out of 10 alliances go to NPC Null to die. NCDot really believe their version, CFC members really believe theirs. I'd like to think that I believe NCDot wont survive being kicked out of Null because of impartial factual logic, but the fact is I'm bound to be influenced by the people I speak to. Another example being that I have never even dealt with say Solar Fleet. They could be mega powerful but I wont know that as we aren't near them (yet h0 h0). Realistically the only alliance in game that has consistently projected it's influence in any meaningful manner over the years and is still around is Goonswarm. That's nothing to do with numbers or anything like that, I think it's do to intelligent and focused individuals coming up with creative ways to influence events. I personally don't see that sort of metagaming creativity from anyone else. They may have more creative FCs or more creative Industrial plans etc, but when it comes to bending the tools and the rules to achieve what you want IMO Goonswarm comes out on top. I don't really agree with their no prisoner podding strategy tho. Not to mention the massive number of recruitment scammers . Podding is a means to an end. Usually CFC FC's demand that we do not pod (because against an alliance that has still some fighting spirit, that only speeds up reshipping). It may be demoralizing or lead enemy FC's to loose temper* though. And I bet there are more people complaining about Goon's recruitment scammers then there are actually scammers. Plus, what do you think about people who want to BUY themselves into a corporation? *: From their destroyed implants one can deduct that they think themselves "untouchable" - always a pleasure to prove them wrong. On Topic: "Best alliance" shifts all the time. I personally think the most beneficial for EvE are these who care for and educate new players: Eve-U, RvB, Agony (if they still run courses), GSF and any alliance who has a decent new player programme (this list is of course NOT complete). And imho investing in the future is the best way to stay around for long.
quit being a humanitarian. Its about honor , family, power and wealth of nations. When we judge an alliance by those standards. EVE-U , RvB and Agony is NOWHERE near the list. It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
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Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Exhale.
151
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Posted - 2012.10.09 09:11:00 -
[71] - Quote
Wormholers clearly own New Eden...
~Boredom Breeds Direction~ |
Aaewen Hrothgarson
Jelly Baby Corporation Fidelas Constans
21
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Posted - 2012.10.09 10:50:00 -
[72] - Quote
Ivy Romanova wrote:Aaewen Hrothgarson wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:
yeah... I just started hanging around in null for a few weeks. So... I'm pretty green on this stuff. Making judgement from what I heard on the alliance chat mostly.
Fact is that no alliance can claim to not have a twisted view of other alliances. The war in the North is the perfect example of this. NCDot claim "they didn't want the sov anyway" and talk a lot about how when the war is over and the CFC have Tribute that NCDot will go back to Elite PvP ~WulfPax~ and strike at their enemy from NPC Null and everyone will be happy and no-one will fail cascade. The CFC on the other hand, which for full disclosure I am a member of, mocks them mercilessly for it as we think 9 times out of 10 alliances go to NPC Null to die. NCDot really believe their version, CFC members really believe theirs. I'd like to think that I believe NCDot wont survive being kicked out of Null because of impartial factual logic, but the fact is I'm bound to be influenced by the people I speak to. Another example being that I have never even dealt with say Solar Fleet. They could be mega powerful but I wont know that as we aren't near them (yet h0 h0). Realistically the only alliance in game that has consistently projected it's influence in any meaningful manner over the years and is still around is Goonswarm. That's nothing to do with numbers or anything like that, I think it's do to intelligent and focused individuals coming up with creative ways to influence events. I personally don't see that sort of metagaming creativity from anyone else. They may have more creative FCs or more creative Industrial plans etc, but when it comes to bending the tools and the rules to achieve what you want IMO Goonswarm comes out on top. I don't really agree with their no prisoner podding strategy tho. Not to mention the massive number of recruitment scammers . Podding is a means to an end. Usually CFC FC's demand that we do not pod (because against an alliance that has still some fighting spirit, that only speeds up reshipping). It may be demoralizing or lead enemy FC's to loose temper* though. And I bet there are more people complaining about Goon's recruitment scammers then there are actually scammers. Plus, what do you think about people who want to BUY themselves into a corporation? *: From their destroyed implants one can deduct that they think themselves "untouchable" - always a pleasure to prove them wrong. On Topic: "Best alliance" shifts all the time. I personally think the most beneficial for EvE are these who care for and educate new players: Eve-U, RvB, Agony (if they still run courses), GSF and any alliance who has a decent new player programme (this list is of course NOT complete). And imho investing in the future is the best way to stay around for long. quit being a humanitarian. Its about honor , family, power and wealth of nations. When we judge an alliance by those standards. EVE-U , RvB and Agony is NOWHERE near the list.
You have to sow to harvest. Those who tend to newbs NOW will be influental in the future. Who gives a damn about which alliance whelped/killed/took sovereignity YESTERDAY? Can you tell out of your own memory who was "most powerful" a year ago? |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
224
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Posted - 2012.10.09 10:57:00 -
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I wasn't here a year ago. And by the looks of it , I don't think any one would come to the aid of RvB or EVE-Uni when they are being forced into submission during a time of war. People will mourn, but actually ,how many of them will come out and put themselves between the charging train on the track? I doubt if you'll want to know It is not these well-fed long-haired men that I fear, but the pale and the hungry-looking.
Julius Caesar |
Thrace Lucre
Tribuo Quod Victum The AirShip Pirates
1
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Posted - 2012.10.09 17:40:00 -
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I'm actually surprised noone's mentioned those shadowy overlords whom control an extremely large portion of WH space, TALOCAN. Not many people know anything about them, but most speculate they have power rivalling CFC... though it's all locked up inside their cozy C5s and C6s. Just a thought. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
224
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Posted - 2012.10.09 17:49:00 -
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Thrace Lucre wrote:I'm actually surprised noone's mentioned those shadowy overlords whom control an extremely large portion of WH space, TALOCAN. Not many people know anything about them, but most speculate they have power rivalling CFC... though it's all locked up inside their cozy C5s and C6s. Just a thought.
I doubt their supercaps inside the WH can get out tho lol It is forbidden to kill. Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire-á |
Xolve
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
1153
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Posted - 2012.10.09 18:21:00 -
[76] - Quote
Thrace Lucre wrote:I'm actually surprised noone's mentioned those shadowy overlords whom control an extremely large portion of WH space, TALOCAN.
There are corps in the CFC bigger than them. Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Ivy Romanova
All Your Machariel Belong to Ham Industrial Technonauts
224
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Posted - 2012.10.09 18:29:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Thrace Lucre wrote:I'm actually surprised noone's mentioned those shadowy overlords whom control an extremely large portion of WH space, TALOCAN. There are corps in the CFC bigger than them.
but we are talking about wealth and military capability tho. Over the years ,they've remained undisturbed and unchallenged in those realms. Giving them plenty of times to stockpile arms , train for pvp and expand. They are the real world equivalent of Switzerland . Often underestimated , but even the Americans feared them during WWII. They shot down WHOEVER enter their space , allied or otherwise. Impossible to invade due to their terrain advantage.
If they remains politically stable over the years , they'll be the safe haven for those who lost all in New Eden.
It is forbidden to kill. Therefore all murderers are punished unless they kill in large numbers and to the sound of trumpets.
Voltaire-á |
Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Exhale.
151
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Posted - 2012.10.09 19:39:00 -
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Thrace Lucre wrote:I'm actually surprised noone's mentioned those shadowy overlords whom control an extremely large portion of WH space, TALOCAN. Not many people know anything about them, but most speculate they have power rivalling CFC... though it's all locked up inside their cozy C5s and C6s. Just a thought.
Look at post #71 ;) ~Boredom Breeds Direction~ |
Xolve
Amok. Goonswarm Federation
1153
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Posted - 2012.10.09 22:06:00 -
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Proclus Diadochu wrote:Thrace Lucre wrote:I'm actually surprised noone's mentioned those shadowy overlords whom control an extremely large portion of WH space, TALOCAN. Not many people know anything about them, but most speculate they have power rivalling CFC... though it's all locked up inside their cozy C5s and C6s. Just a thought. Look at post #71 ;)
Gotta go somewhere when your previous alliance got it's **** pushed in.
I miss the victory speeches (from before NEM3SIS ran screaming from Delve). Inappropriate signature removed. Navigator. |
Christopher AET
Segmentum Solar Intrepid Crossing
172
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Posted - 2012.10.10 00:21:00 -
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Gary Bell wrote:I think IRC falls more on the side of stupid.. LOL they are really bad and just dont accept it and go rent space. They are like the 0.0 Punching bag
Please tell me more about how you guys as a coalition formed up to stop us killing a moongoo POS in your space then came into our space with a revenge fleet and annihilated us there......wait,
that's the opposite of what happened. Silly me.
I drain ducks of their moisture for sustenance. |
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Proclus Diadochu
Obstergo Exhale.
155
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Posted - 2012.10.10 00:23:00 -
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Xolve wrote:Proclus Diadochu wrote:Thrace Lucre wrote:I'm actually surprised noone's mentioned those shadowy overlords whom control an extremely large portion of WH space, TALOCAN. Not many people know anything about them, but most speculate they have power rivalling CFC... though it's all locked up inside their cozy C5s and C6s. Just a thought. Look at post #71 ;) Gotta go somewhere when your previous alliance got it's **** pushed in. I miss the victory speeches (from before NEM3SIS ran screaming from Delve).
Adorable pub... Still can't move on. ~Boredom Breeds Direction~ |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
159
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Posted - 2012.10.10 10:08:00 -
[82] - Quote
Ivy Romanova wrote:I wasn't here a year ago. And by the looks of it , I don't think any one would come to the aid of RvB or EVE-Uni when they are being forced into submission during a time of war. People will mourn, but actually ,how many of them will come out and put themselves between the charging train on the track? I doubt if you'll want to know
If it was my call and some asshat had declared war on RvB I'd weigh in on RvB's side. Not that they'd need it mind, some of the best PvPers have alts in RvB and they have some pretty decent "non-alt" players. They've shown in the past that they can easily punch a lot harder then people think were they to need to join forces. |
Random Majere
Epsilon Lyr Nulli Secunda
16
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Posted - 2012.10.10 12:50:00 -
[83] - Quote
A stronger coalition is when it sees a fleet of Maels that out number is own fleet of Ishtars 2 to 1, not engage them. |
Nimrod vanHall
Martyr's Vengence Test Alliance Please Ignore
5
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Posted - 2012.10.11 12:26:00 -
[84] - Quote
Thrace Lucre wrote:I'm actually surprised noone's mentioned those shadowy overlords whom control an extremely large portion of WH space, TALOCAN. Not many people know anything about them, but most speculate they have power rivalling CFC... though it's all locked up inside their cozy C5s and C6s. Just a thought.
Talocan has no power projection whatever. Hell they are not even feared by other C5/C6 dwellers |
Neotin Nahrain
The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement
30
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Posted - 2012.10.16 08:58:00 -
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Ephenos wrote:
And I am lumping several other alliances in with NCdot here, our bros in Black Legion, Nulli, and Gypsy, <3 you all. But on a battle hardened player for player basis? NCdot.
I wouldn't add your bros from black legion here. Sorry m8t. Not very smart move from your leadership... http://themittani.com/news/ncdot-leadership-conflict-puts-dotbros-risk |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
193
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Posted - 2012.10.16 09:27:00 -
[86] - Quote
Neotin Nahrain wrote:Ephenos wrote:
And I am lumping several other alliances in with NCdot here, our bros in Black Legion, Nulli, and Gypsy, <3 you all. But on a battle hardened player for player basis? NCdot.
I wouldn't add your bros from black legion here. Sorry m8t. Not very smart move from your leadership... http://themittani.com/news/ncdot-leadership-conflict-puts-dotbros-risk
Good call. |
Pyro Zafrire
Godless Horizon. WHY so Seri0Us
0
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Posted - 2012.10.16 14:03:00 -
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IAC forever! |
Random Majere
Epsilon Lyr Nulli Secunda
18
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Posted - 2012.10.16 16:04:00 -
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Neotin Nahrain wrote:Ephenos wrote:
And I am lumping several other alliances in with NCdot here, our bros in Black Legion, Nulli, and Gypsy, <3 you all. But on a battle hardened player for player basis? NCdot.
I wouldn't add your bros from black legion here. Sorry m8t. Not very smart move from your leadership... http://themittani.com/news/ncdot-leadership-conflict-puts-dotbros-risk
You should then start pushing in Tribute!!
Do you need encouragement?
Come on Goons!! You can do it!! Don`t give up!! Almost there!!
HARDER!! HARDER!! |
Thrace Lucre
Dropbear Preservation Society Test Friends Please Ignore
1
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Posted - 2012.10.17 01:28:00 -
[89] - Quote
Nimrod vanHall wrote:Thrace Lucre wrote:I'm actually surprised noone's mentioned those shadowy overlords whom control an extremely large portion of WH space, TALOCAN. Not many people know anything about them, but most speculate they have power rivalling CFC... though it's all locked up inside their cozy C5s and C6s. Just a thought. Talocan has no power projection whatever. Hell they are not even feared by other C5/C6 dwellers
mmm... they've managed to garner a lot of hate for themselves from those whom I've heard speak about them. While it may be true that they cannot project their power, that may be more due to where they're based rather then what assets they have.
The point I was trying to put forward is that wormhole dwellers should also be counted within this discussion. They may not have as much in the way of physical assets that CFC or large nullsec entities possess... but in terms of liquid assets, wormhole entities are said to be quite rich. |
Aragoni
Saerimnir New Eden Research.
21
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Posted - 2012.10.17 06:41:00 -
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Uh... Is there really a debate on this? The most powerful alliance is obviously Band Of Brothers. |
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Conius's LoveMuffin
Kihtaled Manufacturing Inc
2
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Posted - 2012.10.17 10:24:00 -
[91] - Quote
IRC <3 |
Neotin Nahrain
The Praxis Initiative Gentlemen's Agreement
31
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Posted - 2012.10.18 12:55:00 -
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Random Majere wrote:You should then start pushing in Tribute!! Do you need encouragement? Come on Goons!! You can do it!! Don`t give up!! Almost there!! HARDER!! HARDER!!
I am sure we can continue without encouragement, question is - can you stop us ? |
Snot Shot
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
402
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Posted - 2012.10.18 13:32:00 -
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Neotin Nahrain wrote:Random Majere wrote:You should then start pushing in Tribute!! Do you need encouragement? Come on Goons!! You can do it!! Don`t give up!! Almost there!! HARDER!! HARDER!! I am sure we can continue without encouragement, question is - can you stop us ? IGÇÖm pretty sure NCDot never thought they were going to stop Goonies from making the CFC sheep accomplish the task, only that you would not take it as easy as you proclaimed. YouGÇÖre coming up on 4 months now having told everyone that you would GÇ£steam rollGÇ¥ TributeGǪGǪGǪeven got so confident that Goons said Vale Of The Silent would be nextGǪ.
Now youGÇÖve only managed to take 9 of the 28 stations in almost 4 monthsGǪ.. And yesterday The Martini eluded to the fact he was trying to wiggle out of having to go after Vale after saying he was going to make you CFC sheep chew on that nextGǪGǪ..thatGÇÖs about 35 stations excluding Ev0kes SOV (45 if you have to take those). SOLAR is mired down with Gypsy Band and others in the east so, although BL left, that now takes a lot more pressure off DOTbros to laugh at you trying to grind SOV and flip flop stations for weeks to comeGǪ
I could see Goonies being butt hurt over NCDot breaking the OTEC agreement and simply taking all their moons for it. But claiming they were going to GÇ£wipe NCDot off the SOV mapGÇ¥ because of it did none of the CFC line members any favors. Goons condemned you to fleeting up for almost 4 months to grind structures in a Region the defender couldnGÇÖt care less about, didnGÇÖt have to grind to get themselves, and are getting what they want out of it as your on station 9 of 28GǪ..
Now youGÇÖre stuck having to defend Goonies GÇ£E hounureGÇ¥ because they wanted to GÇ£teach NCDot a lessonGÇ¥GǪGǪGǪ.when CFC could have simply just taken the TECH moons and not wasted time on grinding SOV all these months. MeanwhileGǪGǪ..The Martini is hoping everyone will forget he said you would take Vale alsoGǪGǪGǪ
Did you listen to the TS recording of The Martini belittling the CFC AUTZ FCGÇÖs and telling them to make every attempt to be GÇ£more of a jerkGÇ¥ to the DOT AUTZ guys?.......epic recordingGǪ .
#tweetfleet @Snot_Shot-á - GÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything" - Snot Shot - .....Yeah I'm a killin machine..... http://eve-kill.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=50753
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
218
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Posted - 2012.10.18 16:17:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:GǪGǪGǪ. GǪ.. GǪGǪ.GǪ GǪ. .GǪ GǪGǪ.GǪGǪ..GǪGǪGǪ ......GǪ .
I summarised your post for you. |
Xorth Adimus
Blackwater USA Inc. Against ALL Authorities
20
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Posted - 2012.10.18 20:00:00 -
[95] - Quote
Most alliances don't mean anything in EVE.
Its power blocks and coalitions and who's balls you lick.
The list of strong truly independent alliances that can or chose to act alone is very very short.
If you had to say best alliance in terms of PVP activity and achievement, organisation and fierce independence I would have to say -A- but many Alliances in massive coalition blobs would take offence at that. |
Scientessa
Killing is Business Tribal Band
5
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Posted - 2012.10.20 06:05:00 -
[96] - Quote
Xorth Adimus wrote:Most alliances don't mean anything in EVE.
Its power blocks and coalitions and who's balls you lick.
The list of strong truly independent alliances that can or chose to act alone is very very short.
If you had to say best alliance in terms of PVP activity and achievement, organisation and fierce independence I would have to say -A- but many Alliances in massive coalition blobs would take offence at that.
That is the funniest joke i have heard all day..
STAND DOWN! |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
225
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Posted - 2012.10.20 14:35:00 -
[97] - Quote
Xorth Adimus wrote:
If you had to say best alliance in terms of PVP activity and achievement, organisation and fierce independence I would have to say -A- but many Alliances in massive coalition blobs would take offence at that.
Looks like the brainwashing is stronger then I thought in -A-, kudos to their leadership.
Please don't confuse "fierce independence" with "treats all your allies like crap so they abandon you". |
StarFleetCommander
V0LTA Verge of Collapse
38
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Posted - 2012.10.20 14:56:00 -
[98] - Quote
Verge Of Collapse - 305 Members Sov - 0 |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
690
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Posted - 2012.10.21 04:33:00 -
[99] - Quote
Xorth Adimus wrote:Most alliances don't mean anything in EVE.
Its power blocks and coalitions and who's balls you lick.
The list of strong truly independent alliances that can or chose to act alone is very very short.
If you had to say best alliance in terms of PVP activity and achievement, organisation and fierce independence I would have to say -A- but many Alliances in massive coalition blobs would take offence at that.
I don't think skurrying off like a cockroach any time a challenger appears, or having your scimitars fit guns so they can keep a green killboard somehow counts as being "Strong". |
Sajuk'ar
Raging Ducks Goonswarm Federation
2
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Posted - 2012.10.23 23:41:00 -
[100] - Quote
Ivy Romanova wrote:NCDOT, goonswarm , Solar Fleet , EVoke , BricK squad, TEST, etc etc. All claims to be the most powerful alliance in existence. But who truly is ? Who is the most resourceful , who has the most guns? Who is the most battle hardened?
NCDOT has the MOST Supercaps and the most kills , Goons have the most space and enforcers , Solar has time coverage 24/7. EVoke is the middle of both world , along with TEST.
but who truly is the KING of New Eden? Or the Sheikh of Null?
Answer: it is CCP alliance :) |
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mama guru
Thundercats The Initiative.
60
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Posted - 2012.10.24 09:43:00 -
[101] - Quote
OP:
Tri and it's successors always suffered from **** poor, immature leaders screwing up an otherwise great alliance in terms of average SP and Activity.
Thats the case of most self proclaimed "pvp" alliances.
Nationbuilders survive, fotm alliances made up of impatient pvpers don't. ______
EVE online is the fishermans friend of MMO's. If it's too hard you are too weak. |
Xorth Adimus
Blackwater USA Inc. Against ALL Authorities
28
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Posted - 2012.11.02 14:39:00 -
[102] - Quote
Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Xorth Adimus wrote:
If you had to say best alliance in terms of PVP activity and achievement, organisation and fierce independence I would have to say -A- but many Alliances in massive coalition blobs would take offence at that.
Looks like the brainwashing is stronger then I thought in -A-, kudos to their leadership. Please don't confuse "fierce independence" with "treats all your allies like crap so they abandon you".
Lick faster .. the goon masters are watching!
Don't remember treating anyone like crap, I remember defending allies space night after night. Allies that then decided they didn't want to fight a massive blob and stopped turning up to defend their own space so they could Evac whilst we fought the blob? I remember people coming down saying 'death to goon pets' and then joining them first chance they got. I remember fighting every night to help our allies and some good fights.
Ah but you were not there .. not a good view from down there I guess? |
EI Digin
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
308
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:44:00 -
[103] - Quote
the best alliance is GOON |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
352
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Posted - 2012.11.02 15:48:00 -
[104] - Quote
Xorth Adimus wrote:
Lick faster .. the goon masters are watching!
Don't remember treating anyone like crap, I remember defending allies space night after night. Allies that then decided they didn't want to fight a massive blob and stopped turning up to defend their own space so they could Evac whilst we fought the blob? I remember people coming down saying 'death to goon pets' and then joining them first chance they got. I remember fighting every night to help our allies and some good fights.
Ah but you were not there .. not a good view from down there I guess?
Ahhh good, you're not letting trivial things like facts get in the way of your opinions. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Prelate Hucel-Ge
Dreddit Test Alliance Please Ignore
10
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Posted - 2012.11.04 07:00:00 -
[105] - Quote
Xorth Adimus wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Xorth Adimus wrote:
If you had to say best alliance in terms of PVP activity and achievement, organisation and fierce independence I would have to say -A- but many Alliances in massive coalition blobs would take offence at that.
Looks like the brainwashing is stronger then I thought in -A-, kudos to their leadership. Please don't confuse "fierce independence" with "treats all your allies like crap so they abandon you". Lick faster .. the goon masters are watching! Don't remember treating anyone like crap, I remember defending allies space night after night. Allies that then decided they didn't want to fight a massive blob and stopped turning up to defend their own space so they could Evac whilst we fought the blob? I remember people coming down saying 'death to goon pets' and then joining them first chance they got. I remember fighting every night to help our allies and some good fights. Ah but you were not there .. not a good view from down there I guess? It's hilarious to watch you nerds complaining about 'blobbing'. It's simple. You haven't adapted to the new meta. You're trying to play in the days of yesteryear, and you're losing. Badly. Adapt to the new meta. Embrace new players. Also, your doctrines are miserable. Seriously, your whole alliance needs an overhaul. It's a mess, all down to your silly 'leadership council'. Is -A- going to die soon? Doubtfully. They'll lurk elsewhere. But your days in Catch? You're not coming back. We're not taking all of it, we're just taking what matters, and defending it.
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Snot Shot
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
431
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Posted - 2012.11.04 16:38:00 -
[106] - Quote
Prelate Hucel-Ge wrote:It's hilarious to watch you nerds complaining about 'blobbing'. It's simple. You haven't adapted to the new meta. You're trying to play in the days of yesteryear, and you're losing. Badly. Adapt to the new meta. Embrace new players. Also, your doctrines are miserable. Seriously, your whole alliance needs an overhaul. It's a mess, all down to your silly 'leadership council'. Is -A- going to die soon? Doubtfully. They'll lurk elsewhere. But your days in Catch? You're not coming back. We're not taking all of it, we're just taking what matters, and defending it.
I think what -A- might be trying to say is they don't intend to blue everyone in 0.0 to hold space. From the begining TEST has been carried around 0.0 by PL and Goonies like one would an infant. Handed toys to play with and Regions to grown up in like new play pens etc.
You were handed the South by Goonies, as TEST/PL were not able to do it on your own and you were losing. Now like spolied children hiding behind your parents knee, you taunt -A- knowing full well there is nothing they can do with daddy PL holding one hand, and if need be, Goonies holding the other... If PL let your hand go you would fall face down in the mud...
The "meta game" as you put it, has simply turned into "why fight when we can all be friends"... That might be an award winning strategy for you but it's not nessecarily the one that -A- cares for. You don't have to be upset with -A- for still playing the game as an Alliance while you had no other choice to hold space but to buddy up with anything that will NIP or NAP you.
What would you like -A- to do? Say you're special and congratulate you for your "new meta" style of play by being a PL and Goonie pet? Congratualte you for being a nicer renter or nice ally....
Anywhoooo......I did get a kick out of the incident that happended with THORN up north ganking goonies and them crying to PL about it. Guess it proves that theres really just one 0.0 Coalition in this game if a few guys can even get some pew 60 jumps from home..... . Twitter = @Snot_Shot-á --áCatch My Interview!-á-á VFV Episode 56-á-áGÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"
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Smabs
Higher Than Everest BricK sQuAD.
71
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Posted - 2012.11.06 00:16:00 -
[107] - Quote
Quote:You haven't adapted to the new meta. You're trying to play in the days of yesteryear, and you're losing. Badly. Adapt to the new meta. Embrace new players.
Does this mean I should join the HBC? |
Xorth Adimus
Blackwater USA Inc. Against ALL Authorities
28
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Posted - 2012.11.06 14:17:00 -
[108] - Quote
Smabs wrote:Quote:You haven't adapted to the new meta. You're trying to play in the days of yesteryear, and you're losing. Badly. Adapt to the new meta. Embrace new players. Does this mean I should join the HBC?
Yes. We should all go join the southern goon so we can win and be good little pets and do what we are told or be thrown under the bus.
Same **** different year, different mega coalition of fail. Same hot air arguments.
Some people play EVE for freedom and the fun that comes with it, others join goon pets so they can be told what to do and hate on anything, they are told to hate. -A- don't hate goons, best description is that we pity you and feel bad for all the new players you subvert.
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CCP Eterne
C C P C C P Alliance
246
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Posted - 2012.11.06 23:16:00 -
[109] - Quote
Surprisingly, if a word is censored, it is NOT alright to find ways to avoid the censor and still post those words.
Deleted some posts which did such in this thread. CCP Eterne | Community Representative
@CCP_Eterne |
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Kamden Line
Eclipse Navy Get Off My Lawn
21
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Posted - 2012.11.07 05:49:00 -
[110] - Quote
Xorth Adimus wrote:Smabs wrote:Quote:You haven't adapted to the new meta. You're trying to play in the days of yesteryear, and you're losing. Badly. Adapt to the new meta. Embrace new players. Does this mean I should join the HBC? Yes. We should all go join the southern goon so we can win and be good little pets and do what we are told or be thrown under the bus. Same **** different year, different mega coalition of fail. Same hot air arguments. Some people play EVE for freedom and the fun that comes with it, others join goon pets so they can be told what to do and hate on anything, they are told to hate. -A- don't hate goons, best description is that we pity you and feel bad for all the new players you subvert.
Confirming that the Mittani whips me while I pull his techtenium chariot.
He's kinky like that. |
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Ventro69
Manson Family Corcoran State
100
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Posted - 2012.11.07 08:10:00 -
[111] - Quote
Smabs wrote:Quote:adapted to the new meta. Does this mean I should join the HBC?
As it stands, you're either HBC or CFC.
Don't worry, between the 70k of them, they'll keep finding groups that they can outnumber 5:1 and then chest beat aboot it on all forums.
Sucking at Eve = new meta.
Ventro69: There he goes. One of God's own prototypes. Some kind of high powered mutant never even considered for mass production. Too weird to live, and too rare to die.
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Soldarius
TreadStone Standard Tribal Band
297
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Posted - 2012.11.07 11:06:00 -
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Derp. CCP Alliance with their Specter, Wraith, and Enigma frigates and such. ISD with Cockroaches are a close second. "How do you kill that which has no life?" |
Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
363
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Posted - 2012.11.07 11:12:00 -
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Ventro69 wrote:Smabs wrote:Quote:adapted to the new meta. Does this mean I should join the HBC? As it stands, you're either HBC or CFC. Don't worry, between the 70k of them, they'll keep finding groups that they can outnumber 5:1 and then chest beat aboot it on all forums. Sucking at Eve = new meta.
If I was a betting man I'd give better odds on them fighting each other before they team up to fight someone again. "If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
226
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Posted - 2012.11.07 16:51:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:Ventro69 wrote:Smabs wrote:Quote:adapted to the new meta. Does this mean I should join the HBC? As it stands, you're either HBC or CFC. Don't worry, between the 70k of them, they'll keep finding groups that they can outnumber 5:1 and then chest beat aboot it on all forums. Sucking at Eve = new meta. If I was a betting man I'd give better odds on them fighting each other before they team up to fight someone again.
It's good you're not a betting man then.
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Snot Shot
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
433
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Posted - 2012.11.07 18:04:00 -
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Charles Case wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
If I was a betting man I'd give better odds on them fighting each other before they team up to fight someone again.
It's good you're not a betting man then. Agreed. Why would CFC attack the only entity in the game which could destroy them, and why would HBC attack the ones baby-sitting all their Tech moon income?... . Twitter = @Snot_Shot-á --áCatch My Interview!-á-á VFV Episode 56-á-áGÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"
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Anya Solette
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2012.11.08 17:49:00 -
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Snot Shot wrote:Charles Case wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
If I was a betting man I'd give better odds on them fighting each other before they team up to fight someone again.
It's good you're not a betting man then. Agreed. Why would CFC attack the only entity in the game which could destroy them, and why would HBC attack the ones baby-sitting all their Tech moon income?... .
its obvious, for ~gudfites~ noone else in the south is worth a damn so there you have it |
Snot Shot
Love Squad Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
437
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Posted - 2012.11.08 18:34:00 -
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Anya Solette wrote:Snot Shot wrote:Charles Case wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:
If I was a betting man I'd give better odds on them fighting each other before they team up to fight someone again.
It's good you're not a betting man then. Agreed. Why would CFC attack the only entity in the game which could destroy them, and why would HBC attack the ones baby-sitting all their Tech moon income?... . its obvious, for ~gudfites~ noone else in the south is worth a damn so there you have it I canGÇÖt wait to watch!! The GÇ£war posterGÇ¥ should be one guy hitting himself with pillows in each hand until he stops from basically being tiredGǪ.
You guize are whacky!!.. . Twitter = @Snot_Shot-á --áCatch My Interview!-á-á VFV Episode 56-á-áGÇ£If you don't stand for something, you'll fall for anything"
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Tikktokk Tokkzikk
Cult of Escobar
106
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Posted - 2012.11.19 18:43:00 -
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Obviously C C P Alliance is the most powerful alliance in the game. |
Charles Case
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
244
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Posted - 2012.11.21 00:18:00 -
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Xorth Adimus wrote:[ Yes. We should all go join the southern goon so we can win and be good little pets and do what we are told or be thrown under the bus.
Same **** different year, different mega coalition of fail. Same hot air arguments.
Some people play EVE for freedom and the fun that comes with it, others join goon pets so they can be told what to do and hate on anything, they are told to hate. -A- don't hate goons, best description is that we pity you and feel bad for all the new players you subvert.
I want to play EVE for the freedom
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SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
910
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Posted - 2012.11.21 05:02:00 -
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Xorth Adimus wrote:Smabs wrote:Quote:You haven't adapted to the new meta. You're trying to play in the days of yesteryear, and you're losing. Badly. Adapt to the new meta. Embrace new players. Does this mean I should join the HBC? Yes. We should all go join the southern goon so we can win and be good little pets and do what we are told or be thrown under the bus. Same **** different year, different mega coalition of fail. Same hot air arguments. Some people play EVE for freedom and the fun that comes with it, others join goon pets so they can be told what to do and hate on anything, they are told to hate. -A- don't hate goons, best description is that we pity you and feel bad for all the new players you subvert.
So this is why the forums have been dull lately, this post sucked up the irony supply for the entire game. I don't know how to break it to you but as an individual pilot within my alliance I'm allowed to pretty much do whatever the hell I want. The last time I alarm clocked was never, and I've gleefully gone roaming when strategic ops were active. But please tell me when you are logged in to your next level 20 CTA or whatever about how ~~~~free~~~~ you are. Meanwhile I'm going to find a boat fleet and run in the opposite direction in my daredevil. |
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ANGRY23
the united Negative Ten.
28
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Posted - 2012.11.23 11:14:00 -
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Ur235 wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:Ivy Romanova wrote:NCDOT has the MOST Supercaps Explain why they have trouble fielding more than 20? Not true DotBros fielded 63 supers today against Solar, not Nulli though because of course we all know Nulli has no supers Anyway back on topic best alliance? Negative Ten alliance for sure... no one can gatecamp Rancer quit like those hardcore pro pvpers, its fair to say they are the pinnacle of pvp prowess
QFT
Also, posting on caod
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