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Jaroslav Unwanted Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2011.10.01 07:22:00 - [1] - Quote Ave, Thats actually my first topic on this/EVE forum. I read plenty of "feed-back" posts from players toward Devs, so i am just curious what devs actually think about the players. We are all human-being and if i were on the Dev spot i would probably go to sensory overload state and just post horrible things about forum posters till i would be permanently banned from forums. So thats about covers it. PS. I dont think someone will actually reply to it Fake Edit : inb4 CCP alt, attention ***, CCP *** etc.
Brock Nelson 21	Posted - 2011.10.01 07:25:00 - [2] - Quote Shut up and poast with your main
Brooks Puuntai Nomadic Asylum 116	Posted - 2011.10.01 07:27:00 - [3] - Quote They hate us all. Though I bet the Incarna Team is the most annoyed.
Burseg Sardaukar Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance 20	Posted - 2011.10.01 08:36:00 - [4] - Quote Brooks Puuntai wrote: They hate us all. Though I bet the Incarna Team is the most annoyed. Haha, I hope the community Dev's have kept the Incarna boys away from the forums for the last couple months saying something along the lines of: CCP Fallout: "No no no, they LOVE Incarna! just... uh... keep working on those other CQ's... NO! Don't log into the forums, here, I'll just unplug you from the network so you can... focus... yea...." We have a blog, it is terrible. How to fix Bounty Hunting
Nyio Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation 133	Posted - 2011.10.01 08:37:00 - [5] - Quote Jaroslav Unwanted wrote: Ave, Thats actually my first topic on this/EVE forum. I read plenty of "feed-back" posts from players toward Devs, so i am just curious what devs actually think about the players. We are all human-being and if i were on the Dev spot i would probably go to sensory overload state and just post horrible things about forum posters till i would be permanently banned from forums. So thats about covers it. PS. I dont think someone will actually reply to it Fake Edit : inb4 CCP alt, attention ***, CCP * etc. Do you REALLY** want to know? Features & Ideas Discussion: Agent Finder, Black Holes Needs a banner here..
mechtech SRS Industries SRS. 27	Posted - 2011.10.01 08:42:00 - [6] - Quote Forums are a loud, aggressive, vocal minority. I've never seen a game forum that isn't, and all devs realize this.
Grey Stormshadow Starwreck Industries 180	Posted - 2011.10.01 08:43:00 - [7] - Quote Nyio wrote: Do you REALLY want to know? No - not really. I can rent horror movies elsewhere if I want to experience that kind of feeling. Forum fix for firefox and chrome Get working images and colored text Classic forum style 2.25final

CCP Zulu C C P C C P Alliance 65	Posted - 2011.10.01 08:45:00 - [8] - Quote I read the forums very regularly and sometimes even post. Overall it's really good feedback, you learn a lot about overall sentiment and over time you can even glean sentiment trending from it. But you also have to be able to mentally filter out some posts and threads. It's tough, but highly valuable. Plus, I love the EVE community. It's the most inventive, direct and intelligent online community I've seen. GÖÑ


CCP Zulu C C P C C P Alliance 65	Posted - 2011.10.01 08:46:00 - [9] - Quote Oh, and also, it's incredibly funny.

Jaroslav Unwanted Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic 9	Posted - 2011.10.01 08:50:00 - [10] - Quote mechtech wrote: Forums are a loud, aggressive, vocal minority. I've never seen a game forum that isn't, and all devs realize this. True, however sometimes the crowd could be quite inventive and write well thought posts/threads. The most funny part i find is that someone actually genuinely believe that their idea is unique and nobody from devs haven't thought about it that way. Like the "requests" to change this and that here and there and everything gonna be fine.. All of those are just small changes with marginal impact on game itself right ?
Florestan Bronstein United Engineering Services 77	Posted - 2011.10.01 08:56:00 - [11] - Quote CCP Zulu wrote: Oh, and also, it's incredibly funny. inb4 "Zulu trolling us with devblogs" threadnaught
Jokerface666 Ever Flow Northern Coalition. 24	Posted - 2011.10.01 09:01:00 - [12] - Quote CCP Zulu wrote: I read the forums very regularly and sometimes even post. Overall it's really good feedback, you learn a lot about overall sentiment and over time you can even glean sentiment trending from it. But you also have to be able to mentally filter out some posts and threads. It's tough, but highly valuable. Plus, I love the EVE community. It's the most inventive, direct and intelligent online community I've seen. GÖÑ liers! :-D love ya too <3 ------------------------------w00t w00t rapetrain------------------------------
Jayem See Drama Llamas 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 09:28:00 - [13] - Quote mechtech wrote: Forums are a loud, aggressive, vocal communication tool for people that care about their game. I've never seen a game forum that isn't, and all devs would do well to realize this. FYP there bro
Heian Galanodel Viziam Amarr Empire 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 15:24:00 - [14] - Quote Burseg Sardaukar wrote: CCP Fallout: "No no no, they LOVE Incarna! just... uh... keep working on those other CQ's... NO! Don't log into the forums, here, I'll just unplug you from the network so you can... focus... yea...." Haha! This just made my day. I thought this was actually very funny
Mendolus Aurelius Federation 54	Posted - 2011.10.01 15:56:00 - [15] - Quote It is likely a mix of feeling that a vast swath of us are completely off our rockers and make the most ridiculously absurd demands they've ever seen, to a mix of healthy respect for the fact that we ARE the subscribers, so keeping as many of as possible happy and content (read: subscribed) is always the core goal. From posters who demand that all PvE players are removed from the game, to posters who make logical well-thought out and sensible posts on game mechanics, we are a lively bunch of customers. There are probably a lot they have no idea what it is really like or how complex and time consuming a lot of this stuff is sentiments I bet. Or, if you believe in the notion that CCP is on a downward and irreversible spiral like some insist on believing no matter what, there are probably also a lot of they have no idea what we're going through and how bad things have gotten and how we want to help but can't sentiments going around. ...clearly the Ishukone Watch Scorpion is the fifth horseman of the Apocalypse, i.e. the Brown Rider, otherwise known as Poopie.
Gregor Palter 77	Posted - 2011.10.01 16:05:00 - [16] - Quote Jayem See wrote: mechtech wrote: Forums are a loud, aggressive, vocal communication tool for people that care about their game. I've never seen a game forum that isn't, and all devs would do well to realize this. FYP there bro Indeed. Excuses are the refuge of the weak.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 297	Posted - 2011.10.01 16:23:00 - [17] - Quote Jaroslav Unwanted wrote: Ave, Thats actually my first topic on this/EVE forum. I read plenty of "feed-back" posts from players toward Devs, so i am just curious what devs actually think about the players. We are all human-being and if i were on the Dev spot i would probably go to sensory overload state and just post horrible things about forum posters till i would be permanently banned from forums. So thats about covers it. PS. I dont think someone will actually reply to it Fake Edit : inb4 CCP alt, attention ***, CCP *** etc. Look at this guy. He thinks devs don't have forum alts. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/
Industrializer Tekitsu Everlasting Forge Imperial Ascension 2	Posted - 2011.10.01 17:45:00 - [18] - Quote The main problem with forums is the anonymity. If we had to use our real identity for posting I'm sure that we might say the same stuff, but with much more respect and leaving aside the obsessive need to harass the game/company/employees as often as possible that some individuals have. PD: I'm not saying that I'd like to use my real identity on forums, just pointing out at the nature of the anonymity.
Jayem See Drama Llamas 2	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:04:00 - [19] - Quote As little as I have said - I would be happy to push it to any employee of CCP. Anon is ok to hide behind as a general commenter - no problems with that. Those that verge on the personal need their heads testing. What saddens me is that so many people care about the game, yet they get marginalised as a "vocal minority" They are the people that care by definition. I love the EVE community - it's why I am here. If it truly changes then I will be off. That would be a sad day for me.
Abrazzar 140	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:07:00 - [20] - Quote Industrializer Tekitsu wrote: The main problem with forums is the anonymity. If we had to use our real identity for posting I'm sure that we might say the same stuff, but with much more respect and leaving aside the obsessive need to harass the game/company/employees as often as possible that some individuals have. PD: I'm not saying that I'd like to use my real identity on forums, just pointing out at the nature of the anonymity. Yeah, without anonymity we all would be much more deceitful and dishonest. Dishonest politeness is a greater insult than impolite honesty. Besides, I dislike being forced to expose myself to the whole world. Please visit your user settings to re-enable images.
Tallianna Avenkarde Beasts of Burden 56	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:21:00 - [21] - Quote Industrializer Tekitsu wrote: The main problem with forums is the anonymity. If we had to use our real identity for posting I'm sure that we might say the same stuff, but with much more respect and leaving aside the obsessive need to harass the game/company/employees as often as possible that some individuals have. PD: I'm not saying that I'd like to use my real identity on forums, just pointing out at the nature of the anonymity. this is compounded by faceless forum alts. PS: I'm not one of those. IMO if you are too afraid of ingame backlash from something you say, then dont say it. And a sudden plunge in the sullen swell. Ten fathoms deep on the road to hell.
Jayem See Drama Llamas 2	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:26:00 - [22] - Quote Abrazzar wrote: Industrializer Tekitsu wrote: The main problem with forums is the anonymity. If we had to use our real identity for posting I'm sure that we might say the same stuff, but with much more respect and leaving aside the obsessive need to harass the game/company/employees as often as possible that some individuals have. PD: I'm not saying that I'd like to use my real identity on forums, just pointing out at the nature of the anonymity. Yeah, without anonymity we all would be much more deceitful and dishonest. Dishonest politeness is a greater insult than impolite honesty. Besides, I dislike being forced to expose myself to the whole world. Wut? Nobody forced your involvement in this forum. An now you whine about it? Cheese? Stop derailiing the subject - many people on this forum (female dog) like there is no tomorrow, lots of them have a cause. Some post just to take the ****. Do you have a point? My point would be that the community has lost it's focus BECAUSE CCP has changed tack - people are not sure what they are fighting for - spinning/sov/pos/FW/hybrids....... If the community puts it's heart into something CCP listens - otherwise...........
Mag's the united Negative Ten. 19	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:26:00 - [23] - Quote CCP Zulu wrote: But you also have to be able to mentally filter out some posts and threads. Yea some of yours can be bad, but we manage. CCP Zulu.....Forcing players to dock at the captain's quarters is a form of what we actually wanted to get through, which is making Incarna a seamless part of the EVE Online experience.
Malcanis Vanishing Point. The Initiative. 322	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:47:00 - [24] - Quote I've never seen a more wretched hive of scum and villainy And by "villainy" I mean badposting. And by "scum" I mean still 100 leagues above other MMO forums. Malcanis' Law: Any proposal justified on the basis that "it will benefit new players" is invariably to the greater advantage of older, richer players. Things to do in EVE:-áhttp://swiftandbitter.com/eve/wtd/

CCP BlueScreen C C P C C P Alliance 0	Posted - 2011.10.01 18:49:00 - [25] - Quote I love EVE and I love the EVE community, they are one and the same. I read and enjoy the forums every day, sometimes in agreement sometimes not, guess that's the nature of a caring verbal community. Also, I am on the Incarna team, so there you have it, I love you... Hope I never did anything to convince you otherwise

Janos Saal Corp 54 Curatores Veritatis Alliance 13	Posted - 2011.10.01 19:04:00 - [26] - Quote CCP BlueScreen wrote: I love you... Hope I never did anything to convince you otherwise Too late, you already released Incarna. EVE is dead
Kasidis Noble Company 1	Posted - 2011.10.01 19:17:00 - [27] - Quote CCP BlueScreen wrote: I love EVE and I love the EVE community, they are one and the same. I read and enjoy the forums every day, sometimes in agreement sometimes not, guess that's the nature of a caring verbal community. Also, I am on the Incarna team, so there you have it, I love you... Hope I never did anything to convince you otherwise Well if it makes you feel better, I like Incarna no matter how little there is to do with it Now if you just make those establishments I'm sure alot of people opinions will turn around. Not all of them, but alot of them
Stitcher Re-Awakened Technologies Inc 42	Posted - 2011.10.02 11:53:00 - [28] - Quote man, if I were a dev I'd have to take a self-imposed forum ban. the inclination to snap at the jerks whose strength of feeling far outstrips the depth of their understanding is overwhelming anyway. I'd be a walking PR disaster. Props to those devs who can actually come on here and stay civil and upbeat. An in-character blog and a video: http://verinsjournal.blogspot.com http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tu1mbsgo738
Xorth Adimus Blackwater USA Inc. Against ALL Authorities 1	Posted - 2011.10.02 12:11:00 - [29] - Quote CCP Zulu wrote: Oh, and also, it's incredibly funny. They like to laugh at our posts.
Brooks Puuntai Nomadic Asylum 132	Posted - 2011.10.02 12:34:00 - [30] - Quote Xorth Adimus wrote: CCP Zulu wrote: Oh, and also, it's incredibly funny. They like to laugh at our posts. Hilmar's email actually said "Listen to what they do, and laugh at what they say."

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