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Destination SkillQueue
Are We There Yet
2736
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Posted - 2012.10.08 11:50:00 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:You guys should probably wait for the official Dev blog before panicking and jumping to conclusions. Reading the EVE news article, some things are very strangely written, other things are very off the mark and seem to have been taken completely out of context for what Soundwave will have explained. The dev blog Is written, and is ready to be released very soon.
It's the nature of people to speculate on the info they have available. Since all they currently can rely on is hearsay, that is what they use to speculate and draw conclusions from. If you want to manage this behavior, you're going to have to come out with some concrete facts about the mechanic. Otherwise the article is still the only solid info available, so people will speculate based on it. |

Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1555
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Posted - 2012.10.08 11:55:00 -
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Andski wrote:EN24 writing things off the mark and out of context? Color me shocked Oh dear, better look for another source of information, eh.... Those who cannot adapt become victims of Evolugalbugaslugakjlwsdhvbzxd Click for old school EVE Portraits: http://jadeconstantine.web44.net/Maison.htm |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1291
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Posted - 2012.10.08 11:55:00 -
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FYP
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
3318

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Posted - 2012.10.08 11:57:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:CCP Paradox wrote:You guys should probably wait for the official Dev blog before panicking and jumping to conclusions. Reading the EVE news article, some things are very strangely written, other things are very off the mark and seem to have been taken completely out of context for what Soundwave will have explained. The dev blog Is written, and is ready to be released very soon.
It's the nature of people to speculate on the info they have available. Since all they currently can rely on is hearsay, that is what they use to speculate and draw conclusions from. If you want to manage this behavior, you're going to have to come out with some concrete facts about the mechanic. Otherwise the article is still the only solid info available, so people will speculate based on it.
what do you think the dev blog will be about?  Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis My Dev Blogs |
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Kara Vix
Sanford and Son Salvage Peregrine Nation
35
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Posted - 2012.10.08 11:59:00 -
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Why should a dev care one iota if someone is alt posting on a forum? The only reason it should matter, as far as I can guess, is that the particular dev isn't neutral to the player base and has a stake in the ingame politics. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
754
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Posted - 2012.10.08 12:00:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:CCP Paradox wrote:You guys should probably wait for the official Dev blog before panicking and jumping to conclusions. Reading the EVE news article, some things are very strangely written, other things are very off the mark and seem to have been taken completely out of context for what Soundwave will have explained. The dev blog Is written, and is ready to be released very soon.
It's the nature of people to speculate on the info they have available. Since all they currently can rely on is hearsay, that is what they use to speculate and draw conclusions from. If you want to manage this behavior, you're going to have to come out with some concrete facts about the mechanic. Otherwise the article is still the only solid info available, so people will speculate based on it. what do you think the dev blog will be about? 
Sex. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
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CCP Punkturis
C C P C C P Alliance
3318

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Posted - 2012.10.08 12:01:00 -
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Mallak Azaria wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:CCP Paradox wrote:You guys should probably wait for the official Dev blog before panicking and jumping to conclusions. Reading the EVE news article, some things are very strangely written, other things are very off the mark and seem to have been taken completely out of context for what Soundwave will have explained. The dev blog Is written, and is ready to be released very soon.
It's the nature of people to speculate on the info they have available. Since all they currently can rely on is hearsay, that is what they use to speculate and draw conclusions from. If you want to manage this behavior, you're going to have to come out with some concrete facts about the mechanic. Otherwise the article is still the only solid info available, so people will speculate based on it. what do you think the dev blog will be about?  Sex.
BINGO! Gÿà EVE User Interface Programmer Gÿà GÖÑ Team Super Friends GÖÑ @CCP_Punkturis My Dev Blogs |
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Alice Saki
9191
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Posted - 2012.10.08 12:03:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:CCP Paradox wrote:You guys should probably wait for the official Dev blog before panicking and jumping to conclusions. Reading the EVE news article, some things are very strangely written, other things are very off the mark and seem to have been taken completely out of context for what Soundwave will have explained. The dev blog Is written, and is ready to be released very soon.
It's the nature of people to speculate on the info they have available. Since all they currently can rely on is hearsay, that is what they use to speculate and draw conclusions from. If you want to manage this behavior, you're going to have to come out with some concrete facts about the mechanic. Otherwise the article is still the only solid info available, so people will speculate based on it. what do you think the dev blog will be about?  Sex. BINGO!
Officially peaked my interest. Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
116
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Posted - 2012.10.08 12:07:00 -
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CCP Punkturis wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:what do you think the dev blog will be about?  Sex. BINGO!
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Not sure if I actually want to hear about Devs sex lives (if they even exist).
In fact, I call for less reproduction more Bounty Hunting Dev Blog writing  |

Alice Saki
9192
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Posted - 2012.10.08 12:09:00 -
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Gimmi the Gossip :D
Dev on Dev Action? :P Scottish Interweb Spaceshippy Person, Very Easily Confused. I like to show my Love by Smashing people in the face with a big Hammer.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
4849
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Posted - 2012.10.08 12:15:00 -
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Rek Seven wrote:wow, this all sounds really stupid. It's more of a legal assassination system, rather than a bounty system.
Corp thieves and spies do not incurr any sec hits. MatrixSkye Mk2: "Remember: You consent to unconsensual PVP the moment you press the "Undock" button." |

War Kitten
Panda McLegion
1292
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Posted - 2012.10.08 12:17:00 -
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Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:what do you think the dev blog will be about?  Sex. BINGO! ...... Not sure if I actually want to hear about Devs sex lives (if they even exist). In fact, I call for less reproduction more Bounty Hunting Dev Blog writing 
A Dev Blog about Bounty Hunting is bound to involve someone getting screwed.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
756
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Posted - 2012.10.08 12:23:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Rek Seven wrote:wow, this all sounds really stupid. It's more of a legal assassination system, rather than a bounty system. Corp thieves and spies do not incurr any sec hits.
A good corp thief or spy doesn't get caught. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

7'th Tactical
The Dark Space Initiative
3
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Posted - 2012.10.08 12:24:00 -
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War Kitten wrote:Inquisitor Kitchner wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:Mallak Azaria wrote:CCP Punkturis wrote:what do you think the dev blog will be about?  Sex. BINGO! ...... Not sure if I actually want to hear about Devs sex lives (if they even exist). In fact, I call for less reproduction more Bounty Hunting Dev Blog writing  A Dev Blog about Bounty Hunting is bound to involve someone getting screwed.
Can't believe that this is what my 1st eve forum post is gona be about but, yeah..: True dat ^^
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Mara Rinn
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
1897
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Posted - 2012.10.08 12:40:00 -
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Destination SkillQueue wrote:Have you considered being respectful and polite towards others, instead of acting like a gigantic douchebag? That way people would be less willing to pay huge sums of money to get your sorry ass driven out of the game. If you get a bounty because of your in-game actions, then I'd consider it just a consequense of your actions and a part of normal gameplay.
Let's imagine, for a moment, that there was a large group of people who generally behave as douchebags because that's what they consider fun. These people have access to "infinite ISK" in game because they have tech moons, freighter ganking alts and FW plex spinning alts. They have so much ISK they don't know what to do with it. So they just start a campaign of putting bounties on people who post in forums or have a blog.
Does that mean that people who post on forums or have a blog have been impolite to others? Or would this just be a case of douchebags paying a large sum of money to get polite people driven out of the game?
I can see a spike in alt-posting and a drop in community participation if this bounty-on-anyone mechanism doesn't have some kind of counterbalance in place.
Day 0 advice for new players: Day 0 Advice for New Players |

Skippermonkey
Tactical Knightmare
1503
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Posted - 2012.10.08 12:45:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:Have you considered being respectful and polite towards others, instead of acting like a gigantic douchebag? That way people would be less willing to pay huge sums of money to get your sorry ass driven out of the game. If you get a bounty because of your in-game actions, then I'd consider it just a consequense of your actions and a part of normal gameplay. Let's imagine, for a moment, that there was a large group of people who generally behave as douchebags because that's what they consider fun. These people have access to "infinite ISK" in game because they have tech moons, freighter ganking alts and FW plex spinning alts. They have so much ISK they don't know what to do with it. So they just start a campaign of putting bounties on people who post in forums or have a blog. Does that mean that people who post on forums or have a blog have been impolite to others? Or would this just be a case of douchebags paying a large sum of money to get polite people driven out of the game? I can see a spike in alt-posting and a drop in community participation if this bounty-on-anyone mechanism doesn't have some kind of counterbalance in place. Lets consider for a moment that pilots in NPC corps should be ignored...
oh, thats much better TK is recruiting |

7'th Tactical
The Dark Space Initiative
3
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Posted - 2012.10.08 12:55:00 -
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Mara Rinn wrote:Destination SkillQueue wrote:Have you considered being respectful and polite towards others, instead of acting like a gigantic douchebag? That way people would be less willing to pay huge sums of money to get your sorry ass driven out of the game. If you get a bounty because of your in-game actions, then I'd consider it just a consequense of your actions and a part of normal gameplay. Let's imagine, for a moment, that there was a large group of people who generally behave as douchebags because that's what they consider fun. These people have access to "infinite ISK" in game because they have tech moons, freighter ganking alts and FW plex spinning alts. They have so much ISK they don't know what to do with it. So they just start a campaign of putting bounties on people who post in forums or have a blog. Does that mean that people who post on forums or have a blog have been impolite to others? Or would this just be a case of douchebags paying a large sum of money to get polite people driven out of the game? I can see a spike in alt-posting and a drop in community participation if this bounty-on-anyone mechanism doesn't have some kind of counterbalance in place. Erm, why Is every 1 focused on "forum posting" as the problem here. I did not check that link but I can prety much assume that it was only an example. The "new" griefing problem is that every 1 in the game might just be a victim of some 1 saying: "Hey I'm bored today, I think I'm gona set a 100 bil bounty on this guy just for the giggles". And this is kinda of a problem cous obviously you won't see that hapening a lot. But think about coroporation griefing. Huge groups of ppl focusing on a single individual or a smaller oponent. It's a new thing, as with everytihng it's gonna have it's better and worst moments. I personaly think the new system looks great, and I don't really think any 1 will be made to quit the game over this. I for one am gona be infinitely happy by posting a 100bil bounty on RnK every month ^^ |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1022
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:07:00 -
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EvEa Deva wrote:Log in, check bounty, hmmm 100m, log in second account, shoot 1st account, collect money. Will not work. The payout is a fraction of the hull value you blow up. That 100 million is paid out in pieces as ship after ship is killed until all 100 mil is used up. So if you kill yourself with an alt:
20 million hull lost 7 million gained from insurance 5 million from the bounty Net loss to you: 8 million http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Vincent Athena
V.I.C.E.
1022
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:11:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:I'm confused as to what part of that you interpret as "out of the game". Same as "Im going to chase the cat out of the house". A better wording would be grief someone until they leave the game. http://vincentoneve.wordpress.com/ |

Weiland Taur
Ceptic Innovations Rebel Alliance of New Eden
103
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:11:00 -
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From first read of the EveNews24 article, the Bounty system looks problematic at best. Even the entire idea of removing NPC enforcement in a game so skewed toward dickery sounds a bit goofy, (if so maybe let Roleplayers play Concord) but given EveNews24's stellar record on getting the facts straight it does make sense to wait for the Dev blog before rage quitting. |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1758
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:17:00 -
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I consider these forums just as much a part of EVE as EVE itself. I don't see any reason why a person who dislikes me for something I say on these forums shouldn't be able to post a bounty on my head for it. Frankly, you would see a lot of this already if the current system wasn't just a waste of time and ISK. Imagine the bounties CSM members and Mittani are going to get. Is it going to change anything in reality? No. Mittani still has infinite alts, most of which are unknown to most players and the CSM members, along with everybody else, will just go about their days doing what they always do. Hell...I am willing to bet that Mittani will place a large bounty on his head just for the hell of it. The only major thing I see changing from what it is now is the fact that you can no longer kill yourself for profit just to get the bounty money that is on your head and the actual profession of bounty hunting will now actually be worth investing some time into. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1029
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:18:00 -
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Relax, the bounty system won't make people who have bounties free for all to everyone else. That will be reserved for, uh, people who steal bookmarks out of bait cans and targeting mining vessels without their pilots' permission (coming in 2014).
Also, all the people getting ready to jump on the alt bandwagon for forum posting just to avoid bounties make me sad for the state of gaming as a whole. I don't understand how someone can insist on playing a shooting game while having less balls than an underbudgeted inner-city school gymnasium. With all the people I **** off, I'll probably hit ten figures in a month. And guess what? I'll wear that **** as a badge of honor. I've never even considered using alts to post on forums, unlike these tiny cowards who are scurrying in panic like ants under a microscope. Way to play a videogame. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |

Oxylan
Fuss Roo Dah
25
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:26:00 -
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CCP got few good solution how to distribution isk aftter poding somone with bounty in head, but the worse thing, is almost impossible to find or kill these people, because of game mechanic, scouts, alts, afk in stations.
In fact bounty system is big fail and got low impact in game, bounty it self as game part is almost worthless game mechanic part.
People talk a lot about bounty but noone care.
Guys EvE is almost 10years long.... stop talking about non existed game part as somthing importand... Bounty system never exist in EvE, is a myth, personaly i dont care how CCP (fix) this bounty system, im pessimist. If it bleed we can kill it. |

HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:29:00 -
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James Amril-Kesh wrote:EvEa Deva wrote:Log in, check bounty, hmmm 100m, log in second account, shoot 1st account, collect money. That won't be possible with the new system. If you try it you'll simply end up incurring a loss.
Why wouldnt this work if you have a second account? Bounty on first account log in second account get in noob ship on bounty account and let second account kill and collect bounth. How will they tell difference between your secound account or any other? |

Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
1029
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:30:00 -
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HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:EvEa Deva wrote:Log in, check bounty, hmmm 100m, log in second account, shoot 1st account, collect money. That won't be possible with the new system. If you try it you'll simply end up incurring a loss. Why wouldnt this work if you have a second account? Bounty on first account log in second account get in noob ship on bounty account and let second account kill and collect bounth. How will they tell difference between your secound account or any other? Because the payment is likely going to be tied to loss value, similar to LP for kills in FW. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5032
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:41:00 -
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As long as I can impoverish myself by putting bounties on others through EVE Gate I'm happy This post was crafted by a member of the Goonswarm Federation posting cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online posting.
fofofofofo |

Vertisce Soritenshi
Tactical Vendor of Services and Goods Partners of Industrial Service and Salvage
1758
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:41:00 -
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HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:James Amril-Kesh wrote:EvEa Deva wrote:Log in, check bounty, hmmm 100m, log in second account, shoot 1st account, collect money. That won't be possible with the new system. If you try it you'll simply end up incurring a loss. Why wouldnt this work if you have a second account? Bounty on first account log in second account get in noob ship on bounty account and let second account kill and collect bounth. How will they tell difference between your secound account or any other? Prime example of why people need to read the dev blogs. EvE is not about PvP.-á EvE is about the SANDBOX! |

HollyShocker 2inthestink
State War Academy Caldari State
24
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:43:00 -
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Destiny Corrupted wrote:Relax, the bounty system won't make people who have bounties free for all to everyone else. That will be reserved for, uh, people who steal bookmarks out of bait cans and targeting mining vessels without their pilots' permission (coming in 2014).
Also, all the people getting ready to jump on the alt bandwagon for forum posting just to avoid bounties make me sad for the state of gaming as a whole. I don't understand how someone can insist on playing a shooting game while having less balls than an underbudgeted inner-city school gymnasium. With all the people I **** off, I'll probably hit ten figures in a month. And guess what? I'll wear that **** as a badge of honor. I've never even considered using alts to post on forums, unlike these tiny cowards who are scurrying in panic like ants under a microscope. Way to play a videogame.
Real men/women play with thier real name and post thier address and phone number and credit card info. They dont hide behind a female avatar in a make believe game and pretend to be tuff.
People post with alts for many reasons. Some corps have a code of conduct that restricts them from posting on the forums as they represent that corp.
Others just want to be able to speak thier mind and not have to deal with the numerous asshats that troll these forums. Others use it as a form of meta gaming.
Just because you may not have the ability to see or think outside your own small box doesnt mean that all these people are cowards.
Once again thank you for removing any doubt. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
759
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:45:00 -
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Weiland Taur wrote:From first read of the EveNews24 article, the Bounty system looks problematic at best. Even the entire idea of removing NPC enforcement in a game so skewed toward dickery sounds a bit goofy, (if so maybe let Roleplayers play Concord) but given EveNews24's stellar record on getting the facts straight it does make sense to wait for the Dev blog before rage quitting.
The only problem here is that people are getting information from EN24 & attempting to pass it along as fact. Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |

Mallak Azaria
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
759
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Posted - 2012.10.08 13:46:00 -
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HollyShocker 2inthestink wrote:People post with alts for many reasons. Some corps have a code of conduct that restricts them from posting on the forums as they represent that corp.
What sort of ****** corp wouldn't let you post on the forums? Mining Barge buff: CCP-áhas acknowledged that miners in general-áare too stupid to make the correct fitting choices to make ganking them unprofitable. |
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