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CB LoKi
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Posted - 2005.03.18 18:54:00 -
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SIGNED
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MuthaTrucka
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Posted - 2005.03.18 18:57:00 -
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Edited by: MuthaTrucka on 18/03/2005 18:59:33 No we want CCP to change the ame to Benifit "ALL" Alliances not just ours. As it is Alliances receive 3 benifits 1. A Chat Channel 2. A Way to Spam Mail everyone in the Alliance Currently Online 3. A Wallet
Alliances were promised to be so much more and nothing has been delievered. PVP is great, its a game. I live with it so can everyone else. I do not believe that removing PVP is the answer even if I am not good at it. What I do Believe is that PVP needs to be in context. Xetic, Stain, FoE, Etc Need to be able to win a war in different ways Sure destroying the badguys is great but should it be the only way it can be done? If the Enemy is like S.A.S. for example who SS or Logs out fighting a terrorist type war, Should the alliance they are Fighting not be able to Try to economically destroy them. Their ability to wage war should be dependant on different things. For Example Xetic could be allowed to buy their Insurance contracts thus negating there ability to receive any Insurance Monies on a ship destruction. Also Should Not a Concord Reconised sovergn territory be allowed to Buy out War costs and Have Concord Declare it illegal thus negating their ability to wage war and set concord on them for Engaging in a illegal war? That would of course only stop them from gate camping they could still engage in hit and run tactics if they so wished. Also Should the Alliance wish could it not Be able to Engage War Time Buy Orders on all of S.A.S. Freezing there ability to Buy or Trade in Empire thus negateing their ability to Resupply? What About Paying NPC Corps to remove their Offices, Factory Slots, REsearch slots etc in EMPIRE. That is economic War something we currently do not have... All we Have is Ship combat.........Seems part of PVP is missing
--------------- Don't Call me a Carebear, I don't really care about much at all. --------------- [ Internally Yours foyle, MT ]
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Crohnx
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Posted - 2005.03.18 18:58:00 -
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signed
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hitech redneck
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:00:00 -
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glad to see the post alive again. what cyvok says is things that needs to be done to help all alliences
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Arud
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:01:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur I cleaned up the thread, modded CYVOK's original post and unlocked it. I also talked to CYVOK today regarding the issues and the thread in addition to some other people involved in the incident last night. My apologies for the mess.
The war revision is still being looked into. I already increased the cost once and probably will modify it once again before the patch comes out.
Regarding buildup in 0.0 space, that's being worked un, but as an intermediate solution for people living around Conquerable stations, we will be increasing services in the current stations.
However, please continue this discussion in Nafri's thread I'm following that and have it bookmarked for future reference.
Oveur.
thats why I keep playing, no matter what anyone says, the devs care about the game 
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Aeleva
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:03:00 -
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Signed and agreed. I would like to slap any silly buggers who whine at xetic, Since when has anyone been able to move into out space and "control" it. Seems that last time anyone tried (few days ago) they ended up safe spotting and logging because we outnumbered them 3-1. Anyway not meant to start flames. I like mining and exploring 0.0. More station services would be absolutly brilliant :D Come on jovians, gives the alliances the help you said you would.
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Hobblah
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:03:00 -
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Agreed
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Boris Krarakovic
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:04:00 -
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Signed
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Darken Two
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:06:00 -
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XETIC speak for noone but themselves, please dont embarass other alliances but tellin everyone you were doing this to benefit them or the rest of the eve community.
If it was such a major problem, I'm sure the other alliances would have said something since all of them have wars going. Even the FSA guys who are 1/10 the size of XETIC with almost 0 PvP experience, put up a fight defended their alliance mates in empire and then went about their business after the wars wer over.
XETIC have had it too good for too long and now they want to change the game to suit their needs, while pretending that they are doing the community some service.
Why dont you just DIE DIE DIE !!!!
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Dusty Raven
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:06:00 -
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signed |
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Shai Faetal
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:06:00 -
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agreed, signed
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PeaceKeeper TooK
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:07:00 -
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Agreed |

CosmiXaos
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:08:00 -
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Agreed.
Yarhhh  - CosmiXaos |

Bolgroth
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:09:00 -
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agreed
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cordy
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:11:00 -
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signed
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Khornoune
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:11:00 -
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agreed
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Larno
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:11:00 -
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Thanks Oveur.
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Malarkey
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:11:00 -
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Totally, completely and utterlu agree.
Xetic are the bad guys, cos we're the good guys.
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danneh
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:12:00 -
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Signed! :> |

Langley Asuka
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:12:00 -
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signed
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Malecoda
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:12:00 -
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Signed and much respect to CCP!
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Receptor
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:13:00 -
[112]
agreed
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Wot Ssox
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:13:00 -
[113]
agreed, signed
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Artharas
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:14:00 -
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Edited by: Artharas on 18/03/2005 19:23:43 Edited by: Artharas on 18/03/2005 19:16:31 Agree* Bleh after reading a bit better(more then CYVOK's glorious words), thanks Oveur. ------------------------- These are my views and don't necessarily represent my corp nor my alliance. |

Roshan longshot
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:14:00 -
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Agreed
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Crohnx
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:15:00 -
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Edited by: Crohnx on 18/03/2005 19:15:05
Originally by: Darken Two XETIC speak for noone but themselves, please dont embarass other alliances but tellin everyone you were doing this to benefit them or the rest of the eve community.
If it was such a major problem, I'm sure the other alliances would have said something since all of them have wars going. Even the FSA guys who are 1/10 the size of XETIC with almost 0 PvP experience, put up a fight defended their alliance mates in empire and then went about their business after the wars wer over.
XETIC have had it too good for too long and now they want to change the game to suit their needs, while pretending that they are doing the community some service.
This is not thread for your lame opinion , its only for agree or disagree word! Leave your bull**** outside cause u dont understand point of this game aniway
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Liet Traep
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:15:00 -
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Originally by: Oveur I cleaned up the thread, modded CYVOK's original post and unlocked it. I also talked to CYVOK today regarding the issues and the thread in addition to some other people involved in the incident last night. My apologies for the mess.
The war revision is still being looked into. I already increased the cost once and probably will modify it once again before the patch comes out.
Regarding buildup in 0.0 space, that's being worked un, but as an intermediate solution for people living around Conquerable stations, we will be increasing services in the current stations.
However, please continue this discussion in Nafri's thread I'm following that and have it bookmarked for future reference.
Oveur.
Thank you Oveur. Part of the problem is the current empire war system hurts alliances and encourages them to move out of empire. But 0.0 doesn't have the infrastructure to support industrialists. If you are not a pvper there's nothing in 0.0 for you. You can mine the rare ores but then you have to ship them to empire to make isk. It's not just xetic space. i've been in Foe territoy and in Wicked Creek where RUS resides. They're all wastelands. stations are few and far between. It's hard to be a manufacturer in 0.0 when your factory is 16 jumps away from your refinery. As it stands if you're an industrialist in a alliance you have a few choices. Move to 0.0 and be bored. Stay in empire and get ganked repeatedly and lose interest in eve or leave your alliance for an npc corp so you can do the things you play this gane for. A lot of Xetic producers would love to reside in 0.0 but there's no way for them to survive there. Exodus was supposed to be about going into the wilds of space thriving there. Mainly I've seen people being lured away from 0.0 empires by level 4 mission payouts and cheap empire wars. I agree with Cyvok. Give us a reason to build an empire.
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Foobs
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:16:00 -
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Signed
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K'isa
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:16:00 -
[119]
Agreed
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Kroolish
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Posted - 2005.03.18 19:17:00 -
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AGREED, About time someone voiced there opinion properly to CCP, if things dont change soon CCP will find there server count and population drop, which means less real life money to go around...... i thought EA handled its gameing community badly and it seems that if CCP doesnt sort this issue out then they will find themselves in the same situation they did :( (You Cannot ignore the biggest Alliance in EVE) especially considering we are gamers not gankers :)
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