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Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
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Posted - 2012.10.12 05:01:00 -
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Its one thing that you scrapped WIS. I understand why it happened, and have lived with it for quite a while now. But When I started Eve, I wanted to be a smuggler. This is not a viable choice right now, nor has it been for quite some time.
For those of you that never heard, here is what was supposed to happen; Drugs (boosters) were in need of looking at. Soundwave wanted them buffed so that they would be more desirable. In this case, the buff was changing the negative effects to be less severe. They were going to set it up so that boosters were not available on the market, you would have to use the WIS to go meet your dealer. NPC's would no longer scan you for contraband, but players would be able to scan you and mark you for PvP if you did not pay the fine (very similar to the upcoming bounty changes). This information was given in an interview with Soundwave at fanfest 2011 I believe, maybe 2010.
So what happened was they made the Orca cargo-hold scannable, but then didn't make any of the other changes. Smuggling went from life support to DNR and that's where it is now.
So that's that. Reversed a PLEX on my main today and I'll come back when they get enough sand to fill the whole box. I sincerely hope CCP gets their **** together sooner than later. From: Tommas De'Wins To: Cipher Jones Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
661
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Posted - 2012.10.12 05:04:00 -
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Nobody wants boosters bad enough to put up with all that bullshit. |
Darth Gustav
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.10.12 05:07:00 -
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Cipher Jones wrote:Its one thing that you scrapped WIS. I understand why it happened, and have lived with it for quite a while now. But When I started Eve, I wanted to be a smuggler. This is not a viable choice right now, nor has it been for quite some time.
For those of you that never heard, here is what was supposed to happen; Drugs (boosters) were in need of looking at. Soundwave wanted them buffed so that they would be more desirable. In this case, the buff was changing the negative effects to be less severe. They were going to set it up so that boosters were not available on the market, you would have to use the WIS to go meet your dealer. NPC's would no longer scan you for contraband, but players would be able to scan you and mark you for PvP if you did not pay the fine (very similar to the upcoming bounty changes). This information was given in an interview with Soundwave at fanfest 2011 I believe, maybe 2010.
So what happened was they made the Orca cargo-hold scannable, but then didn't make any of the other changes. Smuggling went from life support to DNR and that's where it is now.
So that's that. Reversed a PLEX on my main today and I'll come back when they get enough sand to fill the whole box. I sincerely hope CCP gets their **** together sooner than later. Oh man Cipher.
It was you and me buddy.
We were the ones who kept on paying. I know you remember.
What's the galaxy coming to? He who trolls trolls best when he who is trolled trolls the troller. -Darth Gustav's Axiom |
Destiny Corrupted
Deadly Viper Kitten Mitten Sewing Company
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Posted - 2012.10.12 05:08:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:Nobody wants boosters bad enough to put up with all that bullshit. Some people do.
Boosters go a long way for me personally because I find myself in uneven situations using active-tanked ships pretty often. But it's really, really difficult to stage them without taking standings hits and paying fines. So I completely agree with Cipher.
PS: don't forget they further nerfed smuggling by removing the smuggling bonus from Snake implants. (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) |
KrakizBad
Eve Defence Force Fatal Ascension
916
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Posted - 2012.10.12 05:12:00 -
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I love boosters, but not enough to ever wish the hell that is WIS on anyone. Why did you take my wings away? |
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
596
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Posted - 2012.10.12 05:13:00 -
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I use boosters for PvP and clearing sites in Wspace. My main PvP toon has all 5's in that stuff.
I want to smuggle contraband for a living, not just boosters, but primarily so.
I want it to be like Cardamine in Freelancer. From: Tommas De'Wins To: Cipher Jones Dude :) I got massives Basi hahahahahahaha |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
663
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Posted - 2012.10.12 05:17:00 -
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They should make you go all the way and smuggle them up your butt. Then when one of the bags break your body explodes. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1453
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Posted - 2012.10.12 05:30:00 -
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I wanna be a smuggler like Han Solo. But then again, I just buy my boosters off the market in 0.0
Why are drugs illegal anywhere in the cold, harsh universe? primary target is broadcasted, put all drones on the warp disruption battery. If you are in a frigate you should be at the gate, who blew up? |
Raiz Nhell
Kangaroo Ate my baby Li3 Federation
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Posted - 2012.10.12 05:51:00 -
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No More Heroes wrote:I wanna be a smuggler like Han Solo. But then again, I just buy my boosters off the market in 0.0 Why are drugs illegal anywhere in the cold, harsh universe?
Han Solo dropped his load at the first sign of an Imperial patrol, costing Jabba a fortune...
Then he flew straight into a busted up planet and was captured pretty darn quick, falling for a pretty girl into the bargain...
Then attempting to blockade run with the aforementioned pretty girl his ship failed, and he was captured and turned into a wall hanging...
If I'm going be a smuggler, I wanna be a hell of a lot better than Han Solo...
But I still must agree, it would be pretty cool...
There is no such thing as a fair fight...
If your fighting fair you have automatically put yourself at a disadvantage. |
Momoyo
Interwebs Cooter Explosion Fatal Ascension
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Posted - 2012.10.12 08:45:00 -
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I think the main reason there isn't a large demand for boosters is because 1, many players aren't versed in just how awesome they are and how the "negative" side effects usually don't matter and can even make your experience a bit more interesting and 2, importing them is a pain and coupled with the fact that there isnt huge demand its not worth it to smuggle them in. I like the idea of players enforcing customs as opposed to npcs. I think it would help a lot to get more supply into high sec. |
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Rovinia
Exotic Dancers Union SONS of BANE
9
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Posted - 2012.10.12 09:57:00 -
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Like the Idea. Would match perfectly with the new Crimewatch mechanics and lead to more pvp in Highsec. |
Nanatoa
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
30
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:02:00 -
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CCP should add a skill for it, call it Black Market Trading or something. It is never too late to turn from the errors of your ways: He who repents of his sins is almost innocent.
MinerBumping.com |
Staleward Ad'mraa
Fission. JINN.
4
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Posted - 2012.10.12 10:50:00 -
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I can see bribes being brought into this as well. NPC should be in high sec, while players in low sec could bring their own security at the gates, being paid by the hour by NPC's from factions. To smuggle through low sec, you would have to bribe your way and then when you are in high sec, hope your lucky and successful in bribe because prices would be higher up there. It would reward your risk to bring those hard sought after boosters. |
Wolf Kruol
Sinisenkuun Laguuni GREATER ITAMO MAFIA
20
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Posted - 2012.10.12 14:16:00 -
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Ya I need my drugs.. Hard to get in some areas of space.. Aside from my exotic chicks and tobaco.. I need my fix.. GÇ£If you're very very stupid? How can you possibly realize you're very very stupid?
You have to be relatively intelligent to realize how stupid you really are!GÇ¥ |
Jhan Niber
Big Johnson's
11
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Posted - 2012.10.12 16:21:00 -
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We've got the best virtual market out there. It's a shame we don't have a great black market to complement it. |
Taiwanistan
Wildly Inappropriate Goonswarm Federation
275
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Posted - 2012.10.12 16:31:00 -
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No I don't want to load avatars and wasd around o7m8ing people just to get some boosters. TA on wis: "when we have a feature that is its own functional ecosystem of gameplay then hooks into the greater ecosystem of EVE as a whole, and it provides good replayability."
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Grumpy Owly
Paladin Philanthropists
674
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Posted - 2012.10.12 16:41:00 -
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FYI: It's just criminal proposal - Smuggling Bounty Hunting - Soon (Gäó): Retribution (Winter 2012)
It's just criminal - Smuggling |
Gilbaron
Free-Space-Ranger Ev0ke
370
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Posted - 2012.10.12 16:42:00 -
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one of the things i do not understand in eve is why certain modules or ships are allowed in certain areas of space. why should the caldari allow the use of rattlesnakes and gilas in their space ? let alone selling them there. it makes no sense |
Darth Khasei
Sunstar Business Ventures Inc.
5
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Posted - 2012.10.12 16:49:00 -
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I would love to see this profession get some attention. |
No More Heroes
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1454
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Posted - 2012.10.12 16:49:00 -
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Momoyo wrote:I think the main reason there isn't a large demand for boosters is because 1, many players aren't versed in just how awesome they are and how the "negative" side effects usually don't matter and can even make your experience a bit more interesting and 2, importing them is a pain and coupled with the fact that there isnt huge demand its not worth it to smuggle them in. I like the idea of players enforcing customs as opposed to npcs. I think it would help a lot to get more supply into high sec.
They should add a slot to your ship where you can "load" boosters, like maybe 2-3 enough for a fight. Boosters being loaded in that manner would not cause criminal flags. Then they should make transporting boosters through high sec to cause a criminal flag to where you can be fired upon by anyone and completely remove faction police from the equation Let players police it.
This would create a whole new "smuggling" side profession where drugs could be ferried to different markets by those with the balls and a blockade runner or fast, agile ship to do so. primary target is broadcasted, put all drones on the warp disruption battery. If you are in a frigate you should be at the gate, who blew up? |
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Helena Russell Makanen
Deep Core Mining Inc. Caldari State
157
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Posted - 2012.10.12 16:58:00 -
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SmilingVagrant wrote:They should make you go all the way and smuggle them up your butt. Then when one of the bags break your body explodes.
Well the Beavis and Butthead crowd have spoken.... "If a miner needs to go to the bathroom, for instance, I ask that they dock up first, or at the very least ask the Supreme Protector for permission to go."-á --á James 315 - aka - the miner bumper |
Reticle
Sight Picture
48
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Posted - 2012.10.12 17:05:00 -
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Rovinia wrote:Like the Idea. Would match perfectly with the new Crimewatch mechanics and lead to more pvp in Highsec. You're dreaming if you think there will be more high sec pvp. |
TriadSte
IronPig Sev3rance
117
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Posted - 2012.10.12 17:09:00 -
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Some of you guys are talking like CCP actually listen to what we think. They do not listen they only take our monies :P
I think making a living from smuggling drugs would be great. For me it would be a "real" trader not just some toon literally stuck in a station playing the 0.01 isk game.
But CCP will not listen.
The game needs thing to be alot more immersive and the smuggling thing sounds like the very thing and should be placed in the game. |
SmilingVagrant
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
674
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Posted - 2012.10.14 23:33:00 -
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Helena Russell Makanen wrote:SmilingVagrant wrote:They should make you go all the way and smuggle them up your butt. Then when one of the bags break your body explodes. Well the Beavis and Butthead crowd have spoken....
I was engaging this stupid idea with exactly the level of maturity it called for. |
Nexus Day
Native Freshfood Minmatar Republic
55
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Posted - 2012.10.14 23:46:00 -
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Raiz Nhell wrote:
Han Solo dropped his load at the first sign of Princess Leia...
Fixed it.
Had dreams of becoming a smuggler when I joined this game, much like my character in Traveller. That is why I chose the name Nexus Day. As in Nexus Day Delivery.
But those dreams are now lost forever...like tears in the rain. |
Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
2568
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Posted - 2012.10.15 00:41:00 -
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Rovinia wrote:Like the Idea. Would match perfectly with the new Crimewatch mechanics and lead to more pvp in Highsec. It rather makes sense that step one is to sort out the issues with Crime Watch before introducing a smuggling mechanic that is in the hands of the players.
We'll be a lot closer to a system where players can have a smuggling occupation, and other players can have a border patrol occupation, after the Crime Watch changes have the bugs worked out. To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors. If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
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