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Ben Derindar
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Posted - 2005.03.16 22:44:00 -
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Greetings,
one month on from the disbanding of the alliance known as JQA, KelThuzad and myself are finally ready to release our first serious attempt at an Eve movie (so be gentle!):
A Look Back (46.3MB zipped WMV, right-click Save As)
This was originally going to be an Unforgivn recruitment vid with Kel and I (we are flatmates IRL) collecting random footage of everyday activities whenever we remembered to. But then of course, things went a little - shall we say - pear-shaped for the alliance, so what had been captured up to that point was reworked into what's now on offer.
TBH, Kel was the one who took the time to learn how to use Adobe Premiere with this one - I was just the guy standing over his shoulder, telling him to tweak this and adjust that.  You won't see an excess of ganks to the tune of some death-metal cacophany here, rather, this vid is simply as its title suggests: a look back.
It's only once you try and make something like this that you can really get a fuller understanding for how much time and effort goes into the making of any Eve movie. Both of us learned a hell of a lot from this process and have come out of it with a much deeper respect for all those whose works feature in this forum. WE SALUTE YOU!
And of course to everyone else, thank you for taking the time to watch. Cheers.
/Ben
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Jin Entres
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Posted - 2005.03.16 23:25:00 -
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I think it was pretty good. I hope to see more movies from you :)
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Voltron
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Posted - 2005.03.17 06:08:00 -
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dont care how *** it sounds, but that was a touching tribute movie
Volt
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Insanicus
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Posted - 2005.03.17 06:20:00 -
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Edited by: Insanicus on 17/03/2005 06:20:18
awesome movie man, made me sad it all ended the way it did.
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Seleene
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Posted - 2005.03.17 06:56:00 -
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Okay, I have never seen someone more in need of a full version of FRAPs. Ben, that was very good! The visuals were excellent and the narrative kept me interested. Granted, it was a short vid, but you managed to convey a lot of feeling and emotion in it.
To everyone looking to make a vid, pay attention to how this was done. Story and music really matter and this effort uses both to great effect.
Good work, Ben and Kel. Don't stop here. 
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Elise Masutra
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Posted - 2005.03.17 08:39:00 -
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it's a really good video !!! altough it's a sad one :( i like it way more than those "we are so uber killing miners"-****. keep on the good work.
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taaf
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Posted - 2005.03.17 09:01:00 -
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Very touching movie Ben and Kel. Good job 
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Artharas
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Posted - 2005.03.17 09:28:00 -
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This is a suberb movie(wish it was a bit longer  ) but it still saddens me, as it reminds me how hard it was to leave this once small but great alliance.
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LoxyRider
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Posted - 2005.03.17 09:33:00 -
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Really enjoyed it :D great work, make sure you have the full version of fraps for your next movie ^^.
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Fabster
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Posted - 2005.03.17 10:53:00 -
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Very good vid. Love the music fits the movie good.
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Leafo
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Posted - 2005.03.17 13:07:00 -
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If I have ever seen anyone who should get the full version of FRAPS it is you guys! Omg! This was bloody brilliant!
If I'm reading your post correctly this was your first video? If so... 
Good choice of music and the editing to it was simply amazing! I very much look forward seeing more work from you!
Good job!!
//Leafo
Btw, a friendly hint. If you continue to use the demo version of FRAPS, you could just resize the clips a little bit in Premiere so that the URL gets off screen.
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Asestorian
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Posted - 2005.03.17 13:28:00 -
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That really was good 
Nothing else needs saying on it really, it was quite short but it didn't really need to be any longer, and like everyone else has said, if anyone needs to invest in the full verison of fraps is you guys.
I look forward to seeing more of your work in the future!
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Lowa
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Posted - 2005.03.17 13:47:00 -
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Guys, that was very very very very VERY good work!
Synching, sound, images, feeling it was all top notch!
And to agree with my mates, YES! For the love of God! Spend $20 on FRAPS
and continue down the road of movie making! I DEMAND more! 
Cheers,
LOWA
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SurVie
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Posted - 2005.03.17 18:38:00 -
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good old memories... hmmmm....
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Beringe
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Posted - 2005.03.17 20:31:00 -
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That was brilliant. I very nearly shed a tear.
A fitting tribute/epitaph to the JQA.
--Beringe, ex-JQA senator--
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Shamad Conde
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Posted - 2005.03.17 20:46:00 -
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Awesome.
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AvanCade
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Posted - 2005.03.17 23:27:00 -
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Video is very cool, but next time dont zip it (zip can contain virus' and doesnt make the file any smaller in bytes ;)).
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Obidios
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Posted - 2005.03.18 01:42:00 -
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Nice vid, one point, those areas had already been taken by force... :)
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Artharas
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Posted - 2005.03.18 08:45:00 -
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 Originally by: Obidios
Nice vid, one point, those areas had already been taken by force... :)
And that has NO relevent with this video. He's quoting what our trim member said officially in the end when decision was taken to disband. Supremacy is in no way a part of this video, so you might want to stop trying to change what this video stands for, the small but once great alliance JQA.
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KelThuzad
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Posted - 2005.03.18 10:42:00 -
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Thank you, everyone for your views and thoughts about this movie. The last few days prior to its release were very long for myself and Ben, sometimes going into the early hours of the morning. I never thought I'd get this many responses to my first movie, let alone a post from both Seleene and Leafo. You guys are great! The movies that I've seen from both of you have all been amazing, and I would highly recommend their veiwing.
The posts that have been posted here have motivated me enough to look into making another movie, though I have no idea what it will be about at this time. I have already got the full version of Fraps so no more URL at the top of the screen anymore.
/Kel
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Obidios
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Posted - 2005.03.18 12:13:00 -
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Originally by: Artharas
Originally by: Obidios
Nice vid, one point, those areas had already been taken by force... :)
And that has NO relevent with this video. He's quoting what our trim member said officially in the end when decision was taken to disband. Supremacy is in no way a part of this video, so you might want to stop trying to change what this video stands for, the small but once great alliance JQA.
I'm not trying to diss the vid, it's good. But maybe it should be called fiction then? The relevance in my post is that the video shows JQA leaving under no pressure and leaving an empty area "ready for someone else to move in" or whatever the exact words were on it... My point was it was already taken by force and not empty for someone to move into.. That's all :)
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Agenor Deteis
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Posted - 2005.03.18 14:50:00 -
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best use of sound in a EVE vid ever!
And this was your first..?
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Ben Derindar
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Posted - 2005.03.18 22:29:00 -
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I would just like to echo Kel's sentiments and thank you all again for your constructive criticism and encouragement.
Indeed, this is our very first Eve movie of any substance. The only thing Kel had done prior to this was a short "test" vid containing a single 30 second clip, just while he was getting the hang of things like adding basic text, and also to test some different encoding possibilities.
In addressing Obidios's concern, I would remind you that this end result is a far cry from what we had originally intended to make, which was a corp recruitment vid. It was only during the invasion period that we gathered any combat scenes at all, such was the lack of regular commitment we were giving to this project.
If you want to be specific, SUPRM pilots are in fact seen in two places. The 2v2 scene (SUPRM assault frig & R-K inty vs JQA kestrel & inty) shows Airpizza and Zorlondre exploding simultaneously - Namelesz survived.
Later, a large frig squad is shown swarming over a lone SUPRM Tempest in S-U, which did eventually go down, but at the cost of about half a dozen JQA frigs following the arrival of enemy reinforcements mid-fight. Yes, it's a shame this wasn't all captured, but Kel's demo version of Fraps is more to blame for that than anything else. 
I guess what I'm trying to say is that there was no intention to deliberately hide SUPRM's involvement in JQA's downfall with this vid - we simply wanted to make use of what we had captured up to that point, as best we could. Remember, if SUPRM and friends hadn't invaded, we'd all be talking about a very different vid right now.
So there's your involvement, even if it isn't spelt out so explicitly in the vid itself. If that's still not enough, well, you're always free to make a SUPRM victory movie of your own if you like. 
/Ben
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RichThugster
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Posted - 2005.03.18 23:56:00 -
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like their vid would beat yours
Ben Derinder and Kelthuzad for president and 4 teh w1n
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Heptameron
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Posted - 2005.03.19 08:17:00 -
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Very very nice work guys! I have to say the soundwork was probably just about the best and most appropriately used i've heard in any eve video i've seen.
Kudos dudes....
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Evana Hertyu
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Posted - 2005.03.20 04:38:00 -
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Edited by: Evana Hertyu on 20/03/2005 04:46:46
im at a loss of words
i never knew JQA ingame, but i genuinely felt gutted at the end of that movie 
Fantastic work, certainly the most touching eve video i've ever seen
/me is a big softy 
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Tholarim
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Posted - 2005.03.20 18:24:00 -
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Very very nice vid Ben. Good audio/video sync as well. Very nice work for a first video. Keep it up.
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Dash Ripcock
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Posted - 2005.03.20 18:35:00 -
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Fantastic use of music, the score from Matrix Revolutions - and the careful timing of it - add a massive amount of power to the battle scene. They were perhaps the most exciting I've seen in an EVE film - well done!
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Kristoffer
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Posted - 2005.03.20 18:49:00 -
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Very good movie Ben / Kel...
Brings up the memories...
Hope to see more m8s
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n0sPIG
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Posted - 2005.03.21 01:00:00 -
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/me throws panties at Kel <3
Downloaded it to laptop over the weekend, nice work chapz.
I want more. 
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